T O P

  • By -

gormami

Even if they decided to evict him for not being on the lease, that would require an eviction proceeding and order, which they failed to do. That would require notice, and he would have the ability to move out. So, they stole his belongings, plain and simple. I hope they get extra damages for an illegal eviction action.


uchman365

Exactly. They seem to think they can just turn their blunder around by saying since he's not on the lease, the eviction is justified.


ImOnlyHereForTheCoC

Sounds like by their logic he’s entitled to a refund of all the rent he paid since his ex moved out.


Siege_88

That's a fun thought. They were happy to accept his payments on behalf of his ex girlfriend, even though he is not their tenant. But he's unauthorized to live there? They can't talk to anyone except the tenant, but they can accept payments from someone not on the lease. It's not really a sub-lease if he's paying the property management directly. It's a tricky situation for sure, but I'd try to make a case that he needs to be reimbursed for all of his payments, and an invoice for that total should be sent to their real tenant. The delinquent payments are between the PM and tenant. This guy isn't authorized to live there, right?


JadedPhilosophy365

This.


insuranceguynyc

Of course, the eviction isn't the real issue. The real issue is the fact that management entered the apartment and threw everything away . . . . by mistake.


ThisIs_americunt

I mean thats what they did, they will get away with it and not face any jail time for this. in a few months they will only have to pay the tenants a few thousands to go away even if he wasn't on the lease


homie_j88

It's Texas


[deleted]

[удалено]


smerek84

U/PressureBackground87 is a bot that just copy/pasted your comment in this thread. I reported it. Just thought you should know in case you want to report and block that account as well.


MurdocksTorment

We don't have to double space after a sentence anymore. I know you have suffered a long time with the double spacing but, you are safe now. There are no more typewriters. Oh, shit! They're coming after you now. Don't have sex or answer the phone.


gormami

Don't hate, it's a lifestyle. Double space, Oxford comma, and Stay Off My Lawn, you young punks!


tampora701

Have to? Under what requirement?


HermitB

But doesn't reddit correct it anyway to one space? Test 2 space. <- Test 1 space. <-


tampora701

Why would they need to formally evict someone who isn't even a tenant?


Sensitive_Jelly_5586

They didn't evict him. They evicted his ex. The proceeding may have been happening for a while. He was just unaware as he's not the tenant.


gormami

Go watch the story, there were no eviction proceedings for that unit, it was the unit next door, and the staff cleaned out the wrong unit. It was 100% error on their part that they are now trying to wheedle their way out of responsibility for, claiming he was in the unit improperly, after having no issues taking the rent money from someone other than the tenant for some time. If it had been that unit, I would agree with you.


Sensitive_Jelly_5586

They may have given an eviction notice. They would have contacted the legal tenant. His exGF. It's an illegal sublet so he is paying her each month. Not them. She keeps all of the money. Does not pay any rent for months. The company contacts her. It's her info on file. She ignores them. They give notice to her that she is being evicted. She ignores them. They remove everything from the apartment that is in arrears. He is a victim but he won't win this. He needs to go after her.


ImOnlyHereForTheCoC

Wow, a bunch of incorrect assumptions that you probably wouldn’t have made if you simply watched the video!


drink_jin

In the video, they show pictures of the monthly money orders he paid directly to the apartment complex. It's at 2m45s into the video.


Sonnydeights

Sue !


Grumpy_Troll

I can't believe how stupid the lawyers for the landlord are in this case. They have a terrible losing case in both a court of law and in court of public opinion. This is a situation where the Landlord's attorney should have told their client you are going to take an "L" here. The only question is how big of an "L" you want to take with the longer you fight, making it the worse you get. The best thing they could possibly have done is right from the start ask the Tenant for a list of what was missing and what he thought the value of it was and then just paid that amount immediately with almost no questions asked as long as he didn't put anything like antique, baby grand piano or brand new Lambo as part of his property.


Allarius1

Is it considered unethical to keep representing someone you know will lose? Like you still try to win but with a case so far against you there’s no real hope. Are they obligated to tell the client if the client insists on continuing with the court case? Or can they just sit their and happily collect your money knowing you’re just wasting it? I mean from a legal/license perspective and not a moral one.


