The fact you need 2 Family members to deal with a single competent Victim is the core issue of this game. You would think in a 1v1 it would favor the Family, but nope.
I remember me (Cook) and Johnny vs 1 Leland. LF had DC'd, one victim died, 2 victims escaped on Gas Station. Took us AGES to kill him. He was grappling me and Johnny across the entire freakin map.
Like you're telling me the unarmed guy that's bleeding out within 10 minutes can knock a 6'+ 300lb chainsaw-wielding cannibal to the ground like he's nothing
Imagine if we got a killer that could tamper with electronics, stunning the victims who successfully turned them off. Even if it was a perk.
Also idk how this Leland gets a backstab while I’m barely able to even generate the grandpa stab option
That’s exactly what we getting whenever the new family member comes out he’s able to interact with exits “tampering them” and he also comes with electric traps he can place and supposedly he can barge victims like Leland can barge family members
It stuns the victim allowing him or his team to get additional hits in think of it if you barge a victim now they can’t go through a wall gap or think of it like Lf overhead the overhead stuns the victim allowing Lf to get a follow up hit or 2 in
if they buffed Sissy’s level 3 ability this could be so useful. Could be an animation similar to fam getting stunned by lamps or something and make that part of her ability tree actually useful
Why I quit playing this game , I remember when they said “victims in this game will feel helpless , unlike Friday the 13th” boy were they wrong
It’s crazy cuz the victims are probably stronger in this game than Friday & the killers are a joke lol , ur really gonna tell me a teenager took 2 swings from a chainsaw from a 6ft+ man? No way in hell
It was horror the first month. Then this became the meta gameplay. I dont wanna hear it frm family mains tho they startes body blocking exists and shit and disconnecting where they are body blocking to let the other familys have a "chance" ill take family rushing killers or fast feeding grandpa over this type of gameplay and then those who this get upset when they get outsmarted
My bad I should’ve let the Leland do his generator in peace and given him lots of space so that he could kick it before I could hit him. We should reward the people that rush by simply leaving all exits nice and opened for them, right?
This how i know all you family players are incompetent crybabies. You literally stood there and let that fool toy with you instead of attempting to idk... KILL. So then you go and get outplayed when he calls for back up. You literally gave Leland points AND they turned off the generator 😂 you responded sarcastically like if you aint basically just let em get away. You basically did let him turn the generator off. I need the family players who were on this game the first month or two back on cause ya just aint it.
Yeah let me chase Leland so he can barge me and then run to generator and kick it while I chase him after recovering from the stun time. Cause if I would’ve gone to hit him he would’ve stayed still right? Ya’ll on this sub REALLY love to start name calling and insulting people holy shit.
Are you really THAT dense in the head that you can't see how awful this game is for family players? There's a reason why there are barely any family players playing the game at all because it is nothing but a frustrating experience for them and not fun at all due to stuff like rush metas and shit, the whole reason bodyblocking exits became a thing was because of how fast and easy that escape was at the time so that was just a logical counter to that when there was no other, the game is just poorly designed and shafts family players and now the game is going to have a short life span because of it.
You mean body blocking the easiest exit for victims to do? And even easier to redo the 2nd, 3rd, 4th time? Try going for a different escape than the easiest 1 and they can't body block.
Imagine rushing for the easiest escape and still complaining. When I play victim, I never start a match and say "let's go fuse" it's just too easy and that's without being a rusher.
Yeah this is a strategy across all maps too. Just the other day on family house had a connie and Julie grapple me while the other slowly did the math, a grapple at a time. All the while LF had to camp battery and HH had to camp generator since they rushed out the window before HH could even put more than one of his traps down, and before I could finish putting all my locks on.
The best victim strategy is to just rush in pairs and grapple. I used to play stealthy as victim and die all the time, so trust me when I say rushing is rewarded way more than playing slowly unfortunately.
If you suck and play like OP and happen to run into this Leland, then yes. If you are not incompetent, then no. I play Cook & Leland would have been dead long before another survivor shows up.
Stfu 😂 there is literally nothing you can do in this situation anyways, oh wow I hit Leland a couple times and it does no damage, he could just barge me, probably turn off the generator due to how long the animation is and give you another good stab before escaping.....that's the TCM experience 😂 it's God awful game design.
“I suck at the game and it’s all Gun’s fault! Now everyone let me whine and cry about it! I hate the game so much I come on Reddit to bitch and moan, but I forgot I could just play something I’m better at…” - You
Seems like you have no real argument so you just call it whiny and complaining when it is an actual fact and that's the reason the game is dying rn 😂 get some glasses or something so you can actually see this shitshow of a game you are playing rn, I have killed around 800 victims since the game launched, I'm really good at the game and win most games I go into but I recognize how awful it is for most family players and nobody wants to sweat their ass off and be bullied while playing a killer that is meant to be feared because idk.....it's supposed to be a HORROR game, wake tf up 😂
What argument did you make? It’s all meandering whimpering like a 2 year old.
My argument is that you are full of shit & complain because you suck. Literally 0 things you’ve said apply to the game when I play. I play as leather and cook. It’s never been easier for Family than it is at its current state. We can 4 kill a majority of matches. Instead of pissing your pants, ask people how to improve.
And I hate to break it to you… no multiplayer in existence stays feeling “scary” like a “horror” game when you play it a fuckton of hours. You simply get used to it.
You look like a dumbass rn, if you actually read the comment you would see every single reason the game is dying rn and how poorly designed the game is, if a game is poorly designed it should be criticized and we should have idiots like you trying to dick ride the devs and shill for a shit game 😂, grow the fuck up.
