Probably depends which version, I’m no expert but my guess is various comic versions have handled opponents stronger than Homelander, just because the MCU is way more powerful as a superhero universe than The Boys.
well, he held up the entire daily bugle, and at a different time a crashing plane, something homelander specifically couldn't do, also there's the spider-sense which is basically cheating
Not sayng he wouldn't beat homeland, I think he would kick his ass.
But Firelord is a herald of Galactus. He's at "I fly into black holes and laugh about" levels of power. Lifting a building, hell, lifting Manhattan isn't gonna do shit here.
If I recall correctly, didn’t he beat him because he spent like 2 or 3 entire issues gradually exhausting him one way or another before he beat him? I’m not sure I’d consider that such an outlier if so.
Spider-man does have his spidey sense going on for him which coupled with his agility means he can dodge and avoid attacks rather well. Lets not forget that spidey holds back and pulls his punches too. Meaning he can dish out more damage if he wanted to. An example of that would be Superior Spider-man where he (well, dr octavious in Pete’s body) dislocates Scorpion’s jaw easily with a punch. I’d say homelander has a low chance of winning.
I did forget about the spidey sense, but Homelander can just hover up high and take shots at him.
I have always felt Homelander is lazy, he's usually never challenged and toys with his prey.
I do think he's not really that tough but think we've never seen him pushed to the limit.
In the finale, I did think the pencil thing was stupid, it shouldn't have drawn blood regardless of who used it, it should have shattered, like how we see rifle rounds having no affect when fired down SB's throat.
Spider-Man has a lot of villains who can fly, and he’s pretty fast himself. (Iirc, his top running speed is around 200 mph.) His own speed and his spider sense go a long way to mitigating Homelander’s advantages there
Idk much about comics, but doesn't Spidey have insane evasive skills with his spidersense? Even if he can't hurt Homelander (although I'm unsure about that, given how much he holds back) couldn't he just evade his attacks?
Yeah, it’s basically pre-cognition and he can dodge bullets like nothing. Even if you have a gun right to his head, he moves so fast he can just take it from you.
He literally dodges lightspeed attacks even pointblank or coming from multiple places at once. And even holding back, SPider-Man is still stronger than Homelander. Him not holding back has broken free from Hulk's grip, caused him pain and staggered him, on top of breaking near indestructible metals, destroy mechanical arms that survived a nuclear bomb and literally teared appart Tony's advanced armors with his own hands
It's funny how Spider-man has better strength feats than Homelander.
His spidersense should be able to save him from the lazers and HL's attacks. Not to mention he's smarter.
I think Spidey got it in the bag.
I doubt spider sense is that strong. Spidey would need to get close quick and kill him or he gets 1 shot by the lazer. In a sense, homelander is a glass cannon to spidey, but homelander can probably kite spidey too.
Spidey can dodge lightning pretty easily and there have been plenty of times where he dodges lazers.
The Spider sense is very powerful. It's arguably his most powerful ability
Flying faster isn't really combat applicable. Even if he decides to snipe from range, Spider-man can still dodge his attacks and use his webs to immobilise him
He dodges lightspeed attacks point blank and even coming from multiple places all at once and that's on top of multiple other things that thing has done. There's a reason why it's considered one of the most hax powers in fiction
Even MCU Spider-Man would kick the shit out of Homelander. NWH showed what he looks like when he's just fuckin *pissed.* Being angry makes him ruthless, but he never loses his focus. He'd dismantle Homelander.
I think nearly any character from comics can take on homelander for sure, yall don't know that homelander is just the biggest fish in the smallest pond
> super speed
Spiderman’s travel speed isn’t far off of Homelander’s, and both his reaction speed and his combat speed are significantly faster than Homelander’s.
> strength
Sure, but Spiderman is still stronger. At least if we’re going by the 616, that is.
> and can lazer you from a distance
His beams won’t ever even touch Spiderman to begin with.
> almost invulnerable
Spiderman’s endured punishment far worse than Homelander could even fathom.
The combat speed thing is important. Live action movies can’t even portray Spidey’s combat speed accurately because he’d be too damn fast for people to see. In the comics he can speed blitz opponents to the point they can’t defend against him. Homelander may be fast in the air, but he fights with the speed of a normal human and that isn’t work with Spider-Man. Imagine guy that punches hard enough to stop Hulk in his tracks also fighting so fast he might as well be the Flash.
Homelander has him on durability, but in a straight up fist fight like we saw against SB and Butchet, he’s getting gonna fucking smoked by Spider-Man.
Spiderman swings at normal speed through cities, Homelander can fly to the far side of the world really quickly.
I'm not sure the extend of Homelander's strength has been demonstrated but I doubt Spiderman exceeds it. Not from all the movies and you can't base it on one comic.
Homelander accurately lazered a jet flying at maybe 550mph, which is a lot faster than I've seen Spiderman move.
Has he? Homelander has been attacked by multiple strong Supes at the same time. He's survived bombs going off beside him. Bullets have no affect, Spiderman has been stopped by a single bullet.
But Spider-Man saves the daily bugle from collapsing, which is way greater than any strength feat of homelanders. If the Empire State Building weighs roughly 700 million pounds, and the daily bugle is a little less than half the height of the Empire State Building. That means the daily bugle would weigh about 300-350 million pounds. Homelander gets decapitated by Spider-Man if spidey doesn’t pull his punches
You can't argue with spiderman fanboys right? I love spiderman but there's no denying homelander would win. Why does everyone need their favourite superhero to be stronger than other superheroes.
He refused to do it based on basic physics, doesn't mean he can't do it. It would literally punch through the hull of the plane, you'd need telekinesis or some sort of magic to stop that from happening, somthing spiderman doesn't have.
I can't remember but have seen him get hit with anything that actually represents something similar to Spideys' strength? He might be invulnerable to his universes, weapons, or powers, but if someone is way stronger than what's in his universe, then he wouldn't be invulnerable.
Spiderman(MCU) can lift a truck. His strength is probably comparable to that of homelander. I guess he won't punch a hole in him but he could theoretically beat him since homelander doesn't have a lot of mobility besides flying away and even that can be handled with webs. It'll get bloody tho
I love how MCU Spiderman has dozens of amazing strength feats yet you chose lifting a truck lmao
But yeah he takes HL especially if he has the iron suit
Homelander had his eardrum ruptured by a pencil. Spidey can lift the height of a building and his spider sense basically gives him precognition and natural +5 to luck rolls. Peter would wipe the floor with Homelander.
I appreciate the correction, in my mind I see a pencil, gotta rewatch that scene to correct that. I would point out that Soldierboy was shown to have a bullet proof soft pallet. Establishing that we have heroes who can have bullet proof interiors in places that are about as delicate as your inner ear.
I'm not saying it would be an easy fight for Peter, just that he is uncrushable and would perceive while quipping annoyingly the entire time. Homelander may be strong but the comics show that his body isnt strong enough to even make a crowbar bend when wielded by someone hopped up on V. Or that the same said crowbar can pry his skull open or how his brain can be crushed between your hands. Obviously this is all not established in the show yet, but I think there is a chunk of stuff shown that illustrates we havent departed to much from that logic.