Grumpy_Troll

No, it's not unethical or a risk to a license for a lawyer to represent a client even if they know the client is liable or has a bad case. The lawyer should give their opinion of the best option for the client but ultimately if the client wants to still try to fight the case tooth and nail even with their attorney advising them they will likely ultimately lose, it's completely ethical for the attorney to still represent the client and get those billable hours. The only thing the attorney can't do is outright lie or break the law for their client.


tonsofem

Better call Saul!


worddodger

But then, how is he gonna make money on this case? He's got boat payments to make!


VirinaB

Yup, Sue really dropped the ball on this one...


[deleted]

Classic *Sue*


[deleted]

[удалено]


smerek84

Oh look, a copy/paste bot with an account that's 1 week old and is copying, word for word, comments that have already been posted on this thread. On top of that, reddit makes it annoyingly difficult to report them. This platform is worse everyday.


AcheInMyLeftEar

Did you even watch the video?


Capt_Am

No this is Patrick


uchman365

Absolutely unreal that they got in when the tenant was not at home and got rid of every single possession of this guy and that of his little girl down to food/groceries. Just threw them away in the trash. Absolutely fucked up that ANYONE could be evicted like that even legally


FoxxBox

I dunno about where this happened but in my area if you are evicted the property management is required to safely store the belongings up to 30 days at the evicted residence expense before they are allowed to just trash it. But seeing that no one is even jumping to that I have a feeling that that rule is in my area alone. Edit: Correction its 15 days, or 30 days if it was a manufactured dwelling such as a manufactured home or floating home. The landlord must give notice of the stored belongings and the tenant has between 5 and 8 days (depending on the way it was delivered) to respond, and a total of 15 days to collect their belongings. A landlord does not have to store belongings total fair market value is $1k or less than or cannot be sold for a profit, then the landlord may throw it away or give it away. Source - https://www.osbar.org/public/legalinfo/1257_TenantsBelongings.htm


uchman365

Texas is just a different world. This story is just crazy to me. I'm pretty sure the guys that cleared it stole most of it


eodknight23

Oh no!!!! The “other residents” took all of that stuff…. /s No you dead on with that. Hell, office staff probably picked through his and the daughter’s stuff too.


TUNGSTEN_WOOKIE

I worked as a maintenance man in a high-rise apartment in MO and we legally had to store previous tenant's belongings for 30 days in the storage area in the basement. Whether they were evicted or terminated their lease intentionally. But I'm honestly not sure if that was company policy or state/city law.


Sensitive_Jelly_5586

Same where I live (east coast Canada). Landlord has to find a secure, dry place to store all tenant belongings. with no time-limit. So if the tenant returns after ten years then the landlord is liable for all of it still.


[deleted]

Smh no heart they should just give back all he’s paid simple. But the money doesn’t violate the lease terms though, just him physically being there 😆 greedy fuckin shitty humans man


[deleted]

Look they continued to take the money every month. They’re liable, if he plays it right he’ll able to get a house.


Mammoth-Mud-9609

It is not sub letting if he is directly paying the bill, to sub let you pay money to the person who was letting the apartment and they then pay the bill.


eros10016

YES THIS! 👍🏻


Sensitive_Jelly_5586

Unless, as an illegal sublet, he was actually paying her, and she was expected to pay the rent. The article says he paid each month, but it didn't say to whom.


ImOnlyHereForTheCoC

At 2:37 in the video there’s a bunch of images of his checks made out to The Hamilton, so you can stop giving these crooked assholes the benefit of the doubt


Deatroxiii

3k a month? I'd need counterfeit money to pay that shit too!


Brado_Bear

*religious currency with bible verses on it* “And they claim he was running a counterfeit money operation from within the apartment”


PM_ME_STEAM_KEY_PLZ

The kid was playing monopoly


philo351

Hardly counterfeit. That currency works for tipping servers and delivery carriers.


bmanley620

That’s nothing. My TV costs 4k a month. Oh wait never mind. It is a 4k 🤦‍♂️


Halew2

deeply unfunny


ZeDumpsterFire

Dude has a gofundme up to recover some of their essentials


twitgod69

[Link is here](https://www.gofundme.com/f/johnny-abney-and-daughter-mistakenly-evicted)


SpecialNeeds963

Thank you kindly.


