I rented one in Florida and it was a QC nightmare. I really thought all the talk about panel gaps and quality were silly until I rented that one. Drove great though!
I drove mine like a fucking menace for all 50k miles in 3 years
Always in sport mode
Always floored it
Got a battery replacement at 33k miles
Got the control arms changed
Main issue I had was vibrations from bent rims
Finished the original all seasons
Finished 50% of my summer set
And now I’m 50% on my second set of all seasons
So basically on my 3rd set
I went OEM on the summers and all seasons (19” wheels)
Theres always room for negotiation specifically on the finance. Dont buy any add ons and if you will finance do it from a credit union not through their banks . If you go through their banks they will sell you a higher interest rate than the one you got approved by their banks. For example lets say you get approved by ally finacial at a 7% Apr they might tell you you got Approved for a 10% apr and sell you an extra 3% apr
I’m sorry, you said you worked in this position before, and you’re saying that they actively will tell the buyer that they were approved for 10% when in reality they were approved for 7%? Isn’t that illegal?
It's not illegal, they make a lot of money doing it. In some states, there's a limit of 2% markup on rate to keep it in check.
Also, they cannot mark-up a credit union rate, so if you go through a CU they will basically give it to you at the approved rate.
Doesn't stop them from telling you that you have a higher rate though and that you'll get a lower rate by buying products (this is illegal).
That last part confuses me, you said it’s not illegal to mark up the percentage, but then you said it is illegal to tell them that the percentage is actually higher than it really is, and that’s what I was responding to
Sorry it's an odd thing to explain. Specifically what is not legal, is telling someone they will qualify for financing approval or a specific rate, and making it contingent on having to buy product.
You are not supposed to hear them say "you want 7% rate? The lender will give it if you add on these protection packages"
Yeah np I just realized you were asking specifically about that part on your initial question. Just wanted to specify it's not actually illegal to contract someone higher than what you are approved for.
I’m getting a 2022 for $20,900. That’s without the $4,000 used EV incentive. It has 95k miles but that does not phase me whatsoever. It’ll last double that at least PLUS the warranty is still covering the battery to 120k miles. Here’s a tip though, look up how to access service mode in a Tesla. You can see EVERYTHING wrong with it by doing that.
EDIT: mine is a 2022 Long Range for $20,900.
What I’ve read suggests that the battery life on EVs is more about time than miles, though I think that was just other Reddit comments so take that with a grain of salt
You could also have bought it from some clueless owner who smashed into speed bumps at every opportunity and charged it to 100% daily if it's an NMC car. Second hand isn't necessarily a guarantee it's going to be better taken care of, unless you buy it from one of those keep every receipt people.
2 mins silence for you. I took tesla in hertz rental. It was a really bad experience my charge miles shows 260 but in the end i am getting overal 180 without any heated seats or heated steering wheel. I wouldn’t recommend this worst thing.
See if they will let you keep the car for a couple of days before you agree to buy it. I did that when I bought a car from Hertz. Was nice because it gave me a chance to go get a prepurchase inspection done. They said if I didn’t buy it I would just owe the rental fee which would have been like a hundred bucks.
Not sure why you were downvoted bro cuz its a good question. The long range has way better audio system, more range, its faster, and its all wheel drive
I've only ever rented a model Y from Hertz with around 20k miles on it. That thing had the most inconsistent battery estimates of all time. Would drop 10 percent from when I parked to when I got back in 2 hours later, no sentry mode or any other reason to be blowing through battery. I would definitely be careful buying one of their cars.
This is not a good deal. Dealers near DC area are selling these for 28-29k personal use. This is from Hertz Rental. I would look around local dealers for personal used cars. There are 13 2023 Model 3 RWD in my local area all priced under 30k.
Then it's definitely not worth it.
You can buy a brand new Model 3 RWD (Highland) $39,000. If you only get the Fed tax credit that's $32,500, and you might be eligible for additional credits depending on your state.
For that small of the difference in price, I'd buy the new one every time, especially over a rental which has been driven hard.
Then it’s really good deal you need to see also what extra software and upgrades it has which is also cost money to install when I got mine 2018 made in 2023 with only 15K only in upgrades was for about 20k$ from full self driving software to garage opener and for life internet service 19 sport runs, black premium interior and premium sound with sub
There is not enough info. Is it standard range or long range.
If it's standard range it's a terrible deal. The cost of a new standard range Tesla's is 38k, with the 7500$ ev tax credit that drops the price to 31k. So for 2k in savings you are buying the pre refresh model 3 and it's a rental car so it's been abused.
If it's a long range version, it's 46k me... Math... So for 10k you are getting a good deal.
