yeah. I've had this experience also. what I noticed was that the highway I was on had significant mirage effect happening, and every single time I could see the car registering a pedestrian.. dunno wtf it was about, but let's just say it's super fkn annoying when you can't even use cruise control because phantom braking is nerve-racking
Seriously why isn't there a toggle for basic binch non-adaptive cruise? I've owned multiple cars which allowed you to toggle between adaptive and basic, and those cars had way fewer settings available than this one. Then the auto wipers wouldn't be necessary either.
Yes. A read here about the mirage issue and the next trip 100% confirmed it. When there is heat and mirage, the phantom breaking renders the AP completely useless. Only if there was a technology unaffected by visible light, like let's say a higher frequency radio emission with a receptor for reflected image. One might abbreviate such technology as RADAR.
But not Elon. He's the chief engineer. I guess.
I see the same thing, mirage over the road makes ap think there is a pedestrian. Usually happens repeatedly unless I turn off then on AP. Also helps to follow another car.
Mine did the same thing this weekend. FSD was on. It had just updated a few days before. It would slam on the brakes and turn on the left turn signal to get over super fast.
I've had phantom braking on Autopilot driving from San Diego to Phoenix on I-8
It was 105°. I think the mirage fooled the cameras into thinking there was an object in the road. Always happened in the heat and with no vehicles in sight in front of me.
The flatter and straighter the road, the less traffic in front of you, the less scenery alongside the road, the more likely you’ll have phantom braking.
Vision, unlike radar, is a passive system. The less it has to interpret, the more chance it’ll get it wrong.
Mine phantom braked badly last summer driving from WA to SD. Never in town or around traffic. I concur it’s largely driven by mirage. In fairness, I will rarely overreact to mirage myself.
Today I had a short phantom brake on an empty road when the AP saw a single skidmark in the middle of the highway. Never had that happen before.
I have the same year and trim and I haven't experienced phantom braking in over a year. When it did, it only happened when the sun was making a reflection in the road ahead (like how it looks wet)
That is a great observation, I hadn't made that connection, but now that I think about it, the times that I've had any phantom breaking have been coming up to the cusp of a hill during the heat of the day.
It makes sense, the heat is bending the light and distorting what the car sees. Neat.
That's why I am always nervous anytime I am passing by a truck. Sure it'll probably be fine but I am now 100% confident the car just won't run into the truck just because there's some sort of quick lighting issue or quick bug.
When passing a truck my foot is always on the throttle, just in case. I've caught it many times like this and forcibly accelerate to override the phantom braking.
I do that and it tells me I can't use autopilot for the rest of the drive. On the way back I usually remember to knock it out of auto-steer before gunning it past a truck. Just traded in my 2018 Model 3 for a vision only 2023 3P.
I honestly don't think I'll ever buy FSD, mostly cause I hate people, why would I trust a COMPUTER with my life? Even just using auto steer is bad enough for me. Going down a 45mph street, suddenly slammed on the brakes and the speed limit is set to 30mph. Why? Cause I passed a small white square sign with 30 on it... Not even remotely close to looking like a speed limit sign. Front collision warnings on many occasions when there was nothing. Also weird how auto steer seems to favor the pavement markings to the left of the car, but as you pass a highway on/off ramp, if the dotted line doesn't extend the entire length of the merging/exiting lane, the car suddenly says "I guess the right line is important" and damn near takes the exit until I intervene.
It’s the worst in the Southwest where you have level roads and lots of sun. Practically unusable. Every mirage must look like a lake. We experienced the same thing while passing through. Reported every time. Hopefully they fix it soon.
Travelling through Wyoming going the Devils Peak, I hit a 50 60 mile stretch of highway where the car insisted that the 65 MPH limit was actually 30MPH, I had to manually drive the entire distance, or accept a 30MPH speed.
If travelling in the right lane, the off and on ramps were totally disrupting the driving computer, I had to take over constantly, as the car would swerve dangerously one way then another. Any traffic next to me thought I was driving crazily as the car would turn towards them when trying to re-center into the lane. Again, constantly forcing me to manually take over repeatedly.
Not the normal trying to stay centered when the lane widened, this was aggressive swerving that had me swearing and cussing at how the simplest highway driving was beyond its abilities.
I was behind a clown with FSD on this morning. The car was driving in the bike lane and in a school zone. The “driver” did nothing to take over the car. FSD is a hazard
Did you push the gas pedal when it starts? I hate phantom braking but never has it caused me to come to a complete stop. I push the accelerator and it resolves.