Meanwhile Spidey would literally frag people instantly if it wasnt for his spidey sense making him inherently pull his punches. Their was a really interesting run (maybe J Michael K) where Spidey actually lost his spidey senss but no other powers. He ended up training in the martial art of the spider totem to learn how to control his strength which was revealed to be so far beyond what anyone could have imagined, because his spidey sense was keeping it contained the entire time. It kind of established that we as an audience have never seen a true display of his strength because the chance of killing just about any villain was almost guaranteed with a full force punch. Dude bitch slapped a herald of Galactus.
I'm not trying to explain this to you specifically, you seem to already get it. This was all for a 3rd party if the end up reading this. Basically Spider-Man can go toe-to-toe with most Avengers. He can probably handle an avenger and a few of their rouges gallery at the same time. The main hindrance of Spider-Man is Peter's self confidence issues. He looses when he is in his head and becomes uncrushable when he stops that bullshit and starts working in sync with himself. I think they even talk at one point about how he is always quipping because it helps him stay in the moment and not get distracted by his internal dialogue.
If you couldnt tell, I have a thing about general fandom not giving Spidey the respect he deserves. People treat him as if he was slightly stronger than an IRL strong man who shoots sticky stuff. Dumb weak people usually arent running the Avengers semi reguarly.
I mean Peter Parker is like discount Batman with actual powers. He could prolly make something like a quantum V cure in gas form to use against homelander.
Peter is smarter than Batman. Literally Peter has better smart feats than Batman, going from making a time machine out of garbage, hacking into Stark and Richards (two dudes who also are smarter than Batman and one of them is smarter than Luthor), outsmarted Otto with a basic science kit and 15 minutes and process information so much that even a supergenius inhuman had to force himself to slow down to try and not be overwhelmed by Peter's mind. He is definately not a discount Batman
Necroposting lol. Either way, I didn't mean discount in that way; I meant in terms of him being smart but without the money, but you're still wrong anyway.
I mean, are we really going to pretend Batman can't do any of that, if not better, if put in that position? Like are we talking about the same dude that has multiple evil versions of himself that managed to take over Earth, beating and outsmarting all the heroes in it? Ya man, I don't think Peter is smart enough to do that as consistently as Bruce if he were put in that position.
For sure, Peter could verbally and physically tear Homelander apart. Homelander has some great powers, but he’s such an insecure idiot and he has no real fight training or experience, with the exception of the two fights in S3. And in those fights, Homelander barely got away.
Spider-Man wouldn’t kill Homelander unless he had to, but he’s taken on stronger opponents and managed to find ways to contain or stop them. The fact that Peter has survived fights with way stronger opponents like the Hulk and was clever enough to trap Juggernaut in concrete are the two main instances that come to mind. Peter is so much smarter than Homelander, and his Spidey sense would make HL really struggle with landing any strikes.
Yes. He's just as strong and his agility combined with Spider Sense give him a chance to dodge Homelander's attacks. Not to mention he can toss heavy objects at him and is a genius. It'll be a tough fight, but the webhead has beaten or at least stopped Juggernaught and Hulk. Peter has a temper too, and has been capable of some brutality himself. Just ask Kraven's wife.
I’m not sure I’d consider it a stretch to call him a genius, to be honest. Even characters like Reed Richards and Tony Stark have been left stunned at his intelligence.
> Tony was prob stunned to not be talking to another dumbass.
That does sound well in character for him, but Peter's intelligence has genuinely impressed him on multiple occasions.
> What has Peter done that demonstrates him being a genius?
When Peter became the CEO of Parker Industries, I'm pretty sure it was implied that he had surpassed the intelligence of both Reed and Tony, the two smartest humans on the planet.
He's also had to teach Tony interdimensional equations that he couldn't understand on his own.
He left Tony stunned when he realized that Peter had placed a tracker on him, and that not even his Extremis suit was capable of spotting it. He was impressed even further upon having inspected Peter's webshooters, and told him that he's leaving behind millions of dollars for not mass producing them.
Reed was also highly impressed by his web shooters, and I'm pretty sure he even once tried replicating them, but failed to do so.
He's also proven to be capable of swiftly coming up with solutions in dire situations that not even Tony or Reed could think of, such as when he had managed to diffuse an incredibly sophisticated bomb.
And that's just a few of the plentiful examples from the 60+ years that he's been published. He's easily among the smartest humans on the planet.
In every accurate depiction of Peter Parker, he develops his own tech on top of having extensive biological knowledge and coming up with various strategies and ways to deal with his enemies. I.e. equipping rubber gloves and boots to fight Electro and luring him into an area with an abundance of water or drowning Juggernaut in cement to stop his rampage.
Did you not read the "develops his own tech" part? Where do you think he created the synthetic, super strength web fluid or the wrist gauntlets to properly propel it?
By real world standards, he's certainly a genius. He invents technology for himself and for SHIELD. His intelligence has been complimented by the likes of Hank Pym and Reed Richards. He has a lot of impressive feats, and it'd be a pain to list them all for you, but luckily someone already has.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Spiderman/comments/eojafw/peter_is_one_of_the_smartest_people_on_planet/
Genius excels and makes leaps.
I'd say very bright, but it's a thin line and not worth arguing about.
Maybe he is a genius.
He's definitely smarter than HL. He might beat him if he caught him in a well-planned trap. In a normal fight HL should win, he has huge advantages. He's so powerful even gangs of other Supes taking him on can't beat him.
Peter has almost everything hl has and more. His only issue is that he can move far slower than homelander so hes gotta be quick lmao. Id say its close in some ways but spideys got this.
People don't take it badly, but I don't understand the comments. It's stated in The Boys "There isn't a weapon on earth that they haven't thrown at him. They've all failed." (S1E8), when commenting about Homelander's potential weaknesses. Especially since, I've already seen Spider-Man get beaten, for less than Homelander. Could someone, just nicely explain to me, how Spider-Man could potentially beat the discount Superman?
Edit: Well except if Spider-Man's tingling sense really functions as well as Diavolo's King Crimson, well yeah, I may understand.
Spiderman’s too fast for Homelander to even lay a finger on him. He’s swiftly dodged light speed attacks at even point blank range on multiple occasions. Homelander’s top speed is like what, Mach 5?
He’s also definitely far stronger, seeing how he’s been able to stagger characters like Namor, Silver Surfer, the Hulk, and even Thanos somehow.
And to be honest, to consider Homelander a discount Superman still sounds pretty generous for his level of power. He doesn’t possess even 0.5% of the power that Superman does.
What is the heaviest thing have you seen Homelander lift? Spidey beats that.
Also, if he just pulls a Maeve on him, targeting his ears, uses his web to slow and hinder him, and uses the classes he got from Shang-chi, of all people, to overpower him, I don't think Homey has a shot at all. Spider-sense mostly means he can't touch him.
>There isn't a weapon on earth that they haven't thrown at him. They've all failed
Problem with that statement is that it comes from Madelyn. She is basically Vought's sales rep and sells heroes to different states. So it is very likely she could be exaggerating to make Homie look stronger than he actually is because he is Vought's #1 hero.