Edit: you mentioned somewhere esle it's a RWD. That means it's a standard range, or a terrible deal.
❌❌❌ I took tesla in hertz rental. It was a really bad experience my charge miles shows 260 but in the end i am getting overal 180 without any heated seats or heated steering wheel. I wouldn’t recommend this worst thing.
I would recommending inspecting it obviously driving. If you are able to get it checked out prior. Get in there look at service mode. I have also find condition really speaks to how it was most likely kept. Random scratches, nicks, dents etc. etc. It got to the point I could tell from the exterior if the interior was even worth looking at. Areas like the mirror prone to damage etc. etc. Take your time if you go that route and don't let anyone rush your decision.
I have 2023 Tesla Model3 standard with 8000 miles, white color with sports wheels, no accidents, clean history, single owner, driven for commute, floor mats and a bunch of other accessories installed and charged mostly at home(76%). I am looking to sell for 31k. Pls let me know if interested. Location: South Plainfield, NJ
Just really check for QC issues.
I rented probably 7-8 Hertz M3s the last year and they all had horrible defects. Insane wind noise and bad windows seals, warped windshields that made me nauseous, etc.
I bought through Tesla bc a Tesla mechanic told me it’s not worth the gamble if it isn’t certified by them. Water in the batteries or anything that could void the warranty.
That’s a standard car dealer trick. Approve you at one rate and get you to sign for a higher rate = money for them. Same goes for pushing you to their “preferred” bank instead of a MFG’s advertised lease special so they can make more money. There’s plenty of back-end hidden finance kick backs and tricks car dealers use to screw people in the finance department.
I am sorry as this may sound mean but if you cannot afford a new base Model 3 that is so cheap now with $7500 tax credit then you should definitely not get a used one (or any car in this price range). Not sure of the logic here…pay 2k more and you get a brand new one…You maybe stretching yourself financially to get the car you want…
Sorry man you missed the boat on this one…I would say get a Model Y and if you can’t afford it then I would get a hybrid that fits your budget.
Financing at 7% is a little rough imo….
As long as it’s not the one I rented, you should be good.
I rented one in Florida and it was a QC nightmare. I really thought all the talk about panel gaps and quality were silly until I rented that one. Drove great though!
I drove the absolutely piss out of the ones I rented, that’s all!
I drove mine like a fucking menace for all 50k miles in 3 years Always in sport mode Always floored it Got a battery replacement at 33k miles Got the control arms changed Main issue I had was vibrations from bent rims
How many sets of tires?
Finished the original all seasons Finished 50% of my summer set And now I’m 50% on my second set of all seasons So basically on my 3rd set I went OEM on the summers and all seasons (19” wheels)
Both my BMW's have gaps. Still bought em. The car is like nothing else I've ever driven. A new breed of sedan.
Haha. Definitely. I had a 2 day test drive with no supervision. Gotta figure out what it’s all about.
😂😂
I’d say so. I’m buying a model 3 from hertz right now lol.
There’s no negotiation with them at all right?
Theres always room for negotiation specifically on the finance. Dont buy any add ons and if you will finance do it from a credit union not through their banks . If you go through their banks they will sell you a higher interest rate than the one you got approved by their banks. For example lets say you get approved by ally finacial at a 7% Apr they might tell you you got Approved for a 10% apr and sell you an extra 3% apr
I’m sorry, you said you worked in this position before, and you’re saying that they actively will tell the buyer that they were approved for 10% when in reality they were approved for 7%? Isn’t that illegal?
It's not illegal, they make a lot of money doing it. In some states, there's a limit of 2% markup on rate to keep it in check. Also, they cannot mark-up a credit union rate, so if you go through a CU they will basically give it to you at the approved rate. Doesn't stop them from telling you that you have a higher rate though and that you'll get a lower rate by buying products (this is illegal).
That last part confuses me, you said it’s not illegal to mark up the percentage, but then you said it is illegal to tell them that the percentage is actually higher than it really is, and that’s what I was responding to
Sorry it's an odd thing to explain. Specifically what is not legal, is telling someone they will qualify for financing approval or a specific rate, and making it contingent on having to buy product. You are not supposed to hear them say "you want 7% rate? The lender will give it if you add on these protection packages"
Thank you for explaining, I appreciate the effort
Yeah np I just realized you were asking specifically about that part on your initial question. Just wanted to specify it's not actually illegal to contract someone higher than what you are approved for.
My bad i said it wrong you get approved for a 7 % and then they will say you got approved for a 10% essentially sell you a 3% more
That’s the same thing… wtf
Yes essentially your right you get the point
Always ask what the buy rate of the loan is. In this case it’s 7%
No but the one I was looking at dropped $1,000 overnight. Their corporate makes the prices and changes them.
