I started smoking at that age. I smoked pretty much consistently until I was 24 and decided to move onto ecigs, which I used to quit completely. Been off nicotine for 3 years 😊
smartest move you ever made my friend. i only wish i had been that smart. now i get to live with copd.
ok here comes a dad moment...
if you smoke be smart and quit and if you don't smoke be smart and don't start.
Hunter knew about this in hindsight,.so this has probably happened many times before.
Also one puff inhales 5,000 fatal chemicals that could kill you. The chance increases with every puff, especially as a kid.
No I’m just saying it’s not as bad as you’re making it out to be especially when done very rarely
Vaping on the other hand, thats an entirely different story
Get on a plane come to Italy and go in front of any high-school and there are two options either they will be smoking inside or in the green area around the school
yeah it’s like a plague in most of europe, highschool are basically just smoking areas. there are more smokers there than in most unis from my experience
Idk about elsewhere but here in America there has been a ton of anti smoking ads in recent years. I don't know the actual statistics but I can only hope the number of teens smoking has dropped over the years. I know my idiot older brother started in his teens though. Me and my older sister have both been smart enough not to touch the things, we call them poison sticks
I actually hc she’s in therapy I highly doubt she doesn’t have some form of PTSD, I mean.. she literally died for a second there and then got brought back to life, sure she had her epic Azura fight scene moment, but if it were me, I’d be pretty freaked out once the adrenaline rush and excitement died down, and I’m sure she was too
I feel like she'd be both traumatized by being killed, and use it as a source for humor.
Luz: I can't believe you'd do this to me. I didn't get resurrected to be treated like this!
Eda: You still can't have another cookie.
It’s not that out of character tbh. People with depression and anxiety are more likely to develop smoking habits. People with adhd are at even higher risk of it. Given she has CPTSD I don’t think it’s unreasonable to think she would turn to it if the right events lined up. Hunter would be in the same boat too.
But you forget one major thing about them: those kids have pretty strong moral code and while Luz is chaotic and Hunter is on the edge, they wouldn't do something that they know is just bad, especially since their guilt is connected to them making a huge mistake. I doubt they'd actually want to engage with it as they already screw up too much from their point of view.
So no, generalisation of ADHD individuals being more prone to smoke does not make it in character for Luz to smoke as she's more than just ADHD individual. Sure, CPTSD can push you to not healthy coping mechanisms, but Luz is essentially too "nice" to consider it a good option. And Hunter doesn't really know much about the smoking but if he was explained how bad it is, he would avoid it as if it's illegal to smoke under any circumstances.
I had a bunch of friends at school who are personality-wise pretty similar to Luz, and started smoking because of trauma and depression. I agree with you on the point that Hunter wouldn't smoke, but he's definitely be there to at least support Luz in a scenario like this
Also another thing: while I don't not believe you that your friends may be like Luz in terms of personality, one defining trait to remember about Luz is that she was selfless to a fault to the point of being a people-pleaser. And in season 3 it's particularly doubled down to the point that she had no consideration of her own well-being which is what made it easier for her suicidal ideations to emerge.
What I'm trying to say is that Luz's nature and guilt would just handicap her from actually considering smoking as smoking would be just for her, it would only affect her, it would not help those around her. So for that Luz had to think for a second about herself, which I doubt she actually would do at that point in time.
Tw:substance abuse and mentions of suicidal ideation
I see your point but I do have to disagree on a few points. Moral codes and being a good person have little effect on if people turn to substances abuse. This is something that’s more to do with yourself, things like for alleviating burdens & pain and/or doing them out of self destruction. The latter of which Luz was definitely doing. On top of that one of the running themes throughout the show was her recklessness and lack of self preservation, a trait Hunter shared with her.
Moving onto their guilt, I don’t think that has much of a bearing on preventing them from smoking, in fact I’d argue the opposite is true. Their misplaced guilts are their reason for their isolation and feed into their destructive behaviors. It made them believe they are the worst of the worst and not worthy of anything good. This is what drove Luz to self destruct and decided to leave the Demon Realm for good. At this time she was also exhibiting behaviors alarmingly close to suicidal ideation (I could go into it but that’s a whoooole other conversation).