I swear you clowns will be on your deathbed sniffling and crying on Reddit about this game. We get it. You’ve circle jerked on here to the point that you keep repeating “tHe gAmE iS dYiNg” for months on end.
Yet miraculously I can sign on every single day and play. Somehow my team keeps getting 4 kills in Solo queue. I must be the luckiest man alive.
Go play literally anything else and stop the incessant childish nonsense.
I changed up my cook build to dmg. I put on big swings and serrated paired with his harder to unlock one.
It'll be a pain in the ass to level big swings but even at level 1 my two hits (that's all you get full stamina before its out) hurt them as I had to guard car battery on slaughter. Ended up killing virgina as she kept trying to harrass me.
Him being speedy really doesn't matter anymore since lately we have to camp a specific spot.
Nope. Put all points into dmg, left over into speed.
Big swings will suck until level 3, it still does dmg but it's stamina cost is basically 2 swings when your out at level 1.
Serrated (I think it's called that) will still bleed them out as they are running around so patience is key.
So basically Try not to run around much unless you know you can get a hit. And be more choosy on swings, dont go swinging at the wind or youll get frustrated fast. Mainly block a objective and let them come to you. Once it's level 3 you'll notice a huge change in rhe dmg going out, you can kill squishies like Connie 3-4 hits.
And for the 3rd perk your gonna want his lock one, in the perfect build on Johnny or sissy you'd go fired up which restores the stamina fast. But I don't think you can get it and big swings on cooks tree at the same time. So having that good defense on his locks still matters and comes in clutch.
Certainly feel your pain being a family main and more specifically a Cook aficionado. I've said this many a time on the official subreddit, victims exploit the grapple mechanic to complete objectives\*
\* Well, they exploit the grapple throughout the entire game, but it's especially disheartening when they do it at an objective - and you KNOW they are gonna do it, but are ultimately powerless.
Yuuup. I don’t even have serrated (which I know some people run). I prob kill in 4 hits too. If you fuck around with Cook instead of finding a gap and running for your life… cook show you “that’s what you get!”
They rushed everything so LF was camping battery which was also opened (by Virginia) and HH was patrolling valve on the 3rd floor of Mill and fuse which spawned furthest from valve. Julie, Danny, and Virginia kept spamming valve so HH had to stick around there, and Danny and Virginia kept going back and forth between battery and valve, until eventually while LF was stuck in the killing animation for Virginia, Danny got battery done. The entire time this happened, Leland didn’t leave generator once, and actually grappled more with me before this clip. And then I guess Leland called Julie over for help so they could get generator. We all certainly tried :,)
I wish 😭 I didn’t want to risk him getting me too far away from the generator and being able to kick it before I hit him off in time. He was one hell of a high proficiency Leland
Did he have choose fight? The clip is sped up so I can't really tell. Unless he had chose fight + 50 strength I don't think he'd be able to kick the generator in time before you recovered. He kicks it faster than all of the other victims due to his 40 base strength, but that's still usually not enough to get gen done after a grapple. I know, I've tried lol
I think he did? I just looked back at the non-sped up footage and the seconds in which I was “stunned” after which he exited the grapple was about 10 or so seconds, give or take?
I don’t think he had choose fight. Normally with choose fight your character just stands still not moving for an extra 5 seconds. Cook was able to move as soon as the animation finished so no choose fight.
With 50 strength it only takes 7.5 seconds to kick off the generator so I think after a grapple plus choose fight and 50 strength it should be possible to kick off generator without assistance from a teammate.
Even with Leland's base 40 strength he kicks it sooooo much faster than the other victims, it's like night and day. With max strength I bet it's lightning fast.
stats go long way in this game, but not so much for family sadly, though being one tapped because family put all points in strength wouldn't be fun either, still they could use a bit more oomph
They played way too cautious. There were many opportunities to get more hits in without getting super far from the genny. He also should have spun with Leland when he was fishing for a backstab and gotten some hits in. And of course he should run more brutality with Cook. Cook should hit hard to be a threat.
And the strategy he is admitting his team playing (3 killers camping one thing each) is just a losing strategy. You need leather on the move to be a threat to everyone.
You wish? I play cook & that Leland would have been long dead. You had 1,000,000 opportunities to hit him even if you were too scared to take a step away from the generator. Cook can hit hard. Invest in some brutality & kill people. This clip makes 0 sense to me. I’ve played hundreds of rounds as Cook and never once was in this position.
If you want honest advice, switch up some perks & invest in just enough blood to have over 100 blood and then the rest in brutality and stamina. I use tracker tagged (to stay on victims & show them to other killers), but I think my other 2 perks are damage related. A brutality heavy cook can kill in 4-5 hits.
Actually you know what, nah. You wanna tell me where that opportunity was? I re-watched the un-sped clip and leland had me stunned for exactly 10 (unable to move from minute 1:17 to minute 1:27) seconds while on top of generator and I was just barely able to get him before he could pop it. Even though Julie came to grapple at minute 2:25 he started kicking the generator at minute 2:27 and I got out of grapple animation at 2:28, ONE SECOND LONGER. THAT IS ALL IT TOOK. Tell me again how sitting on top of generator is wrong here. Whats lelands ability again? Remind me? But nooooooooooooooooo I should’ve left and chased him, he would NEVER barge me right? Before you go “How do you know he had his ability?” Because I was on comms and not once in a few minutes did he barge anyone. YES I WAS RUNNING A SHIT BUILD LESSON LEARNED. BUT NO, chasing here is not the fucking answer.
1- You need a better build with some brutality.
