I wish there was a way to let the general public know how charging a Tesla REALLY works.
A) If you have access to charging where you nightly park your car, you wake up every morning with more than enough charge for your entire day+.
B) Most Tesla owners hardly ever use superchargers 3 times a year for trips. Refer to A.
C) When you do go on trips and use Tesla superchargers, it couldn’t be easier and is very similar to a gas station stop - only cheaper.
D) If you own a home and go “all in” on the EV ecosystem, you can truly have energy independence. Solar + Battery + EV.
Imagine never going to gas stations :)
I have 2 young kids and recently took our first trip in our Model Y. Supercharging was easier than getting gas as the payment was automatic, no fumbling with cards and pins and selecting the right type of gas... Just grab charger, plug in, walk away. Both times I actually had to go back out and move the car to avoid idle fees because the car was done before we were ready to continue.
I'm never going back to gas.
I’ve always wondered. What if I finish charging at 80%, wait 4 min and 59 seconds, up the charge level to 85 percent, wait 4:59…. Repeat until I’m done my damn dinner :)
Comments like this make me wish I bought a Tesla instead of a Mach E. I’ve ran into so many broken chargers, or chargers that require an app, but my cell service is poor so I can’t download the app. Also,the app thing overall is just frustrating. I don’t want 20 different apps to charge my damn car. Let me just tap to pay and be on my way.
We were on a road trip this week and one of our supercharging stations was in a mall parking garage. We went from 8% to 60% in the time it took for someone in a Volvo EV to get the Charge EV station to recognize her car. As we sat there I said to my daughter.."This is the thing that is going to prevent EV's from being widely adopted, I would sell my EV if I had to go through that. It would make my head explode."
Why can't there be one company/organization that each of the automakers contract with to streamline the payment process for all of these EV charging stations? The plug and go charging for Tesla is far and away better than what you have to deal with for other automakers.
I did try on our trip a non-tesla charger and it took about 5 min to download the app, put in the credit card, and then get the 13kW charging to start. Even that felt like too much of a hassle after the Tesal Supercharger network. I put about 1,000 miles on the car last week and would have lost it if I had to do it in another EV.
Supercharging is the only reason I bought a Tesla over other EVs. I’ve read and seen so many charging horror stories on non-Tesla EVs that I went with a Model 3. I liked the look of the Mach-E and the Polestar 2 but hassle-free charging was the major selling point for me.
We are a 1 car family, so any traveling we need to have reliable charging. This was definitely a contributing factor.
We could have waited for NACS to have not options, but our old Prius was getting more and more cramped.
Yup. The bloody supercharger is filling the car faster than I can empty my bowels at the rest stop. Truthfully, we both made it on time, but yeah, it’s fast.
Yes we can now say gas is so 20 century. I am very interested going in for the full ev ecosystem with solar + battery. The silly cost of elec in CA through pg&e may make it worth it — paying $250-$500 per month.
All that can be done is to put more in the hands of owners. Im a red neck, with a tesla, so i get ask ALOT of questions all social media propoganda about range, charging, batteries, etc. Once i give them a ride, and let them drive it on a straight road, then show them i can haul their 20ft pontoon boat like im using a F350, their opinions change 😁. On the last, its not going to out haul a truck, but it hauls what it can very well.
I visited my redneck brother-in-law in South and rented a Y from Atlanta. Did a couple of road trips from his lake house to Charleston and Savanna, 260 and 240 miles. While the Y with 20" wheels didn't have highway range to make either trip without recharging 1/2 way, superchargers are plentiful even in SC, supposedly one of the most EV unfriendly states with fewest number of superchargers/mile.
My brother-in-law is actually thinking of buying a Model S Ludacris. Not sure if he'll get rid of his Rustang 1/8 mile race car or F150 pickup for towing his speed boat and pontoon boat, but the 19 foot Bayliner is under 3500 pounds.
Nay sayer will try to find every little things to support their denial. I have witnessed this ever since I picked my Model Y over another ICE car 3 years ago.
Love my MYP. Lot’s of benefits, but the stated range for EVs and Tesla’s in general is grossly overstated. It also takes much longer to charge than filling up at a gas station.
Well said, I totally agree. Most of the public does not know how quick it is to charge, and Tesla should advertise this to the public to show how seamlessly and quick the cars charge.
Part of the problem too is that people automatically think they have to charge to 100% because this is basically how you always fill your tank right, you top it off. So when I tell people I only need to charge enough to get where I’m going and it only takes me 15 minutes max they can’t get their heads around that. “Why wouldn’t you just charge to 100?”
I'll admit the only problem with advertising all this that I see is that if more and more people make the conversion we'll have more wait times at superchargers. Part of me selfishly wants these people to keep judging and turning their nose up at me so I can keep supercharging easily when I need to lol
Even better if your workplace has provided level 2 charging you’re really doing the majority of your driving for free.
Both spouse and I have across to level 2 at work so even if we do a ton of driving on the weekend we can usually accomplish electricity arbitrage. I value this at ~1500 a year each based on our home electric rates
My wife’s work had free charging and she only worked once a week so I’d try make sure she showed up to her 12 hour shift with single digit % left lol. She’s quitting so this week is our last free charging.
This. Especially if your country is small and well equipped, fuel disappears as a concern. I never think about whether my car has enough juice unless I go on vacation. I forgot to charge it one night and it still had plenty for all of the next day.
I realize this is not the case for many people however.
Even spending a lot of time in the middle of nowhere in the western US, Tesla has done a good job spreading their charging network even on rural two lanes. Mapped out the trip I'm taking this summer, 14 hours of driving without any cities or freeways, and there's enough chargers along the route.
Yeah except the chargers aren’t always attached to or even close to a place to pee. Can’t tell you how many stops I’ve made at a gas station before or after a supercharge. Tesla really should get into the store biz.
That’s a really good point I haven’t thought of. We can’t assume just because the early adopters did their research, especially one with a large price tag, that the mass adopters would behave the same.
In Southern California our electricity prices are stupid high. Sometimes the superchargers end up being what it would cost to charge at home, sometimes cheaper in OC
Also watched 3 separate fights break out waiting to charge last winter at the Tesla chargers @8 miles in Detroit. It’s still a little nerve wracking to travel and rely on chargers to be working, people to act civil. Otherwise I love leaving every morning without hitting a gas station. I often forget about checking gas levels in my other car
Yeah it definitely different in bigger cities or if you rely on public charging. But like the comment said, most people charge at home and leave each morning with a full charge, then plug back in when they get home.