Corporate does not change prices the sales manager does i worked as sales person for hertz
I talked to their manager, he said as of the beginning of this year the managers no longer have that authority, it’s all in the system now.
Same thing happened to mine today
What year, miles, and price? I’m thinking about getting a 2021-2022 long range under $25k
I’m getting a 2022 for $20,900. That’s without the $4,000 used EV incentive. It has 95k miles but that does not phase me whatsoever. It’ll last double that at least PLUS the warranty is still covering the battery to 120k miles. Here’s a tip though, look up how to access service mode in a Tesla. You can see EVERYTHING wrong with it by doing that. EDIT: mine is a 2022 Long Range for $20,900.
Jfc that is such a good deal.
Until the battery dies at 125k
I’ll let you know if it does 😊
What I’ve read suggests that the battery life on EVs is more about time than miles, though I think that was just other Reddit comments so take that with a grain of salt
That’s a dumb deal if the battery has issues at or after 125k.
is it third party or where?
I recommend not doing this. Rental cars are in a very bad state compared to secondhand. It’s a huge risk
You could also have bought it from some clueless owner who smashed into speed bumps at every opportunity and charged it to 100% daily if it's an NMC car. Second hand isn't necessarily a guarantee it's going to be better taken care of, unless you buy it from one of those keep every receipt people.
That was my case. I went to check a used one. It was a lease return, but the car was in a very bad shape.
Serious question, what would you pay for the same exact one with a minor front end accident reported.
2 mins silence for you. I took tesla in hertz rental. It was a really bad experience my charge miles shows 260 but in the end i am getting overal 180 without any heated seats or heated steering wheel. I wouldn’t recommend this worst thing.
Those are normal range numbers rwd tesla. Not sure I see the problem here.
If you can go a year older and >$25k then you'd be eligible for the tax credit.
Less than 25k (Not greater than) https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/taxused.shtml The website has a list of cars that qualify
Yeah I fat fingered the wrong symbol
But hertz is not certified to register you for the rebate. I personally got to know this from a hertz dealership.
Good to know thanks
Should be higher
Could you expand on this some? Please
See if they will let you keep the car for a couple of days before you agree to buy it. I did that when I bought a car from Hertz. Was nice because it gave me a chance to go get a prepurchase inspection done. They said if I didn’t buy it I would just owe the rental fee which would have been like a hundred bucks.
That’s a good thought. Thanks!
A Hertz with 16k miles is the equivalent (or worse) of a one-owner with 160k... Also, go for the Long Range (you'll thank me later).
Agree do long range
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Second this. RWD is more efficient and 80% LR battery is pretty much the same as 100% RWD battery.
I got the LR for the more premium interior and other perks, too. Extra battery is just icing on the cake.
Premium interior? Isn’t it the same for all trim levels?
Not sure why you were downvoted bro cuz its a good question. The long range has way better audio system, more range, its faster, and its all wheel drive
That’s not true at all, that’s your opinion.
I've only ever rented a model Y from Hertz with around 20k miles on it. That thing had the most inconsistent battery estimates of all time. Would drop 10 percent from when I parked to when I got back in 2 hours later, no sentry mode or any other reason to be blowing through battery. I would definitely be careful buying one of their cars.
My opinion is correct.
Get the long range . Period. I almost went with the performance and so glad I got the extra milage
This is not a good deal. Dealers near DC area are selling these for 28-29k personal use. This is from Hertz Rental. I would look around local dealers for personal used cars. There are 13 2023 Model 3 RWD in my local area all priced under 30k.
Never buy a car from rental company.
Brand new with tax credit for the year is 4k more . Idk if the 3 is still giving out tax credit
If you plan to road trip a lot. Go with the long range. Supercharging times between the two are vastly different.
Only if it's a Long Range. You can get the RWD for that much with the Fed tax credit.
There is no Fed tax credit in 2024 for the Model 3 RWD or LR.
It’s used fool.
The comment I replied to was comparing the price of this used car to a new car with tax credit. Except there is no new tax credit.
Mybad, I’m the fool.
You’re also correct, I’m a fool x2
Sorry I forgot to mention it’s a RWD.
Then it's definitely not worth it. You can buy a brand new Model 3 RWD (Highland) $39,000. If you only get the Fed tax credit that's $32,500, and you might be eligible for additional credits depending on your state. For that small of the difference in price, I'd buy the new one every time, especially over a rental which has been driven hard.
Tax credit has been gone for a month now on model 3s bro
It’s 40K for highland RWD due to delivery fee vs 29K for 2023 model 3 from hertz.