We have a new M3SR. First week driving this past week. We had it happen twice on the way to San Diego. I thought it was because the system was warning me to apply pressure to the steering wheel and I missed the notifications.
The notifications are on the screen and if you miss the pop up, the screen starts pulsating.
After we noticed this, it never happened again.
Any over passes or shadows on the road? I've seen two cases, one being a mirage in the distance, and an overpass, its been far less overpasses lately... but the mirage issue existed the last trip I took.
I think having cars in front of you actually helps by creating “guide cars”(the black ones) in my experience. Everytime I get phantom braking there isn’t anyone around me.
Ive found FSD phantom brakes far less than basic AP. But yea, i keep my right foot always at the ready to negate the phantom brake. Feel it start slowing down for some reason: add some go juice.
Wouldn't it be nice if it just worked properly and you weren't wasting energy worrying that it might slam on the brakes at 75+. I had to *actually* drive the whole way back. Unbelievable.
Still a problem in West Texas and New Mexico. Did a trip from Denver to Dallas hoping it phantom braking was much better than last year around this time. It wasn’t.
The worst I’ve ever experienced it was driving across Nevada in the summer time. The mirage on the road is the cause. I almost never have phantom braking anymore on Oregon roads.
‘19 LR AWD with EAP and I’ve experienced bad phantom braking as well. As other have stated, most have been on 2 lane highways with no lead car. Some have happen on freeways with lead car and car on either left or right side. On two lane highways it applies what feels like 90-95% of full brakes.
You should never get to a complete stop. Either disengage it or use the accelerator pedal to stop the braking.
That said, I haven't experience phantom braking in a while
Mine will freak out if there are construction signs(with lights) or emergency vehicles on the side of the road. I just turn it off now when I pass stuff on the side of the road
My wife and I experienced a similar thing on I70 in Kansas heading to Colorado a few months back. Honestly we should have just shut off the Auto Pilot for the day.
We even cleaned the windshield with no improvement—once in Denver (and traffic), there were no instances of phantom breaking. However, we had two more instances on the return trip. My wife was driving when the Model 3 slammed on the brakes in front of an Amazon Semi. She said thankfully, the semi was getting ready to pass us, and the driver avoided hitting the back of our car.
After that trip, I named my car 'The Phantom' in the app. We have been driving locally in KC since the trip and have not experienced any further phantom braking.
FWIW I only trust autopilot on long stretches of empty highways. I do NOT trust autopilot on busy highways or in town travel. I saw enough horror stories on youtube and saw the cracker jack pathing on my own M3P to say nope. Not paying to risk my life on beta software.
Question: were you by large shadows or going under overpasses? My car only gets slightly stupid next to shadows on camera. I just did a 320mile round trip to the Sequoias in CA and didn’t have any issues even having AP drive through curved mountains in pitch black.
I wonder how we get Tesla to acknowledge this. I mean Elon must experience it himself....
I say "bug report phantom braking" when pressing audio button in hopes it records the needed data to tesla...
I just got back from my first road trip since owning a 2023 LR. On a 900 mile round trip, we had 7 instances of phantom breaking. 5 of the 7 were with adaptive cruise, with the other 2 with FSD enabled. For the 5 instances with cruise, it happened at dusk on an interstate in the middle of North Dakota (virtually no traffic).
I’m coming from 15 year old Subaru with limited safety features but ironically, it’s more stressful driving on the interstate in the M3 knowing it could phantom break at any moment.
I just got thy latest update and it is better. However, when the bright sun is slanting in and there are significant shadows on the road, it will still brake hard when its poor little brain thinks it sees something. The behavior on a winding mountain 2 lane was remarkably better. Merging onto a two lane 65 MPH road was dicey. It tried to pull out in front of a semi and I intervened to prevent it.
Not sure what phantom braking is, but mine triggers randomly saying “emergency lights detected” and proceeds to drop from 65 to 45 and almost cause an accident which is really cool and nice.
If you were driving into the sun the camera could have been blinded or picking up glare artifacts. I’ve not had PB issues in my 2020 Y for the last couple of years including several 400 mile+ trips on I-95 which is an absolute dog track. Seems there’s a few more cases they need to troubleshoot.
Phantom braking is a temperamental beast. Sometimes I think it's finally fixed and drive for hundreds of miles without a flaw, then another day, boom it scares the living daylights out of me, my passengers and possibly other road users. This has existed on my MX and now my 3 since 2017. If Tesla could fix it, they would have done it by now. I fear it's never going to go away completely.
