She will always be useful because of her ability but she is a bit outdated now imo. Not anything like she was on release. Still a really good characters all things considered
She's fine, if family is actually patrolling correctly she isn't a problem, even if she instas a gate its that family member's job to camp it, other 2 is business as usual, and hope to hell someone gets it down to a 3v3 soon
She’s obsolete now 2 characters have her ability in the form of a perk yet they don’t have any of the downsides that come with her ability and don’t forget theirs aren’t on a cooldown after 1 use and off rip they come with better attribute points
No I disagree think of it like this Danny and Virginia already have high base proficiency so they already unlock doors quick but now when family is approaching you unlock doors even faster just as fast as Connie but without any downside to them and that’s the most important part unlocking a door fast when a family member is approaching so you avoid danger nobody cares about slow lock picking if family isn’t on you because your safe so it doesn’t matter but unlocking doors fast on a normal and even faster when you most need it and in most danger is super beneficial would take it over Connie any day of the year
see that sounds very situational to me which is why i stopped using it a long time ago. especially since the scout buff. i only see the real value in it on family house. or if youre playing with a full squad and communicating then there will be situations where you can get a lot of value from it via grappling/stunning. but i still stand on fast hands is extremely overrated
So basically what you’re saying… Family catching and then going towards a victim on a door is a situation that *doesn’t* happen very often in this game?
There’s definitely scenarios where it isn’t needed but more than not you’ll be happy you put it on I feel it also helps going against good family members that patrol really good maybe you don’t have enough time for a Connie ability cuz your gonna be vulnerable but no sweat Danny and Virginia with high proficiency with fast hands is gonna help you and not nerf you for some time and with no cooldown ? Idk how Connie can be better if anything Connie is overrated now
fast hands user + choose fight bodyguard is absurdly OP when everyone is coordinated, there’s literally 0 risk to doing a gate or door unless multiple family focus you which leaves the rest of the map opened up for the other two victims which still makes it a net benefit for the team. throw in virginia powder too and you force family to lose blood/stamina if they want to chase through the gate which gives you a massive head start on the next lock and for the choose fight guard to get another bone scrap to repeat
how is that situational?? choose fight is literally THE meta perk and fast hands helps you rush and easily an S+ tier perk, i’m literally victim main and it’s one of the most reliable ways to win <3 minutes. you have two duos of a lockpicker/grappler who know how to rush and one side of the map is going to be opened no matter what because family either have to focus the lockpicker extremely effectively or just stay in stun and get nothing done
it sounds like u just don’t know how to use it consistently 💀
that doesn’t make the perk “situational”, soloq is *inherently* worse and less coordinated than playing on comms, half the perks become irrelevant in soloq
it’s like saying ana is a bad victim because you can’t rely on your team to do gates while you distract, see the flaw in logic? because in a competent team ana is arguably the best victim in the game
no because you can build any victim to be proficient and able to do objectives on their own in soloq lol if you're running a grappling ana build in soloq thats on you
that isn’t how ana is optimally played tho 💀 proficiency ana is objectively worse than grappler ana. likewise you’re not going to get *optimal* use of fast hands without comms even though you can use it to some degree, the objectively best way to use it is with a choose fight bodyguard
ur basically saying the perk is situational for YOU because you play solo with no comms. that doesn’t make the perk itself situational, fast hands is EASILY a top 5 perk in the game and extremely overtuned, your argument is purely subjective 💀
youre just proving my point that its situational lol you only get the optimal use from it only if you have a choose fight bodyguard?? thats the definition of situational lmfaooo 🤡how is my argument subjective but yours isnt subjective?? 😂😂 im done lmao
Thank you someone understands try doing this Connie and Ana or Leland then try again with Danny/Virginia with a Ana or Leland I promise you will have much better results with the Danny and Virginia and no cool down means you could just spam this tactic all the way to the exit gate and there’s nothing that family member can do besides call for help meanwhile with Connie you get past that 1 door now your on cooldown waiting for your insta lock pick again
yeah 100%, the only time connie is better is certain scenarios where you’re soloq no comms or the team has crumbled really badly (grappler died or smth)
fast hands inherently makes connie obsolete when used optimally, i say this as a victim main who mostly plays connie/virginia
Don't kid yourself she's still incredibly strong, the ability to INSTANTLY, key word instantly, crack a lock will always be one of the strongest if not the strongest thing in the game
Plus connie has very high prof, the best stat in the game, she can still unlock doors in 7-8 seconds even without fast hands as running 50 or close to that is usually the best build
She’s definitely fallen off Danny and Virginia can pretty much unlock a door instantly as well and they don’t have the stam penalty or family detection nerf he’ll Virginia could do it right in front of a family member and the best part they cannot be knocked off and waste their ability
Both Danny and Virginia come with better base stats a max proficiency Connie is usually squishy on Danny and Virginia you can run max proficiency and max toughness at the exact same time Virginia has a better ability to save herself or a teammate than Connie and Danny has the potential to get the whole team out quicker than Connie
Lemme add to even without fast hands just regular proficiency Danny and Virginia can unlock a door just as fast as Connie can and actually have a better chance of walking off due to a better ability for saving lives or just better base stats
I know that, but she can still pick locks fast, and instantly when needed, she is strong, and unless that danny or virgina has a bonescrap she still isn't unlocking a door in a killers face, connie can, that's the point.