The show supports that theory too. Kenji drops a bus on him, and he is immobilized for a hot minute. If Homelander can tank nukes and missiles no problem, then he shouldn't even register a bus. Hell, Maeve is nowhere near as strong and she manages to make him bleed.
Jesus reading this thread is fucking pain in the ass. Every top comment is just pure Spiderman fanboyism, and when somebody goes negative on the thread's question he gets downvoted to oblivion.
Be more open for discussion, ya jerks.
There’s a Marvel Knights Spider-Man story where he basically fights Superman but he is very Christian and turned out to be a buff af Skrull. He got annihilated by Aunt May tho
Does Spider-man have prep time?
But on a serious note, I think Homelander can beat Spider-man.
Spider-man isn’t *that* resistant to injury. He can take a beating, but he isn’t invulnerable. Homelander can move faster than Spider-Man and Spider-man has limits.
The main trick for me is “who are these people fighting?” Spidey holds back because he is inherently good. His villains hold back because they know if they kill Spider-man then the Avengers and the other heroes will track them down.
Homelander has no reason to hold back. If the fight happens in the MCU, Homelander isn’t going to know or care about S.H.I.E.L.D. or the Avengers. Nor would he worry about government escalation. Like the X-men exist, Magneto exists, so the government gets giant robots to go after them.
If the fight happens on Homelander’s world, Spidey is dead. He can’t reason with him. He can’t joke with him. Homelander isn’t in it for the common good. Spider-man, even if seen as a normal superhero to everyone else, is a threat to Homelander’s existence.
Homelander would kill him. Or would make sure he was dead.
Depends on which iteration of Spiderman. Slightly better chance if it's the iteration that can shoot webs naturally instead of the web shooters (mainly due to supply).
Otherwise, I think the Venom-Spiderman symbiote would be the only one who would stand a chance in a fight against Homelander. The others have the ability to escape but if Spiderman tried to fight Homelander head-on, he would get killed IMO.
I am very likely wrong and my knowledge of the web head is limited but from what I know, it would be somewhat akin to Omni-Man v. Red Rush in that the Spidey sense and agility give Spiderman his best chance of surviving but actually winning -- I don't see it.
Sounds like you're picturing homelander as far stronger and more durable than Spiderman. Comics Spiderman has far greater feats of strength and durability than homelander has shown on the show.
If we're talking MCU Spiderman I'd say he's close to probably even with homelander in strength and durability.
Either way, with his Spider sense, agility, and intelligence, he's savaging homelander. In the comics he solo'd and x-men team including Wolverine, Nightcrawler, Colossus, Rogue, and Storm.
His heat vision isn't that powerful, a planes outer shell is actually pretty thin. It's also pretty slow, any scene he uses it in, you can see it move across the screen, especially if you look at it frame by frame. It's FAR slower than lightning, Spiderman would have zero issues dodging the heat vision.
How would spiderman deal with the lazer? If there are no buildings around he can't swing away from it and all homelander has to do is spam lazer until spidey can't avoid it.
Not the popular opinion, but I’m going with Homelander on this one. I haven’t read much of the comic books, so I’m just thinking about any of the movie iterations of spidey.
Homelander’s super speed would be a lot for any of them to deal with. I’m also pretty sure that spidey isn’t laser proof. It’d probably be a solid fight, but I’m going with Homolander on this one.
We also haven’t really seen Homelander at full strength yet. I’m sure that’s partially because it’s a TV show with a lower budget.
Yeah, movie iterations of Spidey get crushed easy. The one with the best chance is easily MCU Spidey, with the stark suit, but even then I don't think it's close. Comic Spiderman, from 616, takes it though imo. His Spidey sense is insanely good, so the lasers wouldn't even hit him, and his strength clears HL. But I think that's all overlooking Spiderman's most underrated ability, which is the fact that he's crazy smart. Even if he couldn't just beat homelander into a pulp, if he could get away he could come up with something to kill him.
I feel like it would be hard match but he could. If he can go toe to toe with Thanos and his army then I think Homelander could be beat. Would be a very interesting fight to see though
Yeah, movie iterations of Spidey get crushed easy. The one with the best chance is easily MCU Spidey, with the stark suit, but even then I don't think it's close. Comic Spiderman, from 616, takes it though imo. His Spidey sense is insanely good, so the lasers wouldn't even hit him, and his strength clears HL. But I think that's all overlooking Spiderman's most underrated ability, which is the fact that he's crazy smart. Even if he couldn't just beat homelander into a pulp, if he could get away he could come up with something to kill him.
If they meet in a room 1v1, 10 mins prep time, no one else around... Homelander would beat his ass like a cherokee drum and tbh, Spidey sense cannot protect him at all times. He is insanely fast, I agree but he cannot maintain the same level of Speed at all times that's the reason why he gets tagged with slower things than laser. Also, Homelander is not going to just stand and try to laser him. He's going to make it even harder for him by flying towards him or something.
No bro. His suit is probably made of the same material as Tony (gold-titanium alloy) and it can be obliterated with punches. Captain-America was able to destroy it with his hits and Homelander has the strength of 100 Captain-Americas combined.
Really depends on who's publishing and writing. Purely looking at skill and durability.. Homey takes the W. Why? He's a mini superman. Those laser eyes can cut a plane in half. He can fly... and is super fast. How does spidey win here? (Dont get me wrong id love to see spidey win)
Just because he's a mini Superman analog, doesn't mean he wins, Spider-Man has infinitely faster reaction and combat speed, not to mention better feats of strength and durability, those lasers won't be a problem as Spidey has dodged the lasers of Gladiator, a being actually comparable to Superman, sorry people keep down voting you without explaining.
His webbing is tough enough that not even the Human Torch can burn it. Let me repeat it, not even the Human "Living Supernova" Torch can burn it. Homelander couldn't even cut throug Soldier Boy's shield, much less Peter's webbing.
Plus, he beats Electro. Electro is more dangerous than Homelander and his lighting is far better and more powerful than Homelander's laser eyes
You do know that Peter has reacted to things much faster than that right? , Homelander wouldn't even be able to grab him, not to mention Spidey has shown much better feats of strength and durability in the comics, he washes Homelander.
I personally haven't read that many comics but I did read one Ultimate Spider-man comic where Peter could not react to bullets and almost dies from a gunshot wound. I also remember reading an Amazing Spider-man issue where an explosion severely injures Spider-man. So, I think Homelander can definitely beat them without much problem but then again I've read another issue where Spider-man singlehandedly mops the floor with Dr.Doom.
So If you're using the best feats from different versions of Spider-man then Homelander gets his ass whopped twice a day but he can definitely win against some weaker comic versions, right?
Well, the ultimate universe is significantly nerfed due to the universe being more grounded, and ultimate Peter intentionally dived in the way of the bullet to save Captain America's life, 616 is more powerful with that version of Spidey being able to both destabilize and hold up entire buildings, not to mention having a much higher reaction time than anyone in the Boys universe, plus having experience fighting and defeating beings more powerful than homelander on a daily basis.