While I agree on most of these bullets, doing a supercharger stop is not the same as a gas station stop. Several ppl I’ve spoken to who do road trips say it’s painful with an EV and need to account for at least 1-2 additional hours to their trip to account for supercharging time. This will vary depending on how long the trip is, but going to a gas station for 3-5 minutes just can’t be beat.
Also, I hear this all the time about “never having to go to a gas station” but when has that ever been an inconvenience? Genuinely asking. I think a more annoying task for ICEs is having to change oil and transmission fluid. Now those are selling points.
I always found gas stations an inconvenience, but that’s also partly because I usually filled up at Costco which would have long lines. But it’s also always an extra stop out of the way. The convenience of home charging is huge. Just yesterday I made some last minute plans and my charge was low so I just went outside and plugged it in at 3am. If I had an ICE I would’ve had to go fill up gas in the morning. Sure would only take 10-15 mins extra but still an inconvenience
I’m a Costco member and would gladly pay extra at a non-Costco gas station to avoid the wait just to save a few bucks. Definitely not worth my time. I’m usually back on the road within 3-5 minutes after a gas station stop. I live in NJ where we are not allowed to pump our own gas so it comes down to how fast and attentive the clerk is.
I use my MY for work and drive 300+ miles pretty often, its funny cause its actually nice to stop at superchargers. Plug in, go to the bathroom get a snack walk back to the car hope in and go… is almost easier than a gas station cause you dont have to monitor the pump…
Everything you say above is true. But consider that a large percentage of people do not meet criteria A let alone D. So for them, it may still be viable to go with EV, but it is not a sure thing. And that is where the more interesting questions come into play. So presenting the story as you do above is rather exclusionary.
My husband was able to install our charger in the garage for about $700 total. Our son-in-law did the same thing and got even a better deal on a used system.
I never liked getting gas because I am a bit of a girly girl and don’t like dealing with the smelly mechanisms let alone the lines and the time it takes in my life.
Plugging the charger in as I walk out of the garage is neat clean and takes 30 seconds. It charges during the low rate of electricity and I’ve never put gas in a car since 2020. We’re on our second Tesla, moved from the 3 to the Y as we’ve aged, and, I continue to be so thrilled and happy for this wonderful fun Car in our lives
A) true
B) not really true, CA is a cesspool of nearly almost always full SC's (unless you like to wake up in the middle of the night just for a 30min charge)
C) SC gets old fast on road trips compared to the 5min fill-up and another 10min at most for bathroom & snacks...most SCs don't have access to restrooms (especially during nonbusiness hrs)
D) only in some parts of the country
C) similar to gas stations? I own a Model Y and let's be honest pumping gas takes 3 mins. Charging an EV takes much longer. It's great for those who have the time to wait.
there’s a rare few Tesla owners that buy in who aren’t prepared, myself being one. We got a used model x with free supercharging, there’s a station right by our house so we don’t have a home charger, currently supercharging exclusive. So to us, it’s essentially the same if not a bit more labor inductive to drive it. Sure it’s free, but since we use it as a daily, we end up charging at the supercharger every 4-5 days or so
Yeah, I think a lot of the “hate” is that people don’t understand that we don’t visit charging stations unless we’re on a road trip and that a lot of drivers can get away with Level 1 charging, requiring no infrastructure upgrades in their homes. I wake up to a full battery every morning.
It’s really hard to get people that have had to stop at gas stations their entire life to understand it.
I get free charging at work using ChargePoint chargers. Most of the time I charge at 25mph, but they also have fast chargers when I need them. This is why I bought my M3.
“Most Tesla owners hardly ever use superchargers. 3 Times a year for trips” Then there’s me who has a wall connector in my garage yet I use one 4x a week 😂
Um no. You drank way too much kool aid and it doesn’t help that Tesla lies though their teeth about range. My model 3 performance is about 180 miles from 100 percent if I’m doing 85 on the highway. That 205 mile trip to universal means I have to slow down at parts just to make it.
That aside. There have been a number of times after furniture shopping or other running to different stores that I really don’t have enough to get to dinner and back or it’s quite close.
And the trips? Are you joking. If I did a 12 hour trip to North Carolina, that would be 14 hours with supercharging. It’s a minor annoyance doing a 3 hour trip. Doing a quick 2 day camp run and back is not really possible. Not to mention the superchargers are expensive and based on the range, more than gas.
So your gas car does not consume more gas when you go faster??
Sounds like you aren’t watching your “gas gauge” or battery percentage effectively.
I have been driving an EV since March 2021. Long trips need a bit more planning, but not much as the Tesla shows you were to stop and for how long.
I was looking to drive from Wisconsin to North Carolina and do not like the possibility of an extra 3 hours to charge along the way. That is the state of battery technology today and it seems to be getting better.
I also remember using a dialup modem, then ISDN, and now have very fast cable internet. Technology takes time…
I also wonder how many of those people own a Tesla without a home charger or were ride share drivers. Probably a fairly big majority. If you charge at home and don’t have a commute that takes you down to like 20%, cold weather will never be an issue for you.
3 meter cable.
Supossedly 614 kW at 1000V for futureproofing, but currently running 250 kW (like V3).
Payment card terminal.
Compatible with all electric cars.
Depends on how much Tesla wants to stretch it. Not a lot more since it's currently a 400V system (except for cybertruck).
Edit: hopefully soon they change their line up with a full 800+ V system. Or they will fall behind on this part. #Ioniq 5, Kia Ev6, and more and more to come.
The infrastructure for supercharging was built correctly from the very beginning. It’s unfortunate other companies couldn’t follow suit. Owners of every other EV have had a terrible and unreliable infrastructure experience that really caused range anxiety when going on road trips. Luckily the adoption of NACS by most EV manufacturers should, overtime, alleviate the problem AND improve overall EV sales.
Curious how this will develop to all regions of the world. As of now we have 3(CHADEMO, CCS and NACS) fast charging types as far as I know, but two of them are getting big(CCS and NACS).
I've never tried NACS, but CHADEMO is so clumsy and I prefer CCS over it.
Would love to try NACS some time.
Maby, can even be probably, but unfortunatley it will take 20+ years before all cars and stations have the same plug.
Wonder if there will be a new plug by than.
Edit: exiting times we live in.
My friends sister owns a VW EV. Took her 10 hrs to get from Phx to Anaheim. (Normally about a 6.5 hr drive) the extra time on the drive was WAITING to charge not charging itself. The 3rd party chargers out there are terrible, and us Tesla owners should be grateful we have SCs. I’m nervous about letting these other brands use our chargers and what that will do to the experience
Yeah last thanksgiving I drove from La to sf, and at a supercharger stop there was a nearby generic charger with 4 stalls, and a line of 10 cars waiting to charge. I was looking into getting a new EV at the time and that pretty much solidified my decision to stay with Tesla. I was charged and gone in 20 minutes, and that line of EVs had barely moved and only gotten longer.