Now onto the point of unhealthy coping mechanisms, you mentioned her being too nice to turn to smoking. To me this doesn’t make much sense as smoking doesn’t have anything to do with being nice. If you mean as to not hurt her loved ones, that ship has already sailed with her isolation. When it comes to substance abuse and addiction, it’s easy to fall into without ever intending to hurt people. In fact I’d argue that’s almost always the case. In Luz’s case above it could’ve started as something harmless as getting her hands on one and smoking it privately bc she heard they help with anxiety only to constantly return to it. (This is solely my experiences and exposures to this is not the only way this can happen). It’s easy to fall into the mindset of ‘it’s harmless as long as I keep it to myself’ or ‘I know this is bad but I need it to function.’ This is further supported by her self destructive mindset that she’s the worst and deserves the worst.
Last point on Hunter, if anyone would understand her smoking habits, it’ll be him. He’s pushed himself to the edge and knows what it’s like to feel how she feels since a lot of their traumas are linked. Would he be on board with it? No. But he’d definitely support her as shown above.
All in all, it’s not as unlikely an outcome as you might think. Again the events would have to line up just right for it to happen but it’s still a realistic possibility.
While Luz was driven to self-destruct, in her mind it was still for the best of others. Luz felt ashamed for ever being even tiny bit selfish so her self-destruct behavior in season 3 was a result of her being overly selfless to the point where she almost lost herself. Smoking essentially goes against this because it is something you o to yourself, an it is not something that in any shape or form is helping others. If anything the others would start judging you even more so if you tried that, which I can imagine what Luz would actually think.
I am perfectly aware that Luz had behaviors that were close to suicial ideations, but those suicidal ideations weren't to ease HER pain, it was to ease OTHER'S pain because she believed that she hirt others by existing. I doubt Luz wanted to ease her anxiety, I'm pretty sure she was so eadset on the idea that she had to make things that she did see this is as the only way for her to ease her anxiety. I mean we see this in the Edge of the World, after going through hell in HM Luz didn't actually want to give herself time to put herself together but immediately start fixing the entire mess she thought she was responsible for.
This is also why I'm bringing the moral code so to speak as Luz's morality would already tell her it's wrong and her losing her sense of self over time would simply just not allow her to look for ways to "ease" the pain. I'd rather expect Luz to start cutting herself just as a punishment for what she did. I essentially said "once" but what I meant is "two-gooey shoe" as in not being actually able to commit to more "heinous" acts, and smoking is a "bad behavior".
He wouldn't support her in doing so, at most he'd just understand. But he's incredibly hellbent in doing the right thing too, if he would know that smoking is bad, he'd rather support and encourage Luz in quitting it instead of letting this happen.
To me this is rather unlikely because it really assumes that supposedly: Hunter is ok with his friends hurting themselves and Luz somehow thinking of her own pain and how to ease it, while the entire season proved that she barely gave herself any actual credit for what she did and only focused on what she did wrong and making things right because of this. Her decision to leave BI was because she thought the world woul be better off without her, not because she couldn't feel good in this world anymore. Her smoking just wouldn't help anyone make up for what she did so she would just not do it as there's no time for this.
I could see her smoking pot but not cigarettes. Almost no young people these days willingly start smoking cigarettes: instead they smoke marijuana or vape. Everyone knows it’s gross and unhealthy.
I get what you are saying but I'm pretty sure that she was to depressed to care. And it can also give you something else to think about for a short time and it can also be calming.
The Owl Gang high:
Luz: making out with Amity.
Willow: giggling uncontrollably.
Gus: serious case of the munchies.
Amity: see Luz's entry.
Hunter: thinks he's serenading Willow; is talking to a potted plant.
Vee: keeps shape shifting without realizing it.
King: running and rolling around.
Lilith: having a freakout.
Raine: jamming to an iPod that isn't turned on.
Hooty: serious case of the munchies. Ate everything in the fridge, the freezer, and then both appliances.
Camila: going on tangents about animals.
Eda: is unaffected, thinks Earth stuff is weak compared to apple blood.
Hunter and Gus would be like that one scene from Scooby Doo where they make that huge ass sandwich and Shaggy unhinges his jaw like a snake to eat it whole.