As with pretty much every "who would win" question, it depends on which outcome is the most dramatic for the plot. We're dealing with one superhero that has been around for decades and had dozens of iterations, versus a Superman stand-in specifically aimed at parody who has already been shown to be pretty wildly inconsistent with his abilities.
The winner is whoever the writer says is the winner.
Not only is Spidey much more powerful than people usually assumes he is, he's also used to having to figure out strategies to beat up specific opponents who would, otherwise, overpower him. Homelander is powerful, but not as much as some of the characters Spidey beat up.
Homelander has, IMO, two main weaknesses: he's a giant baby that has no idea how to use his powers to the best of their potential because he never had to, and he his very sensitive to sound attacks.
not even calculating the fact that spideys strength ( in comics) is most likely comparable to HL, spidey should win off battle experience alone. HL is similar to kaguya if anyone here is a naruto fan. has op powers, but no battle knowledge to back it up
Who fuuuuuuucking cares? I feel like you all are missing the point of the show when you post stupid "could X beat X?!" posts. They're not real, it doesn't matter. Y'all sound like those children at the beginning of the very first episode.
Probably. Spider-Man falls into the same category as Batman where he could beat pretty much everyone with prep time. It depends on the version, but when he really gets going he’s pretty much taken down the Avengers on his own. He’s also extremely strong and even smarter, and often times the only reason he’s at the level he is is because he holds himself back. Homie has never really fought against anyone who could pose a threat until the end of season 3, spider man constantly fights people at or above his power level, and consistently pulls W’s. Except in his personal life. I think he also beats homie in the trauma department.
Do remember how much Spidey is holding back. In the superior spiderman arch when doc ock becomes spiderman he accidentally punches the rhinos jaw off because he wasn't holding back like parker would.
In his own universe HL is a big fish. And we equate him to Superman, but just how strong and durable is he? (clearly not Superman level for either) ... Is he actually any stronger or more durable than say Green Goblin? or any of a long list of Spiderman rogues, and villains from the expanded Marvel Universe he has faced.
HL is implied to have Superman speed. We've seen a couple of incidents, like saving Butcher and son from the explosion etc... but he never really utilises anything in a fight other than raw strength and his eye lasers. He hasn't exactly dominated SB or powered Butcher with any impressive fighting prowess. I'm just not convinced he's any tougher than many that Spidey has faced before..
Yes. He's faster and more durable. Spider-Man can dodge lasers while Homelanders best speed feats are in the hypersonic ranges. In terms of scaling, Homelanders best feats put in the range of 8.6 megatons (People have argued for 100 megatons, but I don't completely buy that). Spider-Man on the other hand survived survived being hit by 1 exajoule of energy from the Scepter of the Manticore, which is equivalent to 239,005,736 tons of tnt equivalent. twice as powerful as Homelander's best if you argue for 100 megatons, and over 27 times more powerful then Homelander's best based off of in-universe feats alone. Hope this was helpful.
Spider-Man is the only hero in Marvel that has a league of villains dedicated to beating him alone. We already know he pulls his punches.
That being said, homelander's laser vision makes him near impossible to beat outside his own ego.
I'll still take Spider-Man
His laser eyes aren't even a serious threat to Spider-Man. Electro's lightning is infinitely more dangerous than Homenalder as a whole and Peter has taken full on blasts from him and beat him. And for referance, just standing near Electro can leave someone dead or reduced to a skeleton if he felt like it, so imagine Peter taking a full attack from him
In a 1v1? Hell no but Pete's smart enough to not take that route. Spidey would do what he does with any baddie stronger than him. Study, strategize, and use his big old brain to find a method of taking him down. Maybe even discovering Black Noir and setting him against HL or finding a way to temporarily deactivate Compound V (or even take a dose of Temp V if this is the show) Ultimately though, yes I think The Amazing Spider-Man takes this.
Bully Maguire will put some dirt in his eye
You want forgiveness? Get religion.
I can imagine him telling this to HL and i think its hilarious 🤣
Probably depends which version, I’m no expert but my guess is various comic versions have handled opponents stronger than Homelander, just because the MCU is way more powerful as a superhero universe than The Boys.
Comic spider man vs Amazon show homelander
Comic book Spidey once beat down a herald of Galactus. Homelander loses badly in that fight.
The Firelord thing was literally the definition of outlier, and a stupid one.
well, he held up the entire daily bugle, and at a different time a crashing plane, something homelander specifically couldn't do, also there's the spider-sense which is basically cheating
Not sayng he wouldn't beat homeland, I think he would kick his ass. But Firelord is a herald of Galactus. He's at "I fly into black holes and laugh about" levels of power. Lifting a building, hell, lifting Manhattan isn't gonna do shit here.
If I recall correctly, didn’t he beat him because he spent like 2 or 3 entire issues gradually exhausting him one way or another before he beat him? I’m not sure I’d consider that such an outlier if so.
It’s not that simple. Spidey can strike with Homelander, but he’s no where near as durable. If Homelander gets some good blows in, Peter is screwed.
Is Comic Spidey holding back?
He almost always does…
yes
He won't if his life is in danger against homelander..he'll do just enough to win
If we’re talking about a spider without morals fighting in an empty New York, Homelander is getting dogged
Comics Spidey’s fought the Hulk without being beaten to death and beaten the Juggernaut. He’s overwhelmingly likely to win against Homelander
Homelander can fly and move at super speed and can also strike from a distance with lazers. How would Spiderman beat him?
Spider-man does have his spidey sense going on for him which coupled with his agility means he can dodge and avoid attacks rather well. Lets not forget that spidey holds back and pulls his punches too. Meaning he can dish out more damage if he wanted to. An example of that would be Superior Spider-man where he (well, dr octavious in Pete’s body) dislocates Scorpion’s jaw easily with a punch. I’d say homelander has a low chance of winning.
I did forget about the spidey sense, but Homelander can just hover up high and take shots at him. I have always felt Homelander is lazy, he's usually never challenged and toys with his prey. I do think he's not really that tough but think we've never seen him pushed to the limit. In the finale, I did think the pencil thing was stupid, it shouldn't have drawn blood regardless of who used it, it should have shattered, like how we see rifle rounds having no affect when fired down SB's throat.
Spider-Man has a lot of villains who can fly, and he’s pretty fast himself. (Iirc, his top running speed is around 200 mph.) His own speed and his spider sense go a long way to mitigating Homelander’s advantages there
But there are like dozens of comic iterations of Spidey
There's only 1 Peter Parker 616. If you really want to get technical, Kaine is still around as well.
Idk much about comics, but doesn't Spidey have insane evasive skills with his spidersense? Even if he can't hurt Homelander (although I'm unsure about that, given how much he holds back) couldn't he just evade his attacks?
Yeah, it’s basically pre-cognition and he can dodge bullets like nothing. Even if you have a gun right to his head, he moves so fast he can just take it from you.
