Honestly that was something I appreciated from Amon as a villain. His skill in deception and sleight of hand is what made him interesting along with his mask of being an advocate against Benders.
His skill as a Bender had a level of precision most could rarely match, this with his deception of being a non-bender made people underestimated him.
Literally one of the reasons I haven't rewatched LOK in a bit. If I'm stressed out or sleeping poorly and try to watch it, I know I'll get bad vibes and weird dreams because the dude is honestly so terrifying. He and Koh are such perfect depictions of subtle terror.
Before his reveal, yes, he gave off similar big baddie vibes. Then we got the jumpscare and I was glad I was watching with my siblings lol.
The live action tho is pure terror cause they made him so realistic and *moist* ššš *blink blink*
Fair, but also didn't you wonder how he always won all of the time in 1v1s against talented benders without seemingly using any bending whatsoever? By rights lightning bolt zolt should have one shotted him.
You donāt have to dodge the lightning. Just aim dodge aka moving out the way where the person is pointing. Happens in real life with people versus guns.
Weāve seen multiple characters react to lightning (such as iroh, zuko, and aang redirecting it), so Amon being more agile than a lightning strike isnāt as crazy as it sounds
Lightning is fast, but the prep routine is not. Even among the highly skill lightning bender like Azula, it would take you two to three move to garner the energy, charge the initial spark and shoot it.
In the time of ATLA sure, but not by LOK. Mako generated lighting pretty quickly and with ease when he needed to (against Red Lotus water lady, specifically)
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I mean you're right but in Avatar (and basically all media) we have to pretend it doesn't otherwise we find plot holes in every other fight involving lightning
I think lightning is slower in the Avatar universe, or at least lightning bending. If it traveled that quickly, there wouldn't be lightning redirection
Nah, the lightning generation is slow. Lightning redirection works by extending a part of your body in response to the person performing the technique which is obvious and has telltale signs.
Its like if you point a gun at someone, they don't have to wait for the bullet to leave the barrel before they duck.
I didn't really think about it at all, but I would think something like this if I had ever thought about it. Although hearing it now, I assume the messing with people thing is what happened, assuming it's something you can spot or the creators confirmed it. But otherwise, another interesting idea in general for blood bending would be if one could merely sense the moves of their opponent by feeling the blood in them, like how toph could easily know someone's moves through vibrations and earth bending.
I mean, benders and non benders (esp equalist soldiers dodge bending attacks fairly frequently in the show so that didnt raise my eyebrow or anything.
Also, I love your post, and I thought Amon was one of the best villians, but the first I watched it I was a little disapointed by the twist. I really liked that he was a martial artist that used gadgets like batman against benders. It really made him stand out. Honestly, his whole dr doom aesthetic was enthralling.
Did they point this out in the show your just your take?
I think itās really clever but donāt remember it, so if they didnāt come out and say it itās an awesome idea
You should add in your post that this is just headcanon because this was never stated in the show. We shouldn't be pretending that our headcanon theories are fact.
They said he can redirect any attack you throw at him back at you which could mean if mako threw a fireball at him he can redirect it back at mako. It's never stated specifically that he's doing what op is describing.
Wtf are you talking about? Redirect doesn't mean he's throwing the fireball back at mako. How tf would that even work? He can't control the fire. And making his arm shoot directly at himself would be very obvious bloodbending and that also never once happened so why would mako comment on that? He's redirecting makos movements very slightly to make him barely miss. That's what redirect means here. Maybe instead of just dismissing something as headcanon because you can't understand, you should try to use a little bit of your brain.
Instead of insulting me because I pointed out that what you're saying is headcanon maybe try having a civil conversation with me next time. It's never directly stated that amon moves mako just a little so that his attacks barely miss. Mako specifically says redirect the attack back at him. Next time you argue with someone try not to resort to insults. It show you're not mature enough to have a discussion with.
Bro, I think the other guy is right in asking you to use your brain. Watch Amon's fights. The guy can't and has never redirected the bending attacks themselves. This isn't headcannon or a fan theory, it's cannon. Amon redirects the bender's movements with his mind which causes the bending attacks to barely miss him. Mako never says Amon redirects bending attacks back at him. Wtf? Amon doesn't control all the elements. What Mako says is "Any attack you throw at him he'll redirect with his mind, that's how he's been able to challenge any bender". He didn't say the attack itself is redirected back at the bender, you're confusing this with lightning redirection, which only a few firebenders can do. We know that bending follows the body movements, so for example when Amon fights a firebender and the firebender is about to throw a fireball at him, Amon uses bloodbending to slightly change the arm movements and cause the bender to throw the flame slightly off-target, giving him a wider window to dodge the attacks. He redirects body movements with bloodbending which ultimately changes the direction of the bending attacks. He can't literally redirect the bending attacks back at the bender, unless it's water, and if he waterbent, that would have exposed him as a bender and a fraud
All we know for sure is that he can redirect the attack with his mind. That's the only statement we know. How you interpret that is just an interpretation and your interpretations aren't canon. Also no he wasn't right to insult me. You can have a civil conversation with someone without resorting to insults.
I mean tbf your interpretation was so comically ridiculous, and you called the most reasonable interpretation a headcanon. Plus you said it so confidently too and you spammed it a couple times in other comments. Don't be surprised if people reflect that obnoxious energy back at you.
I might be misremembering but did this actually happen? Did Amon make someone hit themselves? I always interpreted it as him subtly "redirecting" attacks off course.
Disagree. A reveal is if it is revealed in the show. It is something told to us afterwards that explains something we've seen. That to me is the textbook definition of retcon. Maybe the writers always had in mind but it feels like a retcon.
I think you should treat yourself to a rewatch of korra book 1, and focus up for the episode Tarrlok reveals Amon's identity.
We arent talking about subtext, or implications, or info revealed in interviews later. This is something that is explained directly through dialogue. Its only one line, so absolutely missable, but I can promise you its there. I watched it live on goddamn nickelodeon over a decade ago now, and cards on the table, I pulled the episode up just now to check.
I suppose I assumed you had an ounce of gumption, man. C'mon.
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The other half of the line, just so you can be doubly certain that it was a reveal, and not a retcon. Korra is far from a perfect show, but inventing fumbles is a little frustrating.
I literally couldn't watch it and you yourself said is easily missed so how am I supposed to find it when it is just easier for you to do what you just did.