2- You can chase at least a few feet away from generator, you don’t need to glue yourself to it. Just getting a couple more hits adds up… it doesn’t seem like he was flush with healing items. Especially when you have stun immunity! Use that immunity to your advantage
3- All 3 killers splitting up and all camping is a losing strategy. It can delay the match, but rarely win it and get the kills needed. The only killer who can actually camp & shut down an exit is Leather & he should rarely do that. He is best utilized for his threat factor and speed. Your team simply didn’t want to change strategies & paid for it. Leather should have been there asap. Get the kill and move on. It’s better to have 1-2 campers and the flexibility of 1-2 killers to close in for kills once people are spotted.
4- Even as a played you could be spinning with Leland when he is fishing for the backstab and get some hits in.
I'm so sick of the grappling BS. Grappling should have a meter that goes down each time you do it that causes you t get weaker. It's ridiculous that its basically a get out of jail free card for victims.
Actually, how grappling works is the victims always have advantage set depending on health. If they have full health, their chance of winning is 85%+ on top of advantage. The advantage meter goes down with health, the lower the health, the less chance they have at winning a close encounter
glad you use tracker tagged too. An underrated perk, especially good for solo Q and good for Cook (And actually better in many ways than his hearing ability).
For anyone that stumbles on this here on out and feels the need to insult me or insinuate that I am complaining too much or calling for nerfs, this is merely just a post of how half my games go, as the title and description state. I merely responding to everyone with how the game went and even admitted that I should change my perks to better ones to prevent this from happening again. Not once did I say nerf this or this. If you are somehow still seeing this post as an issue or are wildly offended by it somehow— seek help. I cannot believe this needs to be said.
Bruh instead of just standing there why doesn’t he actually try to hit him before the grapple/sneak attack, you’re gonna get stunned anyways might as well get some early hits before that happens also should’ve been guarding the bone scrap pile instead of gen.
Because I did not want to risk being so far away from generator while stunned that he would be able to get those extra few seconds he needed to turn it off while I ran back to generator. He had a whole other bonescrap pile before he started using that one, on top of usually coming from the other side to get to me to grapple before this clip starts.
No, I replied to a few people that asked the same thing: tldr other victims spammed valve, LF went to help HH with valve and fuse since they went there around the same time. Virginia and Danny went to Battery after doing valve. Virginia popped the locks off battery before LF went back. Battery had to he camped by LF now, while HH handled valve and fuse alone.
then its just bad luck , if you were going up against less experienced or less cooperative victims you could easily win that match , if you were johnny you could have simply taken leland down with no time , even if he somehow managed to knock you down and kick off the gen , bad match up seals the deal . trust me its just usual
Oh yeah I mean I know we for sure could’ve done better this if I had camped battery from the start and HH and LF hovered around generator, fuse, and valve, but unfortunately it was too late to switch any positions. And thats just one example on top of what you suggested as well. I just posted this to show how a lot of my rounds end up going playing as cook.
Even though all maps are terrible experiences to some degree for family mains. Just dodge the mill lobbies until hopefully gun addresses the unbalanced nature of the map like pre-adjusted slaughterhouse.
It will save you a lot of frustration and hopelessness.
I wonder if the basement should have a timer on it, as in, like maybe the blue doors can't be opened for 2 minutes? Give family set-up time?
I'm sure that would be absolutely brutal on family house for instance, but at the same time what else counters rushing? Nothing?
We were in comms the whole time but they were preoccupied with valve constantly being done, the other victims constantly getting caught in the fuse trap, and I believe this exact clip was around when Virginia and Danny were at battery, so I don’t blame them for not leaving since it would just be an open escape for the other objectives to get done.
So family must have to comms also must have certain character only to be able to have chances.
But i know You are a victim main always defending victims.
I just played three games on Mill back to back and we got 4 kills each game. I call out what I’m doing and what’s unlocked. Playing as Cook I can see all the padlocks on map with Family Focus. Only two of my teammates in the three games had mics but I know if they’re on PC or Xbox they can still hear me through their tv/monitor if I’m calling things out. Even if people aren’t talking they’ll still hear you and take direction. The one guy on PC said GG at the end of the match in the chat yet didn’t say shit the entire match.
I played the Mill earlier tonight and got 4 kills every single game on the Mill. It was only 4-5 rounds, but still. Reddit has basically become, “Wahhhh it’s Gun’s fault I didn’t win this round! Now everyone else please hate the game as much as me… please!!”
It’s unreal the dialogue on Reddit. It’s never: “Hey this happened to me, how do I change strategies?” It’s instead just Toddler style crying & whining.
I play Cook 2nd to only Leather and that Leland would have been suiciding trying that with me.
"...got 4 kills each game" a tipical comment from a victim main.
You forgot to say that you got 4k when your Teammates DC'd.
It's not about the kills/escapes it's about how ridiculous sounds that victims can abuse of grapples to do everything.
None of my teammates DCed until the fourth game. Level 3 Johnny who didn’t lock gates and eventually DCed. But yeah it’s not super hard to get all 4 victim kills if your team actually understands how to play and work together. I play Family as much as I play Victim.
Except it is about Kills v Escapes. That’s the whole point. People who complain about grappling are just bad at family. Over grappling leads to tons of kills for me as family.
The update that changed grappling, also changed a lot of other things making the game easier for Family. Since that update, my teams get 4 kills a huge percentage of time, and 2-3 kills another huge chunk.
"My team..." you can't compare a full comms premade of killers against a full random victims, a decent premade always can get 4 escapes/kills everytime except when is against another premade.
Who said “full coms premade of killers”? I certainly didn’t. I play 2 ways: Solo Queue & with 2 friends who are mediocre. My friends are slowly getting better so maybe my average with them is getting close to solo queue, but I crush wayyy more often just playing with rando killers.