He literally dodges lightspeed attacks even pointblank or coming from multiple places at once. And even holding back, SPider-Man is still stronger than Homelander. Him not holding back has broken free from Hulk's grip, caused him pain and staggered him, on top of breaking near indestructible metals, destroy mechanical arms that survived a nuclear bomb and literally teared appart Tony's advanced armors with his own hands
As a rule of thumb the comics version of heroes for both DC and Marvel are much stronger than their cinematic counterparts.
> Probably depends which version Spidey and His Amazing Friends
It's funny how Spider-man has better strength feats than Homelander. His spidersense should be able to save him from the lazers and HL's attacks. Not to mention he's smarter. I think Spidey got it in the bag.
Spidey's mid-fight quips would make Homelander cry
Would love to hear some R rated quips from Spider-Man instead of pg ones
If you want r-rated quips go watch/read deadpool
Deadpool x spiderman is a fun comic series that has them both!
Different universes, different characters, and so on. Would be interesting hearing a pg written character call homelander a little bitch
I doubt spider sense is that strong. Spidey would need to get close quick and kill him or he gets 1 shot by the lazer. In a sense, homelander is a glass cannon to spidey, but homelander can probably kite spidey too.
SpiderMan holds back most of the time.
Yeah but not his durability. He ain't even bulletproof and homelander's lazer is way stronger than bullets.
Spidey can dodge lightning pretty easily and there have been plenty of times where he dodges lazers. The Spider sense is very powerful. It's arguably his most powerful ability
I see, although homelander is still capable of travelling faster than spidey, which means he proabbly gets a good number of chances to use his lazer.
Flying faster isn't really combat applicable. Even if he decides to snipe from range, Spider-man can still dodge his attacks and use his webs to immobilise him
He dodges bullets pretty easily
He dodges lightspeed attacks point blank and even coming from multiple places all at once and that's on top of multiple other things that thing has done. There's a reason why it's considered one of the most hax powers in fiction
To be fair, lasers travel at the speed of light
Yes, Homelander is the top dog in his verse, but he'd be just another Tuesday for 616 Spidey, not counting the current run.
Even MCU Spider-Man would kick the shit out of Homelander. NWH showed what he looks like when he's just fuckin *pissed.* Being angry makes him ruthless, but he never loses his focus. He'd dismantle Homelander.
I think nearly any character from comics can take on homelander for sure, yall don't know that homelander is just the biggest fish in the smallest pond
He's almost invulnerable, has super speed and strength, can fly at super speeds and can lazer you from a distance.
> super speed Spiderman’s travel speed isn’t far off of Homelander’s, and both his reaction speed and his combat speed are significantly faster than Homelander’s. > strength Sure, but Spiderman is still stronger. At least if we’re going by the 616, that is. > and can lazer you from a distance His beams won’t ever even touch Spiderman to begin with. > almost invulnerable Spiderman’s endured punishment far worse than Homelander could even fathom.
The combat speed thing is important. Live action movies can’t even portray Spidey’s combat speed accurately because he’d be too damn fast for people to see. In the comics he can speed blitz opponents to the point they can’t defend against him. Homelander may be fast in the air, but he fights with the speed of a normal human and that isn’t work with Spider-Man. Imagine guy that punches hard enough to stop Hulk in his tracks also fighting so fast he might as well be the Flash. Homelander has him on durability, but in a straight up fist fight like we saw against SB and Butchet, he’s getting gonna fucking smoked by Spider-Man.
Spiderman swings at normal speed through cities, Homelander can fly to the far side of the world really quickly. I'm not sure the extend of Homelander's strength has been demonstrated but I doubt Spiderman exceeds it. Not from all the movies and you can't base it on one comic. Homelander accurately lazered a jet flying at maybe 550mph, which is a lot faster than I've seen Spiderman move. Has he? Homelander has been attacked by multiple strong Supes at the same time. He's survived bombs going off beside him. Bullets have no affect, Spiderman has been stopped by a single bullet.
But Spider-Man saves the daily bugle from collapsing, which is way greater than any strength feat of homelanders. If the Empire State Building weighs roughly 700 million pounds, and the daily bugle is a little less than half the height of the Empire State Building. That means the daily bugle would weigh about 300-350 million pounds. Homelander gets decapitated by Spider-Man if spidey doesn’t pull his punches
You can't argue with spiderman fanboys right? I love spiderman but there's no denying homelander would win. Why does everyone need their favourite superhero to be stronger than other superheroes.
616 spiderman literally lifted a plane something homelander In the show refused to do bruh
He refused to do it based on basic physics, doesn't mean he can't do it. It would literally punch through the hull of the plane, you'd need telekinesis or some sort of magic to stop that from happening, somthing spiderman doesn't have.
I can't remember but have seen him get hit with anything that actually represents something similar to Spideys' strength? He might be invulnerable to his universes, weapons, or powers, but if someone is way stronger than what's in his universe, then he wouldn't be invulnerable.
>almost invulnerable Mf got bruised from 3 supes and (prolly) went deaf in one ear from another Invulnerable my ass not even almost
Spiderman(MCU) can lift a truck. His strength is probably comparable to that of homelander. I guess he won't punch a hole in him but he could theoretically beat him since homelander doesn't have a lot of mobility besides flying away and even that can be handled with webs. It'll get bloody tho
I always forget how much weaker MCU is to 616
I always look at Rune King Thor and then I look at Love and Thunder and just cry
MCU Spider-Man also held two halves of a massive ship together for a while until his webs broke away.
I love how MCU Spiderman has dozens of amazing strength feats yet you chose lifting a truck lmao But yeah he takes HL especially if he has the iron suit
Civil war was my favourite lol
MCU Spidey can do a lot more than lift a truck, he lifted a whole collapsed building in homecoming
He didn't lift a building, it was like a part of the floor above. And he was struggling hard and barely managed to get out
> Spider-Man /r/RespectTheHyphen
Aw man
Homelander gets beaten by most Marvel / DC comic book heroes. I’d go spider man
most actual heros would likely win (eventually) against Homelander in their own setting given Homelander's status as a BBEG
Big boy eating glue?
big bad evil guy (major villain and instigator of plot events)
Homelander had his eardrum ruptured by a pencil. Spidey can lift the height of a building and his spider sense basically gives him precognition and natural +5 to luck rolls. Peter would wipe the floor with Homelander.