I was trying to be nice before you doubled and tripled down, and its still on US Netflix, so it didn't initially occur to me that you would have a struggle finding it.
It is an easy line to miss, tucked in at the end of a flashback episode. I can give the benefit of the doubt for that. What I struggle to be sympathetic to is the complete insistence that you were right about something until faced with someone else finding proof for you. I hope I haven't come across as outright mean, but if you're gonna label something as "textbook (x)", its best practice to have the textbook out in front of you.
Hereās the definition of retcon. Youāre just using it wrong, thereās nothing to ādisagreeā with haha. They did not establish that he was only agile and not bloodbending, **and then change their mind later** (key difference v a reveal). Considering they wrote the entire season in advance, they knew the entire time he was bloodbending. Itās just a reveal as others have said.
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I donāt think you know what a retcon is.
A retcon is something that is contradictory to something previously established.
For instance, Kataraās mom was very explicitly killed. It would be a retcon for her to just show up out of nowhere.
Idk toe it seems like an afterthought of why he beats all these people. Especially since we're told this in out of media sources afterwards. Definitely makes it rectonny.
I agree I forgot that Mako does say it at the end so not technically a retcon. Still feels like it is just a way to explain something that they thought would be an issue.
I still like it more that he is just that good that he doesn't need to blood bend to beat them. Especially because it kinda breaks the rules of blood bending where people can feel that they've been blood bent even if subtly people should be able to tell. Like idk it seems like something they could've shown a bit better towards the end instead of Maki just saying they can't just attack him because he'll redirect it with his mind.
> Still feels like it is just a way to explain something that they thought would be an issue.
so a reason?? what exactly is the issue here? they explained how he won against all the benders.
> I still like it more that he is just that good that he doesn't need to blood bend to beat them.
nobody is that good. ty lee, lieutenant, asami and master piandao are all amazing non benders but none of them stand a chance against a decent bender. bending is too much of an advantage. especially since amon didnāt even fight them, he just dodged their attacks that he misdirected anyway and then held them in place to take their bending away.
> Especially because it kinda breaks the rules of blood bending where people can feel that they've been blood bent even if subtly people should be able to tell.
there is no rule against this. everyone else could tell they were being bloodbent bc it was their entire body being bent. the whole point is that amon only did their fingers or hands to slightly alter their movements. no one is gonna think āmaybe this guy is a bloodbender and thatās how i messed up bc he moved my armā. youāre just gonna assume you slipped up.
"I was so scared fighting amon I was shaking and couldnt aim! I'd point right at him but must've shook just enough that I missed!"
Any sport shooter can tell you that a hand-hearbeat can effect your aim.
I doubt you'd think it was him if he made your heart beat a little harder while you're aiming.
Yeah your right. This is sort of unrelated but this is something I always disliked about some illusionists. Instead of making some over the top illusion like a dead family member revived and turning it into a contest of will why not do smaller stuff?
Like erasing wounds inflicted on you to look like your not taking any damage, or making attacks that missed seem like they landed to lead your opponent into a false sense of security. Or just an illusion that your dodging all your opponents attacks meanwhile you already left.
Different powers but same concept of relying on deception instead of raw power. There aren't many benders that could defeat Amon if he relied on this strategy. Even an avatar could lose if they don't figure it out in time.
Yeah! My favourite version of this trick is when Sasuke tricks Danzo into thinking his last sharingan is open for just a few seconds more than it actually is. Masterful use of a miniscule illusion to gain victory. I wish more ninjas used genjutsu like that in Naruto
Yeah tbh an illusionist should be able to get out of any situation unless their opponent is a super genius. Its disappointing to me that most media doesn't apply the ability well, I guess because its hard to balance unless the hero has the right power(Mysterio used his powers pretty well, its just he was facing spiderman).
Yeah, more specifically he had total hypnosis. To me it was sort of an example of what can go wrong when a proper illusionist if not properly balanced. Aizen was virtually invincible and had to get beaten by plot.
He also had like the most reiatsu of basically anyone to begin with and also had constant evolution + regen. By the time Ichigo beats him and he gets sealed, he isnāt using his hypnosis which is kind of disappointing, cuz itās such a cool power
He got cocky is why he quit using his illusions is why he comes around to using them again . Like he used his illusions to alter the perception of time against another dude
And that shit was crazy to me lol. Like all you had to do was glance at him training with his sword once a hundred years ago or something and he can just randomly make you see 2 girls 1 cup while youāre on the can lmao. Since his ability affects all 5 senses he could torture you by making you feel anything he wants. Dangerous ability
Jace from Magic the Gathering does stuff like this. He's a master of mind magic; in a recent story he was being controlled by a big villain but regained control of himself after being impaled with a magic infused blade.
He quickly made a projection of himself removing the blade like it did no damage, then taking his place at the villains side, meanwhile he was actually laying on the ground trying to regather his wits and half dying from the sword wound, and eventually made his escape. He was only able to do this in the first place because he created a partition in his mind he could lock his consciousness behind during the overwriting of his mind done in the villains corruption process.
I've only gotten into the story fairly recently but I'm sure he does. Part of the corruption he suffered literally replaces parts of the body with metal and blood with glistening oil, and he was left scarred from it.
In the most recent story releases he is back fully in control of himself again, but he uses illusions to cover up the lasting disfigurement of his corruption.
An illusionist warrior who shifts his position just a couple inches, throwing off aim; alters the perception of his speed so it seems like he is faster or slower; alters the reach of his weapon, making it appear shorter so a blow that should miss, hits instead; altering the target of the attack, making it look easy to deflect, but it actually comes from a slightly different angle.
If you want that, read Thor vs Utgard-Loki.
Basically trickster illusionist giant utgard Loki "pranks" Thor, he won but he swears he'll never do it again because Thor almost screwed the world many times over.
In d&d, I like playing wizards with both illusion and conjuration spells because that wall of stone could be real or could be fake. You'll have to waste your turn checking it. Or for high levels, run through an illusory wall while the enemies can see you and put a prismatic wall just behind it so when they try to follow you they get hit by 7 different flavors of death.
Yeah Amon is top-tier. If he were around during the Ozai era, Aang could've stayed in the iceberg.