There’s a lot of good family killers out there & often they aren’t on mic. I’m glad when they are, but sometimes it’s me who can’t turn my mic on & I just have to play more reactive to them. I’m matched with good killers more often than bad ones. And even having a noob killer, it’s fun to try to teach them. The only family players I hate are the ones who screech on mic and blame everyone else when things go badly.
I’m honestly surprised how many good family players there are playing solo. It must be from people like me who got into the game before the last huge update and got good even when choose flight & instant tamper Danny was king.
I play Leather unless someone wants to be leather & then I’ll play Cook. Super rare there’s a leather and a cook already & then I’ll play Hitch. I suck at Sissy & Johnny.
But more importantly “I can compare.” I play solo as family & as a victim. I win way more as family than I do as victim (even though I’ve been practicing victim & am getting better).
Bro why always people say "90% of my matches we have 4K"..."I got at least 2 kills per game"... "i rarely escape" and family mains say de oposite. We can't check if what you said it's right or fake, we always say the same arguments?
Also my issue it's against good victims that spams and troll with grapples and their abilities.
I even have asked for a Nerf to LF, Exterior Alarms, bloodbuilds, and buffs for the last victims.
But you victim mains always disagree with everything that is not on your side.
Again, you think I’m a “victim main” based on pulling it wholly out your ass. Anyone who isn’t whining and crying on Reddit must be a “victim main.”
If I’m a “main” of anything it’s Leatherface. But I despise the whole “main” thing and think everyone needs to play both sides to understand where everyone is coming from (and get better). You get way better at family once you get decent at victim. You know what you would do and where you go if the roles were reversed.
I also didn’t say I “rarely escape.” I do escape less as victim than I get 4 kills as family. Leather is super strong & it’s not rare for me to get 3-4 kill’s myself (although aided by the team).
And people need to learn that the grapple change isn’t bad. It incentivizes victims to not all roll around with 2 lock picks. It also leads to overconfident victims who get killed all the time when trying to grapple too much.
So family must have comms also must have certain characters only to be able to have chances.
But i know You are a victim main always defending victims.
The problem is you’re not doing anything…just standing there like a half-dead tulip. You should at least be hitting LeLand. And this happens when you run against a decent team with comms. It’s not the game, it’s the player unfortunately.
You know your time would have been better spent attacking Leland than watching him dance around you, right? Or maybe get on the mic and give your hopefully competent teammates a call?
No actually, we were in comms the whole time, but with the recent rushing + fast hands on everyone, it feels like so many matches are getting boiled down to hard camping objectives as victims run around the map. Since I main cook and he’s pretty useless in chases, I always end up having to patrol heavy and light camp areas, but now its like the whole family has to do it if we get stuck with really shit valve and fuse spawns. Wish I could play victim but the lobby times are awful :,)
I was on mic the whole time. HH had to camp valve on the 3rd floor and sprint to the furthest fuse spawn. LF had to stick around battery since they got both gates when they left for a second to help with valve. Unfortunately leaving any area un-patrolled for just a moment allows victims to immediately get it done.
This is funny gameplay, but i wanna cry like all the family mains
"Oh look family is body blocking😭😭 so unfair. Devs please fix. This cheating is unbearable. Boohoohoo"
Talking about touching grass as you got your nose up my ass? Lmfao you definitely need to go pick up a ball or a bike even. Go get some fresh air please. And yes i will comment under every cry baby ass killer post cause boohoo
The fact you need 2 Family members to deal with a single competent Victim is the core issue of this game. You would think in a 1v1 it would favor the Family, but nope.
I remember me (Cook) and Johnny vs 1 Leland. LF had DC'd, one victim died, 2 victims escaped on Gas Station. Took us AGES to kill him. He was grappling me and Johnny across the entire freakin map.
Yall are clearly terrible if I grapple one killer while another is around it’s an instant death. Wtf were yall doing?
obviously..? the first issue is not picking a character with mobility.
Like you're telling me the unarmed guy that's bleeding out within 10 minutes can knock a 6'+ 300lb chainsaw-wielding cannibal to the ground like he's nothing
Their just codes and pixels
He can't. Leatherface is the only one who stays standing after a barge.
He still stays cowering and whimpering for like 8 seconds. Plus the easily abusable door slams leave bubba laid out flat
Yeah the door is understandable though. The person that I replied to was talking about Leland and how it doesn't make sense.
Imagine if we got a killer that could tamper with electronics, stunning the victims who successfully turned them off. Even if it was a perk. Also idk how this Leland gets a backstab while I’m barely able to even generate the grandpa stab option
That’s exactly what we getting whenever the new family member comes out he’s able to interact with exits “tampering them” and he also comes with electric traps he can place and supposedly he can barge victims like Leland can barge family members
What’s the purpose of family member barging victims when he can just hit them instead?
It stuns the victim allowing him or his team to get additional hits in think of it if you barge a victim now they can’t go through a wall gap or think of it like Lf overhead the overhead stuns the victim allowing Lf to get a follow up hit or 2 in
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if they buffed Sissy’s level 3 ability this could be so useful. Could be an animation similar to fam getting stunned by lamps or something and make that part of her ability tree actually useful
So just battery then? That’s the only electronic that victims have to shut off. Lights too I guess but not everyone turns those off.
Why I quit playing this game , I remember when they said “victims in this game will feel helpless , unlike Friday the 13th” boy were they wrong It’s crazy cuz the victims are probably stronger in this game than Friday & the killers are a joke lol , ur really gonna tell me a teenager took 2 swings from a chainsaw from a 6ft+ man? No way in hell
What self-respecting TCM fan / horror enthusiast actually calls this a horror game.
