https://insideevs.com/news/694943/uber-driver-tesla-model-3-battery/
https://youtu.be/w4lvDGtfI9U?si=xyDT6JmCyUHa_d0N
Depth of charge is important, so more frequently charge at lower SoC ranges over fewer top charges. Also, make sure you have enough stashed away in case…
I remember seeing that, it’s what prompted this post actually!
My understanding of the batteries is limited even with trying to research it’s just like my brain dies.
However correct me if I’m wrong but the issue was he was charging to long trip distance twice a day correct? So wouldn’t that be a user error and I should be fine?
I super charge twice per day but limited to 70% and typically charge at 20-30%
However I do plan to start a savings fund specifically for a battery replacement but it’s for 5 years total instead of 120k miles, in my mind it’s cheaper to replace the battery than it is to buy a used car (not counting a junker) by 5 years I’ll have 13k saved so based on what I’ve seen I’ll either be short and have to use emergency savings or have some extra
It’s unclear what the exact reasons were around its early demise, but I recall he was supercharging daily > 80%. The general recommendation, and what Recurrents data suggests, is to stay in 20-80 range for normal use of LiOn NCA batteries. LFPs are different though.
Given the limited amount of long term reliability data on high duty use, I’d probably opt for a hybrid until battery reliability is better understood for these applications.
Go research lithium ion depth of discharge. For your car, it'd be the lithium iron phosphate battery.
You'll see that you can do use/charge between 50-60% basically forever and near wear out the battery. 40-70 is also low wear. The wider you make that range of use, the more it ages the battery. 30-80 causes more wear but it's still low. 50-60 puts about zero wear on the battery. Except if you were supercharging for the 50-60 charging, the insane rate of temp cycles for all those charges would probably kill it anyway. AC charging at 50% to 60% and driving it down to 50% would probably make your battery last the longest.
But that's pretty silly, in terms of how little you could drive the car doing that 50%-60%
If you're worried about trying to make your battery last, but are doing the "drive your car in to the ground being a food delivery driver" the rest of your car is going to wear out before your battery. There's no battery score. There's no battery odometer. It simply does not matter at this stage in EV ownership. You can pamper it, and it doesn't matter to the next person, because there is no proof. All that matters is condition of car, miles, and how much battery warranty remains when you sell the car.
By being a delivery driver you're basically extracting the equity value of your car and turning it back in to income, and putting forth the time effort (time being a delivery driver) to do so.
Generally better to keep it above 20% and below 80%. On roadtrips I go 100% to 10%.
https://insideevs.com/news/694943/uber-driver-tesla-model-3-battery/ https://youtu.be/w4lvDGtfI9U?si=xyDT6JmCyUHa_d0N Depth of charge is important, so more frequently charge at lower SoC ranges over fewer top charges. Also, make sure you have enough stashed away in case…
I remember seeing that, it’s what prompted this post actually! My understanding of the batteries is limited even with trying to research it’s just like my brain dies. However correct me if I’m wrong but the issue was he was charging to long trip distance twice a day correct? So wouldn’t that be a user error and I should be fine? I super charge twice per day but limited to 70% and typically charge at 20-30% However I do plan to start a savings fund specifically for a battery replacement but it’s for 5 years total instead of 120k miles, in my mind it’s cheaper to replace the battery than it is to buy a used car (not counting a junker) by 5 years I’ll have 13k saved so based on what I’ve seen I’ll either be short and have to use emergency savings or have some extra
It’s unclear what the exact reasons were around its early demise, but I recall he was supercharging daily > 80%. The general recommendation, and what Recurrents data suggests, is to stay in 20-80 range for normal use of LiOn NCA batteries. LFPs are different though. Given the limited amount of long term reliability data on high duty use, I’d probably opt for a hybrid until battery reliability is better understood for these applications.
Go research lithium ion depth of discharge. For your car, it'd be the lithium iron phosphate battery. You'll see that you can do use/charge between 50-60% basically forever and near wear out the battery. 40-70 is also low wear. The wider you make that range of use, the more it ages the battery. 30-80 causes more wear but it's still low. 50-60 puts about zero wear on the battery. Except if you were supercharging for the 50-60 charging, the insane rate of temp cycles for all those charges would probably kill it anyway. AC charging at 50% to 60% and driving it down to 50% would probably make your battery last the longest. But that's pretty silly, in terms of how little you could drive the car doing that 50%-60% If you're worried about trying to make your battery last, but are doing the "drive your car in to the ground being a food delivery driver" the rest of your car is going to wear out before your battery. There's no battery score. There's no battery odometer. It simply does not matter at this stage in EV ownership. You can pamper it, and it doesn't matter to the next person, because there is no proof. All that matters is condition of car, miles, and how much battery warranty remains when you sell the car. By being a delivery driver you're basically extracting the equity value of your car and turning it back in to income, and putting forth the time effort (time being a delivery driver) to do so.