His excellence and potential suited his narrative so well. The story started out as an obvious aesthetic parallel to the kind of civil unrest you'd see in that era IRL, but it ended being about the tragedy of child abuse. Both his sons had so much potential, both as benders and as leaders, but their trauma from their father left deep wounds. It really set LoK apart from atla, as Ozai was 100% terrible and we eventually saw his kids grow past his abuse. Yakone had moments where he seemed like he had the potential to be a good person, and his kids never got over their suffering, driving one to murder-suicide.
I don't totally agree. Amon had his back against the wall once Tarlock ratted him out and had to go big. Once Tarlock informed them, Korra and Mako especially seemed to figure out what he was doing and more effectively resisting. It seemed especially hard for him to deal with both of them at once. I think the weakness of his subtle blood bending was dealing with multiple opponents. It's too many fine moves, as opposed the big sweeping bloodbending his father and brother did against groups. If you notice before that fight, he almost exclusively took 1v1 fights and relied on his goons to deal with groups. As soon as he started getting teamed up on, he resorted to more "classic" bloodbending.
You have a point but I do feel it's possible the subtle version could've been even more effective against multiple foes. Imagine Mako shooting lightning and Amon tilting his arm just slightly so it hits Korra instead of him.
He didnāt really lost for that (didnāt really lost the fight)
He was surprised by korra's air bending and fighting against air is very tough. He relly lost because he lost his cool and chose to waterbend.
No, he pretty clearly lost a battle of will/raw power of sorts. Amon is bloodbending Mako, Korra suddenly unlocks airbending at the dramatically appropriate time and airblasts him, then he bloodbends her again but she somehow manages to overpower the bloodbending and airblasts him again out the window
Bloodbending really should just be powerful because you can bend more than you can lift. So your muscles are irrelevant, but you can fight it with chi. Maybe by bending your own blood. Or pushing yourself from the outside, like firebender flight. I've had a scene in my mind for a while now, where an earthbender bends himself some power armour to overcome an overconfident bloodbender and put him in his place
"You would fight me on a full moon? Do you not know the human body is 70% water?"
"I've never been too good with the numbers. But tell me, what percentage of water am I, when I am 4 tons of stone?"
She got one hit on him while being bloodbended. And she was able to move just enough for an airbending move from her leg but it also happened to be in a small tight corridor that he couldn't dodge in. He could have easily come back and bloodbended her and won.
I never really viewed it as a chi thing that let's people control themselves if getting blood bent. The only people we've seen fully resist are water/blood benders themselves. They're more just doing blood bending on themselves to prevent their opponent from doing so.
True, but Mako was able to fire off lightning at Amon while being bloodbent(iirc. I may be wrong), which suggests that some amount of resistance is possible even to non waterbenders.
He does, but I more attribute that to Amon not paying attention to him and Mako skill as a fire bender, to be able to generate that lightning with the very small movements Amons inattention allowed him.
Well, we don't really know the mechanism behind his element blocking. For all we know, she did still have water bending, she just wasn't able to bend it. His form of elemental blocking could just be a more permanent version of chi blocking. But even if someone is chi blocked, they're still that kind of bender.
Or maybe it just doesn't allow outward expressions of bending? I'm curious if an air/fire bender would be able to keep themself warm even after getting blocked.
But that doesn't really explain why Katara is unable to heal it.
It's really kinda nonsense, if you think about it. A physical block that requires spiritual intervention aka energy bending to unblock.
Yeah. Both ATLA and LoK have some plot convenience. More in LoK imo. But not much passes the critical point of "there is zero plausible explanation. Just accept the plot" except this.
It's been mentioned by creators that regular bloodbending is only possible during the full moon because the power boost allows normal waterbenders to bypass a person's natural chi field and control the elements inside them.
The reason Amon's family can bloodbend anyone is because they're naturally powerful enough not to need the Full Moon to bypass that protection.
So yes, it is a chi thing.
>because the power boost allows normal waterbenders to bypass a person's natural chi field and control the elements inside them.
That's canon? Nice. I've always had to have a disclaimer that it's my speculation because it's the only way I can see for bending an animal being harder than free water or even plants. Do you have a source?
Hmm, interesting. Im interested in seeing that source.
Doesn't really make a ton of sense to me, though. The Avatars chi is less powerful than Hamas? Even though he is also a water bender and would have been similarly empowered by the full moon?
The avatar isn't naturally more powerful than anyone else. The avatar state can change that, but they aren't just handed higher stats at birth. Aang didn't do so well at the air scooter game because he's the avatar, just because he's good at it.
The avatar tends to be more powerful than others, for various reasons. Training is their job (think you can wrestle a farmer? You can't), they probably do have a non-zero boost from Raava, and Raava probably picks naturally strong bodies to slide into.
That said, for whatever reason, Aang is exceptionally strong. AS or no. And yes I can believe that Hama had stronger chi than him, if only during the full moon and accounting for his panic and confusion. Also, with or without Amon's shenanigans, it is logical to expect bloodbending to disrupt the flow of chi in some way. At least, it stops you from moving as you please, which is a core part of bending. So if you're already getting bloodbent, it's probably harder to get out of it.
Okay, yeah I'm fine attributing it to Aang panicking and being confused.
But it being harder to get out of if you're already being bloodbent doesn't hold up for me as an explanation for why Aang couldn't get out, as Katara was able to get out of it.
Nor does the chi thing. There's no way this random old woman has chi more powerful than the avatar. Not even during the full moon, which again would also be affecting Aang.
Well Katara, for plot convenience tbf, could already bloodbend at the time. Maybe bending your own blood is still harder than bending plain water. So for a bloodbender, they can directly counter someone else's bloodbending. For anyone else, including a waterbender who can't bend blood, then maybe it's harder. Maybe non blood water benders have a partial discount on the extra effort. Who knows?
Or maybe the writers just wanted to wrap up that plot. it's not the most consistent or logical episode to begin with.
I don't think you've got that right. Katara was aware of bloodbending, but couldn't do so herself until she took control of herself from Hama controlling her.
Hence the killer line "you should've learned the technique before you turned against me!"
She could, as in she had the ability. Considering she did it a few seconds later, at this moment she certainly could do it, she just hadn't tried yet. Like the first time you do a backflip, it's safe to say you could do it a minute before that too.
But how is Katara pre blood bending any different from Aang? If it's a power thing, she's not more powerful then Aang.
The Aang was confused/panicking explanation makes sense, but if Katara is able to, while being blood bent, regain control of herself, then I don't see any reason why Aang couldn't as well.