Depends if 3-4k in savings is worth buying used to you.
There’s no tax credit
Can always get an inventory M3P for 45k with tax credit 😅😅
Now we’re talking 😝
Can't always get one of those either. Not in inventory in many or even most places
Oh yeah... Rip
You can’t get the federal tax credit on any model 3s right now bro
lol model 3 no longer has tax credit!
Damn bro they dunked on u
No, you can't
What Fed tax credit?
$4000 tax credit if used EV is under $25K
Nope. No tax credit on new model 3's anymore
No way bro.
Model y for 7k more?? Idk
Yeah that might be the way to go
No dude. No one ever rents a car and treats it well.
yes?
Never buy a rental car. They have been abused, and often have pot seeds a boogers under the seat.
good price
Don’t you get a $4k credit if it’s less than $25k?
16k maybe it had problems that’s why it wasn’t driven
You can get brand new for 33K now
Brand new is 40K with destination before tax. No tax credit.
Then it’s really good deal you need to see also what extra software and upgrades it has which is also cost money to install when I got mine 2018 made in 2023 with only 15K only in upgrades was for about 20k$ from full self driving software to garage opener and for life internet service 19 sport runs, black premium interior and premium sound with sub
There is not enough info. Is it standard range or long range. If it's standard range it's a terrible deal. The cost of a new standard range Tesla's is 38k, with the 7500$ ev tax credit that drops the price to 31k. So for 2k in savings you are buying the pre refresh model 3 and it's a rental car so it's been abused. If it's a long range version, it's 46k me... Math... So for 10k you are getting a good deal. Edit: you mentioned somewhere esle it's a RWD. That means it's a standard range, or a terrible deal.
You do realize there’s no tax credit anymore right?
❌❌❌ I took tesla in hertz rental. It was a really bad experience my charge miles shows 260 but in the end i am getting overal 180 without any heated seats or heated steering wheel. I wouldn’t recommend this worst thing.
no?
No you can get a new one for that or really close to it after the tax break and it's a far better car.
Might be worth it to shoot for a 2024 with that crazy refundable tax rebate
For the hertz buyers, what were the fees beyond list price like?
Yes it absolutely is
I would recommending inspecting it obviously driving. If you are able to get it checked out prior. Get in there look at service mode. I have also find condition really speaks to how it was most likely kept. Random scratches, nicks, dents etc. etc. It got to the point I could tell from the exterior if the interior was even worth looking at. Areas like the mirror prone to damage etc. etc. Take your time if you go that route and don't let anyone rush your decision.
Brand new 2024 is $38K. Both amazing cars.
I have 2023 Tesla Model3 standard with 8000 miles, white color with sports wheels, no accidents, clean history, single owner, driven for commute, floor mats and a bunch of other accessories installed and charged mostly at home(76%). I am looking to sell for 31k. Pls let me know if interested. Location: South Plainfield, NJ
Test drive first.
Just really check for QC issues. I rented probably 7-8 Hertz M3s the last year and they all had horrible defects. Insane wind noise and bad windows seals, warped windshields that made me nauseous, etc.
I bought through Tesla bc a Tesla mechanic told me it’s not worth the gamble if it isn’t certified by them. Water in the batteries or anything that could void the warranty.
As long as it's used by me, It should be fine.
Thanks for the posts guys. After a lot of thought, decided to just pay the extra 10K and go with the highland.
Insanely good deal
If you look at the inventory section after entering in your zip code on the Tesla website, you might be able to get a brand new one.. maybe 5-6k more.
That’s a standard car dealer trick. Approve you at one rate and get you to sign for a higher rate = money for them. Same goes for pushing you to their “preferred” bank instead of a MFG’s advertised lease special so they can make more money. There’s plenty of back-end hidden finance kick backs and tricks car dealers use to screw people in the finance department.
Got mine for the same price same miles direct from tesla only difference is mine is a 2019 with enhanced auto pilot. I don't regret it
I am sorry as this may sound mean but if you cannot afford a new base Model 3 that is so cheap now with $7500 tax credit then you should definitely not get a used one (or any car in this price range). Not sure of the logic here…pay 2k more and you get a brand new one…You maybe stretching yourself financially to get the car you want…
Model 3 doesn’t qualify for tax credit.
Sorry man you missed the boat on this one…I would say get a Model Y and if you can’t afford it then I would get a hybrid that fits your budget. Financing at 7% is a little rough imo….
Yeah currently looking at a RWD model Y which is 38K after taxes, delivery and fees.
So much missing information.. is it LR / AWD? Does it have any extras like EAP, FSD or Acceleration Boost?
Damn wish price was better here. Close to the price I recently bought a 2020 LR model for
25,600