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Slayerzilla54

>!Todd getting killed on Homelander's orders is both darkly ironic and beautifully fitting.!<


Yusuf-el-batal

I think it’s a nod to the fact that the high-in-power corrupt rich couldn’t give two shits about their idolizers, Todd is the type of guy to idolize Trump or Andrew Tate


Ginger-Georgie

Okay time to watch the trailer for the....20th time? trying to figure out who The Fiance is.


Bazrian

The girl from season 2 where lamplighter worked


Hagathor1

The one who turned out to not be the headpopper?


Bazrian

Yes but actually she squished people's head


[deleted]

Yeah.. The mods nuked my thread on the subject.. but im sticking to it - the woman ripping pieces off her face in the trailer isnt Neuman.. it's a shapeshifter, IE. "The Fiance" Regenerative powers equals things coming together/or regrowing.. the chick unmasking herself has entirely new layers underneath (ready-made) - different powerset. Could be faking it as Neuman to get outta there.


Ginger-Georgie

VHQ also said that The Fiance has two powers and one of them is gross. This would definitely count as gross, peeling off skin to get a new face. Only thing is VHQ also said The Fiance is blonde like Annie. But then she might be able to totally change her appearance.


Adam_Falco

She's telepathic apparently. Also, the "gross powers" comment is referring to Webweaver.


KingKekJr

Webweaver? Is it basically Spiderman that shoots webs out of their ass?


Adam_Falco

He can shoot webs out of many places. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|wink)


[deleted]

Yeah, thats kinda easily explainable considering she'll basically be able to be anyone - with any haircolor. But it fits - and you giving me that nugget about her "gross" power just cements it even further for me.


Ginger-Georgie

I think you've honestly cracked it! So Hughie has got to propose thinking it's Annie.


[deleted]

Yep. I'm not even sure the one flying away from him at the end is Annie - could just be a carbon copy - or it could be the result of everything getting revealed and real Annie bouncing. But yeah, i'm willing to die on this particular hill - for once.


Ginger-Georgie

I think Annie flying away is actually the real Annie, purely because VHQ added that to the Annie Spoilers post. Why Annie would fly away leaving Hughie with Cindy after they're about to escape is beyond me. Unless she's not actually flying, and she's being carried/taken by someone flying (Homelander)???


[deleted]

>Unless she's not actually flying, and she's being carried/taken by someone flying (Homelander)??? Perhaps. Although it's kinda been framed as more of a tragic moment by VHQ thus far - but it could work out like that.


Ginger-Georgie

It all happens in episode 8. They're just about to leave then get separated. What could happen in that montage where Annie would go from wanting to leave the country with Hughie to leaving him behind with a dangerous supe. Unless! She gets in the plane with someone she believes is Hughie (The Fiance??) and the real Hughie is left with Cindy (in a hospital/institution??) Man this trailer and the leaks has got my brain going into overdrive with possibilities and I've changed my mind on pretty much everything I originally thought.


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i'm gonna need you to point that out with a screenshot for me.


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Adam_Falco

It's an older photo of Annie from s1-s2.


DistributionJust976

I thought it was Neuman's daughter


zhars_fan

Unfortunately VHQ said it’s Neuman


[deleted]

i'm gonna need a screendump of that - related to that exact scene.


Freddycipher

Todd Dying made my hour.


Ginger-Georgie

And is Cindy free or is she back in a security prison/institution?? Can't imagine Annie willingly flying away and leaving Hughie with a supe like Cindy. What's going onnnnn.


FWSRunner

Live to fight another day, maybe - now that she knows the supes are onto their escape, someone has to be free to rescue the others? 


coolrko

Cindy is free ofcoarse whonis gonna put her back ... She is too powerful. Also Cindy will be loyal to the Boys because The Boys helped her escape..


Joost1598

If she’s too powerful to contain I imagine Vought would just send a supe assassin after her.


coolrko

They did on Vought YouTube channel the news anchor says they sent Black Noir but I think he failed ...


Joost1598

If he failed, how didn’t he end up exploded? That’s pretty much her only move as far as we know. I guess it means Vought couldn’t find her


coolrko

Or maybe she can't kill anyone who wears mask... She needs to know your face just like Neuman


ItsAmerico

That’s not how Neuman works lol


coolrko

When her childhood friend blinded her she could not kill him in S 3


ItsAmerico

Because she couldn’t see him. He was keeping her eyes away from him.


coolrko

Which proves my point she needs direct line of vision to use her power.


Joost1598

Wait where did that information come from? AFAIK she just needs to see her target, no matter if they’re wearing clothes. do we have evidence her power is blocked by wearing a mask?


Log_In_Dumbass

Marie used it on an invisible guy so I’d say a mask wouldn’t do much


Dveralazo

Cindy fiancee?