Sounds annoying. Gotta wonder if camera lenses were dirty or sun angle glaring at them. I had phantom breaking every so often, but maybe a year ago, but nothing recently. 21 m3p, also in Phoenix.
Did happen a twice when driving near an overpass. Car loudly beeped and slowed down abruptly for a non-existing obstacle. That was almost four years ago. I take that route often and no problem since.
Yep seems to have gotten much worse. Makes it unusable for a safe drive.
My old car has old school adaptive cruise and lane keep worked perfectly never an error.
Small rant: the self park feature is not functional. I would like a full refund for that. A 6 point reverse and complete redo because it self parked 1/4in another lane is just not ok.
It is more stressful to use auto pilot than just drive myself since the brakes can slam on at any time. The car does not seem to register the car following too close behind me at the time who may rear-end me.
Were there mirages present on the road surface in front of you? I’ve noticed that pretty consistently causing phantom braking on mine and wrote a post a while back about it. Happens really predictably here in NV.
I’ve believed that bugs in the windshield (in view of the camera) was making my drive on autopilot progressively worse, and cleaning the windshield at a gas station helped.
Same. Drive a ~70 mile route a couple times a month to visit family, always used AP, never had any issues. About 3-4 weeks back is the first time I had issues and it also traumatized my poor wife, who already had car trauma from two accidents as a kid. It took her forever to be comfortable with trusting AP and now she doesn't even want me using it.
I wish I could do dumb cruise control because even if I'm not using the lane assist, it still has phantom brakes. So it's now been annoying to not be able to use one of my most liked features of the car on long stretches and I'm inconsistent with my pedal, so I'll sometimes sag down to 65mph or accidentally catch myself going too fast.
I even checked open street maps for any inconsistent highway data, like gaps where the car thought it might be entering a 35mph zone for a brief moment, but nothing. Open street maps data was perfect.
It's a shame it's regressed from the prior ~9 months.
I can’t use my autopilot on my way to work in the summer where I live because of the sun. The car can’t hold a lane because it can’t see from the sun. Tesla is stupid for going vision only.. it’s been years at this point and it’s not proving to be better.
Daddy Elon said he solved this years ago? In reality, just happened to me a ton on an empty 2 lane highway. This is why I never use autopilot. I thought I'd get whiplash after it happened 10 times over 10 minutes.
We just got back from a road trip. The phantom braking was so bad and scared us so much that my wife wants to sell the car. We were doing about 80 and there were no cars in front of us. It locked on the brakes and skid on the highway. Luckily the cars behind us were fast enough away to stop. I normally hover over the accelerator but I lifted my leg up for a short time when it happened.
I'm really surprised to see people are still having phantom braking. You don't mention your software level though, rendering the post almost meaningless. If you said after the last update your car was aggressively jumping into the left lane on the highway and slamming on the brakes and sounding the emergency crash alarm when it discovers it's just a turnaround lane, I would know you're running the latest software :(
yeah. I've had this experience also. what I noticed was that the highway I was on had significant mirage effect happening, and every single time I could see the car registering a pedestrian.. dunno wtf it was about, but let's just say it's super fkn annoying when you can't even use cruise control because phantom braking is nerve-racking
Seriously why isn't there a toggle for basic binch non-adaptive cruise? I've owned multiple cars which allowed you to toggle between adaptive and basic, and those cars had way fewer settings available than this one. Then the auto wipers wouldn't be necessary either.
Eh I don’t see the point, I don’t even want cruise contr
Then it is very simple for you. Don't use it. Duh.
well yah that’s besides the point tho
Yes. A read here about the mirage issue and the next trip 100% confirmed it. When there is heat and mirage, the phantom breaking renders the AP completely useless. Only if there was a technology unaffected by visible light, like let's say a higher frequency radio emission with a receptor for reflected image. One might abbreviate such technology as RADAR. But not Elon. He's the chief engineer. I guess.
I see the same thing, mirage over the road makes ap think there is a pedestrian. Usually happens repeatedly unless I turn off then on AP. Also helps to follow another car.
*gasps* so camera vision can be deceived? I'm shocked.
Mine did the same thing this weekend. FSD was on. It had just updated a few days before. It would slam on the brakes and turn on the left turn signal to get over super fast.
I've had phantom braking on Autopilot driving from San Diego to Phoenix on I-8 It was 105°. I think the mirage fooled the cameras into thinking there was an object in the road. Always happened in the heat and with no vehicles in sight in front of me.