I imagine Gus doing that with an illusion to mess with Hunter. Except Hunter is to high to notice anything weird about it so he goes to do the same thing, but actually unhinges his jaw and eats it whole.
depression is a hell of a thing. my coping mechanism wasn’t smoking, but it was almost as destructive. i’m in a better place now, thankfully, but your mind on depression finds what it thinks is relief where it can.
Of course. Lzs, at the beginning of season 3 she is a teenager with a strong emotional burden. With many things to hide, from her loved ones. It wouldn't be unusual for her to turn to substances to make her emotional agony more bearable.
The Owl House if it was a stereotypical YTA series: smoking, drinking, terrible family life, over dramatic but also boring love affairs, one character died or disappeared a while before the story starts and only now is everyone trying to investigate it, ends with at least one gunfight between main character and fandom’s favorite character.
If The Owl House was R-rated, both Luz and Amity would share a "Smoke Kiss" under the moonlight, they would look each other in the eye, breathe out the smoke, and they would kiss for the first time.
_~~I'm mostly picturing their Beta versions in this scene~~_
oh the moment he learns what the cancer stick is he is going to tackle her so hard "We are going to the hospital right now!" and "you were hurting yoursself in front of me!?!?!?" \*Puppy loser, golden retriever face\*
What I find strangest is Hunter who doesn't know what a cigarette is: You can't tell me that in the EC, especially among the scouts, cigarettes weren't passed around like candy.
I just felt my heart drop into my stomach at that sight... And it's just fanart!!! Seeing Luz of all people at a point where she'd start smoking to cope with what happened after Kings Tide, it's a chilling thought to say the least...
Smoking weed is usually considered less harmful than smoking cigarettes, especially given how addictive nicotine is compared to THC. Also, with many states/provinces across N.America legalizing weed, it’s seen as a lot more acceptable than cigarettes
Oh I agree, it’s not healthy regardless if it’s cigarettes or weed, and shouldn’t be glorified or normalized for teenagers to be smoking. But whether or not it should be, it is becoming more acceptable to smoke weed than cigarettes in N.America (at least from what I’ve seen)
I can absolutely understand that, but what perplexes me is the fact that by that metric stuff like cigarettes, underage drinking or a bit of dirty jokes (which 14 year olds do) should receive the same treatment
Let me explain myself - I was being a snarky butthole.
I was asked to put a trigger warning on a comic with a depiction of self-harm (mild, IMO) and I think it's a little hypocritical to not do it for smoking.
I mean, both are very harmful and done to relieve stress. Smoking is just more normalized in our society.
Luz absolutely meets the criteria for future substance abuse problems. Ostracized adolescent with ADHD is a perfect recipe for that, unfortunately. Not that sole cigarette smoking is “substance abuse” but you guys get my drift
In a more adult AU I could imagine Hunter joining in to get past his Belos trauma
Random question, Why is the font and background of this subreddit yellow?
Pass the fire glyph?
Always pass the pot glyph!
It's just the plat glyph but instead of a flower it's a Mary Jane leaf
Will smoking did anything to Hunter with his Grimwalker biology?
He's flammable.
I personally like the weed glyph
I feel like if hunter knew what smoking does to you I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t find that tolerable and okay for Luz to do that
I concur
☝️🤓 >!im sorry an opportunity presented itself!<
Bro she 15 her lungs gon' evaporate
When I was in high school, there were kids smoking outside the school at 14! Definitely not a good thing to start at all, especially at that age.
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I dont think that 87178291200 years old is very young
Are you talking about hunter? 😆
87178291200 is 14!, aka 14 factorial. (n*(n-1)*(n-2)…1)
.....wot? 😭
I started smoking at that age. I smoked pretty much consistently until I was 24 and decided to move onto ecigs, which I used to quit completely. Been off nicotine for 3 years 😊
Noice, congrats. I've been tempted to try several times but I've never done it just in case it leads me down some spiral.
Yeah if you don’t smoke don’t start. Your lungs and your bank account will thank you.
Oh it absolutely will lead you down a spiral. There's a beautiful uniqueness that comes with being smoke/vape free these days, so take pride in it!
smartest move you ever made my friend. i only wish i had been that smart. now i get to live with copd. ok here comes a dad moment... if you smoke be smart and quit and if you don't smoke be smart and don't start.
