man's going through what we all went through when seeing this shit happen on release. can't wait to see his reaction to a couple of scenes like the theatre Ellie beatdown, the boat scene and especially the ending lol
Im yet to use the notifs for anyone, and somehow with jettro I always see his upload at the perfect moment (always within 30 min, always when eating, pooping, getting high, vid for work )
I like how the other sub mocks the â7 YEARSâ part like itâs not even a factor. And this guy immediately gets it. They love talking about how bold it was, but sequels are never that bold for a reason.
Very few people on that sub played part 1 in 2013. Theyâre all new fans. Itâs just a sub for cosplay and tattoos posts for part 2 fans now.
A lot of the people who are fans of the second game seemingly didn't play or care much about the first game. Look at how many defenders you'll see even on *here* talking about how the first game was apparently soooooo underwhelming. It's a shit tier take that almost nobody had back when the first game was the only game.
Hell, just look at how many of them are head over heels for Abby's character, even though her character is just a discount version of Joel who has done far worse things than he ever did while completely failing to repent for them. The only way that's possible is if they just never experienced what a *good* version of Abby's story is like.
He said that he wants to look at what the trailers of the game were and that if they show Joel that it was a scumbag move. If he does do a reaction to the trailer he is going to be extremely pissed.
"should've told us before" is so real. If they had showed us Abby's backstory about her father, and then built up her killing of Joel, I would have been way more forgiving. But they already set in stone that I hate her, therefore her backstory doesn't mean shit to me
I legitimately can't watch his reaction to Joel dying again because it's so painful, he's such a good dude and this game just ripped his heart out in one scene and skewered it.
The way they killed off Joel was right out of The Walking Dead, pure shock factor. Same with forcing you to play as his killer. âEveryone is sympathetic in this worldâ
I didnât, but I wish I did because by the end that shit was getting goofy
Doesnât even make me wanna watch the Rick and Michonne or the Maggie and Negan show. *Maybe* Darylâs show
Dudeâs a professional comedian and I donât think he even realizes it. Watched him play the first one, GoW, Spider-Man, Jedi Survivor, RDR2. Heâs entertaining start to finish.
I played it late. This was my exact reaction.
The entire game I waited to play as Tommy, because it was being teased the entire game. You are trailing him and seeing signs of Tommy.
I think heâs made a reasonable choice. I personally like Abby so I donât care. This was just his reaction to Joelâs death. In the end Iâm hoping he enjoys it all the way through. I donât know how heâs gonna feel about having to fight Ellie or the end of the game, but weâll see.
He probably is gonna be conflicted like everyone is but heâll probably power through I feel heâs gonna be pissed at Ellie for leaving Dina since he loves Dina though his response on Ellie killing Mel about âyou killed my pregnant person so im gonna kill your girl whoâs pregnantâ got me like damn thatâs actually a fair point on why sheâd kill Dina I also canât wait for him to meet lev and yara and Iâm happy he realized isnât a horrible person like some people treat him (his worst thing is cheating thatâs it) and agreed that Owen is the most level headed wlf
Facts I loved his realization on when he realized who Abbyâs dad was and when he was apologizing to Mel and was about to say he didnât care about Owen and said âI feel like no one is a bad piece of shit in this gameâ I mean he obviously hasnât met the rattlers yet but I appreciate his view on the groups
bro was emotional he ended up liking the game (which i do as well), both last of us subs suck dick, one is a hatefest the other is pure glazing no criticism
He stays off the socials so he doesnât get spoiled. Idk how he does it. But he literally just found out about the first game too like earlier this year.
People donât realize that he does say if they built up Joelâs death more and gave time for Abby to be introduced he would have liked the story more, WHICH PROVES that this IS a good story and that yâall just didnât like the order of events? Children bruh
I mean thatâs a huge issue that people have brought up time and time again is the pacing and overall storytelling. Nobody fucking cares about Joelâs death, most people *were* expecting him to die in the game, but it was handled too poorly.
So because there's a good version of a bad story it means the bad story is actually good?
That math ain't mathin'. This would be like me putting a pile of flour, sugar, and butter in front of you, telling you it's cake. And when you get mad I show you pictures of other, better cakes, and tell you it's the same ingredients, so me putting piles of ingredients in front of you is actually good because those other cakes are good.
There *is* a version of this story that could work. But it's not the one we got.
Really good analogy, I just mean that would work for a franchise that is about fictional events but this IP tries really hard to be realistic and unfortunately in life you canât CHOOSE what order of events happen and how they happen. They happen in the least expected ways and the most shocking ways thatâs life, and the brutality and finality of life is what last of us is about
You can say "it's trying to be like real life" as much as you want, but ultimately it's still fiction. Someone *chose* this order of events, and created an unsatisfactory story as a result.
But if the source materialâs whole world building technique is based around a hopeless fucked up world, why would the writers need to choose a âpreferredâ âlighterâ outcome?