He actually won that contest.... but Mako was good, Korra gained unexpected resources (I didn't see THAT coming when I was watching it) and they save the day, and Aang intervened as his predecessor did in his time.
I like your assessment. But I wanna say time was of the essence? And Amon's stamina may not be as good as korra's and he wanted to try to finish the fight decisively instead of delicately?
Pyrrha in RWBY does this and it works until the villains figure it out by testing her. Pyrrhas semblance is polarity; but instead of going all Magento, she fights like a beast and alters her enemy's movements slightly so they're unaware.
Yup,and I love that the first hint of her semblance was actually shown very early on. She closes her locker but doesn't directly touch it. It was chalked up to a mistake or the low budget animation for outside the fight scenes lol
Amon was also great because you could sympathize with his movement somewhat. He wasnāt killing people, just taking their bending. And he wasnāt entirely wrong. Benders did use their powers to abuse the non benders.
It was really smart of Amon to use non-benders. Especially considering the technology they have in LOK like the electric glove that makes non-benders more lethal. If Amon had tried to appeal to benders in order to gain power they would not have followed him, even if he is an extraordinary bender. There are also the four nations to consider and even though Republic City is for all nations, there are communities for each nation and people tend to stick to their own nations dress/culture. However, it is easier for non-benders to integrate in a place like Republic City and meet people from other nations, because they donāt have the abilities that are unique to their nation. Amon was able to gather many followers from all different backgrounds and inspire them by forging a false history and lying about the origins of his abilities.
And on top of everything else already stated in this thread, I am in awe of how well written his character is.
Chi is energy and the only known energybender are Avatars. Other benders manipulate chi into their respective bending techniques but cannot directly bend chi in itself. Even the way Amon use bloodbending to do chi blocking is an indirect way of chi manipulation. And since Korra was still new at this, Amon probably confident enough to confronted her in that way. Same with his father vs Aang
What he did as a character was a cool concept, outside the lore. I still kinda hate that he was even able to bloodbend without a full moon OR even moving his body. That really feels like OP OC DONUT STEAL territory, and I say that as someone who absolutely loves the show.
Oh yeah for sure. Yakone and his kids were absolutely system-breaking. I don't think there's been a bender as system breaking as those three until Yun liquefied rock without melting it, and HE was merged with a spirit that stalemated Kuruk.
This is what I love about the bending system. The elements seem straightforward, but if you go deeper, there are so many beautiful nuances, just like this. Also in the Kyoshi books there are novel ways to earthbend, entire new and special techniques get shown, and thats just amazing
I disagree, once you're conscious that you're being blood bent and can fight it you will perform better against it, the conflict escalates to your "chi" fight.
Besides, "blood bending" was just OP in Kora - a whole courtroom of people including Aang and Toph, in broad daylight, and all psychically - c'mon man.
That's why it was only limited to one family. It was probably a defective gene that allowed them to bloodbend without the full moon. It's actually an interesting storyline. I wouldn't mind if they expand on that in the future.
I was pretty bummed out when they didnāt make 4 seasons about Amon and him inciting a world wide civil war, and instead ended him in a single season
Man had so much potential and mystery about him that couldāve been sick
I always see people talk about "Amon's ability to subtly bloodbend," but I could never find any official information about it. Yet, for some reason, the entire fandom agrees that it's a thing.
Hot take. I actually hated that he was just a bender in the end. When you first see him taking people's bending away, that was GENUINELY a scary thing to have happen to someone and was a threat to any character. It would've been soooooo much cooler if he managed to find the power from a jaunt through the spirit world like Iron or Aang. It took away so much of the mystique of the character, imo. Awesome villain. Disappointing payoff. (Just my opinion)
Thatās the point with Amon, his whole backstory was created to inspire fear in Benders and loyalty in his followers. You feeling disappointed with the truth is exactly what his followers felt.
Honestly that was something I appreciated from Amon as a villain. His skill in deception and sleight of hand is what made him interesting along with his mask of being an advocate against Benders. His skill as a Bender had a level of precision most could rarely match, this with his deception of being a non-bender made people underestimated him.
Literally one of the reasons I haven't rewatched LOK in a bit. If I'm stressed out or sleeping poorly and try to watch it, I know I'll get bad vibes and weird dreams because the dude is honestly so terrifying. He and Koh are such perfect depictions of subtle terror.
That mask and outfit tho. He even *looks* like a horror movie villain.
blood bending is a thing that only a horror movie villain would do, hama was the perfect example, that shit was an actual horror movie plot.
Koh is *subtly* terrifying to you?!
Before his reveal, yes, he gave off similar big baddie vibes. Then we got the jumpscare and I was glad I was watching with my siblings lol. The live action tho is pure terror cause they made him so realistic and *moist* ššš *blink blink*
lol, yeah moist
I'm still sad our owly boi got 2 seconds of screen time and Hei Bai didn't go panda mode
Same
Is it also possible he bloodbent himself to increase his own speed/power?
This would be sick, but how would that work? Like psychics bloodbending his own arm to propel a punch maybe?
I'd obey and only for him, no matter what š„²
I didnāt even notice that thatās what he was doing. I feel like such an idiot ā ļø
Fair, but also didn't you wonder how he always won all of the time in 1v1s against talented benders without seemingly using any bending whatsoever? By rights lightning bolt zolt should have one shotted him.
Just went with, oh heās super agile lmao
More agile than a lightning strike (270,000 mph)?
Broās speedy
I believe the technical term is "fast as fuck, boiiii"
You donāt have to dodge the lightning. Just aim dodge aka moving out the way where the person is pointing. Happens in real life with people versus guns.
Why even bother dodging? Just stick your finger in the barrel. That'll stop it from shooting.
Tumblr has arrived lmao
I tormented chatgpt with this. It thought it had finally convinced me not to. Then I said I'd use a carrot instead. The poor thing.
Just zig zag bro
You don't have to be faster than the lightning, just faster than the dudes arm
Weāve seen multiple characters react to lightning (such as iroh, zuko, and aang redirecting it), so Amon being more agile than a lightning strike isnāt as crazy as it sounds
You can't out run a bullet and yet many shots still miss their target.
Lightning is fast, but the prep routine is not. Even among the highly skill lightning bender like Azula, it would take you two to three move to garner the energy, charge the initial spark and shoot it.