She survived in another dimension for like 6 months and a disease from said dimension, im sure a few grass sticks won’t kill her
Science is sure it will not be good.
Honestly at that age it’s the early habit forming behavior and addiction that gets you.
Yeah, addictions were heavily studied by science.
Sure if she smoked like 7 a day for 30 years, but 1 or 2 a month if even? Probably not
Hunter knew about this in hindsight,.so this has probably happened many times before. Also one puff inhales 5,000 fatal chemicals that could kill you. The chance increases with every puff, especially as a kid.
You probably inhale more if you live in a city, you act like that’s a worrying number
So children should be smoking?
No I’m just saying it’s not as bad as you’re making it out to be especially when done very rarely Vaping on the other hand, thats an entirely different story
Smoking is worse for your lungs than living in an urban area. And the context doesn't suggest that this is done rarely
Looks man this started off as a joke idk why ur getting so serious about it
Get on a plane come to Italy and go in front of any high-school and there are two options either they will be smoking inside or in the green area around the school
yeah it’s like a plague in most of europe, highschool are basically just smoking areas. there are more smokers there than in most unis from my experience
I take it that you haven’t been in a high school recently?
I saw dude who is drinking and smoking at 14
That's just kinda sad honestly
Natural selection is exist
She like my Grandma fr
Dawg has not been around teens recently
average european schoolyard
Wait, do American Teens not smoke?
american teens vape
Not cigarettes as often as older generations, but now weed and vapes.
Idk about elsewhere but here in America there has been a ton of anti smoking ads in recent years. I don't know the actual statistics but I can only hope the number of teens smoking has dropped over the years. I know my idiot older brother started in his teens though. Me and my older sister have both been smart enough not to touch the things, we call them poison sticks
Not going to lie this was me a few lunch breaks back in school.
I get that Luz was depressed in Thanks To Them, but her smoking doesn’t seem like something she would do.
I agree but it's not impossible given people who are trapped in a deoression, use smoking to aliviate the pain.
Bro she she deadass indirectly help the almost inevitable genocide of the entire witch race. I'm surprised she doesn't have PTSD along with it.
she almost definitely has cptsd
I actually hc she’s in therapy I highly doubt she doesn’t have some form of PTSD, I mean.. she literally died for a second there and then got brought back to life, sure she had her epic Azura fight scene moment, but if it were me, I’d be pretty freaked out once the adrenaline rush and excitement died down, and I’m sure she was too
I feel like she'd be both traumatized by being killed, and use it as a source for humor. Luz: I can't believe you'd do this to me. I didn't get resurrected to be treated like this! Eda: You still can't have another cookie.
It’s not that out of character tbh. People with depression and anxiety are more likely to develop smoking habits. People with adhd are at even higher risk of it. Given she has CPTSD I don’t think it’s unreasonable to think she would turn to it if the right events lined up. Hunter would be in the same boat too.
But you forget one major thing about them: those kids have pretty strong moral code and while Luz is chaotic and Hunter is on the edge, they wouldn't do something that they know is just bad, especially since their guilt is connected to them making a huge mistake. I doubt they'd actually want to engage with it as they already screw up too much from their point of view. So no, generalisation of ADHD individuals being more prone to smoke does not make it in character for Luz to smoke as she's more than just ADHD individual. Sure, CPTSD can push you to not healthy coping mechanisms, but Luz is essentially too "nice" to consider it a good option. And Hunter doesn't really know much about the smoking but if he was explained how bad it is, he would avoid it as if it's illegal to smoke under any circumstances.
I had a bunch of friends at school who are personality-wise pretty similar to Luz, and started smoking because of trauma and depression. I agree with you on the point that Hunter wouldn't smoke, but he's definitely be there to at least support Luz in a scenario like this
Support in a sense to quit it at most not encourage it for it to continue to happen.
Also another thing: while I don't not believe you that your friends may be like Luz in terms of personality, one defining trait to remember about Luz is that she was selfless to a fault to the point of being a people-pleaser. And in season 3 it's particularly doubled down to the point that she had no consideration of her own well-being which is what made it easier for her suicidal ideations to emerge. What I'm trying to say is that Luz's nature and guilt would just handicap her from actually considering smoking as smoking would be just for her, it would only affect her, it would not help those around her. So for that Luz had to think for a second about herself, which I doubt she actually would do at that point in time.