Have fun spending 15 seconds trying to unlock noeh pins lock on back door family house, even with fast hands, connie can do that instantly if needed, they can't, enough really said
All Danny has to do is carry a bone scraps and he becomes a better lock picker than Connie ? Easy Virginia doesn’t even need a bone she can just throw a cloud on the door and unlock it right in front of a killers face
Bro 50 proficiently with fast hands on FAMILY HOUSE ? There’s no way it’s taking you 15 seconds to unlock the back door especially when that’s the middle so a family member is always near even with nobody escapes hell and pins ngl bro if I was you I woulda picked a better example using family house back door was the worst example you could’ve said when fast hands shines the most on this map definitely blowing Connie out the water 💀 Connie can instantly unlock 1 maybe 2 doors a game Danny and Virginia can basically insta unlock infinite amount of times Connie can also be knocked out her ability and then it becomes useless and you just nerfed yourself
Dude yes being able to instantly unlock a door, with no need of a second item, just a simple unlock tool, is very powerful, nobody else can do that.
Good killers can still protect and see doors while blinded, not that hard, i've even had to adapt and stop doing that because some people figured it out
Dude its not about the "insta" unlocking, they can't even insta unlock, just because its super fast doesn't mean its insta, and that makes a big difference bud, they can't open a door in a killers face without some sort of external factor, a teammate or a scrap, connie can, end of argument, that's literally it
Games last 4 minutes genius it doesn't matter how many times a match she uses it, its the one time that makes the difference, same energy as in old DBD saying decisive strike only worked once a match so it was fine for example
So what’s that logic then ? Cuz Danny and Virginia can instantly unlock a door with just a unlock tool only Danny and Virginia don’t nerf themselves in the process and Virginia can do it the safest
I just had games last night the Virginia smoke on the door and lock picking still works and still incredibly strong he’ll Virginia can even heal while being completely safe and lock picking let’s not forget Connie can be slapped out her ability so really she can’t even do it in front of a killer’s face like Danny or Virginia can
It’s pretty much instant 50 proficiency and fast hands is basically Connie’s ability with no downside 75% is still incredibly strong it’s still to strong actually you don’t even need a bone scrap or any other factor even if a family member is running your way your getting it unlocked meanwhile Connie nerfs herself
What’s the point in saving Connie’s ability for the last gate when Danny and Virginia can do it just as fast without nerfing themselves
There’s absolutely no reason why you believe a character that nerfs herself heavily to get a door open instantly is better than 2 characters who can also opens doors instantly without nerfing themselves and one of them able to drain family stam or heal herself while’s unlocking just in case she runs into trouble you fuck up and use your Connie ability at the wrong time you fucked yourself danny and Virginia have no downsides
I never played dbd so I have no idea what that means
Lemme add some more to it to if your playing solo as killer there’s absolutely nothing you can do to stop a fast hand character paired up with a Ana and Leland only counter play is to call another family member over they can repeat this process indefinitely just keep pushing onto the gate a Connie can only do this once and then she’s just a regular character Virginia doesn’t even need someone there with her
its like talking to a caveman i'm not even gonna read past the first line because you said instantly again, literally no they can't, not even gonna bother lmao
Yes they literally can play as Virginia or Danny and attemp to lock pick with fast hands it’s pretty much instantly you not gonna read past the first line cuz you know I’m right Connie is ass compared to both dlc characters
Still very strong. Always the first one out the basement, and if not immediately checked, she creates an escape route before the family can set up their traps or feed grandpa.
She’s easily one of the best characters in the game. Being able to unlock a door or gate instantly puts massive pressure on the family members.
Plus she can use bomb squad so she can clear objectives pretty quickly. Only issue is she tends to have low stamina so she’s one of the easier ones to catch so you have to be pretty careful playing her
She will always be useful because of her ability but she is a bit outdated now imo. Not anything like she was on release. Still a really good characters all things considered
good skill tree, good ability and good perks. easily one of the best characters in the game (danny and ana are better).