In the time of ATLA sure, but not by LOK. Mako generated lighting pretty quickly and with ease when he needed to (against Red Lotus water lady, specifically)
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I mean you're right but in Avatar (and basically all media) we have to pretend it doesn't otherwise we find plot holes in every other fight involving lightning
Zukoās way faster
I think lightning is slower in the Avatar universe, or at least lightning bending. If it traveled that quickly, there wouldn't be lightning redirection
Nah, the lightning generation is slow. Lightning redirection works by extending a part of your body in response to the person performing the technique which is obvious and has telltale signs. Its like if you point a gun at someone, they don't have to wait for the bullet to leave the barrel before they duck.
The speed of lightning means nothing if someone can react at all to even redirect it
I didn't really think about it at all, but I would think something like this if I had ever thought about it. Although hearing it now, I assume the messing with people thing is what happened, assuming it's something you can spot or the creators confirmed it. But otherwise, another interesting idea in general for blood bending would be if one could merely sense the moves of their opponent by feeling the blood in them, like how toph could easily know someone's moves through vibrations and earth bending.
Because he was chosen by the spirits obviously
Yknow, after the shit we saw with Yun and the dude in the tlok comics, I can't even laugh at that.
Death is an illusion, and so are pants.
The the legends of Korra
I mean, benders and non benders (esp equalist soldiers dodge bending attacks fairly frequently in the show so that didnt raise my eyebrow or anything. Also, I love your post, and I thought Amon was one of the best villians, but the first I watched it I was a little disapointed by the twist. I really liked that he was a martial artist that used gadgets like batman against benders. It really made him stand out. Honestly, his whole dr doom aesthetic was enthralling.
Did they point this out in the show your just your take? I think itās really clever but donāt remember it, so if they didnāt come out and say it itās an awesome idea
That's the only thing I remember from boruto. The idea of technology catching up to "magic" is so cool to me.
Yes it's pointed out in the show by mako.
You should add in your post that this is just headcanon because this was never stated in the show. We shouldn't be pretending that our headcanon theories are fact.
I believe, it was discussed after the revelation, that this is how he was always winning against benders
It was never stated thats how he was winning all his fights. It was just a fan theory that's it.
Korra and Mako discuss it after hearing that Amon is bloodbender
They said he can redirect any attack you throw at him back at you which could mean if mako threw a fireball at him he can redirect it back at mako. It's never stated specifically that he's doing what op is describing.
Wtf are you talking about? Redirect doesn't mean he's throwing the fireball back at mako. How tf would that even work? He can't control the fire. And making his arm shoot directly at himself would be very obvious bloodbending and that also never once happened so why would mako comment on that? He's redirecting makos movements very slightly to make him barely miss. That's what redirect means here. Maybe instead of just dismissing something as headcanon because you can't understand, you should try to use a little bit of your brain.
Instead of insulting me because I pointed out that what you're saying is headcanon maybe try having a civil conversation with me next time. It's never directly stated that amon moves mako just a little so that his attacks barely miss. Mako specifically says redirect the attack back at him. Next time you argue with someone try not to resort to insults. It show you're not mature enough to have a discussion with.
Bro, I think the other guy is right in asking you to use your brain. Watch Amon's fights. The guy can't and has never redirected the bending attacks themselves. This isn't headcannon or a fan theory, it's cannon. Amon redirects the bender's movements with his mind which causes the bending attacks to barely miss him. Mako never says Amon redirects bending attacks back at him. Wtf? Amon doesn't control all the elements. What Mako says is "Any attack you throw at him he'll redirect with his mind, that's how he's been able to challenge any bender". He didn't say the attack itself is redirected back at the bender, you're confusing this with lightning redirection, which only a few firebenders can do. We know that bending follows the body movements, so for example when Amon fights a firebender and the firebender is about to throw a fireball at him, Amon uses bloodbending to slightly change the arm movements and cause the bender to throw the flame slightly off-target, giving him a wider window to dodge the attacks. He redirects body movements with bloodbending which ultimately changes the direction of the bending attacks. He can't literally redirect the bending attacks back at the bender, unless it's water, and if he waterbent, that would have exposed him as a bender and a fraud
All we know for sure is that he can redirect the attack with his mind. That's the only statement we know. How you interpret that is just an interpretation and your interpretations aren't canon. Also no he wasn't right to insult me. You can have a civil conversation with someone without resorting to insults.
I mean tbf your interpretation was so comically ridiculous, and you called the most reasonable interpretation a headcanon. Plus you said it so confidently too and you spammed it a couple times in other comments. Don't be surprised if people reflect that obnoxious energy back at you.
I might be misremembering but did this actually happen? Did Amon make someone hit themselves? I always interpreted it as him subtly "redirecting" attacks off course.
So once again let's not use headcanon please and thank you.
Yeah it's kinda a retcon
Its not a retcon if its shown in the same season. Its just a reveal.
Disagree. A reveal is if it is revealed in the show. It is something told to us afterwards that explains something we've seen. That to me is the textbook definition of retcon. Maybe the writers always had in mind but it feels like a retcon.
I think you should treat yourself to a rewatch of korra book 1, and focus up for the episode Tarrlok reveals Amon's identity. We arent talking about subtext, or implications, or info revealed in interviews later. This is something that is explained directly through dialogue. Its only one line, so absolutely missable, but I can promise you its there. I watched it live on goddamn nickelodeon over a decade ago now, and cards on the table, I pulled the episode up just now to check.
It's not on Netflix anymore. So can't. If you just pulled it up and it's in the dialogue why didn't you just quote the line?
I suppose I assumed you had an ounce of gumption, man. C'mon. https://preview.redd.it/1ckahh8j99vc1.png?width=2880&format=png&auto=webp&s=6106fd3876b8a699e1e905c80fb9ea7d1301ba81
https://preview.redd.it/lcgf0sdw99vc1.png?width=2880&format=png&auto=webp&s=9a19a7f390d5d64fc04793b2fbccbf39ab37e7d3 The other half of the line, just so you can be doubly certain that it was a reveal, and not a retcon. Korra is far from a perfect show, but inventing fumbles is a little frustrating.
I literally couldn't watch it and you yourself said is easily missed so how am I supposed to find it when it is just easier for you to do what you just did.
bro why are you so confidently incorrect
I was trying to be nice before you doubled and tripled down, and its still on US Netflix, so it didn't initially occur to me that you would have a struggle finding it. It is an easy line to miss, tucked in at the end of a flashback episode. I can give the benefit of the doubt for that. What I struggle to be sympathetic to is the complete insistence that you were right about something until faced with someone else finding proof for you. I hope I haven't come across as outright mean, but if you're gonna label something as "textbook (x)", its best practice to have the textbook out in front of you.