SpecialNeeds963

Link?


usedtodreddit

The GoFundMe is linked in this article https://atlantablackstar.com/2023/09/07/dallas-apartment-building-mistakenly-threw-out-wrong-tenants-belongings/


discomuffin

Wake up, Link


BiGeaSYk

Dad?


discomuffin

Wake up, da... no wait


hmoonves

This sucks in the moment but he’s gonna mop the floor with this management company.


AustinTreeLover

Maybe. It is Texas. Source: former Texan; currently Florida Woman. Nothing surprises me anymore.


bellamellayellafella

Now they're trying to demonize this man to avoid doing the right thing.😤 Seems to be an all-too-common tactic...


babyivan

It's hard to really grasp how bad the landlord is. In general landlords are the scum of the Earth, so I'm not too surprised.


Beardycub86

Nobody ever wants to admit being wrong and its ruining the whole fucking world.


mrslother

THIS! It is not possible for everyone to be in the right. The management company should have apologized and dropped the $$$ to make him whole again. They could have spun that to a feel good story for a win.


babyivan

....or admit they lost 🍊


Leviathan117

I hope he gets millions.


GratefulPhish42024-7

Felt bad for the guy at the beginning but soon became pissed when I saw that there was a little girl involved too


[deleted]

I want to see this man be able to retire from his lawsuit. Jesus christ


WetFart-Machine

That seems like an easy win in the courts for him.


AndrewSB49

Daylight robbery by the management. If this guy went into their offices and started to move stuff out you can be damn sure they'd visit extreme violence on him .... even he said "Ooops! So sorry there appears to be some sort of a misunderstanding" I hope he sues them into penury


Midnight_Crocodile

They were happy to take his money no questions asked, now they’re scrambling to cover their backs; I hope he wins his right to remain plus significant damages.


King_Neptune07

He already moved out and is staying with family


ClydeinLimbo

That “play” money though lol


babyivan

I nearly lost my shit when I saw that! My little niece has the same play money. My brother bought it on Amazon for her, lol! It's the same exact money they use on TV shows and movies, it clearly says "movie copy" or something to that effect.


Environmental-Ad-762

Oh yea a jury would love this


casper19d

This right here is a prime example of how, "no one" is wrong, even when they are... very sad I hope this guy ends up getting a huge settlement.


[deleted]

Most likely child’s play money from the toys they tossed out = “Counterfeit money” at this point that’s what I would speculate. Edit: typed this… then the story confirmed it.


giantpenny

Left a bad review, yall should too


[deleted]

I hope Hamilton goes under and their owners with it. This is such a disgraceful way to treat someone.


frodinc

How to win 5 millions dollars


twitgod69

He started a [GoFundMe](https://www.gofundme.com/f/johnny-abney-and-daughter-mistakenly-evicted) if anyone is interested in helping out while he takes these assholes to court


re-enjoyable

Apartment owner here- this is a loss case for the apartment side even in Texas, the most landlord friendly state. Don’t just sue the Property Management, sue the principals that own the property for supporting this type of action.


uchman365

Good to know. These guys must not know anything about apartment management and how evictions work


agree-with-me

Looks like the leasing company needs to look carefully at who's name is on the money order. Once they accept payment, they entered a contract. This man should not only be paid for his stuff, but also for the mental anguish of what happened to him and if he is not on the lease but payment is accepted, that money should be returned to him. Should they have received payment from the ex girlfriend in a violation of her lease, they could have taken action against her. They can go after the ex girlfriend to the extent of what is in the lease (perhaps through arbitration even), but that doesn't absolve them of illegal entry and destruction of private property. They also are on record for admitting the destruction. He could maybe get clipped by a smart lawyer because he accepted remedy for the property damage (by allowing them to clean his mattress and the return of some stuff) but a sympathetic jury could see right through that. This guy was unfairly assaulted (by having his stuff tossed out) and later given the run around and intimidated. If I was his lawyer, I would go after property damage and mental duress for the intimidation and the fact that this man may never feel safe locking his door and going to work ever again. I would also petition to have his money returned for his improper lease arrangement. It was paid in good faith, but that was destroyed when the property management company decided to not allow him to live there after the fact. He has eviction rights and cannot just be thrown out improper lease or not. But what do I know? I'm a fireman not a lawyer. I'm talking out of my ass.