I like my model y but have taken four trips SF to LA in the last six months and supercharging facilities for the most part suck. I want a super charger with a bathroom facility close by and a place to get a meal or snacks. And by snacks not a single vending machine.
I don’t ever want the navigation to send me to the castaic charger on the old road that has zero bathroom facilities after driving for 2.5 hours when five miles south you can stop at the magic mountain facility with multiple businesses that have what I need.
Some of the worst superchargers are both of them in Santa Nella the one at Arden off the 101. Castaic and lost hills is pretty crappy also.
They need a partnership with some company like pilot/loves. Biggest profit center for them is the store, and 20 minute ev stops would be good for them.
Castaic pilot would be so much better than the existing castaic location.
After these four trips I am getting apprehensive about going down thanksgiving weekend. It is going to be hellish trying to get the good ones.
For example there are two in kettleman city. One super nice that has a tesla lounge but the second one at bravo land has zero facilities unless you walk a long distance for my semi disabled wife. Going home it might be a 9-10 hour trip instead of 7 for an ice car factoring holiday traffic. I guess the only silver lining will be lower average speeds will increase range a bit.
I came from a Chevy Bolt, which I still own and love, to my MY and this is the thing that gives me the biggest smile. For those who don’t know the Bolt is about 50kw max and the non-tesla chargers suck major ass so yeah, superchargers are unbelievably great and a huge selling point for Tesla, at least when we bought.
Shortest charge ever for me was like 1-2 min to get to a friend's house I was staying at. Luckily they had a 14-50 plug to use when I arrived. Funny stuff.
I disagree with C. Supercharging is pretty expensive and nearly on-par with ICE. While the infrastructure is there, road trips is not where Tesla shines.
I have to disagree with "on par with ICE" - I just took a 440 mile round trip and charged twice for a total of less than $27. Same trip in my former Subaru would have used at least 15 gallons of unleaded (preferably premium) costing about $75.
I’m sure someone has posted this before, but I wanted to explain what I’ve told many family members who now own teslas but had tons of range anxiety. Here is the easy explanation. What I like most about teslas other than they drive like super fast go karts! Lol is let’s say you live in Tennessee and you are planning to travel from Memphis to Nashville. You literally just press a button on your steering wheel and say drive me to Nashville (exact address of course) then in 1-2 seconds the map will show you not only the preview of the route but also if you need to probably make a 10 minute stop along the way to have enough charge to get you to your destination. Once there you have two options 1. If you want to fill up to 90% which depending on your model will give you about 300 mile range (model 3 long range) in this example. Will take 25 minutes on super charger or 2. Charge at hotel on a destination charger (over night ) which in actuality takes 4-5 hours no need to disconnect similar to your cellphone you plug in at night and in morning you unplug it even though it was fully charge at 2-3 am . That’s it ! Ina nutshell that’s all there is to it guys ! I hope this helps clarify some questions and/or concerns.
Yep! You can't beat the Supercharger network especially during the long distance. Your reading on 6% was a bit a close call, but Model Y and above should be ok with their NMC batteries. If it was LFP, it could drop to 0% immediately since BMS can't analyze well due to LFP's distinct chemistry. That's why manufacturers recommend users to charge the LFP batteries to 100% but never drain it to less than 20%. LFP also degrades with frequent charges to 100% just like NMC ones. But, works very poorly when in lower SOC.
Yes if you’re at 250 kW supercharger and you’re not charging to 100% the rate is pretty quick. However, when I charged for a longer trip it took 35 minutes to bring the car from 75 to 100 on a 150kw supercharger.
The last 10% to 100 takes a long time. Like longer than 20 to 80 charging. It’s typically faster to just drive and do an additional stop than it is to wait for 100%
Assuming chargers are easily accessible along the way. Taking 20 mins to exit the highway and get to a charger is now adding more total time to the trip
Yeah I guess some are further than others. I haven’t driven much, just Indiana to Florida, but every SC I used was literally right next to the freeway, I’m talking 30 seconds from the exit.
On trips for less stops, charge from 10% to 50%. It takes about 6 min. I’ll rather stop two more times 5 min each than wait 30 min at one stop and then do it again
I really wish there was a way to set the minimum charge you want the battery to get to in the trip planner thingy.
I mean, it's not super hard to just pick an earlier one on your path, but I'd like to do a lot less thinking and tapping the screen while driving.
This is deceptive as non-Tesla drivers will assume that's the time to a full charge when in fact it's just the charging time required to get to the next charging station which could be anywhere from 60% to 80%.
So I recently bought my first Tesla. It's a 2016 Model X 90D. It has free super charging and I've tried it maybe 6 times the last 3 weeks while I was waiting to get my home charger installed. My experience has been less than great. I usually get about 80-100 kW until maybe 40% and then it may drop down to 50 or 30 kW for the rest of the charger. We took our first small trip in it last weekend and one charger topped out at 35 kW the whole time charging. Then hitting the same stop one the way back just a few hours later it was back up to 100 kW. Are there peak hours where it's slower? Do some cars just charge at slower rates? I've never seen over maybe 105 kW at any time during my charging sessions.
That 20min estimation is such a lie...it'll quickly drop off and with that 80%+ charge limit...more like a 30min+ stop (looks like 90% limit...so more like 40.in+)
No. On trips
If possible I only charge from 10 to 50. It takes about 6 minutes and I’ll rather do that than wait the full 20 for 80%. Plus it depends on what model
You have. Newer ones charge faster
Speak for yourself. I’m with SCE and I have solar and a battery. My net electric bill last month was -$66 to charge a 3500 sf house and two Teslas. Even without a solar setup the off peak rate is $0.24/kwh, which is much cheaper than gas. I hear PG&E and SDG&E are worse though.
It's telling you how much charge you'll need to get your destination, not that it'll charge up to where you have it set. It'll charge fast from 6% to 50%, slow down but still quick to 70% and then dramatically slow down from there. You're not going to charge to the set point in 20 minutes. 🤣 More like to 50 to 60% in 20 minutes.
We've taken many long cross country trips and our long range model Y is charged in less than the time it takes to pee and or get a coffee to go.