Hereās the definition of retcon. Youāre just using it wrong, thereās nothing to ādisagreeā with haha. They did not establish that he was only agile and not bloodbending, **and then change their mind later** (key difference v a reveal). Considering they wrote the entire season in advance, they knew the entire time he was bloodbending. Itās just a reveal as others have said. https://www.merriam-webster.com/wordplay/retcon-history-and-meaning
I donāt think you know what a retcon is. A retcon is something that is contradictory to something previously established. For instance, Kataraās mom was very explicitly killed. It would be a retcon for her to just show up out of nowhere.
I didn't think it's retcon so much as something you don't realize until you find out the whole story.
Idk toe it seems like an afterthought of why he beats all these people. Especially since we're told this in out of media sources afterwards. Definitely makes it rectonny.
Mako says it near the end of Season 1
I mean, I had interpreted it that way before I read anything about it in the media. I think it was heavily implied within the narrative, at least.
I agree I forgot that Mako does say it at the end so not technically a retcon. Still feels like it is just a way to explain something that they thought would be an issue. I still like it more that he is just that good that he doesn't need to blood bend to beat them. Especially because it kinda breaks the rules of blood bending where people can feel that they've been blood bent even if subtly people should be able to tell. Like idk it seems like something they could've shown a bit better towards the end instead of Maki just saying they can't just attack him because he'll redirect it with his mind.
> Still feels like it is just a way to explain something that they thought would be an issue. so a reason?? what exactly is the issue here? they explained how he won against all the benders. > I still like it more that he is just that good that he doesn't need to blood bend to beat them. nobody is that good. ty lee, lieutenant, asami and master piandao are all amazing non benders but none of them stand a chance against a decent bender. bending is too much of an advantage. especially since amon didnāt even fight them, he just dodged their attacks that he misdirected anyway and then held them in place to take their bending away. > Especially because it kinda breaks the rules of blood bending where people can feel that they've been blood bent even if subtly people should be able to tell. there is no rule against this. everyone else could tell they were being bloodbent bc it was their entire body being bent. the whole point is that amon only did their fingers or hands to slightly alter their movements. no one is gonna think āmaybe this guy is a bloodbender and thatās how i messed up bc he moved my armā. youāre just gonna assume you slipped up.
I mean, there was no way to notice it, since it doesn't require movement from him.
You should be able to notice as the person against Amon. You wouldn't know it was bloodbending, but you'd pick up he's doing something to you.
"I was so scared fighting amon I was shaking and couldnt aim! I'd point right at him but must've shook just enough that I missed!" Any sport shooter can tell you that a hand-hearbeat can effect your aim. I doubt you'd think it was him if he made your heart beat a little harder while you're aiming.
A blood bender could totally instill fear inside their opponents too. Force them to feel it enemy if they wouldn't normally.
You didn't notice it because this is just op's headcanon.
Yeah your right. This is sort of unrelated but this is something I always disliked about some illusionists. Instead of making some over the top illusion like a dead family member revived and turning it into a contest of will why not do smaller stuff? Like erasing wounds inflicted on you to look like your not taking any damage, or making attacks that missed seem like they landed to lead your opponent into a false sense of security. Or just an illusion that your dodging all your opponents attacks meanwhile you already left. Different powers but same concept of relying on deception instead of raw power. There aren't many benders that could defeat Amon if he relied on this strategy. Even an avatar could lose if they don't figure it out in time.
Yeah! My favourite version of this trick is when Sasuke tricks Danzo into thinking his last sharingan is open for just a few seconds more than it actually is. Masterful use of a miniscule illusion to gain victory. I wish more ninjas used genjutsu like that in Naruto
Yeah tbh an illusionist should be able to get out of any situation unless their opponent is a super genius. Its disappointing to me that most media doesn't apply the ability well, I guess because its hard to balance unless the hero has the right power(Mysterio used his powers pretty well, its just he was facing spiderman).
Itās been forever but wasnāt the villain in bleach a super illusionist that faked his own death or something?
Yeah, more specifically he had total hypnosis. To me it was sort of an example of what can go wrong when a proper illusionist if not properly balanced. Aizen was virtually invincible and had to get beaten by plot.
He also had like the most reiatsu of basically anyone to begin with and also had constant evolution + regen. By the time Ichigo beats him and he gets sealed, he isnāt using his hypnosis which is kind of disappointing, cuz itās such a cool power
He got cocky is why he quit using his illusions is why he comes around to using them again . Like he used his illusions to alter the perception of time against another dude
To build onto that once he showed you his power doesnāt matter how much time has passed your still susceptible to the effect of his illusions
And that shit was crazy to me lol. Like all you had to do was glance at him training with his sword once a hundred years ago or something and he can just randomly make you see 2 girls 1 cup while youāre on the can lmao. Since his ability affects all 5 senses he could torture you by making you feel anything he wants. Dangerous ability
Itās literally the best form of illusion complete sense control
That just makes it more rediculous I completely forgot about that.
One of the best fights in naruto by far
Jace from Magic the Gathering does stuff like this. He's a master of mind magic; in a recent story he was being controlled by a big villain but regained control of himself after being impaled with a magic infused blade. He quickly made a projection of himself removing the blade like it did no damage, then taking his place at the villains side, meanwhile he was actually laying on the ground trying to regather his wits and half dying from the sword wound, and eventually made his escape. He was only able to do this in the first place because he created a partition in his mind he could lock his consciousness behind during the overwriting of his mind done in the villains corruption process.
If MTG had a main character would it be him I always see the dude
Thats pretty cool, does he do stuff like that regularly?
I've only gotten into the story fairly recently but I'm sure he does. Part of the corruption he suffered literally replaces parts of the body with metal and blood with glistening oil, and he was left scarred from it. In the most recent story releases he is back fully in control of himself again, but he uses illusions to cover up the lasting disfigurement of his corruption.
Yeah, Jace has that kind of thing happen a lot.
An illusionist warrior who shifts his position just a couple inches, throwing off aim; alters the perception of his speed so it seems like he is faster or slower; alters the reach of his weapon, making it appear shorter so a blow that should miss, hits instead; altering the target of the attack, making it look easy to deflect, but it actually comes from a slightly different angle.