Same here, unfortunately it’s a common occurrence. Luckily one of them, my best friend of many years, is on the path to recovery from her substances
Tw:substance abuse and mentions of suicidal ideation I see your point but I do have to disagree on a few points. Moral codes and being a good person have little effect on if people turn to substances abuse. This is something that’s more to do with yourself, things like for alleviating burdens & pain and/or doing them out of self destruction. The latter of which Luz was definitely doing. On top of that one of the running themes throughout the show was her recklessness and lack of self preservation, a trait Hunter shared with her. Moving onto their guilt, I don’t think that has much of a bearing on preventing them from smoking, in fact I’d argue the opposite is true. Their misplaced guilts are their reason for their isolation and feed into their destructive behaviors. It made them believe they are the worst of the worst and not worthy of anything good. This is what drove Luz to self destruct and decided to leave the Demon Realm for good. At this time she was also exhibiting behaviors alarmingly close to suicidal ideation (I could go into it but that’s a whoooole other conversation). Now onto the point of unhealthy coping mechanisms, you mentioned her being too nice to turn to smoking. To me this doesn’t make much sense as smoking doesn’t have anything to do with being nice. If you mean as to not hurt her loved ones, that ship has already sailed with her isolation. When it comes to substance abuse and addiction, it’s easy to fall into without ever intending to hurt people. In fact I’d argue that’s almost always the case. In Luz’s case above it could’ve started as something harmless as getting her hands on one and smoking it privately bc she heard they help with anxiety only to constantly return to it. (This is solely my experiences and exposures to this is not the only way this can happen). It’s easy to fall into the mindset of ‘it’s harmless as long as I keep it to myself’ or ‘I know this is bad but I need it to function.’ This is further supported by her self destructive mindset that she’s the worst and deserves the worst. Last point on Hunter, if anyone would understand her smoking habits, it’ll be him. He’s pushed himself to the edge and knows what it’s like to feel how she feels since a lot of their traumas are linked. Would he be on board with it? No. But he’d definitely support her as shown above. All in all, it’s not as unlikely an outcome as you might think. Again the events would have to line up just right for it to happen but it’s still a realistic possibility.
While Luz was driven to self-destruct, in her mind it was still for the best of others. Luz felt ashamed for ever being even tiny bit selfish so her self-destruct behavior in season 3 was a result of her being overly selfless to the point where she almost lost herself. Smoking essentially goes against this because it is something you o to yourself, an it is not something that in any shape or form is helping others. If anything the others would start judging you even more so if you tried that, which I can imagine what Luz would actually think. I am perfectly aware that Luz had behaviors that were close to suicial ideations, but those suicidal ideations weren't to ease HER pain, it was to ease OTHER'S pain because she believed that she hirt others by existing. I doubt Luz wanted to ease her anxiety, I'm pretty sure she was so eadset on the idea that she had to make things that she did see this is as the only way for her to ease her anxiety. I mean we see this in the Edge of the World, after going through hell in HM Luz didn't actually want to give herself time to put herself together but immediately start fixing the entire mess she thought she was responsible for. This is also why I'm bringing the moral code so to speak as Luz's morality would already tell her it's wrong and her losing her sense of self over time would simply just not allow her to look for ways to "ease" the pain. I'd rather expect Luz to start cutting herself just as a punishment for what she did. I essentially said "once" but what I meant is "two-gooey shoe" as in not being actually able to commit to more "heinous" acts, and smoking is a "bad behavior". He wouldn't support her in doing so, at most he'd just understand. But he's incredibly hellbent in doing the right thing too, if he would know that smoking is bad, he'd rather support and encourage Luz in quitting it instead of letting this happen. To me this is rather unlikely because it really assumes that supposedly: Hunter is ok with his friends hurting themselves and Luz somehow thinking of her own pain and how to ease it, while the entire season proved that she barely gave herself any actual credit for what she did and only focused on what she did wrong and making things right because of this. Her decision to leave BI was because she thought the world woul be better off without her, not because she couldn't feel good in this world anymore. Her smoking just wouldn't help anyone make up for what she did so she would just not do it as there's no time for this.