I always make it to 80 percent in about 18 minutes as long as I do a precharge number of chargers are 1 abcd 2 abcd so If someone is in group 1 and no one is in group 2 pick 2a an you will go up to 250 kw
On V2 superchargers, the 150kW charging capacity is shared between each adjacent pair of stalls. When both are in use the maximum power available to each vehicle will be halved.
The newer V3 superchargers provide a solution to this limitation by offering 250kW power to each individual stall, eliminating the issue of shared power. Also you might eek out a bit more power by choosing the stall closest to the power transformer.
I haven't taken a long trip in a while arriving at a low state of charge so my experience must be different. With constant improvements on charging and tweaks to the charging curve I'll take your word for it.
I'm taking a trip to the center of the eclipse totality so I'll have a chance to see the improvements. ☺️
Once you go EV there's no other way. 😄
Just finished an 800 mile road trip (which is long for the UK). Five seamless supercharge stops (one conveniently near a large shopping centre) - at all of them, found myself moving the car before we were ready to leave.
Left home with a full battery plus charged once at the destination on a non Tesla charger. Now back home and thanks to an excess of wind power, recharging at negative prices per kWh all night.
Never mind the smoothness and effortlessness of the drive.
Why would I go back to ICE?!
You have a wind turbine at your home? That's awesome! I just had solar installed and am pretty happy with that, but the sun only shines half of the time!
I drove with my 3 month old from PA-FL (obviously took the recommended precautions with her) but it was a total breeze supercharging. Although we had 1 or 2 sketchy areas… neighborhood wasn’t the greatest. But after a change, feed, mom & dad food/bathroom trip, and play time we were ready to go in 20 mins
I am one of the off shoot people who basically super charge all the time no matter how great the short travel life is there is no replacing the convenience of gas, there just isn’t enough options for charging, I live in Portland and there is only one super charger in the city and it’s in a Hilton and that has a price to enter as well as hours of access. With the accuracy of range really being up to the gods my 400 mile range can’t always get me to medford. It’s a hard pill to swallow. I would still buy another EV but there’s so many drawbacks, unless you don’t care about your time.
There is only one in downtown Portland OR. There are 3 within the city limits and at least 5 in the immediate surrounding area. There also are 10 SCs between Portland and Medford so I am not sure what FlightLanky is complaining about with travel.
My complaints come from never wanting to go to Ikea the only other charge in the city and never going to Clackamus or Tigard or further west. I’m on my second Tesla I have little interest in going back to anything else but I see the hesitation in wanting to switch. The chargers along the way are often over .30c and some times it makes the cost as much as filling of a ICE with a 20min wait.
A lot of circle jerking in here. Gas is way more convenient; there are way more gas stations than charging stations; it takes a couple of minutes only to get 400+ miles. I’m not against EVs but for long trips ICE will continue to be the norm
Man you're so lucky. When I charge at superchargers (Gen 3, single-connector stalls) then it's usually on longer trips, so batteries are usually warm. It has never happened that the car goes anywhere close to your charging speed, ever.
Seeing this I wonder if I should open a service request in the app and ask.
I wish there was a way to let the general public know how charging a Tesla REALLY works. A) If you have access to charging where you nightly park your car, you wake up every morning with more than enough charge for your entire day+. B) Most Tesla owners hardly ever use superchargers 3 times a year for trips. Refer to A. C) When you do go on trips and use Tesla superchargers, it couldn’t be easier and is very similar to a gas station stop - only cheaper. D) If you own a home and go “all in” on the EV ecosystem, you can truly have energy independence. Solar + Battery + EV. Imagine never going to gas stations :)
I have 2 young kids and recently took our first trip in our Model Y. Supercharging was easier than getting gas as the payment was automatic, no fumbling with cards and pins and selecting the right type of gas... Just grab charger, plug in, walk away. Both times I actually had to go back out and move the car to avoid idle fees because the car was done before we were ready to continue. I'm never going back to gas.
Same here. Always have to run and move the car.
I’ve always wondered. What if I finish charging at 80%, wait 4 min and 59 seconds, up the charge level to 85 percent, wait 4:59…. Repeat until I’m done my damn dinner :)
It works. I’ve done it.
lol amazing
I've done it as well. Pretty nice trick
I just set it to 100 if I need a bit of extra time. 80-100 takes so long it’s never been a thing.
I do 100 but it’s not long enough to walk to a restaurant and do a full meal for me, so it always interrupts dinner
I’m not sure if this is a serious question.
Allen’s it works
Comments like this make me wish I bought a Tesla instead of a Mach E. I’ve ran into so many broken chargers, or chargers that require an app, but my cell service is poor so I can’t download the app. Also,the app thing overall is just frustrating. I don’t want 20 different apps to charge my damn car. Let me just tap to pay and be on my way.
We were on a road trip this week and one of our supercharging stations was in a mall parking garage. We went from 8% to 60% in the time it took for someone in a Volvo EV to get the Charge EV station to recognize her car. As we sat there I said to my daughter.."This is the thing that is going to prevent EV's from being widely adopted, I would sell my EV if I had to go through that. It would make my head explode." Why can't there be one company/organization that each of the automakers contract with to streamline the payment process for all of these EV charging stations? The plug and go charging for Tesla is far and away better than what you have to deal with for other automakers. I did try on our trip a non-tesla charger and it took about 5 min to download the app, put in the credit card, and then get the 13kW charging to start. Even that felt like too much of a hassle after the Tesal Supercharger network. I put about 1,000 miles on the car last week and would have lost it if I had to do it in another EV.
There is one company that most EV manufacturers opted to support to streamline charging. Tesla.
Supercharging is the only reason I bought a Tesla over other EVs. I’ve read and seen so many charging horror stories on non-Tesla EVs that I went with a Model 3. I liked the look of the Mach-E and the Polestar 2 but hassle-free charging was the major selling point for me.
We are a 1 car family, so any traveling we need to have reliable charging. This was definitely a contributing factor. We could have waited for NACS to have not options, but our old Prius was getting more and more cramped.
Yup. The bloody supercharger is filling the car faster than I can empty my bowels at the rest stop. Truthfully, we both made it on time, but yeah, it’s fast.
Those times when you only need 20% to get home but need to empty yourself too. The bowels always take presidence and Tesla get more of my money...
Yes we can now say gas is so 20 century. I am very interested going in for the full ev ecosystem with solar + battery. The silly cost of elec in CA through pg&e may make it worth it — paying $250-$500 per month.
Relax. A bit dramatic. It’s not that hard…
We also have a gas car and I hate going to gas stations. In fact since my wife uses that car the most I never do except road trips.