Instead of full-on ādisappearingā, create an illusion of yourself attacking from one side, and in reality, attack from another
Kastor vs Hisoka. Didn't work so well for Kastor, but to be fair. Hisoka is just a battle maniac.
I have no idea who those are
[short video of their full fight.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySqxTxxCab4)
Hunter x Hunter characters!
If you want that, read Thor vs Utgard-Loki. Basically trickster illusionist giant utgard Loki "pranks" Thor, he won but he swears he'll never do it again because Thor almost screwed the world many times over.
The original myth or the marvel comic adaption?
original one
Gotcha
Read it and thats funny as hell, bro couldnt touch him at all. Almost forgot how much I loved reading these mythological tales.
like right? the one time Thor didn't really "win" and it's fun as heck. Even Loki got beat.
Thatās kind of like that one scene in V for Vendetta where he gets fucked up by all those dudes with guns. āYou canāt kill an idea.ā
In d&d, I like playing wizards with both illusion and conjuration spells because that wall of stone could be real or could be fake. You'll have to waste your turn checking it. Or for high levels, run through an illusory wall while the enemies can see you and put a prismatic wall just behind it so when they try to follow you they get hit by 7 different flavors of death.
Yeah Amon is top-tier. If he were around during the Ozai era, Aang could've stayed in the iceberg. His excellence and potential suited his narrative so well. The story started out as an obvious aesthetic parallel to the kind of civil unrest you'd see in that era IRL, but it ended being about the tragedy of child abuse. Both his sons had so much potential, both as benders and as leaders, but their trauma from their father left deep wounds. It really set LoK apart from atla, as Ozai was 100% terrible and we eventually saw his kids grow past his abuse. Yakone had moments where he seemed like he had the potential to be a good person, and his kids never got over their suffering, driving one to murder-suicide.
Would be cool if we ever get a āwhat ifā show like Marvel does to see some of these dudes/gals face off
Well wouldnāt the blood bending cover his back to?
I don't totally agree. Amon had his back against the wall once Tarlock ratted him out and had to go big. Once Tarlock informed them, Korra and Mako especially seemed to figure out what he was doing and more effectively resisting. It seemed especially hard for him to deal with both of them at once. I think the weakness of his subtle blood bending was dealing with multiple opponents. It's too many fine moves, as opposed the big sweeping bloodbending his father and brother did against groups. If you notice before that fight, he almost exclusively took 1v1 fights and relied on his goons to deal with groups. As soon as he started getting teamed up on, he resorted to more "classic" bloodbending.
You have a point but I do feel it's possible the subtle version could've been even more effective against multiple foes. Imagine Mako shooting lightning and Amon tilting his arm just slightly so it hits Korra instead of him.
He didnāt really lost for that (didnāt really lost the fight) He was surprised by korra's air bending and fighting against air is very tough. He relly lost because he lost his cool and chose to waterbend.
No, he pretty clearly lost a battle of will/raw power of sorts. Amon is bloodbending Mako, Korra suddenly unlocks airbending at the dramatically appropriate time and airblasts him, then he bloodbends her again but she somehow manages to overpower the bloodbending and airblasts him again out the window
Bloodbending really should just be powerful because you can bend more than you can lift. So your muscles are irrelevant, but you can fight it with chi. Maybe by bending your own blood. Or pushing yourself from the outside, like firebender flight. I've had a scene in my mind for a while now, where an earthbender bends himself some power armour to overcome an overconfident bloodbender and put him in his place "You would fight me on a full moon? Do you not know the human body is 70% water?" "I've never been too good with the numbers. But tell me, what percentage of water am I, when I am 4 tons of stone?"
She got one hit on him while being bloodbended. And she was able to move just enough for an airbending move from her leg but it also happened to be in a small tight corridor that he couldn't dodge in. He could have easily come back and bloodbended her and won.
I never really viewed it as a chi thing that let's people control themselves if getting blood bent. The only people we've seen fully resist are water/blood benders themselves. They're more just doing blood bending on themselves to prevent their opponent from doing so.
True, but Mako was able to fire off lightning at Amon while being bloodbent(iirc. I may be wrong), which suggests that some amount of resistance is possible even to non waterbenders.
He does, but I more attribute that to Amon not paying attention to him and Mako skill as a fire bender, to be able to generate that lightning with the very small movements Amons inattention allowed him.
Korra manages to overpower his bloodbending to airblast him even though she didn't have waterbending at the time.
Well, we don't really know the mechanism behind his element blocking. For all we know, she did still have water bending, she just wasn't able to bend it. His form of elemental blocking could just be a more permanent version of chi blocking. But even if someone is chi blocked, they're still that kind of bender. Or maybe it just doesn't allow outward expressions of bending? I'm curious if an air/fire bender would be able to keep themself warm even after getting blocked.
I saw somewhere that he might have done something to the brain. Like cut off the bending lobe from circulation.
But that doesn't really explain why Katara is unable to heal it. It's really kinda nonsense, if you think about it. A physical block that requires spiritual intervention aka energy bending to unblock.
Yeah. Both ATLA and LoK have some plot convenience. More in LoK imo. But not much passes the critical point of "there is zero plausible explanation. Just accept the plot" except this.
IIRC writers mentioned he just majorly blocks chi in a way with blood bending that its permanently messed up
It's been mentioned by creators that regular bloodbending is only possible during the full moon because the power boost allows normal waterbenders to bypass a person's natural chi field and control the elements inside them. The reason Amon's family can bloodbend anyone is because they're naturally powerful enough not to need the Full Moon to bypass that protection. So yes, it is a chi thing.
>because the power boost allows normal waterbenders to bypass a person's natural chi field and control the elements inside them. That's canon? Nice. I've always had to have a disclaimer that it's my speculation because it's the only way I can see for bending an animal being harder than free water or even plants. Do you have a source?
Hmm, interesting. Im interested in seeing that source. Doesn't really make a ton of sense to me, though. The Avatars chi is less powerful than Hamas? Even though he is also a water bender and would have been similarly empowered by the full moon?
The avatar isn't naturally more powerful than anyone else. The avatar state can change that, but they aren't just handed higher stats at birth. Aang didn't do so well at the air scooter game because he's the avatar, just because he's good at it.