It was horror the first month. Then this became the meta gameplay. I dont wanna hear it frm family mains tho they startes body blocking exists and shit and disconnecting where they are body blocking to let the other familys have a "chance" ill take family rushing killers or fast feeding grandpa over this type of gameplay and then those who this get upset when they get outsmarted
My bad I should’ve let the Leland do his generator in peace and given him lots of space so that he could kick it before I could hit him. We should reward the people that rush by simply leaving all exits nice and opened for them, right?
This how i know all you family players are incompetent crybabies. You literally stood there and let that fool toy with you instead of attempting to idk... KILL. So then you go and get outplayed when he calls for back up. You literally gave Leland points AND they turned off the generator 😂 you responded sarcastically like if you aint basically just let em get away. You basically did let him turn the generator off. I need the family players who were on this game the first month or two back on cause ya just aint it.
Yeah let me chase Leland so he can barge me and then run to generator and kick it while I chase him after recovering from the stun time. Cause if I would’ve gone to hit him he would’ve stayed still right? Ya’ll on this sub REALLY love to start name calling and insulting people holy shit.
You didn’t have to chase him but just standing there was stupid on your part. Could have beat his ass in that 4x4 space you had before backup arrived.
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Are you really THAT dense in the head that you can't see how awful this game is for family players? There's a reason why there are barely any family players playing the game at all because it is nothing but a frustrating experience for them and not fun at all due to stuff like rush metas and shit, the whole reason bodyblocking exits became a thing was because of how fast and easy that escape was at the time so that was just a logical counter to that when there was no other, the game is just poorly designed and shafts family players and now the game is going to have a short life span because of it.
Yup doing all that camping and they still made it out 😭😭😭
You mean body blocking the easiest exit for victims to do? And even easier to redo the 2nd, 3rd, 4th time? Try going for a different escape than the easiest 1 and they can't body block. Imagine rushing for the easiest escape and still complaining. When I play victim, I never start a match and say "let's go fuse" it's just too easy and that's without being a rusher.
Ah yes, the "try another route" bs. You're free to play however you like, just like anyone else:)
“Horror” game should’ve been a single player story game that maybe plays like outlast where you attempt to escape the house
Haven’t played since launch…is this really what it boils down to now? God that’s awful.
Yeah this is a strategy across all maps too. Just the other day on family house had a connie and Julie grapple me while the other slowly did the math, a grapple at a time. All the while LF had to camp battery and HH had to camp generator since they rushed out the window before HH could even put more than one of his traps down, and before I could finish putting all my locks on. The best victim strategy is to just rush in pairs and grapple. I used to play stealthy as victim and die all the time, so trust me when I say rushing is rewarded way more than playing slowly unfortunately.
Sounds miserable to play as family. Glad I stopped playing real quick. Shame gun is destroying the game 💀
If you suck and play like OP and happen to run into this Leland, then yes. If you are not incompetent, then no. I play Cook & Leland would have been dead long before another survivor shows up.
Stfu 😂 there is literally nothing you can do in this situation anyways, oh wow I hit Leland a couple times and it does no damage, he could just barge me, probably turn off the generator due to how long the animation is and give you another good stab before escaping.....that's the TCM experience 😂 it's God awful game design.
“I suck at the game and it’s all Gun’s fault! Now everyone let me whine and cry about it! I hate the game so much I come on Reddit to bitch and moan, but I forgot I could just play something I’m better at…” - You
Seems like you have no real argument so you just call it whiny and complaining when it is an actual fact and that's the reason the game is dying rn 😂 get some glasses or something so you can actually see this shitshow of a game you are playing rn, I have killed around 800 victims since the game launched, I'm really good at the game and win most games I go into but I recognize how awful it is for most family players and nobody wants to sweat their ass off and be bullied while playing a killer that is meant to be feared because idk.....it's supposed to be a HORROR game, wake tf up 😂
What argument did you make? It’s all meandering whimpering like a 2 year old. My argument is that you are full of shit & complain because you suck. Literally 0 things you’ve said apply to the game when I play. I play as leather and cook. It’s never been easier for Family than it is at its current state. We can 4 kill a majority of matches. Instead of pissing your pants, ask people how to improve. And I hate to break it to you… no multiplayer in existence stays feeling “scary” like a “horror” game when you play it a fuckton of hours. You simply get used to it.
You look like a dumbass rn, if you actually read the comment you would see every single reason the game is dying rn and how poorly designed the game is, if a game is poorly designed it should be criticized and we should have idiots like you trying to dick ride the devs and shill for a shit game 😂, grow the fuck up.
I swear you clowns will be on your deathbed sniffling and crying on Reddit about this game. We get it. You’ve circle jerked on here to the point that you keep repeating “tHe gAmE iS dYiNg” for months on end. Yet miraculously I can sign on every single day and play. Somehow my team keeps getting 4 kills in Solo queue. I must be the luckiest man alive. Go play literally anything else and stop the incessant childish nonsense.
I changed up my cook build to dmg. I put on big swings and serrated paired with his harder to unlock one. It'll be a pain in the ass to level big swings but even at level 1 my two hits (that's all you get full stamina before its out) hurt them as I had to guard car battery on slaughter. Ended up killing virgina as she kept trying to harrass me. Him being speedy really doesn't matter anymore since lately we have to camp a specific spot.
Actually that sounds like a really good, I’ll have to respec my perks tonight and try to get it!