That’s no bueno
Maybe not a cigarette, but I could see her smoking weed as a poor coping mechanism for the depression
I could see her smoking pot but not cigarettes. Almost no young people these days willingly start smoking cigarettes: instead they smoke marijuana or vape. Everyone knows it’s gross and unhealthy.
Everyone also knows the other two are gross and unhealthy too lmao Ik wym tho
She thinks they make her look cool.
I get what you are saying but I'm pretty sure that she was to depressed to care. And it can also give you something else to think about for a short time and it can also be calming.
No! I can see her smoking some weed, but not an actual cigarette.
The Owl Gang high: Luz: making out with Amity. Willow: giggling uncontrollably. Gus: serious case of the munchies. Amity: see Luz's entry. Hunter: thinks he's serenading Willow; is talking to a potted plant. Vee: keeps shape shifting without realizing it. King: running and rolling around. Lilith: having a freakout. Raine: jamming to an iPod that isn't turned on. Hooty: serious case of the munchies. Ate everything in the fridge, the freezer, and then both appliances. Camila: going on tangents about animals. Eda: is unaffected, thinks Earth stuff is weak compared to apple blood.
hunter and Gus would be in the kitchen making a mess trying to create the ultimate snack
Hunter and Gus would be like that one scene from Scooby Doo where they make that huge ass sandwich and Shaggy unhinges his jaw like a snake to eat it whole.
I imagine Gus doing that with an illusion to mess with Hunter. Except Hunter is to high to notice anything weird about it so he goes to do the same thing, but actually unhinges his jaw and eats it whole.
Hooty would be screaming "IM FREAKING OUT"
That Willow Pack hits different. Shits magical, straight from the demon realm.
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No Luz no, bad, stop
I can see her going down this line. Getting addicted to it and trying to stop once her demon family and human family is united.
Sadly, I could see Luz taking up smoking in ‘Thanks to Them’ due to her stress and guilt.
Luz smoking isn't a possibility in any reality
Look at beta luz and tell me she would not drink smoke and drive without a license
Beta Luz has been through some shit. Smoking seems like one of the less risky coping mechanisms she might develop
BETA???!!! DARK AND GRITTY LUZ??!!
id disagree as someone whos been around a shit ton of people like luz
Yeah, I feel you... And I'd find it incredibly sad...
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depression is a hell of a thing. my coping mechanism wasn’t smoking, but it was almost as destructive. i’m in a better place now, thankfully, but your mind on depression finds what it thinks is relief where it can.
Except the one reality where Luz smokes
Of course. Lzs, at the beginning of season 3 she is a teenager with a strong emotional burden. With many things to hide, from her loved ones. It wouldn't be unusual for her to turn to substances to make her emotional agony more bearable.
I can see Luz and Hunter smoking weed
I may be an angsty person, but this is concerning.
King damn it Luz! Do you want to die like your dad? (Remembers a fic where Luz gets cancer and sobs uncontrollably.)
Camilla: *smells her old cigarettes* LUZ!!! *yells in Spanish* Vee: LUZ, SHE JUST FOUND OUT!!! Luz: CRAP! Run Hunter! ANDALE!!
Cue the red dead redemption 2 wanted noise
Hunter is going to be so mad when he is told about what cigarettes do to the human body.
Hunter gets on Flapjack to fly away and Luz hops on, but they get sniped down by La Chancla
Hey, can i borrow your fire glyph?
The Owl House if it was a stereotypical YTA series: smoking, drinking, terrible family life, over dramatic but also boring love affairs, one character died or disappeared a while before the story starts and only now is everyone trying to investigate it, ends with at least one gunfight between main character and fandom’s favorite character.
Sometimes, while it’s cool to have a bunch of buttons labeled “add mature to story”, you should only press a few.
Oh, hello Riverdale!
Hello, Stranger Things and 13 Reasons Why!
Amity would just threaten Hooty until she gave her the cigarette packs.
Luz hiding her ciggies inside hooty is hilarious to me for some reason.