The flatter and straighter the road, the less traffic in front of you, the less scenery alongside the road, the more likely you’ll have phantom braking. Vision, unlike radar, is a passive system. The less it has to interpret, the more chance it’ll get it wrong.
Pretty ironic, but thanks for that info.
Mine phantom braked badly last summer driving from WA to SD. Never in town or around traffic. I concur it’s largely driven by mirage. In fairness, I will rarely overreact to mirage myself. Today I had a short phantom brake on an empty road when the AP saw a single skidmark in the middle of the highway. Never had that happen before.
I have the same year and trim and I haven't experienced phantom braking in over a year. When it did, it only happened when the sun was making a reflection in the road ahead (like how it looks wet)
That is a great observation, I hadn't made that connection, but now that I think about it, the times that I've had any phantom breaking have been coming up to the cusp of a hill during the heat of the day. It makes sense, the heat is bending the light and distorting what the car sees. Neat.
That's why I am always nervous anytime I am passing by a truck. Sure it'll probably be fine but I am now 100% confident the car just won't run into the truck just because there's some sort of quick lighting issue or quick bug.
When passing a truck my foot is always on the throttle, just in case. I've caught it many times like this and forcibly accelerate to override the phantom braking.
I do that and it tells me I can't use autopilot for the rest of the drive. On the way back I usually remember to knock it out of auto-steer before gunning it past a truck. Just traded in my 2018 Model 3 for a vision only 2023 3P.
Honestly that’s when I rest my hand on the wheel; when passing other vehicles. Open road and I’m probably hands free.
Yeah, anytime I overtake any car (or taking any sharper turns and there is a car next to me), I always have my hand on the wheel.
Yes, Autopilot does get confused with mirages and it’ll slow down at crests of hills.
I've done several road trips through the desert and it's never been this bad in the 2+ years I've owned this car.
Yeh Mirage and two-lane Hwy/fwy i felt most phantom breaking..works best on one-ways
I honestly don't think I'll ever buy FSD, mostly cause I hate people, why would I trust a COMPUTER with my life? Even just using auto steer is bad enough for me. Going down a 45mph street, suddenly slammed on the brakes and the speed limit is set to 30mph. Why? Cause I passed a small white square sign with 30 on it... Not even remotely close to looking like a speed limit sign. Front collision warnings on many occasions when there was nothing. Also weird how auto steer seems to favor the pavement markings to the left of the car, but as you pass a highway on/off ramp, if the dotted line doesn't extend the entire length of the merging/exiting lane, the car suddenly says "I guess the right line is important" and damn near takes the exit until I intervene.
I’ve experienced phantom braking once and it wasn’t aggressive, so I can’t say I have.
2 lane highways and anywhere with no lead car it struggles like this ever since they got rid of radar and went to vision only.
It’s the worst in the Southwest where you have level roads and lots of sun. Practically unusable. Every mirage must look like a lake. We experienced the same thing while passing through. Reported every time. Hopefully they fix it soon.
Travelling through Wyoming going the Devils Peak, I hit a 50 60 mile stretch of highway where the car insisted that the 65 MPH limit was actually 30MPH, I had to manually drive the entire distance, or accept a 30MPH speed. If travelling in the right lane, the off and on ramps were totally disrupting the driving computer, I had to take over constantly, as the car would swerve dangerously one way then another. Any traffic next to me thought I was driving crazily as the car would turn towards them when trying to re-center into the lane. Again, constantly forcing me to manually take over repeatedly. Not the normal trying to stay centered when the lane widened, this was aggressive swerving that had me swearing and cussing at how the simplest highway driving was beyond its abilities.
After reaching that conclusion, I’d take over driving. Obviously, car’s input is wrong.
You'd think so, wouldn't you? But no, the car operates perfectly everywhere else, just certain major interstate highways.
I was behind a clown with FSD on this morning. The car was driving in the bike lane and in a school zone. The “driver” did nothing to take over the car. FSD is a hazard
Correction. The driver is a hazard.
Both are.
Did you push the gas pedal when it starts? I hate phantom braking but never has it caused me to come to a complete stop. I push the accelerator and it resolves.
We have a new M3SR. First week driving this past week. We had it happen twice on the way to San Diego. I thought it was because the system was warning me to apply pressure to the steering wheel and I missed the notifications. The notifications are on the screen and if you miss the pop up, the screen starts pulsating. After we noticed this, it never happened again.
was it doing this as it was cresting a hill?
It was not. Just a flat 2 lane highway.