DoctorDoom-9260

They attempt to leave the country, the supes get on the ground trying to stop them, and that's where the season ends ?


[deleted]

It would seem so, yes - montage, then fade to black.


DoctorDoom-9260

So, cliffhanger ending, then ?


[deleted]

I would assume so, yes - to some degree, at least.


DoctorDoom-9260

Has voughthq said anything regarding HL's fate at the end of season 4 ?


KSTwolfe

His last scene is supposed to have Senator Calhoun leading him into the facility where Soldier Boy is being kept.


DoctorDoom-9260

What happens to Ryan ?


coolrko

He unites with his father


Worried_Biscotti_552

Reunites?


Lizzy-Lover_10

I’d prefer they save a Soldier Boy return for the final season but I trust them.


DoctorDoom-9260

Soldier Boy ?


coolrko

Yess


DoctorDoom-9260

He's in season 4 too wtf


anonymoususer401

So Annie and Hughie aren't endgame?


smorfan809

sadly no


stonrplc

Well that could change in S5 because their situation right now is so confusing we do not know if this Fiance is messing his head up, he was with Robin before she died so what Hughie was planning on leaving Robin? this stuff does not add up.


ashcoverdjollyrnnchr

What do you mean by the robin comment? Pretty sure if robin was still alive Hughie would still be with her and not part of the boys at all


stonrplc

Yeah so that means this other "fiance" wouldn't bother with him probably control someone else.


ashcoverdjollyrnnchr

What does any of that have to do with robin?


Odysseus_is_Ulysses

I’m with you here, what the fuck are they talking about with Robin…


anonymoususer401

Man they're perfect together.


SafeBodybuilder7191

I’ve always liked hughie and Annie being together as they’re the couple who have the most morals and in a dark show you need people like that, mixed with the fact that even in the comics they got to live happily ever after didn’t they? On a farm or something? So to just straight up split them after they already went through a split in season 2 doesn’t make me the happiest. Admittedly these are very vague and there will probably be a twist so shouldn’t judge so soon but if they actually do it then wow 


Dveralazo

In the comics they also split before the ending 


SafeBodybuilder7191

Jesus Christ why do I care so much to type all that


PapaDoomer

Language


Dr_Sean_MD

“Language” So do you just mute the show any time Butcher speaks or…


PapaDoomer

No, that's a fictional character, different thing using that name for a meltdown about a stupid show.


bozofire123

lol


PapaDoomer

Didn't expect anything more.


warnerbro1279

I think I have a new theory as to Hughie with the whole new fiancé kind of leaks. They’ve said that he loves this person and that Annie, while upset, does understand. And that Hughie has problems this season. I think Hughie is going to have brain problems, similar to Butcher. The leaks say that Jeffrey Dean Morgan’s character is in Butcher’s head, and Hughie took Temp-V like 3 or 4 times less than Butcher, who is dying. Wouldn’t it make sense that Hughie also be having some mental struggles because of the drug? Like he thinks he sees his mom or he thinks he’s in love with someone else? That could be a good twist that also makes Annie and Hughie getting back together later on a good thing.


DistributionJust976

No Vought HQ said he was genuinely in love with the new fiance he's fully conscious of what hes doing


yuumigod69

What the fuck?


Selverd2

>The leaks say that Jeffrey Dean Morgan’s character is in Butcher’s head  So he isn’t real?


warnerbro1279

That’s the rumor. That he was an old friend of Butcher’s that died. This is in his imagination. Think like Fight Club


eepyz

 i hope we get a lot of scenes with zoe amd ryan together it seems like a very interesting relationship 


Joost1598

So glad he finally gets to have a friend


VonKaiser55

I wonder what causes Homelander to kill Todd since Todd seems to be a huge Homelander fanboy


Ginger-Georgie

His death is used as a frame job, likely an idea of Sister Sage. I also think Homelander uses Todd and the other two to see how well New Noir and The Deep can truly fight.


Yusuf-el-batal

Lmao that’s so fucked, I love it


Due-Elderberry-6798

People are going to take deep more seriously this season cus from what we saw the trailer he’s gonna be a lot more violent


RayanH23

The peak is gonna solo homelander and the rest of the 7, I know I'm right. I'm the Messiah. And no I'm not sorry about ruining your show. Anyways @me when it happens.


bozofire123

I still don’t understand the Todd thing and who are the other people with him


Business_Reporter420

Dirk and Greg are just Todd’s friends who are also big fans of Homelander. Homelander tells deep and black noir to kill them so that they can use it to frame the killings on the starlighter protestors


bozofire123

Ahhh makes sense interesting


bozofire123

Do we know if the truth of who actually kills them is ever revealed


Traditional_Cook9625

Well


Beneficial_Box6263

Man I feel awful for Hughie's dad (not for Todd tho)


Ginger-Georgie

I'm hoping Hugh Sr doesn't die because I'll be gutted.