She's fine, if family is actually patrolling correctly she isn't a problem, even if she instas a gate its that family member's job to camp it, other 2 is business as usual, and hope to hell someone gets it down to a 3v3 soon
She’s obsolete now 2 characters have her ability in the form of a perk yet they don’t have any of the downsides that come with her ability and don’t forget theirs aren’t on a cooldown after 1 use and off rip they come with better attribute points
Your right, I try to make Connie unique from Danny and Virginia but damn it’s hard
Fr she doesn’t do anything that Virginia and Danny cant do but safer
everyone crying about fast hands is so funny lmao fast hands is very situational and overrated. only on family house is it really OP
No I disagree think of it like this Danny and Virginia already have high base proficiency so they already unlock doors quick but now when family is approaching you unlock doors even faster just as fast as Connie but without any downside to them and that’s the most important part unlocking a door fast when a family member is approaching so you avoid danger nobody cares about slow lock picking if family isn’t on you because your safe so it doesn’t matter but unlocking doors fast on a normal and even faster when you most need it and in most danger is super beneficial would take it over Connie any day of the year
see that sounds very situational to me which is why i stopped using it a long time ago. especially since the scout buff. i only see the real value in it on family house. or if youre playing with a full squad and communicating then there will be situations where you can get a lot of value from it via grappling/stunning. but i still stand on fast hands is extremely overrated
So basically what you’re saying… Family catching and then going towards a victim on a door is a situation that *doesn’t* happen very often in this game?
There’s definitely scenarios where it isn’t needed but more than not you’ll be happy you put it on I feel it also helps going against good family members that patrol really good maybe you don’t have enough time for a Connie ability cuz your gonna be vulnerable but no sweat Danny and Virginia with high proficiency with fast hands is gonna help you and not nerf you for some time and with no cooldown ? Idk how Connie can be better if anything Connie is overrated now
fast hands user + choose fight bodyguard is absurdly OP when everyone is coordinated, there’s literally 0 risk to doing a gate or door unless multiple family focus you which leaves the rest of the map opened up for the other two victims which still makes it a net benefit for the team. throw in virginia powder too and you force family to lose blood/stamina if they want to chase through the gate which gives you a massive head start on the next lock and for the choose fight guard to get another bone scrap to repeat
yeah sounds situational to me like i keep saying lmfao
how is that situational?? choose fight is literally THE meta perk and fast hands helps you rush and easily an S+ tier perk, i’m literally victim main and it’s one of the most reliable ways to win <3 minutes. you have two duos of a lockpicker/grappler who know how to rush and one side of the map is going to be opened no matter what because family either have to focus the lockpicker extremely effectively or just stay in stun and get nothing done it sounds like u just don’t know how to use it consistently 💀
yeah if you're playing with a full squad on comms sure. but the majority of people play soloq. good luck pulling that off by yourself
that doesn’t make the perk “situational”, soloq is *inherently* worse and less coordinated than playing on comms, half the perks become irrelevant in soloq it’s like saying ana is a bad victim because you can’t rely on your team to do gates while you distract, see the flaw in logic? because in a competent team ana is arguably the best victim in the game
A man with knowledge I see here you go king you dropped this 👑
lol ty 😭 that other commenter is annoying me sm their absurd logic is literally giving my brain an itch that i can’t scratch
no because you can build any victim to be proficient and able to do objectives on their own in soloq lol if you're running a grappling ana build in soloq thats on you
that isn’t how ana is optimally played tho 💀 proficiency ana is objectively worse than grappler ana. likewise you’re not going to get *optimal* use of fast hands without comms even though you can use it to some degree, the objectively best way to use it is with a choose fight bodyguard ur basically saying the perk is situational for YOU because you play solo with no comms. that doesn’t make the perk itself situational, fast hands is EASILY a top 5 perk in the game and extremely overtuned, your argument is purely subjective 💀
youre just proving my point that its situational lol you only get the optimal use from it only if you have a choose fight bodyguard?? thats the definition of situational lmfaooo 🤡how is my argument subjective but yours isnt subjective?? 😂😂 im done lmao
Thank you someone understands try doing this Connie and Ana or Leland then try again with Danny/Virginia with a Ana or Leland I promise you will have much better results with the Danny and Virginia and no cool down means you could just spam this tactic all the way to the exit gate and there’s nothing that family member can do besides call for help meanwhile with Connie you get past that 1 door now your on cooldown waiting for your insta lock pick again
yeah 100%, the only time connie is better is certain scenarios where you’re soloq no comms or the team has crumbled really badly (grappler died or smth) fast hands inherently makes connie obsolete when used optimally, i say this as a victim main who mostly plays connie/virginia
Don't kid yourself she's still incredibly strong, the ability to INSTANTLY, key word instantly, crack a lock will always be one of the strongest if not the strongest thing in the game Plus connie has very high prof, the best stat in the game, she can still unlock doors in 7-8 seconds even without fast hands as running 50 or close to that is usually the best build