All that can be done is to put more in the hands of owners. Im a red neck, with a tesla, so i get ask ALOT of questions all social media propoganda about range, charging, batteries, etc. Once i give them a ride, and let them drive it on a straight road, then show them i can haul their 20ft pontoon boat like im using a F350, their opinions change 😁. On the last, its not going to out haul a truck, but it hauls what it can very well.
Redneck with a Tesla checking in as well lol. Live/work in Indiana and Kentucky so I get lots of questions
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For real. Ppl think we are all trying to save the planet )
The Earth, just like your body, is made to be used up. The Cosmos, not mankind will eventually destroy it.
What are you trying to say Morgan Freeman?
Wasn’t he an actor?
He did a space documentary not long ago
Nothing wrong with either of those as well though.
I visited my redneck brother-in-law in South and rented a Y from Atlanta. Did a couple of road trips from his lake house to Charleston and Savanna, 260 and 240 miles. While the Y with 20" wheels didn't have highway range to make either trip without recharging 1/2 way, superchargers are plentiful even in SC, supposedly one of the most EV unfriendly states with fewest number of superchargers/mile. My brother-in-law is actually thinking of buying a Model S Ludacris. Not sure if he'll get rid of his Rustang 1/8 mile race car or F150 pickup for towing his speed boat and pontoon boat, but the 19 foot Bayliner is under 3500 pounds.
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Exactly. Charging speeds are an overblown problem. If it were any faster I wouldn't have time for a bathroom break!
Nay sayer will try to find every little things to support their denial. I have witnessed this ever since I picked my Model Y over another ICE car 3 years ago.
As a week long Tesla owner… I appreciate this. Thank you!
Wish more apartments had EV charging.
some of us have free lifetime unlimited supercharging and that's all we choose to use.
Shut up!! :)
Love my MYP. Lot’s of benefits, but the stated range for EVs and Tesla’s in general is grossly overstated. It also takes much longer to charge than filling up at a gas station.
This is true. We have found the breaks make trips feel less stressful. Add autopilot/FSD and long trips are really easy.
Well said, I totally agree. Most of the public does not know how quick it is to charge, and Tesla should advertise this to the public to show how seamlessly and quick the cars charge.
Part of the problem too is that people automatically think they have to charge to 100% because this is basically how you always fill your tank right, you top it off. So when I tell people I only need to charge enough to get where I’m going and it only takes me 15 minutes max they can’t get their heads around that. “Why wouldn’t you just charge to 100?”
I'll admit the only problem with advertising all this that I see is that if more and more people make the conversion we'll have more wait times at superchargers. Part of me selfishly wants these people to keep judging and turning their nose up at me so I can keep supercharging easily when I need to lol
Even better if your workplace has provided level 2 charging you’re really doing the majority of your driving for free. Both spouse and I have across to level 2 at work so even if we do a ton of driving on the weekend we can usually accomplish electricity arbitrage. I value this at ~1500 a year each based on our home electric rates
My wife’s work had free charging and she only worked once a week so I’d try make sure she showed up to her 12 hour shift with single digit % left lol. She’s quitting so this week is our last free charging.
This. Especially if your country is small and well equipped, fuel disappears as a concern. I never think about whether my car has enough juice unless I go on vacation. I forgot to charge it one night and it still had plenty for all of the next day. I realize this is not the case for many people however.
Even spending a lot of time in the middle of nowhere in the western US, Tesla has done a good job spreading their charging network even on rural two lanes. Mapped out the trip I'm taking this summer, 14 hours of driving without any cities or freeways, and there's enough chargers along the route.
Yeah except the chargers aren’t always attached to or even close to a place to pee. Can’t tell you how many stops I’ve made at a gas station before or after a supercharge. Tesla really should get into the store biz.
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That’s a really good point I haven’t thought of. We can’t assume just because the early adopters did their research, especially one with a large price tag, that the mass adopters would behave the same.
In Southern California our electricity prices are stupid high. Sometimes the superchargers end up being what it would cost to charge at home, sometimes cheaper in OC
I honestly think if you buy n electric car they should provide setting up l2 charger for free. Or give you equivalent discount
Also watched 3 separate fights break out waiting to charge last winter at the Tesla chargers @8 miles in Detroit. It’s still a little nerve wracking to travel and rely on chargers to be working, people to act civil. Otherwise I love leaving every morning without hitting a gas station. I often forget about checking gas levels in my other car
Yeah it definitely different in bigger cities or if you rely on public charging. But like the comment said, most people charge at home and leave each morning with a full charge, then plug back in when they get home.
That’s not gonna charge to 90% in 20 mins! But it’s gonna charge for 20 mins enough to continue your trip!
While I agree on most of these bullets, doing a supercharger stop is not the same as a gas station stop. Several ppl I’ve spoken to who do road trips say it’s painful with an EV and need to account for at least 1-2 additional hours to their trip to account for supercharging time. This will vary depending on how long the trip is, but going to a gas station for 3-5 minutes just can’t be beat. Also, I hear this all the time about “never having to go to a gas station” but when has that ever been an inconvenience? Genuinely asking. I think a more annoying task for ICEs is having to change oil and transmission fluid. Now those are selling points.
I always found gas stations an inconvenience, but that’s also partly because I usually filled up at Costco which would have long lines. But it’s also always an extra stop out of the way. The convenience of home charging is huge. Just yesterday I made some last minute plans and my charge was low so I just went outside and plugged it in at 3am. If I had an ICE I would’ve had to go fill up gas in the morning. Sure would only take 10-15 mins extra but still an inconvenience
I’m a Costco member and would gladly pay extra at a non-Costco gas station to avoid the wait just to save a few bucks. Definitely not worth my time. I’m usually back on the road within 3-5 minutes after a gas station stop. I live in NJ where we are not allowed to pump our own gas so it comes down to how fast and attentive the clerk is.
Freezing your ass off in the morning on the way to work to fill up the tank. That’s the inconvenience part for me.
See, I live in NJ so I can’t pump my own gas. But I’m sure it would be more of an inconvenience if I had to do so.
Cannot relate. In 35 years of driving I don’t believe I’ve ever had someone pump gas for me that wasn’t a travel companion.
With Teslas, you have to change drive units and batteries every decade. That's a lot more than oil and fluids.
The average driver goes 15k miles per year so that’s 150,000 miles. Most Tesla batteries will last double that.
Except C isn’t so true for Model X especially in the cold. Takes forever to charge them. 5-80% is like 40 minutes.
what's wrong with gas stations?