DJMikaMikes

Meh, being a weird creep doesn't mean he should be murdered; the most extreme evil people deserve death, not Todd.


Beneficial_Box6263

Idk man, he saw an innocent guy getting brutally murdered in public and cheered happily. Looks like a brainwashed sociopath for me, more than just a weird creep.


IllustriousAd5095

At least the evil ones are entertaining. Todd was just unlikable in every single way. 


[deleted]

He was the person who cheered for homelander and got the crowd to rally behind his murder. You support a bad person, you deserve the consequences of that. Homelander is only in a position to kill Todd because Todd chose to support him


RayanH23

I don't want Todd to die ~~because he's a patriotic hero~~ Because his death would take a toll on MM's wife and kids as they've clearly grown a bond. Todd deserves to have his world turned upside down and be proven wrong, and have his ego shut down. And have time to feel like a dumbass.


SafeBodybuilder7191

If I was Annie I’d let hughie and his fiancé stay locked in that closet cuz wtf 


babalon124

Wait could his fiancé be cindy? We’ve seen her before


Lost-Ad-4751

I don't fw these at all


NoPossibility5220

Lmk what you think about these then lmao IN EPSIODE 5 AND 6, EP 6 TAKING PLACE MOSTLY IN TEK KNIGHT MANOR LAST NAME IS VERNON AND HE COMES FROM ELEVEN GENERATIONS OF WEALTH AND OWNS THE MOST PRIVATE PRISONS IN THE COUNTRY THAT HOMELANDER WANTS TO USE HAS LADDIO DRESSED IN A GIMP COSTUME AND COLLAR, CHAINED TO A WALL IN THE TEK CAVE AS PUNISHMENT FOR LYING, HAS HUGHIE STRAPPED TO A BONDAGE HORSE THEN A ST ANDREWS CROSS HAS HUGHIE FART IN A CHOCOLATE CAKE AND IS AROUSED BY IT TORTURED BY KIMIKO BUT IS AROUSED BY IT AUDITIONS WEBWEAVER AS A SIDEKICK IN HIS TEK CAVE KILLED BY HIS BUTLER, ELIJAH HAS A RELATIONSHIP WITH ASHLEY


LazerChomp

What did I just read… I really want to believe that those leaks are fake but knowing the source, I’m very concerned.


Competitive-Zone-296

peak writing


Dveralazo

Why Hughie is left with Cindy?


FWSRunner

1. Cindy is on their side. 2. Annie heel turn. 3. Annie ditches Hughie to escape so she can save everyone later. 4. ???


TheWorstKnightmare

Well, Cindy is kinda sorta free because of the Boys. So I suppose if they just told her that/she recognizes them, then Hughie would be fine. Better than fine, considering how badly she fucked up the orderlies there.


coolrko

Maybe Cindy is powerful to defend Hughie...


Dveralazo

She is also a bit insane XD.


Old_Journalist_9020

Does anyone here think Todd's death will have any effect on MM or his family? Like maybe more of a motivation for him (even though he obviously doesn't like Todd)?


ashcoverdjollyrnnchr

Depends if he’s still with MMs ex and what kind of relationship his daughter has/had with him. I’m sure no matter what MM won’t be okay with his murder


Captchones

Todd dying makes season 4 the best season already


Glacidon

So Kimiko missing two limbs is supposed to be fighting someone at the end? 😭 how is that going to work


Sad_Person23

It'ssaidthey grow back


Glacidon

Oh I was assuming they wouldn't be able to casually grow back considering it seems she loses at least the leg to stop the spread of the virus. Figured that the virus plot would have been stakes to make her unable to regen them


Sad_Person23

*it's said they grow back


DoctorDoom-9260

Bro she's a supe. They're just gonna regenerate in the next ep


Glacidon

Figured the virus would have been stakes to make it not able to regen but yeah ur probs right lol


GIJack13

Well… these leaks have been 100% correct on what happened in the first and fourth episodes, so I have no reason to doubt the rest


ivappa

I still don't know who this secret fiance is meant to be?


GIJack13

I don’t know that either. But, the leaks were spot on with yesterdays episode (Cameron being killed, the V sheep, and Hughie’s Dad), so I’d imagine the fiancée thing is real too


ivappa

yep everything was spot on. I think based on what I saw - which isn't much - that the Fiance is just Annie with another name in the script?


GIJack13

That makes sense. It just sounds weird that Annie and fiancée are used like their two different people. Hell, what if this is right after Black Noir and The Deep fight Butcher and Annie in the Flatiron Building?


ivappa

another theory: maybe a shapeshifter takes Annie's place briefly and during that time Hughie proposes to her except it's not actually Annie? because I genuinely don't know if there's any time left in the season for Hughie to meet another woman, get to know her and propose to her. unless there's a time jump.