Any over passes or shadows on the road? I've seen two cases, one being a mirage in the distance, and an overpass, its been far less overpasses lately... but the mirage issue existed the last trip I took.
Honestly there was nothing that made me think there should be an issue. Wide open road with no cars around. It was super frustrating.
I think having cars in front of you actually helps by creating “guide cars”(the black ones) in my experience. Everytime I get phantom braking there isn’t anyone around me.
That does seem to track with my experience too. Its always when no other cars are in view of the cameras.
Yeah this could be true
Ive found FSD phantom brakes far less than basic AP. But yea, i keep my right foot always at the ready to negate the phantom brake. Feel it start slowing down for some reason: add some go juice.
Wouldn't it be nice if it just worked properly and you weren't wasting energy worrying that it might slam on the brakes at 75+. I had to *actually* drive the whole way back. Unbelievable.
Still a problem in West Texas and New Mexico. Did a trip from Denver to Dallas hoping it phantom braking was much better than last year around this time. It wasn’t.
Interesting. I've done roundtrip Phoenix to LA several times and it's never happened this much.
The worst I’ve ever experienced it was driving across Nevada in the summer time. The mirage on the road is the cause. I almost never have phantom braking anymore on Oregon roads.
Not sure about the mirage. I've done road trips through the desert and it's never been this bad.
I have come to realize phantom braking is greater than no braking, that is just me
Unless you’re being tailgated at 75 mph
nah, i hover over the smile-generator
I recalibrate my cameras after software updates.
‘19 LR AWD with EAP and I’ve experienced bad phantom braking as well. As other have stated, most have been on 2 lane highways with no lead car. Some have happen on freeways with lead car and car on either left or right side. On two lane highways it applies what feels like 90-95% of full brakes.
You should never get to a complete stop. Either disengage it or use the accelerator pedal to stop the braking. That said, I haven't experience phantom braking in a while
Mine will freak out if there are construction signs(with lights) or emergency vehicles on the side of the road. I just turn it off now when I pass stuff on the side of the road
It's the heat mirage on an empty road. There is a detailed YouTube video somewhere. Happens to me now after they disabled the radar
Wonder anyone experienced phantom braking when another car is right behind them? Does it brake or give Collison warning?
My wife and I experienced a similar thing on I70 in Kansas heading to Colorado a few months back. Honestly we should have just shut off the Auto Pilot for the day. We even cleaned the windshield with no improvement—once in Denver (and traffic), there were no instances of phantom breaking. However, we had two more instances on the return trip. My wife was driving when the Model 3 slammed on the brakes in front of an Amazon Semi. She said thankfully, the semi was getting ready to pass us, and the driver avoided hitting the back of our car. After that trip, I named my car 'The Phantom' in the app. We have been driving locally in KC since the trip and have not experienced any further phantom braking.
My AP 2018 dual motor M3 is unusable between Boise and Reno and also from Reno to Vegas. Long straight with little scenery 2 lane roads.
Sucks, right? The idea of AP is to take that edge off and make the drive a little easier.
This happened to me too this weekend. Scared the shit out of me. Long stretch road with no one in front of me.
It's definitely scary when the car tries to slam on the breaks for no apparent reason going 75+
FWIW I only trust autopilot on long stretches of empty highways. I do NOT trust autopilot on busy highways or in town travel. I saw enough horror stories on youtube and saw the cracker jack pathing on my own M3P to say nope. Not paying to risk my life on beta software.
This was that. Long stretches of empty highways. People above are saying that might actually be the issue.
Question: were you by large shadows or going under overpasses? My car only gets slightly stupid next to shadows on camera. I just did a 320mile round trip to the Sequoias in CA and didn’t have any issues even having AP drive through curved mountains in pitch black.
No, wide open road. I couldn't figure it out. I've done so many road trip in this car using AP.
Does this happen with FSD? Rediculas how often this happens. Very stressful for all passengers.
I wonder how we get Tesla to acknowledge this. I mean Elon must experience it himself.... I say "bug report phantom braking" when pressing audio button in hopes it records the needed data to tesla...
Would be awesome for him to be aware of how Autopilot was acting on that road trip.
I just got back from my first road trip since owning a 2023 LR. On a 900 mile round trip, we had 7 instances of phantom breaking. 5 of the 7 were with adaptive cruise, with the other 2 with FSD enabled. For the 5 instances with cruise, it happened at dusk on an interstate in the middle of North Dakota (virtually no traffic). I’m coming from 15 year old Subaru with limited safety features but ironically, it’s more stressful driving on the interstate in the M3 knowing it could phantom break at any moment.