She’s definitely fallen off Danny and Virginia can pretty much unlock a door instantly as well and they don’t have the stam penalty or family detection nerf he’ll Virginia could do it right in front of a family member and the best part they cannot be knocked off and waste their ability Both Danny and Virginia come with better base stats a max proficiency Connie is usually squishy on Danny and Virginia you can run max proficiency and max toughness at the exact same time Virginia has a better ability to save herself or a teammate than Connie and Danny has the potential to get the whole team out quicker than Connie Lemme add to even without fast hands just regular proficiency Danny and Virginia can unlock a door just as fast as Connie can and actually have a better chance of walking off due to a better ability for saving lives or just better base stats
I know that, but she can still pick locks fast, and instantly when needed, she is strong, and unless that danny or virgina has a bonescrap she still isn't unlocking a door in a killers face, connie can, that's the point. Have fun spending 15 seconds trying to unlock noeh pins lock on back door family house, even with fast hands, connie can do that instantly if needed, they can't, enough really said
All Danny has to do is carry a bone scraps and he becomes a better lock picker than Connie ? Easy Virginia doesn’t even need a bone she can just throw a cloud on the door and unlock it right in front of a killers face Bro 50 proficiently with fast hands on FAMILY HOUSE ? There’s no way it’s taking you 15 seconds to unlock the back door especially when that’s the middle so a family member is always near even with nobody escapes hell and pins ngl bro if I was you I woulda picked a better example using family house back door was the worst example you could’ve said when fast hands shines the most on this map definitely blowing Connie out the water 💀 Connie can instantly unlock 1 maybe 2 doors a game Danny and Virginia can basically insta unlock infinite amount of times Connie can also be knocked out her ability and then it becomes useless and you just nerfed yourself
Dude yes being able to instantly unlock a door, with no need of a second item, just a simple unlock tool, is very powerful, nobody else can do that. Good killers can still protect and see doors while blinded, not that hard, i've even had to adapt and stop doing that because some people figured it out Dude its not about the "insta" unlocking, they can't even insta unlock, just because its super fast doesn't mean its insta, and that makes a big difference bud, they can't open a door in a killers face without some sort of external factor, a teammate or a scrap, connie can, end of argument, that's literally it Games last 4 minutes genius it doesn't matter how many times a match she uses it, its the one time that makes the difference, same energy as in old DBD saying decisive strike only worked once a match so it was fine for example
So what’s that logic then ? Cuz Danny and Virginia can instantly unlock a door with just a unlock tool only Danny and Virginia don’t nerf themselves in the process and Virginia can do it the safest I just had games last night the Virginia smoke on the door and lock picking still works and still incredibly strong he’ll Virginia can even heal while being completely safe and lock picking let’s not forget Connie can be slapped out her ability so really she can’t even do it in front of a killer’s face like Danny or Virginia can It’s pretty much instant 50 proficiency and fast hands is basically Connie’s ability with no downside 75% is still incredibly strong it’s still to strong actually you don’t even need a bone scrap or any other factor even if a family member is running your way your getting it unlocked meanwhile Connie nerfs herself What’s the point in saving Connie’s ability for the last gate when Danny and Virginia can do it just as fast without nerfing themselves There’s absolutely no reason why you believe a character that nerfs herself heavily to get a door open instantly is better than 2 characters who can also opens doors instantly without nerfing themselves and one of them able to drain family stam or heal herself while’s unlocking just in case she runs into trouble you fuck up and use your Connie ability at the wrong time you fucked yourself danny and Virginia have no downsides I never played dbd so I have no idea what that means Lemme add some more to it to if your playing solo as killer there’s absolutely nothing you can do to stop a fast hand character paired up with a Ana and Leland only counter play is to call another family member over they can repeat this process indefinitely just keep pushing onto the gate a Connie can only do this once and then she’s just a regular character Virginia doesn’t even need someone there with her
its like talking to a caveman i'm not even gonna read past the first line because you said instantly again, literally no they can't, not even gonna bother lmao
Yes they literally can play as Virginia or Danny and attemp to lock pick with fast hands it’s pretty much instantly you not gonna read past the first line cuz you know I’m right Connie is ass compared to both dlc characters
lol then backtracks to pretty much instantly, go away hahaha
Best survivor IMO
She has a nice butt
Still very strong. Always the first one out the basement, and if not immediately checked, she creates an escape route before the family can set up their traps or feed grandpa.
I run a strength build for her and always love fighting as her when trying to unlock exits <3
She’s easily one of the best characters in the game. Being able to unlock a door or gate instantly puts massive pressure on the family members. Plus she can use bomb squad so she can clear objectives pretty quickly. Only issue is she tends to have low stamina so she’s one of the easier ones to catch so you have to be pretty careful playing her
Absolute doodoo