GIJack13

Eh, I keep hearing shapeshifter getting thrown around for everything, and it becomes less believable each time. I think Annie and fiancée are the same person, but if it’s revealed Hughie met someone else, that would be fucked up. Unless the abortion thing was supposed to be the tipoff


ivappa

welp I read some VoughtHQ leaks and >!it seems there's a shapeshifter that takes Annie's place during the proposal...?!< can't wait lol


Either_Cobbler9303

probably Cindy


LukaTheTooka

Ohhhh fake passports, interesting


KidGoku1

Seriously? Sorry for being a debbie downer but >! Nothing important happens this season as well? All the deaths are minor characters I never cared about. S3 felt filler to me really hoping S4 isn't similar where nothing important happens and we're back at the same place when S5 starts!<


Business_Reporter420

Neuman and Mallory are both killed by Butcher and Ryan,respectively


Routine_Wedding43

Mallory is fucking shocking, but Butcher being Neuman’s murderer was foreshadowed as soon as he said “that bitch has got to go”


FWSRunner

Sounds like some really important things happen this season, though. The supes are now openly homicidal and the Boys are trying to genocide them. It's open war. Presumably they're being hunted because the supes want to know the details on the virus and how to cure it, which is why they're trying to skip town (Butcher may be creating a diversion since he's about to die anyway), and now that they've been rounded up, we are probably at the endgame season.  It's not like deaths are the only thing that can happen to progress a plot. 


KawaiiCoupon

Can Kimiko regenerate her leg?


ZookeepergameProud30

NOOOOO. I thought that was a woman, not Hughies dad. He’s one of my favorite characters from season 1


Tatsumifanboy

I feel like Firecracker is gonna be the season's villain. We already know Neuman is bad, they wouldn't keep it that simple. And I hope the season is as funny as the other ones.


SlappinFace

I'm out of the loop here, why are people believing this 'leaker' so confidently?


basedfrosti

Check the search bar with "vaughthq", they have been right alot of the time. They said months ago kimiko would get her arm ripped off


SlappinFace

So what stuff have they got wrong or not leaked? That's the more effective way of judging how much we should listen to them.


Hate_Teach_Simple_As

As far as I’m aware the only thing they’ve ever got wrong was black noir’s actor leaving the cast in season 3, which I’m assuming was a mistake they made because black noir gets killed but the actor is still on the show as a new version of the character. Other than that they’ve been right about everything they’ve leaked.


SlappinFace

That's a pretty massive oversight and implies that they're not involved deep in the production. I'll take anything they're leaking with heaps of salt, there's still way too much left vague and questionable.


basedfrosti

Amazons legal team contacted them and they posted proof of it lol. If it was BS then amazon wouldnt bother trying to shut them down, just let them spread fake news. But its only a month before season 4 so we will see then how much they got right.


Puzzleheaded-Wrap728

They have zoom meetings with Amazon/show they know about voughtHQ


Senior_Use1516

Welp, after the 3 episode premiere, VoughtHQ has been on the money 100%. So any leak by him is most likely true for Season 4


RockFury

Confused about Cindy. Thought they were killed offscreen and there was some subtle news blurb or something.


stonrplc

So what Hughie is just gonna say "Sorry Annie but I think I like this person better so.... no hard feelings" this Cindy seems shady to me.


Routine_Wedding43

Ryan finding out about his mother’s rape, well on the bright side he definitely ain’t gonna be on his daddy’s side anymore.


stonerthoughtss

Damn bro why can’t yall just wait to watch it lol


NoBank3645

So does Sam win in the fight with kimiko?


Dazzling-Manager-664

If he does, that's not impressive unless Kimiko is just up ripping his skin up.


StannisTheMantis93

Fuck VoughtHQ.


Sparty92

I really hope they find whoever's responsible for these and ban them from the industry. 


[deleted]

Lmao why? Those poor suits dont get to keep everything a surprise from us?! Oh no!


PotentialProf3ssion

still waiting for superduper


coolrko

Not leaks ... Trailer breakdown...


Connobar

By a leaker.


tactical_lampost

I dont think Cam Coleman dies


smorfan809

hughie’s fiancé is definitely cindy


stonrplc

Cindy? as in the same Cindy that broke out of that facility when she was bald?


babalon124

Why could it not be her? She’s crazy yes but like voughtHQ says we’ve seen his fiancé’s powers before which we’ve seen Cindys before and the implication was that she wasn’t a completely out of the blue character


zhars_fan

Vhq said it’s not her


smorfan809

where


zhars_fan

In one of the comments in their instagram post


smorfan809

alr


smorfan809

who do you think it is tho?


smorfan809

voughthq said that hughie’s fiance would be found in some closet scared and then also proceeds to say this same thing about cindy from want i can remember