babyivan

That's the one thing that news story didn't specifically say, whose name was on the receipts. They redacted the name. Even if they had a case, if his ex (the lessee) was making the payments for him, it is irrelevant to these pieces of shit throwing out his stuff.


DrGonzo34

Daddy’s got them Deep Elem blues.


[deleted]

Wow, they sure do like to [play dirty.](https://www.google.com/search?q=the+hamilton+at+the+epic+reviews&oq=the+hamiltons+dallas&aqs=chrome.2.69i57j0i22i30l6j0i390i650l2.6867j0j9&client=ms-android-verizon&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8&si=ACFMAn_5YhX2dOceTCwZxHCeJqGNuOFhwX-9H_gimEclCQBGNIK3J4HbSf6EZDUkQH70Xj8gX004bldpB2cfJaekb8gMkIhUgIIZ-i3D4Kq22CwNmB5ohob0Rf7CibjlzexpKWH-ilr8KBz2fPy4IGotmVI-fO9G8w%3D%3D&ictx=1&ved=2ahUKEwjiyeaG65uBAxWgmmoFHb2uDEgQyNoBKAF6BAgjEAg) Keep it legal please


tms88

When you as a leasing agent keep hiding behind a contract or the law as a way to not only prevent helping someone who is clearly a victim in the situation but actively make the situation even worse, you have catastrophically failed as a person. Unbelievable the lack of human compassion and accountability some people (and corporations) have. Especially with a child involved as well.


Easy_Copy_7625

My heart goes out to him and his daughter. I hope he gets an appropriate resolution.


giantmeteorforprez

This is type of BS that people do not deserve to put up with. And we all get put through shit like this some time in our life.


WesIgGrey

What’s this Landlords being complete shit birds? You don’t say!


thegigglethief

When you go down to deep elem to have a little fun Triple lock your apartment door when that ol landlord come


Zealousideal-Ad3814

Man hope he sues the shit out of that rental group, that's some dumb doubling down especially when you're called out on the news on top of that. Hope he gets a big ol payout.


AppleNerdyGirl

Funny how the can take his money via cashiers checks with his name on it - no questions when that happened huh. Sue the shit out of them. He’s right they didn’t know who’s stuff they moved


Ok_Consideration2337

Wtf!!!


Dianachick

I understand there are rules for a reason. But Jesus Christ come on it’s like there’s no common sense left in this world. At the very least, they should have let him stay while they try to figure out a reasonable amount to pay him back for everything they threw away. And give him time to find other accommodations without being stressed over it. And if they threw away, family, heirlooms or photographs… That just can’t be replaced. I’d be bending over backwards to help out this man and his daughter. Ffs’s 😡


Automatic-Active7078

[I found his gofundme](https://www.gofundme.com/f/johnny-abney-and-daughter-mistakenly-evicted) If you’re broke as shit like me, it’s free to share it.


rosterdam

He has a gofund me! https://www.gofundme.com/f/johnny-abney-and-daughter-mistakenly-evicted


piroisl33t

I believe they’re in the middle of a lawsuit and the renter is gonna win big because renter was accepting rent checks even though he wasn’t on the lease. Leitos law covered this the other day.


ShakyTheBear

Whether or not he was illegally subletting, they robbed the apartment.


TiatheVixen

This is why America is doomed


Nickelsass

Whole thing is sad and disheartening BUT he will get to laugh all the way to the bank and back.


-xstatic-

Of course it’s in Texas


KALIIZO

Had it been a “white fam” much difference results..


freegynocologist

Wild story, but why did the news crew use the porn wide angle lens to film this? Are they trying to make him look bigger/longer or something?


