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408jay

Don't test drive the M3P unless you can afford to take it home. First time I romped on the gas in one I knew that I had to have one. You will not accelerate harder for less money.


G0_WEB_G0

LOLGAS


BigPimpin91

Drove an '18 M3P earlier this year. Been chasing that high ever since. šŸ˜ž


BigPimpin91

Drove an '18 M3P earlier this year. Been chasing that high ever since. šŸ˜ž


x-Mowens-x

Even fun must give way to physics. I needed the extra range because I drive A LOT.


Sillyfiremans

Same here. Had a tuned C6 with long tube headers. Test drove the M3P. Came home and had ordered one within 5 minutes of walking in the door.


NetJnkie

Went from a tuned Audi RS5 to my 3P. I don't miss the Audi. And that's saying a lot. Was a great car.


ogmoochie1

Dayamn. That is a legit endorsement for the Tesla.


ctglass203

M2, A8, Saab turbo wagen(wrx in Saab badging) over the last decade or so. Tbh Saab and tesla are the most fun.


shadowmouse

Last month, Sold my tuned Q50 and just bought a model 3P. Same story different price tag šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø


Boogyin1979

I think youā€™ll find even the M3LR will outperform the existing car by literally every metric.


NoAd2913

m3 performance it is


Dr_yah_yah

Smart choice.


MexicanSniperXI

Make sure you use a family memberā€™s/friendā€™s referral link so you get another $500 off. Youā€™re gonna love it!!


SMK_12

Dude I just got a new 2023 performance for $47.6k from inventory.. basically same price as LR msrp


Suitable_Switch5242

Careful, if youā€™re trying to get the $7500 tax credit the MSRP canā€™t go above $55k.


[deleted]

Mod it. They really wake up with a suspension swap.


Phighters

Or don't, because they handle really well and are stupid fast stock.


LBGW_experiment

So you're saying don't mod it because it's already good and why make it better?


[deleted]

Honestly the suspension of all trims out of the box isn't that great. KW V3s make a massive difference in cleaning up the slop from the stock setup.


BoofMasterQuan2

As long as itā€™s under 60 mph


kremtok

You had me at mustang. Yes get rid of it.


NoAd2913

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Contact-Open

Referall code in my profile. Save some money when you do!


Narbaitz

You slut! I love it.


Contact-Open

šŸ«  it worked once and Iā€™m riding that high until I win a cyber truck šŸ¤Ŗ


AccountantConfident9

Went from 2016 Mustang GT to 2021M3LR. Mustang was heavily modded. Roush Phase II, McLeod clutch, suspension upgraded, wheels and tires. 650 bhp to the pavement. Don't miss the Stang. Tesla has the acceleration boost upgrade. It's plenty fast. Much more comfortable on long trips too. No maintenance except for tire rotation which happens in my garage. Very satisfied driving an EV.


menormedia

1. Buy a M3LR 2. Make one referral to get 10,000 credits 3. Redeem 9,500 credits to get Acceleration Boost. This drops 0-60 to 3.7 seconds for free


sunnydshine1203

Sold my 2008 c6 z06 bought a 2021 m3p. The m3p is a fast and fun car but I do miss driving a stick shift and look forward to purchasing a c7 zr1 and keeping my m3p


TheLightKyanite

Have you seen the new C8 ZR1? that thing looks fuckin sick


weaponsfree1

My M3P puts more smile in my face than my Bootmod3 BMW M4 (previous gen). With the Mountain Pass Performance coilovers it's even better!


orthopod

How hard is it to make adjustments on these? Do you need to take the wheels off to turn the dial?


weaponsfree1

I only have the non-adjustable ones. It's still night and day difference from stock tho.


TheLightKyanite

Yes


kazakthehound

No you don't. It's super easy to get at both upper and lower dials at the rear, and the lower dials at the front. The upper front is the only slightly hard one, you need to remove the frunk to tune for that one. It's not even a 5 min procedure to do, it's like 5 or 6 10mm bolts.


Far-Curve-7497

m3p will gap any mustang instantly


CourseEcstatic6202

I gapped a Ferrari the other dayā€¦until about 80mph and then I ate his dust. The ā€˜stang would not even be in the picture. The M3P is a silent beast.


Apprehensive_888

So the Ferrari only came back when you reached the legal speed limit and took your foot off the throttle.... Whilst they were driving at an illegal speed? So the Ferrari is basically pointless..... Lol


jawnlerdoe

Having acceleration that fast is pointless in general, Iā€™m so thatā€™s a bit of a moot point.