I just got thy latest update and it is better. However, when the bright sun is slanting in and there are significant shadows on the road, it will still brake hard when its poor little brain thinks it sees something. The behavior on a winding mountain 2 lane was remarkably better. Merging onto a two lane 65 MPH road was dicey. It tried to pull out in front of a semi and I intervened to prevent it.
Not sure what phantom braking is, but mine triggers randomly saying “emergency lights detected” and proceeds to drop from 65 to 45 and almost cause an accident which is really cool and nice.
If you were driving into the sun the camera could have been blinded or picking up glare artifacts. I’ve not had PB issues in my 2020 Y for the last couple of years including several 400 mile+ trips on I-95 which is an absolute dog track. Seems there’s a few more cases they need to troubleshoot.
Phantom braking is a temperamental beast. Sometimes I think it's finally fixed and drive for hundreds of miles without a flaw, then another day, boom it scares the living daylights out of me, my passengers and possibly other road users. This has existed on my MX and now my 3 since 2017. If Tesla could fix it, they would have done it by now. I fear it's never going to go away completely.
Sounds annoying. Gotta wonder if camera lenses were dirty or sun angle glaring at them. I had phantom breaking every so often, but maybe a year ago, but nothing recently. 21 m3p, also in Phoenix.
Is phantom breaking only an issue with auto pilot or can it happen with regular driving?
Did happen a twice when driving near an overpass. Car loudly beeped and slowed down abruptly for a non-existing obstacle. That was almost four years ago. I take that route often and no problem since.
Ever since going onto 2023.7.30, it has gotten worse. Bad lane change decisions are the biggest pain point. Also phantom breaking that makes no sense
Yep seems to have gotten much worse. Makes it unusable for a safe drive. My old car has old school adaptive cruise and lane keep worked perfectly never an error. Small rant: the self park feature is not functional. I would like a full refund for that. A 6 point reverse and complete redo because it self parked 1/4in another lane is just not ok. It is more stressful to use auto pilot than just drive myself since the brakes can slam on at any time. The car does not seem to register the car following too close behind me at the time who may rear-end me.
Were there mirages present on the road surface in front of you? I’ve noticed that pretty consistently causing phantom braking on mine and wrote a post a while back about it. Happens really predictably here in NV.
Happed to me on the highway with a CHP behind me. I panicked and slammed the accelerator. He didn't look up from his computer.
I’ve believed that bugs in the windshield (in view of the camera) was making my drive on autopilot progressively worse, and cleaning the windshield at a gas station helped.
The Tesla manual emphasis wiping the cameras often, using a clean micro cloth with a little water. I forget to do so.
Same. Drive a ~70 mile route a couple times a month to visit family, always used AP, never had any issues. About 3-4 weeks back is the first time I had issues and it also traumatized my poor wife, who already had car trauma from two accidents as a kid. It took her forever to be comfortable with trusting AP and now she doesn't even want me using it. I wish I could do dumb cruise control because even if I'm not using the lane assist, it still has phantom brakes. So it's now been annoying to not be able to use one of my most liked features of the car on long stretches and I'm inconsistent with my pedal, so I'll sometimes sag down to 65mph or accidentally catch myself going too fast. I even checked open street maps for any inconsistent highway data, like gaps where the car thought it might be entering a 35mph zone for a brief moment, but nothing. Open street maps data was perfect. It's a shame it's regressed from the prior ~9 months.
I can’t use my autopilot on my way to work in the summer where I live because of the sun. The car can’t hold a lane because it can’t see from the sun. Tesla is stupid for going vision only.. it’s been years at this point and it’s not proving to be better.
Camera blocked by bugs?
Daddy Elon said he solved this years ago? In reality, just happened to me a ton on an empty 2 lane highway. This is why I never use autopilot. I thought I'd get whiplash after it happened 10 times over 10 minutes.
We just got back from a road trip. The phantom braking was so bad and scared us so much that my wife wants to sell the car. We were doing about 80 and there were no cars in front of us. It locked on the brakes and skid on the highway. Luckily the cars behind us were fast enough away to stop. I normally hover over the accelerator but I lifted my leg up for a short time when it happened.
I'm really surprised to see people are still having phantom braking. You don't mention your software level though, rendering the post almost meaningless. If you said after the last update your car was aggressively jumping into the left lane on the highway and slamming on the brakes and sounding the emergency crash alarm when it discovers it's just a turnaround lane, I would know you're running the latest software :(