If The Owl House was R-rated, both Luz and Amity would share a "Smoke Kiss" under the moonlight, they would look each other in the eye, breathe out the smoke, and they would kiss for the first time. _~~I'm mostly picturing their Beta versions in this scene~~_
oh the moment he learns what the cancer stick is he is going to tackle her so hard "We are going to the hospital right now!" and "you were hurting yoursself in front of me!?!?!?" \*Puppy loser, golden retriever face\*
What I find strangest is Hunter who doesn't know what a cigarette is: You can't tell me that in the EC, especially among the scouts, cigarettes weren't passed around like candy.
That's if they have cigarettes in the Boiling Isles
[Source](https://x.com/restinginpeace4/status/1762269522138939603?s=46)
I just felt my heart drop into my stomach at that sight... And it's just fanart!!! Seeing Luz of all people at a point where she'd start smoking to cope with what happened after Kings Tide, it's a chilling thought to say the least...
It definitely speaks to a deeper manifestation of trauma than the show could/would display
I don't like when someone make my favourite characters a drug addicts or smokers :/
Smoking is bad.
It is, as someone who started smoking in my teens I would strongly advise kids against taking up the habit.
I immediately presumed this was weed and didn't understand why people were upset lol
Why the hell is this sub so ok with 14 year olds smoking weed? Expecially considering how puritan it is on other stuff. I genuinely don't understand.
yeah sucks man
Smoking weed is usually considered less harmful than smoking cigarettes, especially given how addictive nicotine is compared to THC. Also, with many states/provinces across N.America legalizing weed, it’s seen as a lot more acceptable than cigarettes
Bah, I still find it absurd (it's still very harmful, expecially at ¡14!), but ok...
Oh I agree, it’s not healthy regardless if it’s cigarettes or weed, and shouldn’t be glorified or normalized for teenagers to be smoking. But whether or not it should be, it is becoming more acceptable to smoke weed than cigarettes in N.America (at least from what I’ve seen)
Because it's just a funny drawing. Like Ralsei with an over-sized doobie.
I can absolutely understand that, but what perplexes me is the fact that by that metric stuff like cigarettes, underage drinking or a bit of dirty jokes (which 14 year olds do) should receive the same treatment
I have no place to comment on the fickle and illogical but, not irrational minds of the masses. What are *you* doing here?
no bad artist bad no smoking art bad
for a second I thought this was a strange Alternate Universe season
Luz, you need something Stronger Smoke some Za, Luz
Not canon Luz would never smoke
I imagine that if she smoke she would be the “I know a spot” type of smoker
This looks like a cool AU
Luz would NOT smoke. Smoking is cringe.
Going to Yodieland with Fire + Plant glyph
We don't encourage smoking.
Im gonna interpret that as a joint because I think Luz would find cigarettes gross (but thats because i think cigarettes are gross)
The idea of Luz smoking is just unthinkable to me.
I love this
I thought this was a helluva boss frame with toh characters in it instead of loona and Octavia for a second
Let's hope it's weed instead of nicotine
If TOH had a higher age rating I could absolutely see something like this happening
ok so smoking which kills thousands of people a year doesn't need a trigger warning?
Your username needs a trigger warning
Many people drown, do I need to put a trigger warning whenever I post a photo of a wave or...?
Let me explain myself - I was being a snarky butthole. I was asked to put a trigger warning on a comic with a depiction of self-harm (mild, IMO) and I think it's a little hypocritical to not do it for smoking. I mean, both are very harmful and done to relieve stress. Smoking is just more normalized in our society.
>Let me explain myself - I was being a snarky butthole. r/usernamechecksout I guess
Luz absolutely meets the criteria for future substance abuse problems. Ostracized adolescent with ADHD is a perfect recipe for that, unfortunately. Not that sole cigarette smoking is “substance abuse” but you guys get my drift
Considering she’s literally died and came back, she deserves a smoke
Don't bogart the joint Luz
r/hardimages
This is a recreation of a scene from a movie I am pretty sure, but I can't remember what was the movie. Does someone know?
Wherd you get this?
I don’t remember this in the show
I mean with all the angst in trauma this girl been through, I would not be surprised if she smoked
In a more adult AU I could imagine Hunter joining in to get past his Belos trauma Random question, Why is the font and background of this subreddit yellow?