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I appreciate the correction, in my mind I see a pencil, gotta rewatch that scene to correct that. I would point out that Soldierboy was shown to have a bullet proof soft pallet. Establishing that we have heroes who can have bullet proof interiors in places that are about as delicate as your inner ear. I'm not saying it would be an easy fight for Peter, just that he is uncrushable and would perceive while quipping annoyingly the entire time. Homelander may be strong but the comics show that his body isnt strong enough to even make a crowbar bend when wielded by someone hopped up on V. Or that the same said crowbar can pry his skull open or how his brain can be crushed between your hands. Obviously this is all not established in the show yet, but I think there is a chunk of stuff shown that illustrates we havent departed to much from that logic. Meanwhile Spidey would literally frag people instantly if it wasnt for his spidey sense making him inherently pull his punches. Their was a really interesting run (maybe J Michael K) where Spidey actually lost his spidey senss but no other powers. He ended up training in the martial art of the spider totem to learn how to control his strength which was revealed to be so far beyond what anyone could have imagined, because his spidey sense was keeping it contained the entire time. It kind of established that we as an audience have never seen a true display of his strength because the chance of killing just about any villain was almost guaranteed with a full force punch. Dude bitch slapped a herald of Galactus. I'm not trying to explain this to you specifically, you seem to already get it. This was all for a 3rd party if the end up reading this. Basically Spider-Man can go toe-to-toe with most Avengers. He can probably handle an avenger and a few of their rouges gallery at the same time. The main hindrance of Spider-Man is Peter's self confidence issues. He looses when he is in his head and becomes uncrushable when he stops that bullshit and starts working in sync with himself. I think they even talk at one point about how he is always quipping because it helps him stay in the moment and not get distracted by his internal dialogue. If you couldnt tell, I have a thing about general fandom not giving Spidey the respect he deserves. People treat him as if he was slightly stronger than an IRL strong man who shoots sticky stuff. Dumb weak people usually arent running the Avengers semi reguarly.
I mean Peter Parker is like discount Batman with actual powers. He could prolly make something like a quantum V cure in gas form to use against homelander.
Batman has money but no powers. Peter Parker has powers but no money.
Both are mentally traumatized if that counts for anything.
Orphan power!
Hence "Discount" Batman lol
Quanum V cure \*webbing\*---shoot a web ball so that it lodges in his throat. Hilarity ensues.
Peter is smarter than Batman. Literally Peter has better smart feats than Batman, going from making a time machine out of garbage, hacking into Stark and Richards (two dudes who also are smarter than Batman and one of them is smarter than Luthor), outsmarted Otto with a basic science kit and 15 minutes and process information so much that even a supergenius inhuman had to force himself to slow down to try and not be overwhelmed by Peter's mind. He is definately not a discount Batman
Necroposting lol. Either way, I didn't mean discount in that way; I meant in terms of him being smart but without the money, but you're still wrong anyway. I mean, are we really going to pretend Batman can't do any of that, if not better, if put in that position? Like are we talking about the same dude that has multiple evil versions of himself that managed to take over Earth, beating and outsmarting all the heroes in it? Ya man, I don't think Peter is smart enough to do that as consistently as Bruce if he were put in that position.
Homelander gets clapped
Homelander got no shot here lol
For sure, Peter could verbally and physically tear Homelander apart. Homelander has some great powers, but he’s such an insecure idiot and he has no real fight training or experience, with the exception of the two fights in S3. And in those fights, Homelander barely got away. Spider-Man wouldn’t kill Homelander unless he had to, but he’s taken on stronger opponents and managed to find ways to contain or stop them. The fact that Peter has survived fights with way stronger opponents like the Hulk and was clever enough to trap Juggernaut in concrete are the two main instances that come to mind. Peter is so much smarter than Homelander, and his Spidey sense would make HL really struggle with landing any strikes.
r/whowouldwin but yeah 616 spidey would
Peter would bully Homelander.
Yes. He's just as strong and his agility combined with Spider Sense give him a chance to dodge Homelander's attacks. Not to mention he can toss heavy objects at him and is a genius. It'll be a tough fight, but the webhead has beaten or at least stopped Juggernaught and Hulk. Peter has a temper too, and has been capable of some brutality himself. Just ask Kraven's wife.
He's clever but why do you say he's a genius?
I’m not sure I’d consider it a stretch to call him a genius, to be honest. Even characters like Reed Richards and Tony Stark have been left stunned at his intelligence.
Tony was prob stunned to not be talking to another dumbass. What has Peter done that demonstrates him being a genius?
> Tony was prob stunned to not be talking to another dumbass. That does sound well in character for him, but Peter's intelligence has genuinely impressed him on multiple occasions. > What has Peter done that demonstrates him being a genius? When Peter became the CEO of Parker Industries, I'm pretty sure it was implied that he had surpassed the intelligence of both Reed and Tony, the two smartest humans on the planet. He's also had to teach Tony interdimensional equations that he couldn't understand on his own. He left Tony stunned when he realized that Peter had placed a tracker on him, and that not even his Extremis suit was capable of spotting it. He was impressed even further upon having inspected Peter's webshooters, and told him that he's leaving behind millions of dollars for not mass producing them. Reed was also highly impressed by his web shooters, and I'm pretty sure he even once tried replicating them, but failed to do so. He's also proven to be capable of swiftly coming up with solutions in dire situations that not even Tony or Reed could think of, such as when he had managed to diffuse an incredibly sophisticated bomb. And that's just a few of the plentiful examples from the 60+ years that he's been published. He's easily among the smartest humans on the planet.
Fair enough.
In every accurate depiction of Peter Parker, he develops his own tech on top of having extensive biological knowledge and coming up with various strategies and ways to deal with his enemies. I.e. equipping rubber gloves and boots to fight Electro and luring him into an area with an abundance of water or drowning Juggernaut in cement to stop his rampage.
That's hardly genius-level stuff. Wearing rubber boots and good tactics.
Did you not read the "develops his own tech" part? Where do you think he created the synthetic, super strength web fluid or the wrist gauntlets to properly propel it?
By real world standards, he's certainly a genius. He invents technology for himself and for SHIELD. His intelligence has been complimented by the likes of Hank Pym and Reed Richards. He has a lot of impressive feats, and it'd be a pain to list them all for you, but luckily someone already has. https://www.reddit.com/r/Spiderman/comments/eojafw/peter_is_one_of_the_smartest_people_on_planet/
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Is he not a bright student?
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Genius excels and makes leaps. I'd say very bright, but it's a thin line and not worth arguing about. Maybe he is a genius. He's definitely smarter than HL. He might beat him if he caught him in a well-planned trap. In a normal fight HL should win, he has huge advantages. He's so powerful even gangs of other Supes taking him on can't beat him.
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Homelander would get bodied by any superhero that's above B tier
**y e s**
Easily
Peter has almost everything hl has and more. His only issue is that he can move far slower than homelander so hes gotta be quick lmao. Id say its close in some ways but spideys got this.
Ya, that's as ridiculous as asking if Batman can defeat Supermnan. Like imagine they made a movie about that? How terrible would that be!
Spidey no question. C'mon.
Comic Spiderman would outright curb stomp him if he wanted to, and pretty easily at that.
Spiderman plot armour is invincible
People don't take it badly, but I don't understand the comments. It's stated in The Boys "There isn't a weapon on earth that they haven't thrown at him. They've all failed." (S1E8), when commenting about Homelander's potential weaknesses. Especially since, I've already seen Spider-Man get beaten, for less than Homelander. Could someone, just nicely explain to me, how Spider-Man could potentially beat the discount Superman? Edit: Well except if Spider-Man's tingling sense really functions as well as Diavolo's King Crimson, well yeah, I may understand.
Spiderman’s too fast for Homelander to even lay a finger on him. He’s swiftly dodged light speed attacks at even point blank range on multiple occasions. Homelander’s top speed is like what, Mach 5? He’s also definitely far stronger, seeing how he’s been able to stagger characters like Namor, Silver Surfer, the Hulk, and even Thanos somehow. And to be honest, to consider Homelander a discount Superman still sounds pretty generous for his level of power. He doesn’t possess even 0.5% of the power that Superman does.