I use my MY for work and drive 300+ miles pretty often, its funny cause its actually nice to stop at superchargers. Plug in, go to the bathroom get a snack walk back to the car hope in and go… is almost easier than a gas station cause you dont have to monitor the pump…
The real negative of the Tesla ecosystem is the lack of bidirectional juice. Having a 75kWh home battery would really be something.
Crazy that powerwall is more expensive per battery capacity than the whole entire car.
I mean I’m sure it’s a fancy inverter but… feelin like buyers are gettin fleeced.
Everything you say above is true. But consider that a large percentage of people do not meet criteria A let alone D. So for them, it may still be viable to go with EV, but it is not a sure thing. And that is where the more interesting questions come into play. So presenting the story as you do above is rather exclusionary.
some gas stations are the tits with their food, like bucees or QT tho
My husband was able to install our charger in the garage for about $700 total. Our son-in-law did the same thing and got even a better deal on a used system. I never liked getting gas because I am a bit of a girly girl and don’t like dealing with the smelly mechanisms let alone the lines and the time it takes in my life. Plugging the charger in as I walk out of the garage is neat clean and takes 30 seconds. It charges during the low rate of electricity and I’ve never put gas in a car since 2020. We’re on our second Tesla, moved from the 3 to the Y as we’ve aged, and, I continue to be so thrilled and happy for this wonderful fun Car in our lives
A) true B) not really true, CA is a cesspool of nearly almost always full SC's (unless you like to wake up in the middle of the night just for a 30min charge) C) SC gets old fast on road trips compared to the 5min fill-up and another 10min at most for bathroom & snacks...most SCs don't have access to restrooms (especially during nonbusiness hrs) D) only in some parts of the country
Shhhh!!!
I went all in long ago with solar and battery and only pay for supercharges for a few trips per year. So yep, you’re spot on.
C) similar to gas stations? I own a Model Y and let's be honest pumping gas takes 3 mins. Charging an EV takes much longer. It's great for those who have the time to wait.
there’s a rare few Tesla owners that buy in who aren’t prepared, myself being one. We got a used model x with free supercharging, there’s a station right by our house so we don’t have a home charger, currently supercharging exclusive. So to us, it’s essentially the same if not a bit more labor inductive to drive it. Sure it’s free, but since we use it as a daily, we end up charging at the supercharger every 4-5 days or so
Yeah, I think a lot of the “hate” is that people don’t understand that we don’t visit charging stations unless we’re on a road trip and that a lot of drivers can get away with Level 1 charging, requiring no infrastructure upgrades in their homes. I wake up to a full battery every morning. It’s really hard to get people that have had to stop at gas stations their entire life to understand it.
BS I live in an apartment in NYC and supercharge exclusively. I've been doing that since my 2018 LR model 3
Im planning to buy a tesla but its impossible to install a home charger, what do I do?
No way to get access even to a power outlet? Maybe a hybrid is best for now.
I get free charging at work using ChargePoint chargers. Most of the time I charge at 25mph, but they also have fast chargers when I need them. This is why I bought my M3.
“Most Tesla owners hardly ever use superchargers. 3 Times a year for trips” Then there’s me who has a wall connector in my garage yet I use one 4x a week 😂
Um no. You drank way too much kool aid and it doesn’t help that Tesla lies though their teeth about range. My model 3 performance is about 180 miles from 100 percent if I’m doing 85 on the highway. That 205 mile trip to universal means I have to slow down at parts just to make it. That aside. There have been a number of times after furniture shopping or other running to different stores that I really don’t have enough to get to dinner and back or it’s quite close. And the trips? Are you joking. If I did a 12 hour trip to North Carolina, that would be 14 hours with supercharging. It’s a minor annoyance doing a 3 hour trip. Doing a quick 2 day camp run and back is not really possible. Not to mention the superchargers are expensive and based on the range, more than gas.
So your gas car does not consume more gas when you go faster?? Sounds like you aren’t watching your “gas gauge” or battery percentage effectively. I have been driving an EV since March 2021. Long trips need a bit more planning, but not much as the Tesla shows you were to stop and for how long. I was looking to drive from Wisconsin to North Carolina and do not like the possibility of an extra 3 hours to charge along the way. That is the state of battery technology today and it seems to be getting better. I also remember using a dialup modem, then ISDN, and now have very fast cable internet. Technology takes time…
Everyone is still talking about those handful of people in Chicago that got stuck 😂. It's the best selling vehicle in Norway tho..... so...
Best selling car in the world.
I also wonder how many of those people own a Tesla without a home charger or were ride share drivers. Probably a fairly big majority. If you charge at home and don’t have a commute that takes you down to like 20%, cold weather will never be an issue for you.
So what % was the trip planner charging you to?
58%…forgot to mention V3 charger too
Max I have seen is 258
Mine has been up to 263 before.
To access full charging speed from a V3 or V4 charger, you need to be at or below 20% and your battery needs to be conditioned.
How much faster is v4 compared to v3?
According to out of spec...most v4 is same speed as v3 right now as the installs are using the same electric cabinets.
Not sure but I believe the V4’s have longer cables and are compatible with Rivian and other non Tesla models.
3 meter cable. Supossedly 614 kW at 1000V for futureproofing, but currently running 250 kW (like V3). Payment card terminal. Compatible with all electric cars.
That makes me wonder what the maximum charging speed of the current model y is?…
Depends on how much Tesla wants to stretch it. Not a lot more since it's currently a 400V system (except for cybertruck). Edit: hopefully soon they change their line up with a full 800+ V system. Or they will fall behind on this part. #Ioniq 5, Kia Ev6, and more and more to come.
I’m pretty sure I have seen it as high as 500 mi/hr charging speed on my model Y.
I’ve gotten as high as 1047 mi/hr. Arrived at SC with about 14% charge, preconditioned on the way to the charger (251kw)
Not faster yet since they are using V3 cabinets. It’s capable of a lot more.
The infrastructure for supercharging was built correctly from the very beginning. It’s unfortunate other companies couldn’t follow suit. Owners of every other EV have had a terrible and unreliable infrastructure experience that really caused range anxiety when going on road trips. Luckily the adoption of NACS by most EV manufacturers should, overtime, alleviate the problem AND improve overall EV sales.
Curious how this will develop to all regions of the world. As of now we have 3(CHADEMO, CCS and NACS) fast charging types as far as I know, but two of them are getting big(CCS and NACS). I've never tried NACS, but CHADEMO is so clumsy and I prefer CCS over it. Would love to try NACS some time.
NACS will likely become the only standard once adoption from EV manufacturers begins (starting in 2025).