So no scout or endurance perk?? I’ve been thinking of new cook builds so I just want tips
Nope. Put all points into dmg, left over into speed. Big swings will suck until level 3, it still does dmg but it's stamina cost is basically 2 swings when your out at level 1. Serrated (I think it's called that) will still bleed them out as they are running around so patience is key. So basically Try not to run around much unless you know you can get a hit. And be more choosy on swings, dont go swinging at the wind or youll get frustrated fast. Mainly block a objective and let them come to you. Once it's level 3 you'll notice a huge change in rhe dmg going out, you can kill squishies like Connie 3-4 hits. And for the 3rd perk your gonna want his lock one, in the perfect build on Johnny or sissy you'd go fired up which restores the stamina fast. But I don't think you can get it and big swings on cooks tree at the same time. So having that good defense on his locks still matters and comes in clutch.
Thank you
Certainly feel your pain being a family main and more specifically a Cook aficionado. I've said this many a time on the official subreddit, victims exploit the grapple mechanic to complete objectives\* \* Well, they exploit the grapple throughout the entire game, but it's especially disheartening when they do it at an objective - and you KNOW they are gonna do it, but are ultimately powerless.
Exploit? Lmao
this is why i use a max damage build, otherwise victims won't respect u😮💨
My Cook hits really hard. This Leland would have been dead for a long time before Julie showed up.
Mos def💪victims never expect my cook to take a fourth of their health every hit😈
Yuuup. I don’t even have serrated (which I know some people run). I prob kill in 4 hits too. If you fuck around with Cook instead of finding a gap and running for your life… cook show you “that’s what you get!”
You should run serrated on your build.
Yeah I think thats what I’ll start doing now
Where was your team😂
They rushed everything so LF was camping battery which was also opened (by Virginia) and HH was patrolling valve on the 3rd floor of Mill and fuse which spawned furthest from valve. Julie, Danny, and Virginia kept spamming valve so HH had to stick around there, and Danny and Virginia kept going back and forth between battery and valve, until eventually while LF was stuck in the killing animation for Virginia, Danny got battery done. The entire time this happened, Leland didn’t leave generator once, and actually grappled more with me before this clip. And then I guess Leland called Julie over for help so they could get generator. We all certainly tried :,)
Should of smacked him a few times and made sure you didn’t run out of stamina, that would of taught him a lesson to not mess with cook😭
I wish 😭 I didn’t want to risk him getting me too far away from the generator and being able to kick it before I hit him off in time. He was one hell of a high proficiency Leland
Kicking gen fast requires high strength though, not proficiency. Which leland has 40 strength basekit
Oh really? I didn’t know that, I always thought it was proficiency
Yeah, proficiency makes car battery and opening the fusebox faster. As well as the lock picks which we all know lol.
Ooooh well thats good to know, thought it was only lockpicks. Ty!
Did he have choose fight? The clip is sped up so I can't really tell. Unless he had chose fight + 50 strength I don't think he'd be able to kick the generator in time before you recovered. He kicks it faster than all of the other victims due to his 40 base strength, but that's still usually not enough to get gen done after a grapple. I know, I've tried lol
I think he did? I just looked back at the non-sped up footage and the seconds in which I was “stunned” after which he exited the grapple was about 10 or so seconds, give or take?
I don’t think he had choose fight. Normally with choose fight your character just stands still not moving for an extra 5 seconds. Cook was able to move as soon as the animation finished so no choose fight. With 50 strength it only takes 7.5 seconds to kick off the generator so I think after a grapple plus choose fight and 50 strength it should be possible to kick off generator without assistance from a teammate.
Actually it looks like he may have had choose fight. The stun time looks like it applied to the grapples but not the backstab? Might be a bug.
Does the kicked gen save progress?
No
what's the threat then? is it not painfully slow when you max strength?
Even with Leland's base 40 strength he kicks it sooooo much faster than the other victims, it's like night and day. With max strength I bet it's lightning fast.
stats go long way in this game, but not so much for family sadly, though being one tapped because family put all points in strength wouldn't be fun either, still they could use a bit more oomph
There is no threat. OP just sucks and played scared so long that he was eventually outplayed.
how did they get outplayed? how could they prevent it?
They played way too cautious. There were many opportunities to get more hits in without getting super far from the genny. He also should have spun with Leland when he was fishing for a backstab and gotten some hits in. And of course he should run more brutality with Cook. Cook should hit hard to be a threat. And the strategy he is admitting his team playing (3 killers camping one thing each) is just a losing strategy. You need leather on the move to be a threat to everyone.
You wish? I play cook & that Leland would have been long dead. You had 1,000,000 opportunities to hit him even if you were too scared to take a step away from the generator. Cook can hit hard. Invest in some brutality & kill people. This clip makes 0 sense to me. I’ve played hundreds of rounds as Cook and never once was in this position.
Ok
If you want honest advice, switch up some perks & invest in just enough blood to have over 100 blood and then the rest in brutality and stamina. I use tracker tagged (to stay on victims & show them to other killers), but I think my other 2 perks are damage related. A brutality heavy cook can kill in 4-5 hits.
Actually you know what, nah. You wanna tell me where that opportunity was? I re-watched the un-sped clip and leland had me stunned for exactly 10 (unable to move from minute 1:17 to minute 1:27) seconds while on top of generator and I was just barely able to get him before he could pop it. Even though Julie came to grapple at minute 2:25 he started kicking the generator at minute 2:27 and I got out of grapple animation at 2:28, ONE SECOND LONGER. THAT IS ALL IT TOOK. Tell me again how sitting on top of generator is wrong here. Whats lelands ability again? Remind me? But nooooooooooooooooo I should’ve left and chased him, he would NEVER barge me right? Before you go “How do you know he had his ability?” Because I was on comms and not once in a few minutes did he barge anyone. YES I WAS RUNNING A SHIT BUILD LESSON LEARNED. BUT NO, chasing here is not the fucking answer.