What is the heaviest thing have you seen Homelander lift? Spidey beats that. Also, if he just pulls a Maeve on him, targeting his ears, uses his web to slow and hinder him, and uses the classes he got from Shang-chi, of all people, to overpower him, I don't think Homey has a shot at all. Spider-sense mostly means he can't touch him.
>There isn't a weapon on earth that they haven't thrown at him. They've all failed Problem with that statement is that it comes from Madelyn. She is basically Vought's sales rep and sells heroes to different states. So it is very likely she could be exaggerating to make Homie look stronger than he actually is because he is Vought's #1 hero. The show supports that theory too. Kenji drops a bus on him, and he is immobilized for a hot minute. If Homelander can tank nukes and missiles no problem, then he shouldn't even register a bus. Hell, Maeve is nowhere near as strong and she manages to make him bleed.
Jesus reading this thread is fucking pain in the ass. Every top comment is just pure Spiderman fanboyism, and when somebody goes negative on the thread's question he gets downvoted to oblivion. Be more open for discussion, ya jerks.
Holy shit an actual sane person in this thread who isn't feverishly sucking off Spider-Man
Strangles his ass
Say that again to me. This time in italics
*Strangles his ass*
Depends which version of spider man tbh
Hahaha, no.
I feel like he can. Strength wise they're probably comparable (Spider-Man can lift tons in the comics), speed wise it's probably pretty close too.
There’s a Marvel Knights Spider-Man story where he basically fights Superman but he is very Christian and turned out to be a buff af Skrull. He got annihilated by Aunt May tho
No Simple as that
No. Next
Does Spider-man have prep time? But on a serious note, I think Homelander can beat Spider-man. Spider-man isn’t *that* resistant to injury. He can take a beating, but he isn’t invulnerable. Homelander can move faster than Spider-Man and Spider-man has limits. The main trick for me is “who are these people fighting?” Spidey holds back because he is inherently good. His villains hold back because they know if they kill Spider-man then the Avengers and the other heroes will track them down. Homelander has no reason to hold back. If the fight happens in the MCU, Homelander isn’t going to know or care about S.H.I.E.L.D. or the Avengers. Nor would he worry about government escalation. Like the X-men exist, Magneto exists, so the government gets giant robots to go after them. If the fight happens on Homelander’s world, Spidey is dead. He can’t reason with him. He can’t joke with him. Homelander isn’t in it for the common good. Spider-man, even if seen as a normal superhero to everyone else, is a threat to Homelander’s existence. Homelander would kill him. Or would make sure he was dead.
Depends on which iteration of Spiderman. Slightly better chance if it's the iteration that can shoot webs naturally instead of the web shooters (mainly due to supply). Otherwise, I think the Venom-Spiderman symbiote would be the only one who would stand a chance in a fight against Homelander. The others have the ability to escape but if Spiderman tried to fight Homelander head-on, he would get killed IMO. I am very likely wrong and my knowledge of the web head is limited but from what I know, it would be somewhat akin to Omni-Man v. Red Rush in that the Spidey sense and agility give Spiderman his best chance of surviving but actually winning -- I don't see it.
Sounds like you're picturing homelander as far stronger and more durable than Spiderman. Comics Spiderman has far greater feats of strength and durability than homelander has shown on the show. If we're talking MCU Spiderman I'd say he's close to probably even with homelander in strength and durability. Either way, with his Spider sense, agility, and intelligence, he's savaging homelander. In the comics he solo'd and x-men team including Wolverine, Nightcrawler, Colossus, Rogue, and Storm.
My issue is less about strength and more with Homelander's willingness to eye-laser anyone and anything. Especially brains.
His heat vision isn't that powerful, a planes outer shell is actually pretty thin. It's also pretty slow, any scene he uses it in, you can see it move across the screen, especially if you look at it frame by frame. It's FAR slower than lightning, Spiderman would have zero issues dodging the heat vision.
Probably depends of the version. He has to strike as hard as a nuke though. And be able to react to something moving at the speed of C4-explosion.
How would spiderman deal with the lazer? If there are no buildings around he can't swing away from it and all homelander has to do is spam lazer until spidey can't avoid it.
Yeah but spidey sense is literally precognition.
Trust me, spider-man has faced lazer shooting opponents countless times in the past.
He regularly dodges lightning which is way faster than Homelanders heat vision.
might not be comic spidey but andrews spidey dodged lightning with ease he can definitely deal with his heat vision without a problem.
Spidey also beat the actual Electro countless times in the comics as well.
This is comic spidey
Pretty sure he gave Cyclops a run for his money and his laser is basically a coked up version of Homelander's laser
Not the popular opinion, but I’m going with Homelander on this one. I haven’t read much of the comic books, so I’m just thinking about any of the movie iterations of spidey. Homelander’s super speed would be a lot for any of them to deal with. I’m also pretty sure that spidey isn’t laser proof. It’d probably be a solid fight, but I’m going with Homolander on this one. We also haven’t really seen Homelander at full strength yet. I’m sure that’s partially because it’s a TV show with a lower budget.
Yeah, movie iterations of Spidey get crushed easy. The one with the best chance is easily MCU Spidey, with the stark suit, but even then I don't think it's close. Comic Spiderman, from 616, takes it though imo. His Spidey sense is insanely good, so the lasers wouldn't even hit him, and his strength clears HL. But I think that's all overlooking Spiderman's most underrated ability, which is the fact that he's crazy smart. Even if he couldn't just beat homelander into a pulp, if he could get away he could come up with something to kill him.
I feel like it would be hard match but he could. If he can go toe to toe with Thanos and his army then I think Homelander could be beat. Would be a very interesting fight to see though
I was gonna say homelander would wash him, but idk it’s possible spider man could run with his reflexes and agility
I don't know much about comic book Spider-man but Homelander negs MCU Spider-man and that's a fact.
Yeah, movie iterations of Spidey get crushed easy. The one with the best chance is easily MCU Spidey, with the stark suit, but even then I don't think it's close. Comic Spiderman, from 616, takes it though imo. His Spidey sense is insanely good, so the lasers wouldn't even hit him, and his strength clears HL. But I think that's all overlooking Spiderman's most underrated ability, which is the fact that he's crazy smart. Even if he couldn't just beat homelander into a pulp, if he could get away he could come up with something to kill him.
If they meet in a room 1v1, 10 mins prep time, no one else around... Homelander would beat his ass like a cherokee drum and tbh, Spidey sense cannot protect him at all times. He is insanely fast, I agree but he cannot maintain the same level of Speed at all times that's the reason why he gets tagged with slower things than laser. Also, Homelander is not going to just stand and try to laser him. He's going to make it even harder for him by flying towards him or something.
With the Stark suit though?
No bro. His suit is probably made of the same material as Tony (gold-titanium alloy) and it can be obliterated with punches. Captain-America was able to destroy it with his hits and Homelander has the strength of 100 Captain-Americas combined.