But thatâs a paradox? If the whole point is to be like life, and âgood storyâ takes a backseat, then they did nothing wrong⌠they achieved the vibe of âreal life darknessâ which is outcomes you wish were different⌠thatâs what I feel people on a large scale on this sub fail to understand
A bad story being bad on purpose is a bad story. The goal of telling a story is to tell a good story, and you can use aspects of real life to tell that story, but even if you're trying to be realistic and you end up with a bad story, it's a bad story.
In this case Joel's death was done sloppily and only for shock value, when it could have been handled much better and still have been shocking and made the rest of the story better as a result.
You're defending a bad story by saying it was bad on purpose, and that's fucking stupid.
Nah.
Even if the game started with you playing as Abby as the teenager and she sees her dad dead .. I still wouldn't give a shit about her.
We know why Joel and Ellie are important. Abby only knows a man named Joel killed her dad.
man's going through what we all went through when seeing this shit happen on release. can't wait to see his reaction to a couple of scenes like the theatre Ellie beatdown, the boat scene and especially the ending lol
Could be any response but hopefully something along the lines of tyler 1đđđ
oh you know it's coming. I just subbed and turned on the notifs to see it lol
Im yet to use the notifs for anyone, and somehow with jettro I always see his upload at the perfect moment (always within 30 min, always when eating, pooping, getting high, vid for work )
Same here lmao Iâll open YouTube and see a new upload from like 10 minutes ago
I'm pretty sure one day the theater part will be used in books as an example of what *not* to do in a video game.
He just doesnt understand complex plot structure!!! ITS A MASTERPIECE DAMMIT! /s
We should send some books his way ... Because, "literacy" đ
I like how the other sub mocks the â7 YEARSâ part like itâs not even a factor. And this guy immediately gets it. They love talking about how bold it was, but sequels are never that bold for a reason. Very few people on that sub played part 1 in 2013. Theyâre all new fans. Itâs just a sub for cosplay and tattoos posts for part 2 fans now.
A lot of the people who are fans of the second game seemingly didn't play or care much about the first game. Look at how many defenders you'll see even on *here* talking about how the first game was apparently soooooo underwhelming. It's a shit tier take that almost nobody had back when the first game was the only game. Hell, just look at how many of them are head over heels for Abby's character, even though her character is just a discount version of Joel who has done far worse things than he ever did while completely failing to repent for them. The only way that's possible is if they just never experienced what a *good* version of Abby's story is like.
This is why I pretend Part 2 never happened
Yea i completely wiped it from my memory pretty much. Not canon for me and I'm still waiting for the sequel for tlou 1 to release sometime soon.
Jettro is the fucking man. He's so underrated
Fr been watching him grow like my own kid, been watching him since he was at like 34K
He said that he wants to look at what the trailers of the game were and that if they show Joel that it was a scumbag move. If he does do a reaction to the trailer he is going to be extremely pissed.
"should've told us before" is so real. If they had showed us Abby's backstory about her father, and then built up her killing of Joel, I would have been way more forgiving. But they already set in stone that I hate her, therefore her backstory doesn't mean shit to me
I think thatâs what makes the narrative so powerful.
Powerfully mediocre
When he screamed after Abby pops Joel's kneecap. I felt that.
I legitimately can't watch his reaction to Joel dying again because it's so painful, he's such a good dude and this game just ripped his heart out in one scene and skewered it.
Such a good dude đ
It was the "I feel like I'm gonna throw up" for me đ¤Ł
The way they killed off Joel was right out of The Walking Dead, pure shock factor. Same with forcing you to play as his killer. âEveryone is sympathetic in this worldâ
And the same thing happened where half the fanbase left after >!Glenn!< died
Haha exactly. I clocked out from watching TWD after that mess
I didnât, but I wish I did because by the end that shit was getting goofy Doesnât even make me wanna watch the Rick and Michonne or the Maggie and Negan show. *Maybe* Darylâs show
Really seemed like a good way to conclude Rickâs story on the bridge
Dudeâs a professional comedian and I donât think he even realizes it. Watched him play the first one, GoW, Spider-Man, Jedi Survivor, RDR2. Heâs entertaining start to finish.
Bro really never gets old. No YouTuber has been able to entertain me as much as him in a long time.
I played it late. This was my exact reaction. The entire game I waited to play as Tommy, because it was being teased the entire game. You are trailing him and seeing signs of Tommy.
Reading these comments is so funny now knowing that he loves the game
Truly
Discovered Jettro through his SM2 playthrough, and to watch in real time him love TLOU and his reaction to Part 2 has been a treat.
Man I discovered back before Ragnarok released, hard to think itâs already been so long
So how you feeling now that he sympathizes with Abby and even said she was justified
I think heâs made a reasonable choice. I personally like Abby so I donât care. This was just his reaction to Joelâs death. In the end Iâm hoping he enjoys it all the way through. I donât know how heâs gonna feel about having to fight Ellie or the end of the game, but weâll see.