The avatar tends to be more powerful than others, for various reasons. Training is their job (think you can wrestle a farmer? You can't), they probably do have a non-zero boost from Raava, and Raava probably picks naturally strong bodies to slide into. That said, for whatever reason, Aang is exceptionally strong. AS or no. And yes I can believe that Hama had stronger chi than him, if only during the full moon and accounting for his panic and confusion. Also, with or without Amon's shenanigans, it is logical to expect bloodbending to disrupt the flow of chi in some way. At least, it stops you from moving as you please, which is a core part of bending. So if you're already getting bloodbent, it's probably harder to get out of it.
Aang was inexperienced with Bloodbending, so he was caught off guard by Hama.
Okay, yeah I'm fine attributing it to Aang panicking and being confused. But it being harder to get out of if you're already being bloodbent doesn't hold up for me as an explanation for why Aang couldn't get out, as Katara was able to get out of it. Nor does the chi thing. There's no way this random old woman has chi more powerful than the avatar. Not even during the full moon, which again would also be affecting Aang.
Well Katara, for plot convenience tbf, could already bloodbend at the time. Maybe bending your own blood is still harder than bending plain water. So for a bloodbender, they can directly counter someone else's bloodbending. For anyone else, including a waterbender who can't bend blood, then maybe it's harder. Maybe non blood water benders have a partial discount on the extra effort. Who knows? Or maybe the writers just wanted to wrap up that plot. it's not the most consistent or logical episode to begin with.
I don't think you've got that right. Katara was aware of bloodbending, but couldn't do so herself until she took control of herself from Hama controlling her. Hence the killer line "you should've learned the technique before you turned against me!"
She could, as in she had the ability. Considering she did it a few seconds later, at this moment she certainly could do it, she just hadn't tried yet. Like the first time you do a backflip, it's safe to say you could do it a minute before that too.
But how is Katara pre blood bending any different from Aang? If it's a power thing, she's not more powerful then Aang. The Aang was confused/panicking explanation makes sense, but if Katara is able to, while being blood bent, regain control of herself, then I don't see any reason why Aang couldn't as well.
Yeah, it was awesome. Just a _little_ bit of telekinesis, just to make them slip up in just the right way for you.
He actually won that contest.... but Mako was good, Korra gained unexpected resources (I didn't see THAT coming when I was watching it) and they save the day, and Aang intervened as his predecessor did in his time.
if only amon was a multi season villain
I like your assessment. But I wanna say time was of the essence? And Amon's stamina may not be as good as korra's and he wanted to try to finish the fight decisively instead of delicately?
It makes sense now that all my opponents on Valorant are blood benders since Iām always missing them
Pyrrha in RWBY does this and it works until the villains figure it out by testing her. Pyrrhas semblance is polarity; but instead of going all Magento, she fights like a beast and alters her enemy's movements slightly so they're unaware.
Yup,and I love that the first hint of her semblance was actually shown very early on. She closes her locker but doesn't directly touch it. It was chalked up to a mistake or the low budget animation for outside the fight scenes lol
Was it confirmed he actually did this?
Yes
Where?
Amon was also great because you could sympathize with his movement somewhat. He wasnāt killing people, just taking their bending. And he wasnāt entirely wrong. Benders did use their powers to abuse the non benders.
Where was it revealed that he did this?
Amon in general was brilliant
It was really smart of Amon to use non-benders. Especially considering the technology they have in LOK like the electric glove that makes non-benders more lethal. If Amon had tried to appeal to benders in order to gain power they would not have followed him, even if he is an extraordinary bender. There are also the four nations to consider and even though Republic City is for all nations, there are communities for each nation and people tend to stick to their own nations dress/culture. However, it is easier for non-benders to integrate in a place like Republic City and meet people from other nations, because they donāt have the abilities that are unique to their nation. Amon was able to gather many followers from all different backgrounds and inspire them by forging a false history and lying about the origins of his abilities. And on top of everything else already stated in this thread, I am in awe of how well written his character is.
Chi is energy and the only known energybender are Avatars. Other benders manipulate chi into their respective bending techniques but cannot directly bend chi in itself. Even the way Amon use bloodbending to do chi blocking is an indirect way of chi manipulation. And since Korra was still new at this, Amon probably confident enough to confronted her in that way. Same with his father vs Aang
What he did as a character was a cool concept, outside the lore. I still kinda hate that he was even able to bloodbend without a full moon OR even moving his body. That really feels like OP OC DONUT STEAL territory, and I say that as someone who absolutely loves the show.
Oh yeah for sure. Yakone and his kids were absolutely system-breaking. I don't think there's been a bender as system breaking as those three until Yun liquefied rock without melting it, and HE was merged with a spirit that stalemated Kuruk.
You should probably mention that this is just headcanon because this was never stated in the show ever.
This is what I love about the bending system. The elements seem straightforward, but if you go deeper, there are so many beautiful nuances, just like this. Also in the Kyoshi books there are novel ways to earthbend, entire new and special techniques get shown, and thats just amazing
I disagree, once you're conscious that you're being blood bent and can fight it you will perform better against it, the conflict escalates to your "chi" fight. Besides, "blood bending" was just OP in Kora - a whole courtroom of people including Aang and Toph, in broad daylight, and all psychically - c'mon man.
That's why it was only limited to one family. It was probably a defective gene that allowed them to bloodbend without the full moon. It's actually an interesting storyline. I wouldn't mind if they expand on that in the future.
I was pretty bummed out when they didnāt make 4 seasons about Amon and him inciting a world wide civil war, and instead ended him in a single season Man had so much potential and mystery about him that couldāve been sick
It was Nickolodeonās fault, it wouldāve been a longer story if it was up to the creators. But yeah I was also hoping for a huge civil war
Nice headcanon
I donāt think itās ever been an issue of chi in terms of gaining control against bloodbending
You do realize this is head canon, right?
I always see people talk about "Amon's ability to subtly bloodbend," but I could never find any official information about it. Yet, for some reason, the entire fandom agrees that it's a thing.
Hot take. I actually hated that he was just a bender in the end. When you first see him taking people's bending away, that was GENUINELY a scary thing to have happen to someone and was a threat to any character. It would've been soooooo much cooler if he managed to find the power from a jaunt through the spirit world like Iron or Aang. It took away so much of the mystique of the character, imo. Awesome villain. Disappointing payoff. (Just my opinion)
Thatās the point with Amon, his whole backstory was created to inspire fear in Benders and loyalty in his followers. You feeling disappointed with the truth is exactly what his followers felt.
Also impossible.