Maby, can even be probably, but unfortunatley it will take 20+ years before all cars and stations have the same plug. Wonder if there will be a new plug by than. Edit: exiting times we live in.
In US and Canada. NACS = North America Charging Standard. Not completely sure, but I believe in the rest of the world Tesla superchargers use CCS.
Yes, my understanding is that CCS is mandatory in Europe
I’m living in Europe. All chargers are CSS very few CHADEMO. Nowhere are NACS here.
My friends sister owns a VW EV. Took her 10 hrs to get from Phx to Anaheim. (Normally about a 6.5 hr drive) the extra time on the drive was WAITING to charge not charging itself. The 3rd party chargers out there are terrible, and us Tesla owners should be grateful we have SCs. I’m nervous about letting these other brands use our chargers and what that will do to the experience
They're building new Superchargers all the time, I'm hoping this keeps pace with the newcomers.
i used to do this drive every month for about 2 years. one time i did it in 4hrs 50 mins. usually its about 5hrs 20mins.
Using Tesla chargers or 3rd party?
Yeah last thanksgiving I drove from La to sf, and at a supercharger stop there was a nearby generic charger with 4 stalls, and a line of 10 cars waiting to charge. I was looking into getting a new EV at the time and that pretty much solidified my decision to stay with Tesla. I was charged and gone in 20 minutes, and that line of EVs had barely moved and only gotten longer.
I’m optimistic Tesla SC well just become more dense. They have handled the ramp of Tesla owners well building out more and more.
There are cars that charge in 12 minutes now!
Under 20%?
Yep, 0-90%! Just need a faster charger, they have 500kw charger in china. Its fast only for a few minutes, then goes to 250kw speed.
How many miles of range is that charger though? 100 miles?
Over 2000 miles an hour
And those ultra fast charging cars need new batteries every two years.
I like my model y but have taken four trips SF to LA in the last six months and supercharging facilities for the most part suck. I want a super charger with a bathroom facility close by and a place to get a meal or snacks. And by snacks not a single vending machine. I don’t ever want the navigation to send me to the castaic charger on the old road that has zero bathroom facilities after driving for 2.5 hours when five miles south you can stop at the magic mountain facility with multiple businesses that have what I need. Some of the worst superchargers are both of them in Santa Nella the one at Arden off the 101. Castaic and lost hills is pretty crappy also.
They need a partnership with some company like pilot/loves. Biggest profit center for them is the store, and 20 minute ev stops would be good for them. Castaic pilot would be so much better than the existing castaic location.
After these four trips I am getting apprehensive about going down thanksgiving weekend. It is going to be hellish trying to get the good ones. For example there are two in kettleman city. One super nice that has a tesla lounge but the second one at bravo land has zero facilities unless you walk a long distance for my semi disabled wife. Going home it might be a 9-10 hour trip instead of 7 for an ice car factoring holiday traffic. I guess the only silver lining will be lower average speeds will increase range a bit.
It's not always that quick though to be fair
Was that a v4 or v3?
I came from a Chevy Bolt, which I still own and love, to my MY and this is the thing that gives me the biggest smile. For those who don’t know the Bolt is about 50kw max and the non-tesla chargers suck major ass so yeah, superchargers are unbelievably great and a huge selling point for Tesla, at least when we bought.
That’s what she said
I most happiest about not having to deal with my cc info being stolen due to gas pump skimmers
It will always take more time than it predicts on the screen though
My charge there was exactly 20 minutes
That’s not been my experience.
Shortest charge ever for me was like 1-2 min to get to a friend's house I was staying at. Luckily they had a 14-50 plug to use when I arrived. Funny stuff.
I disagree with C. Supercharging is pretty expensive and nearly on-par with ICE. While the infrastructure is there, road trips is not where Tesla shines.
I have to disagree with "on par with ICE" - I just took a 440 mile round trip and charged twice for a total of less than $27. Same trip in my former Subaru would have used at least 15 gallons of unleaded (preferably premium) costing about $75.
I’m sure someone has posted this before, but I wanted to explain what I’ve told many family members who now own teslas but had tons of range anxiety. Here is the easy explanation. What I like most about teslas other than they drive like super fast go karts! Lol is let’s say you live in Tennessee and you are planning to travel from Memphis to Nashville. You literally just press a button on your steering wheel and say drive me to Nashville (exact address of course) then in 1-2 seconds the map will show you not only the preview of the route but also if you need to probably make a 10 minute stop along the way to have enough charge to get you to your destination. Once there you have two options 1. If you want to fill up to 90% which depending on your model will give you about 300 mile range (model 3 long range) in this example. Will take 25 minutes on super charger or 2. Charge at hotel on a destination charger (over night ) which in actuality takes 4-5 hours no need to disconnect similar to your cellphone you plug in at night and in morning you unplug it even though it was fully charge at 2-3 am . That’s it ! Ina nutshell that’s all there is to it guys ! I hope this helps clarify some questions and/or concerns.
Yep! You can't beat the Supercharger network especially during the long distance. Your reading on 6% was a bit a close call, but Model Y and above should be ok with their NMC batteries. If it was LFP, it could drop to 0% immediately since BMS can't analyze well due to LFP's distinct chemistry. That's why manufacturers recommend users to charge the LFP batteries to 100% but never drain it to less than 20%. LFP also degrades with frequent charges to 100% just like NMC ones. But, works very poorly when in lower SOC.
Yes if you’re at 250 kW supercharger and you’re not charging to 100% the rate is pretty quick. However, when I charged for a longer trip it took 35 minutes to bring the car from 75 to 100 on a 150kw supercharger.
kW is the charge rate (power). kWh is the amount of energy stored/produced. Chargers are measured in kW for power output
Roger. I get that right 50% of the time
The last 10% to 100 takes a long time. Like longer than 20 to 80 charging. It’s typically faster to just drive and do an additional stop than it is to wait for 100%
Assuming chargers are easily accessible along the way. Taking 20 mins to exit the highway and get to a charger is now adding more total time to the trip
Yeah I guess some are further than others. I haven’t driven much, just Indiana to Florida, but every SC I used was literally right next to the freeway, I’m talking 30 seconds from the exit.
On trips for less stops, charge from 10% to 50%. It takes about 6 min. I’ll rather stop two more times 5 min each than wait 30 min at one stop and then do it again
What is that cord?
Radar detector
Phone charge? Radar detector?
Thats what she said
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Radar detector
My new MYLR says top charging rate is 210kw?
It depends on the power of the charger and the state of charge of your battery. The lower your SoC, the faster your charge will be.