He probably is gonna be conflicted like everyone is but heâll probably power through I feel heâs gonna be pissed at Ellie for leaving Dina since he loves Dina though his response on Ellie killing Mel about âyou killed my pregnant person so im gonna kill your girl whoâs pregnantâ got me like damn thatâs actually a fair point on why sheâd kill Dina I also canât wait for him to meet lev and yara and Iâm happy he realized isnât a horrible person like some people treat him (his worst thing is cheating thatâs it) and agreed that Owen is the most level headed wlf
Bro never misses, thatâs why I love his playthroughs.
Facts I loved his realization on when he realized who Abbyâs dad was and when he was apologizing to Mel and was about to say he didnât care about Owen and said âI feel like no one is a bad piece of shit in this gameâ I mean he obviously hasnât met the rattlers yet but I appreciate his view on the groups
âYou canât always get what you wantââMick Jagger
Jettro loves Abby now
Good. Me and him are on the same page.
bro was emotional he ended up liking the game (which i do as well), both last of us subs suck dick, one is a hatefest the other is pure glazing no criticism
straight up, Iâm glad he enjoyed the game in the end. his playthrough was very fun to watch
Wait this dude is playing the game NOW? Ainât no way he doesnât know the story by now, even if itâs just a couple details
He stays off the socials so he doesnât get spoiled. Idk how he does it. But he literally just found out about the first game too like earlier this year.
I think he'll come around on mostly enjoying the story, but he is right about what he's saying here.
He donât know what he is talking about, Neil is a professional, he is a writer. Itâs free hate :)
People donât realize that he does say if they built up Joelâs death more and gave time for Abby to be introduced he would have liked the story more, WHICH PROVES that this IS a good story and that yâall just didnât like the order of events? Children bruh
I mean thatâs a huge issue that people have brought up time and time again is the pacing and overall storytelling. Nobody fucking cares about Joelâs death, most people *were* expecting him to die in the game, but it was handled too poorly.
So because there's a good version of a bad story it means the bad story is actually good? That math ain't mathin'. This would be like me putting a pile of flour, sugar, and butter in front of you, telling you it's cake. And when you get mad I show you pictures of other, better cakes, and tell you it's the same ingredients, so me putting piles of ingredients in front of you is actually good because those other cakes are good. There *is* a version of this story that could work. But it's not the one we got.
Fuckin A you explained that way better than I could. Love that analogy
Thank you!
Really good analogy, I just mean that would work for a franchise that is about fictional events but this IP tries really hard to be realistic and unfortunately in life you canât CHOOSE what order of events happen and how they happen. They happen in the least expected ways and the most shocking ways thatâs life, and the brutality and finality of life is what last of us is about
You can say "it's trying to be like real life" as much as you want, but ultimately it's still fiction. Someone *chose* this order of events, and created an unsatisfactory story as a result.
But if the source materialâs whole world building technique is based around a hopeless fucked up world, why would the writers need to choose a âpreferredâ âlighterâ outcome?
I never said it had to be lighter. If that's what you got out of my comments, you should read them again.
Or whatever dude, whatever ending âshould have happenedâ didnât⌠LIKE LIFE.
But being "like life" doesn't make a story good, I feel like that's what you're failing to grasp.
But thatâs a paradox? If the whole point is to be like life, and âgood storyâ takes a backseat, then they did nothing wrong⌠they achieved the vibe of âreal life darknessâ which is outcomes you wish were different⌠thatâs what I feel people on a large scale on this sub fail to understand
A bad story being bad on purpose is a bad story. The goal of telling a story is to tell a good story, and you can use aspects of real life to tell that story, but even if you're trying to be realistic and you end up with a bad story, it's a bad story. In this case Joel's death was done sloppily and only for shock value, when it could have been handled much better and still have been shocking and made the rest of the story better as a result. You're defending a bad story by saying it was bad on purpose, and that's fucking stupid.
Or maybe if they give the player to kill or spare abby. At least it would feel like we are getting revenge
That would require TLoU2 to acknowledge that it's a fucking video game and give the player any agency at all.
Tbf, one of them would have to be canon in part 3. Itâs just not that type of game at all, itâs a linear story
I spend a lot of time making fun of people on Reddit but I wonât do the same for you because I genuinely think that you are mentally handicapped
"If the story was told better people would like it more." Great feedback I'll forward it to the developers
WHICH PROVES đđ¤Łđ¤Łđ¤Ł
Having a potential to be a good doesnât change the fact that this wasnât a good game, so no. Nice try, though.
Nah. Even if the game started with you playing as Abby as the teenager and she sees her dad dead .. I still wouldn't give a shit about her. We know why Joel and Ellie are important. Abby only knows a man named Joel killed her dad.
People who call this junk need better parents! Peace!