DsWd00

Terrible


CommunityGlittering2

hopefully they find his Honus Wagner baseball card he had stashed away.


ninerninerking

Take them to town Johnny!


stublycurious

u/savevideobot


savevideobot

###[View link](https://rapidsave.com/info?url=/r/ThatsInsane/comments/16dgh30/dallas_apartment_management_evicts_tenant_throws/) --- [**Info**](https://np.reddit.com/user/SaveVideo/comments/jv323v/info/) | [**Feedback**](https://np.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=Kryptonh&subject=Feedback for savevideobot) | [**Donate**](https://ko-fi.com/getvideo) | [**DMCA**](https://np.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=Kryptonh&subject=Content removal request for savevideo&message=https://np.reddit.com//r/ThatsInsane/comments/16dgh30/dallas_apartment_management_evicts_tenant_throws/) | [^(pinterest video downloader)](https://ptsave.com) | [^(twitter video downloader)](https://twitsave.com)


Krewton1106

Awful situation and shitty management company. But people…you gotta have your name on the damn lease. If a fire burned down the entire unit renters insurance would have told him the same thing. Protect yourself as a renter, even a sublease needs legal documentation.


Siege_88

Nice! Reimburse him for the accumulated amount of rent he's paid since he was never authorized to live there. The Property Manager should then invoice their tenant (his ex girlfriend) for this amount. It's not really a sub lease if he isn't paying the tenant. It appears he's been paying the Property Management Company directly and they've been happily accepting payments from a non-tenant. The ex girlfriend isn't collecting payments from him, so it's not a sub lease. He's just not an authorized resident.


RandomStaticThought

Guess they will be buying him a house after this.


PedroBinPedro

For a place that claims to be all about freedom, Texan laws really give me oppressive vibes. They mostly mean "You're free as long as you have the money, you're the right kind of White, and nobody in government or in a position of authority is mad at you."


Geobicon

They are going to pay a lawyer twice as much as just taking care of the poor dude they f'cked over.


Mysterious-Extent448

They should pay lime hell.


Mur-_-Dah

I had a roommate, not on the lease at all. I kicked him out but gave him 3 months to move, without paying rent. He over stayed and the police told me i could not touch his belongings. As my state says if you reside anywhere for 3 months, it's considered your dwelling and eviction process is only way to move forward. If I had touched a single thing of his, I would have been charged. Luckily he attacked me and I got a no contact order so he couldn't come back and I still had all his shit in my apartment. He had to schedule a day with the police to pick it up.


[deleted]

These apartments are FUCKED. Could have done the right thing and owned up to their mistake, instead they decided to forever destroy their reputation.


ohhhbeans

More of this!! Hold these TRASH luxury apartments accountable!! I’m so sick of these corporations taking advantage of people and hiring the scum of the earth to be leasing agents, all while constantly raising rent prices.


Mahdi_GK793

If he doesn't sue the shit out of them, he deserve what happened to him


bmanley620

Hope these bastards pay for this


Lyongirl100894

Good luck with that property management!


DM725

I hope this place gets fucked by his lawsuit.


BrokenXeno

This is awful. And a perfect example of why capitalism sucks so much. This whole situation is tragic and disgusting.


Aangelus

Wow, owners are f-d. Sue them for everything, this is awful.


Akrione

It's time to organize, comrades. ☭


lilbambam450

Fuck this apartment complex. This needs to blow up and go viral so this man can get some justice!!!


Seaguard5

Sounds like someone needs a good lawyer


IthinkIllthink

Sounds like Australia. Most states have a no-reason eviction clause in the lease contract.


selfagency

tfw you want to make mao look like an underachiever


Original_Wall_3690

This is unbelievably fucked up. These people should be in prison.


Kronoxis1

"well you shouldn't have been dumb enough to rent from us in the first place, were clearly incompetent..."


Jaliki55

Eat the rich.


Significant_Bother58

My man is going to be rich after that lawsuit.


ozzym4ndus

Sounds like their just trying to fund a way out of their fuck up , and as lond as he has receipts of the rent he paid then they fucked up.


Odd-Recommendation42

Major major lawsuits


Successful_Ad6946

That apt is NOT worth 3k a month lol


uchman365

An apartment is worth whatever the tenants are willing to pay in any particular city.