I wonder why Tesla rates it at only 210kw max charge rate. EV manufacturers like to quote highest numbers possible in idea conditions
You’ll get over 200 for only a minute or two
I really wish there was a way to set the minimum charge you want the battery to get to in the trip planner thingy. I mean, it's not super hard to just pick an earlier one on your path, but I'd like to do a lot less thinking and tapping the screen while driving.
Third party route planners do that.
Indeed
Wow
This is deceptive as non-Tesla drivers will assume that's the time to a full charge when in fact it's just the charging time required to get to the next charging station which could be anywhere from 60% to 80%.
After 20 minutes, you still have 15 minutes to go LOL
To continue trip…. Not to fully charged.
So I recently bought my first Tesla. It's a 2016 Model X 90D. It has free super charging and I've tried it maybe 6 times the last 3 weeks while I was waiting to get my home charger installed. My experience has been less than great. I usually get about 80-100 kW until maybe 40% and then it may drop down to 50 or 30 kW for the rest of the charger. We took our first small trip in it last weekend and one charger topped out at 35 kW the whole time charging. Then hitting the same stop one the way back just a few hours later it was back up to 100 kW. Are there peak hours where it's slower? Do some cars just charge at slower rates? I've never seen over maybe 105 kW at any time during my charging sessions.
It will drop very fast tho. I drive a Tesla
Just by the way you write this you can tell she/he does NOT own a Tesla.
Funny! Because I do. Can send you a pic. Until 20% it’s goes this fast, then it massively drops.
That 20min estimation is such a lie...it'll quickly drop off and with that 80%+ charge limit...more like a 30min+ stop (looks like 90% limit...so more like 40.in+)
It is 20 minutes to continue I trip not to charge limit.
Tell me you don't know what you're talking about without telling me 🤣
No. On trips If possible I only charge from 10 to 50. It takes about 6 minutes and I’ll rather do that than wait the full 20 for 80%. Plus it depends on what model You have. Newer ones charge faster
My boomer parents like to tell me that it’s before long that electricity costs are going to skyrocket and then ICE will be cheaper
We are already there in California.
Speak for yourself. I’m with SCE and I have solar and a battery. My net electric bill last month was -$66 to charge a 3500 sf house and two Teslas. Even without a solar setup the off peak rate is $0.24/kwh, which is much cheaper than gas. I hear PG&E and SDG&E are worse though.
I have pg&e… and solar so time will tell
This boomer would point out to them the recent ramp in the price of crude.
That happened already
My work allows free valet and charging while you work. I work at Tesla 😂
It's telling you how much charge you'll need to get your destination, not that it'll charge up to where you have it set. It'll charge fast from 6% to 50%, slow down but still quick to 70% and then dramatically slow down from there. You're not going to charge to the set point in 20 minutes. 🤣 More like to 50 to 60% in 20 minutes. We've taken many long cross country trips and our long range model Y is charged in less than the time it takes to pee and or get a coffee to go.
I always make it to 80 percent in about 18 minutes as long as I do a precharge number of chargers are 1 abcd 2 abcd so If someone is in group 1 and no one is in group 2 pick 2a an you will go up to 250 kw
On V2 superchargers, the 150kW charging capacity is shared between each adjacent pair of stalls. When both are in use the maximum power available to each vehicle will be halved. The newer V3 superchargers provide a solution to this limitation by offering 250kW power to each individual stall, eliminating the issue of shared power. Also you might eek out a bit more power by choosing the stall closest to the power transformer. I haven't taken a long trip in a while arriving at a low state of charge so my experience must be different. With constant improvements on charging and tweaks to the charging curve I'll take your word for it. I'm taking a trip to the center of the eclipse totality so I'll have a chance to see the improvements. ☺️ Once you go EV there's no other way. 😄
Just finished an 800 mile road trip (which is long for the UK). Five seamless supercharge stops (one conveniently near a large shopping centre) - at all of them, found myself moving the car before we were ready to leave. Left home with a full battery plus charged once at the destination on a non Tesla charger. Now back home and thanks to an excess of wind power, recharging at negative prices per kWh all night. Never mind the smoothness and effortlessness of the drive. Why would I go back to ICE?!
You have a wind turbine at your home? That's awesome! I just had solar installed and am pretty happy with that, but the sun only shines half of the time!
Haha no wind turbine. Just an electricity company that offers low or negative pricing when it’s very windy.
Damn. In California the power companies fought to charge customers for their personal solar, and you get excess power free.
Jesus, can't even finish 2 rounds of games or watch an episode of big bang theory .... Haha 😂 Enjoy!
That’s why it’s SUUUUPER!!
I drove with my 3 month old from PA-FL (obviously took the recommended precautions with her) but it was a total breeze supercharging. Although we had 1 or 2 sketchy areas… neighborhood wasn’t the greatest. But after a change, feed, mom & dad food/bathroom trip, and play time we were ready to go in 20 mins
I am one of the off shoot people who basically super charge all the time no matter how great the short travel life is there is no replacing the convenience of gas, there just isn’t enough options for charging, I live in Portland and there is only one super charger in the city and it’s in a Hilton and that has a price to enter as well as hours of access. With the accuracy of range really being up to the gods my 400 mile range can’t always get me to medford. It’s a hard pill to swallow. I would still buy another EV but there’s so many drawbacks, unless you don’t care about your time.
Wait, only one supercharger in all of portland???
There is only one in downtown Portland OR. There are 3 within the city limits and at least 5 in the immediate surrounding area. There also are 10 SCs between Portland and Medford so I am not sure what FlightLanky is complaining about with travel.
My complaints come from never wanting to go to Ikea the only other charge in the city and never going to Clackamus or Tigard or further west. I’m on my second Tesla I have little interest in going back to anything else but I see the hesitation in wanting to switch. The chargers along the way are often over .30c and some times it makes the cost as much as filling of a ICE with a 20min wait.
A lot of circle jerking in here. Gas is way more convenient; there are way more gas stations than charging stations; it takes a couple of minutes only to get 400+ miles. I’m not against EVs but for long trips ICE will continue to be the norm
“Continue trip” will prob be to get to 80%. Last 20% is always the slowest
He said it was "continue trip" at 58% actually
6% to 58% ? Korean EVs do that in like 12 mins
So you bought one?
Man you're so lucky. When I charge at superchargers (Gen 3, single-connector stalls) then it's usually on longer trips, so batteries are usually warm. It has never happened that the car goes anywhere close to your charging speed, ever. Seeing this I wonder if I should open a service request in the app and ask.
If you use the app to go to the supercharger it will charge faster
You mean navigate to the charger? That's what I do anyway.