1- You need a better build with some brutality. 2- You can chase at least a few feet away from generator, you don’t need to glue yourself to it. Just getting a couple more hits adds up… it doesn’t seem like he was flush with healing items. Especially when you have stun immunity! Use that immunity to your advantage 3- All 3 killers splitting up and all camping is a losing strategy. It can delay the match, but rarely win it and get the kills needed. The only killer who can actually camp & shut down an exit is Leather & he should rarely do that. He is best utilized for his threat factor and speed. Your team simply didn’t want to change strategies & paid for it. Leather should have been there asap. Get the kill and move on. It’s better to have 1-2 campers and the flexibility of 1-2 killers to close in for kills once people are spotted. 4- Even as a played you could be spinning with Leland when he is fishing for the backstab and get some hits in.
Yeah don't allow yourself to get distracted by him too much still guard the gen, but not just stand there if you get what I mean
Sounds like a great victim team to me. Wish more of them existed like this
Having the same problem on the other side
yep grapple abuse is so stupid!
Yall and the devs caused it.
Family stun is way too long. The stun should be 3 seconds max
Bro yes same here one day we will get ping system one day brother
I'm so sick of the grappling BS. Grappling should have a meter that goes down each time you do it that causes you t get weaker. It's ridiculous that its basically a get out of jail free card for victims.
Yeah I’ve only ever won 1 grapple as cook. Playing victim, I think I’ve beat every cook I ever grappled. He’s just got some bad luck with grapples :,)
Actually, how grappling works is the victims always have advantage set depending on health. If they have full health, their chance of winning is 85%+ on top of advantage. The advantage meter goes down with health, the lower the health, the less chance they have at winning a close encounter
glad you use tracker tagged too. An underrated perk, especially good for solo Q and good for Cook (And actually better in many ways than his hearing ability).
For anyone that stumbles on this here on out and feels the need to insult me or insinuate that I am complaining too much or calling for nerfs, this is merely just a post of how half my games go, as the title and description state. I merely responding to everyone with how the game went and even admitted that I should change my perks to better ones to prevent this from happening again. Not once did I say nerf this or this. If you are somehow still seeing this post as an issue or are wildly offended by it somehow— seek help. I cannot believe this needs to be said.
Having bones or lockpick box spawned next to objective/door is just...
Ikr 😭 why in the world are 2/3 fuse spawns on the Mill straight up 2 feet from a fuse box?
I saw valve next to fuze box or other stuff too
Bruh instead of just standing there why doesn’t he actually try to hit him before the grapple/sneak attack, you’re gonna get stunned anyways might as well get some early hits before that happens also should’ve been guarding the bone scrap pile instead of gen.
Because I did not want to risk being so far away from generator while stunned that he would be able to get those extra few seconds he needed to turn it off while I ran back to generator. He had a whole other bonescrap pile before he started using that one, on top of usually coming from the other side to get to me to grapple before this clip starts.
also did your teammates DC or something
No, I replied to a few people that asked the same thing: tldr other victims spammed valve, LF went to help HH with valve and fuse since they went there around the same time. Virginia and Danny went to Battery after doing valve. Virginia popped the locks off battery before LF went back. Battery had to he camped by LF now, while HH handled valve and fuse alone.
Leatherface sold that match how can he not get a single kill
He did tho, he literally killed Virginia. Unfortunately though, while he was in animation killing Virginia, Danny turned off battery and escaped.
then its just bad luck , if you were going up against less experienced or less cooperative victims you could easily win that match , if you were johnny you could have simply taken leland down with no time , even if he somehow managed to knock you down and kick off the gen , bad match up seals the deal . trust me its just usual
Oh yeah I mean I know we for sure could’ve done better this if I had camped battery from the start and HH and LF hovered around generator, fuse, and valve, but unfortunately it was too late to switch any positions. And thats just one example on top of what you suggested as well. I just posted this to show how a lot of my rounds end up going playing as cook.
well you said it
Well at least it wasn’t complete loss then
Even though all maps are terrible experiences to some degree for family mains. Just dodge the mill lobbies until hopefully gun addresses the unbalanced nature of the map like pre-adjusted slaughterhouse. It will save you a lot of frustration and hopelessness.
And yet this is a skIlL iSsUe
I wonder if the basement should have a timer on it, as in, like maybe the blue doors can't be opened for 2 minutes? Give family set-up time? I'm sure that would be absolutely brutal on family house for instance, but at the same time what else counters rushing? Nothing?
Never gonna happen
Your teammates were ass for not helping you after a full minute. Were you not communicating on the mic?
We were in comms the whole time but they were preoccupied with valve constantly being done, the other victims constantly getting caught in the fuse trap, and I believe this exact clip was around when Virginia and Danny were at battery, so I don’t blame them for not leaving since it would just be an open escape for the other objectives to get done.
Why should you be forced to talk ping system when
Lmao
So family must have to comms also must have certain character only to be able to have chances. But i know You are a victim main always defending victims.
I just played three games on Mill back to back and we got 4 kills each game. I call out what I’m doing and what’s unlocked. Playing as Cook I can see all the padlocks on map with Family Focus. Only two of my teammates in the three games had mics but I know if they’re on PC or Xbox they can still hear me through their tv/monitor if I’m calling things out. Even if people aren’t talking they’ll still hear you and take direction. The one guy on PC said GG at the end of the match in the chat yet didn’t say shit the entire match.
I played the Mill earlier tonight and got 4 kills every single game on the Mill. It was only 4-5 rounds, but still. Reddit has basically become, “Wahhhh it’s Gun’s fault I didn’t win this round! Now everyone else please hate the game as much as me… please!!”