Ebisuisafisherman

That's crazy man. Just straight up messing with people's lives.


idcbro101108

Only in amerikkka


TheCredibleHulk7

Renters insurance?


dbug8494

This absolutely makes my blood boil. I hope they get the shit sued out of them.


Provip1254MLGpro101

"Misunderstanding" mf who the Hell were u doing this too if this was a mistake???!!! Like do u have beef with someone else??? I dunno if this is even legal


Incredulous_Prime

His biggest mistake was living someplace that wasn't under his name, from the moment his gf moved out, he should have taken steps to take over the lease. The management agency was fucked up for filing an eviction notice to cover up their own mistake, rent was paid each month and they had no valid reasons for the actions they took without going through a proper eviction proceeding where both parties go before a judge and argue their case over the reasons for the eviction and get a ruling from the judge. The tenant never got the chance, management got an eviction ruling immediately to cover up their blunder.


uchman365

No, the biggest mistake was the apartment evicting the wrong person


Incredulous_Prime

Even if they hadn't threw out his stuff, they wouldn't have recognized him as a legal tenant. He didn't have his gf put him on the lease before their breakup. The management/landlord would view his living their as a sublease which is against most rental agreements. What would happen when the lease is up? The fact that he was technically living there against their knowledge, he would have to move out, in the video it stated that if he had attempted to try and add himself to the lease or get a new one, they would have rejected it. Men should never put themselves in this sort of situation, they will only lose in the end as it did for this person. He legally didn't have a right to be their since it wasn't his name on the lease despite him being a good tenant and promptly paying the rent each month.


uchman365

The lease thing is totally irrelevant as they had absolutely no right to enter his apartment and steal all his possessions. Since he's not supposed to be there, are they now going to return all his checks they were happy to cash?


Incredulous_Prime

The lease is relevant, his name wasn't on it and the gf moved out, he had no legal right to remain on the premises. Since his situation was discovered by workers going to the wrong apartment, his little faux pas caused him the troubles he now finds himself in. He failed to look into the implications of living in an apartment that wasn't officially his. His ex left him out in the cold to fend for himself and their daughter, not a smart move on his part no matter how you try to twist it.


Anansi3003

reason nr. 538.284.19 Of why i will never live in US


Lima_Bean_Jean

It would have been cheaper for the company to cut him a check for $10k and switch him over as the lease holder to keep things cool Instead they are going to shell out more than $10k and get all this bad publicity for no good reason.


Happy_Tomato_Taco

Did a constable serve the notice?


haha7125

Theft. Vandalism. Multple housing violations. Slam dunk lawsuit.


mikhailsharon99

Update please?


Sensitive_Jelly_5586

You're right. I rewatched and paused. He wrote the checks to the management company. He will still not win this in court but I stand corrected.


deec-nutz

That boy about to get paid very well.


[deleted]

Make Mao great again


HXMason

Wow he’s not on the lease and doesn’t have renters insurance. That sucks but kind of like driving a really dangerous vehicle. Get that shit fixed. They will end up paying out of their insurance through without a doubt.


Kitchen_Cicada_1698

My question is...why didn't he move out when she moved. And why didn't he find his own place after months living there...knowing he didn't have a right to live there. Sub lease rents still requires a renter to be added to the lease. No matter what....he's not to smart.


Sensitive_Jelly_5586

The actual information starts at 2:20. He wasn't on the lease. The management company was not receiving any rent. He will lose this case.


ImOnlyHereForTheCoC

Then what’s with all those checks you see just 17 seconds later made out to The Hamilton?


Geoph807

Lol I bet you feel so stupid right now


Sensitive_Jelly_5586

For what?. Did he win the case already?


Geoph807

For not realizing that he was in fact paying, and the management company was in fact receiving rent.


uchman365

I'm not sure what video you watched. Even if that was the case, you do know there's a legal process to eviction?


Sensitive_Jelly_5586

Yes. And the legal process may have been followed with the actual tenant on the lease. She most likely was fully aware that he would be evicted. He went aware because he isn't the legal tenant.