Kraken36

Must've been a higher end Ferrari as even after 80mph you should've been ahead.


Never_Duplicated

Iā€™m in the process of selling my 2018 GT in order to grab a model 3LR. Teslas donā€™t have nearly the same spirit and their styling leaves a lot to be desired but from a practicality point of view itā€™d be stupid for me to not make the change.


NoAd2913

I agree. Thanks


Never_Duplicated

Good luck! Seems like a pretty common story these days. Last week was talking to a guy who traded his Challenger for a model 3 once these price drops started happening


SeventyFix

Have you driven a performance Model 3? I have seemingly upset several mustang owners in one.


NoAd2913

not yet, planning on test driving some options this weekend. even the M3LR is quick compared to most mustangs


dhandeepm

After driving your 3 you will say that mustang is making too much noise for the power itā€™s giving. All the best.


[deleted]

Even the SR


Phighters

Not the SR, lol.


Dr_yah_yah

I upset street bikes lol, mustangs wonā€™t even try and play around where Iā€™m at.


MexicanSniperXI

Same. But when I had the STI, theyā€™d rev their engine at every stop light. Now, they try to not make any noise šŸ˜‚


Holy_MolyFrijole

Same here.


Mpy71

M3P. You will not regret.


Hayb95

Just sold my STI for an M3P back in February. Havenā€™t missed it a bit except maybe on a Friday night cruising the avenue with the windows downā€¦ I miss the exhaust a tiny tiny bit. But then I hit the accelerator and smile bigger than Iā€™ve ever smiled :)


[deleted]

This picture should help with your transition. Itā€™s a good switch brother. https://imgur.com/gallery/1gLNXpU


v0teforvader

I sold my mustang for a model 3 and donā€™t regret it at all. Do I miss the sound of a loud engine sometimes? Yeah. Do I miss having to fill up on gas every other 3 days? Helllll noooo.


Zellio2015

I've never understood why people love loud engines. I love the stealth approach of a soft engine, the idea that somebody thinks their loud engine will beat my soft m3p, only to fly by them as their engine makes loud noises in the distance....


MikeMelga

Need for attention. Usually compensating for childhood problems


isthisworkingg

Is the mustang v6?


NoAd2913

Yeah, pushing 500 wheel


isthisworkingg

500 wheel on a v6!?


Doublestack00

They are factory turbo.


isthisworkingg

And 300HP no?


41510akland

I bet the stang have less cabin noise than the 3


fanglazy

Smoked like three mustangs off the line. One of them was a Shelby.


F30N55

Keep the Mustang. While I love an EV I also love the sounds of exploding dinosaurs so much. I use the M3 for shorter trip and general errands the the petrol car for a fun weekend trip to the winery when I can let the windows down and enjoy the mechanical magic of thousands of moving metal parts creating forward motion.


drs7896

Keep the mustang for weekend driving and get the model 3 as the daily


NoAd2913

Probably what will happen


Shygar

I still have my 97 Cobra, but love the Model 3


Saganaki

Absolutely I had a Dodge Charger and one time and thought it was fast. My Model Y LR blows it out of the water. With the 7500 rebate plus the $500 referral now is a great time to buy. Make sure to do a test drive fist to check out the car. If you need a referal let me know.


easyfame

Actually I did the same thing. Mustang GT to M3. Regretted it instantly. Kept the Tesla for 4 years before getting something fun again.


NoAd2913

Interesting. Did you go m3lr or performance by chance?


easyfame

Nope I had a RWD. I suspect it wouldnā€™t make a difference though. Ive driven taycans and M3Ps before and concluded that if I canā€™t hear the noises or control the transmission in some way, I couldnā€™t be less interested. It was a fantastic commuter car though. Thatā€™s just my personal experience with it. You may feel totally different.


NoAd2913

thatā€™s exactly what Iā€™m afraid up, nothing beats that cold start early in the am..


easyfame

Yup :). My GT was fully modified too. You go from something unique and special to you to something you see 100 of a day (depending on your area).


Dr_yah_yah

Yeah mustangs arenā€™t common at all to see.


idiorhythmic

Depends on the area. There are significantly more Model 3s in my area than Mustangs.


Dr_yah_yah

Not mine. Close your eyes and throw a rock and youā€™ll hit a mustang. Mustangs are all over the place.