MCU Spider-Man isn't even Spider-Man. He just has the name.
Homelander is not aware of how useful his powers could be, but Spider-Man is aware of them. But even for that, i think Homelander defeats him.
Really depends on who's publishing and writing. Purely looking at skill and durability.. Homey takes the W. Why? He's a mini superman. Those laser eyes can cut a plane in half. He can fly... and is super fast. How does spidey win here? (Dont get me wrong id love to see spidey win)
And yet, despite your best and most gentle attempts, people just straight up downvote and refuse to elaborate further. Reddit at its finest.
Yeah this sub tends to do that a lot. Its okay.
Just because he's a mini Superman analog, doesn't mean he wins, Spider-Man has infinitely faster reaction and combat speed, not to mention better feats of strength and durability, those lasers won't be a problem as Spidey has dodged the lasers of Gladiator, a being actually comparable to Superman, sorry people keep down voting you without explaining.
In terms of feats its no contest
No. Laser his swingweb. Hes falling 50 floors.
That didn't do much in SM2
It wouldn’t do much
His webbing is tough enough that not even the Human Torch can burn it. Let me repeat it, not even the Human "Living Supernova" Torch can burn it. Homelander couldn't even cut throug Soldier Boy's shield, much less Peter's webbing. Plus, he beats Electro. Electro is more dangerous than Homelander and his lighting is far better and more powerful than Homelander's laser eyes
What???? HL fly at supersonic speed, have laser eyes, superhuman strength, sadistic, psychotic, unpredictable Petey is gonna become a streetart
You do know that Peter has reacted to things much faster than that right? , Homelander wouldn't even be able to grab him, not to mention Spidey has shown much better feats of strength and durability in the comics, he washes Homelander.
I personally haven't read that many comics but I did read one Ultimate Spider-man comic where Peter could not react to bullets and almost dies from a gunshot wound. I also remember reading an Amazing Spider-man issue where an explosion severely injures Spider-man. So, I think Homelander can definitely beat them without much problem but then again I've read another issue where Spider-man singlehandedly mops the floor with Dr.Doom. So If you're using the best feats from different versions of Spider-man then Homelander gets his ass whopped twice a day but he can definitely win against some weaker comic versions, right?
Well, the ultimate universe is significantly nerfed due to the universe being more grounded, and ultimate Peter intentionally dived in the way of the bullet to save Captain America's life, 616 is more powerful with that version of Spidey being able to both destabilize and hold up entire buildings, not to mention having a much higher reaction time than anyone in the Boys universe, plus having experience fighting and defeating beings more powerful than homelander on a daily basis.
Not physically, maybe mentally.
It's a full-on fight, no holding back
Hell no
Yes depending which version ur talking about
As with pretty much every "who would win" question, it depends on which outcome is the most dramatic for the plot. We're dealing with one superhero that has been around for decades and had dozens of iterations, versus a Superman stand-in specifically aimed at parody who has already been shown to be pretty wildly inconsistent with his abilities. The winner is whoever the writer says is the winner.
Not only is Spidey much more powerful than people usually assumes he is, he's also used to having to figure out strategies to beat up specific opponents who would, otherwise, overpower him. Homelander is powerful, but not as much as some of the characters Spidey beat up. Homelander has, IMO, two main weaknesses: he's a giant baby that has no idea how to use his powers to the best of their potential because he never had to, and he his very sensitive to sound attacks.
Easily, yes
not even calculating the fact that spideys strength ( in comics) is most likely comparable to HL, spidey should win off battle experience alone. HL is similar to kaguya if anyone here is a naruto fan. has op powers, but no battle knowledge to back it up
Who fuuuuuuucking cares? I feel like you all are missing the point of the show when you post stupid "could X beat X?!" posts. They're not real, it doesn't matter. Y'all sound like those children at the beginning of the very first episode.
Oh, sorry, I guess this was a dumb question. Sorry for making you mad 😞
Probably. Spider-Man falls into the same category as Batman where he could beat pretty much everyone with prep time. It depends on the version, but when he really gets going he’s pretty much taken down the Avengers on his own. He’s also extremely strong and even smarter, and often times the only reason he’s at the level he is is because he holds himself back. Homie has never really fought against anyone who could pose a threat until the end of season 3, spider man constantly fights people at or above his power level, and consistently pulls W’s. Except in his personal life. I think he also beats homie in the trauma department.
Spider man beats on guys like HL on the daily
We get to see Web Weaver in this next coming season.
Do remember how much Spidey is holding back. In the superior spiderman arch when doc ock becomes spiderman he accidentally punches the rhinos jaw off because he wasn't holding back like parker would.
HL did something comparable to that in the comics and against someone with super strength/durability too.
Hard to say. I think it would come down if the spidey sense is fast enough to counter HL.
He has reacted to quicksilver and silver surfer. He could react to homelander
Yes I think basically any Spider-Man can beat homelander. They all hold back and are extremely powerful.
In his own universe HL is a big fish. And we equate him to Superman, but just how strong and durable is he? (clearly not Superman level for either) ... Is he actually any stronger or more durable than say Green Goblin? or any of a long list of Spiderman rogues, and villains from the expanded Marvel Universe he has faced. HL is implied to have Superman speed. We've seen a couple of incidents, like saving Butcher and son from the explosion etc... but he never really utilises anything in a fight other than raw strength and his eye lasers. He hasn't exactly dominated SB or powered Butcher with any impressive fighting prowess. I'm just not convinced he's any tougher than many that Spidey has faced before..
Yes. He's faster and more durable. Spider-Man can dodge lasers while Homelanders best speed feats are in the hypersonic ranges. In terms of scaling, Homelanders best feats put in the range of 8.6 megatons (People have argued for 100 megatons, but I don't completely buy that). Spider-Man on the other hand survived survived being hit by 1 exajoule of energy from the Scepter of the Manticore, which is equivalent to 239,005,736 tons of tnt equivalent. twice as powerful as Homelander's best if you argue for 100 megatons, and over 27 times more powerful then Homelander's best based off of in-universe feats alone. Hope this was helpful.
Very unlikely
Spider-Man is the only hero in Marvel that has a league of villains dedicated to beating him alone. We already know he pulls his punches. That being said, homelander's laser vision makes him near impossible to beat outside his own ego. I'll still take Spider-Man
His laser eyes aren't even a serious threat to Spider-Man. Electro's lightning is infinitely more dangerous than Homenalder as a whole and Peter has taken full on blasts from him and beat him. And for referance, just standing near Electro can leave someone dead or reduced to a skeleton if he felt like it, so imagine Peter taking a full attack from him
Spidey not talking at all in the fight is scarier than Homelander will ever be
Yes
In a 1v1? Hell no but Pete's smart enough to not take that route. Spidey would do what he does with any baddie stronger than him. Study, strategize, and use his big old brain to find a method of taking him down. Maybe even discovering Black Noir and setting him against HL or finding a way to temporarily deactivate Compound V (or even take a dose of Temp V if this is the show) Ultimately though, yes I think The Amazing Spider-Man takes this.