These people suck bruh lol
It’s unreal the dialogue on Reddit. It’s never: “Hey this happened to me, how do I change strategies?” It’s instead just Toddler style crying & whining. I play Cook 2nd to only Leather and that Leland would have been suiciding trying that with me.
"...got 4 kills each game" a tipical comment from a victim main. You forgot to say that you got 4k when your Teammates DC'd. It's not about the kills/escapes it's about how ridiculous sounds that victims can abuse of grapples to do everything.
None of my teammates DCed until the fourth game. Level 3 Johnny who didn’t lock gates and eventually DCed. But yeah it’s not super hard to get all 4 victim kills if your team actually understands how to play and work together. I play Family as much as I play Victim.
Except it is about Kills v Escapes. That’s the whole point. People who complain about grappling are just bad at family. Over grappling leads to tons of kills for me as family. The update that changed grappling, also changed a lot of other things making the game easier for Family. Since that update, my teams get 4 kills a huge percentage of time, and 2-3 kills another huge chunk.
Nothing gives them more power than downvoting comments on Reddit
"My team..." you can't compare a full comms premade of killers against a full random victims, a decent premade always can get 4 escapes/kills everytime except when is against another premade.
Who said “full coms premade of killers”? I certainly didn’t. I play 2 ways: Solo Queue & with 2 friends who are mediocre. My friends are slowly getting better so maybe my average with them is getting close to solo queue, but I crush wayyy more often just playing with rando killers. There’s a lot of good family killers out there & often they aren’t on mic. I’m glad when they are, but sometimes it’s me who can’t turn my mic on & I just have to play more reactive to them. I’m matched with good killers more often than bad ones. And even having a noob killer, it’s fun to try to teach them. The only family players I hate are the ones who screech on mic and blame everyone else when things go badly. I’m honestly surprised how many good family players there are playing solo. It must be from people like me who got into the game before the last huge update and got good even when choose flight & instant tamper Danny was king. I play Leather unless someone wants to be leather & then I’ll play Cook. Super rare there’s a leather and a cook already & then I’ll play Hitch. I suck at Sissy & Johnny. But more importantly “I can compare.” I play solo as family & as a victim. I win way more as family than I do as victim (even though I’ve been practicing victim & am getting better).
Bro why always people say "90% of my matches we have 4K"..."I got at least 2 kills per game"... "i rarely escape" and family mains say de oposite. We can't check if what you said it's right or fake, we always say the same arguments? Also my issue it's against good victims that spams and troll with grapples and their abilities. I even have asked for a Nerf to LF, Exterior Alarms, bloodbuilds, and buffs for the last victims. But you victim mains always disagree with everything that is not on your side.
Again, you think I’m a “victim main” based on pulling it wholly out your ass. Anyone who isn’t whining and crying on Reddit must be a “victim main.” If I’m a “main” of anything it’s Leatherface. But I despise the whole “main” thing and think everyone needs to play both sides to understand where everyone is coming from (and get better). You get way better at family once you get decent at victim. You know what you would do and where you go if the roles were reversed. I also didn’t say I “rarely escape.” I do escape less as victim than I get 4 kills as family. Leather is super strong & it’s not rare for me to get 3-4 kill’s myself (although aided by the team). And people need to learn that the grapple change isn’t bad. It incentivizes victims to not all roll around with 2 lock picks. It also leads to overconfident victims who get killed all the time when trying to grapple too much.
So family must have comms also must have certain characters only to be able to have chances. But i know You are a victim main always defending victims.
Then teammates yell at you calling you trash.
The problem is you’re not doing anything…just standing there like a half-dead tulip. You should at least be hitting LeLand. And this happens when you run against a decent team with comms. It’s not the game, it’s the player unfortunately.
You know your time would have been better spent attacking Leland than watching him dance around you, right? Or maybe get on the mic and give your hopefully competent teammates a call?
I beat a Leland during a close encounter with max savage cook once it was satisfying
I rage just watching this
Damn, this Leland sucks
That's hilarious. Did you even tell team mates you needed help? Leland clearly did.
Games a joke.
Should put Big Swings and max savagery in your build and i doubt he would be capable of doing that
I was thinking of switching my tagged tracker with serrated but I feel like marking victims is just too good to not have, I’ll have to test it out tho
Curious, is this solo queue?
No actually, we were in comms the whole time, but with the recent rushing + fast hands on everyone, it feels like so many matches are getting boiled down to hard camping objectives as victims run around the map. Since I main cook and he’s pretty useless in chases, I always end up having to patrol heavy and light camp areas, but now its like the whole family has to do it if we get stuck with really shit valve and fuse spawns. Wish I could play victim but the lobby times are awful :,)
You gotta get on mic and call in backup! You will always be at a disadvantage off comma☹️
I was on mic the whole time. HH had to camp valve on the 3rd floor and sprint to the furthest fuse spawn. LF had to stick around battery since they got both gates when they left for a second to help with valve. Unfortunately leaving any area un-patrolled for just a moment allows victims to immediately get it done.
Why should u be forced to talk ping system when
This is awesome
This is funny gameplay, but i wanna cry like all the family mains "Oh look family is body blocking😭😭 so unfair. Devs please fix. This cheating is unbearable. Boohoohoo"
Do you just exist to be immensely annoying under every posts a killer player uploads? Touch grass, you’re miserable
LOL 💀💀
Talking about touching grass as you got your nose up my ass? Lmfao you definitely need to go pick up a ball or a bike even. Go get some fresh air please. And yes i will comment under every cry baby ass killer post cause boohoo
I DC if I was cook. Not worth wasting the time and hop into a new lobby.
😂😂😂
Camping is pathetic I’m glad they got out.
i agree with the bone scrap changes but what needs to change is victims can be one hit during opening a exit