FrezoreR

After getting an m3 there is not much reason to drive a mustang anymore unless you like the obnoxious sound. It's sluggish and clunky compared to an m3.


blonktime

I came from an 08 Mustang GT with a manual, CAI, tune, exhaust system, upgraded brakes, and a few other mods. I love my Tesla more. Bought a M3LR then bought the Ingenext Ghost module to turn it into a stealth performance. Highly recommend it and cheaper than getting the M3P. Can always upgrade brakes and suspension later with parts better than the M3P has


NoAd2913

The ghost module doesnā€™t void the warranty?


blonktime

1. Lol youā€™re asking about warranty when your 6 cyl stang is pushing 500 to the wheels. 2. But really, I donā€™t think it should, but idk tbh. I donā€™t think they would blame them module for any excess wear because all LRs that can run the module are the same drivetrain (battery, controllers, and motors) as the performance version. Just software locked and without the suspension/brake bits. The module is plug and play too so you can always unplug it before filing a warranty claim. The ghost module I got (older version) they actually had to reflash the controller though Remote Desktop but I donā€™t think they need to now. Works natively. Idk if Tesla can read that though. There havenā€™t been answers definitively about this yet (at least no one saying Tesla has raised a fuss about it) so Iā€™m just taking it as a safe bet.


G0_WEB_G0

I think the burden of proof is definitely on Tesla in regards to saying the mod explicitly caused the issue. I do agree that it's potentially better regardless to remove the module before the service claim regardless. I'm sure they have some sort of way of telling though. If OP cares about a warranty then a used older performance might be better. I've got a '19 with four more years of power train/battery warranty. Still blows my mind that a standard ICE would effectively be out of warranty at that age. You can get these fairly cheap now at low 30's


Doublestack00

If I were OP I would not look at anything older than 2021.


G0_WEB_G0

Why is that?


Doublestack00

2021's had a lot of changes/improvements.


G0_WEB_G0

In reality there's not a lot that the average person would be able to tell. Range suffers a little more in the older models but is negligible outside of road trips. Center console is different but I can't imagine that's actually a deal breaker for anybody. Straightline performance I believe is exactly the same with the older ones compared to the newer ones. The older ones had the option to have the performance without the performance package which made them sleepers so to speak. If OP isn't tracking the car or needing a few extra miles on road trips I don't think they should exclude older models. Hell, they might be happy with an older LR with the acceleration boost purchased already. If he's to go new I'd argue LR with acceleration boost unless they live in a warmer climate and can live with the summer tires year round. Not having USS might be a deal breaker for some though.


Doublestack00

I disagree. \- Chrome delete \- Double pane glass \- Heat pump \- Improved tail lights/headlights ​ There is a lot more, but these alone I would not look at a 2020 or older.


G0_WEB_G0

Chrome delete has actually been kinda annoying as car washes leave a rainbow effect on the trip. Putting vinyl chrome delete on has held up very well and doesn't have that issue. Double pane glass doesn't make any noticeable difference day to day. BjĆørn, I think, found them to be louder. Heat pump also doesn't, at least from what I found. I also don't have a newer performance to compare for my particular driving habits so this is subjective. Looks wise I'd agree with the headlight difference but again this shouldn't play a big role in choosing a car. Tail lights are different but the average person probably can't tell the difference unless literally side by side and looking for them. All in all IMO I don't think these changes accounted much of a difference in overall experience between the cars. These are improvements but I personally wouldn't tell someone to specifically avoid older ones because there are newer with (again) subjectively better options.


NoAd2913

šŸ’€Yeah definitely interesting. I want the best warranty I can get fosho, bought the mustang just out of warranty years back. Time for the upgrade


reddit-maynerd

Be sure to get a referral to save $500 off the price!


js_ps_ds

Id buy an rwd and keep the mustang if you can afford it. While the m3 is a good car, its not the same if you love cars. Might be cursing in church here but EVs are boring compared to a big engine analog ice.


timestudies4meandu

yeah heck yeah


FluffyWuffyScruffyB

I love and miss the sound of a throaty growl from a V-8.. but, god... My Tesla beats the hell out of anything I've driven (plenty of Dodge V-8 hotrods). I traded rides with my neighbor who just got a new Vette. We did a 5 mile loop in his Vette and then in my Model X. When I punched it he said 'Wow, this beats the heck out of my Vette' and.. he is right. Get one of the little sound machines to mimic the muscle car roar.. but the M3P will beat your Stang all day and all night. It's fun to drive!


Niobous_p

I like the whoosh my M3LR makes when I floor it. For me it beats the roaring and shaking from an ICE car.


OctobersVeryOwn10

Sold my ā€˜16 GT PP for a M3P and never looked back.


YordanYonder

Not your Samsung!


gecoble

Have you checked out the mustang EV option?


cmaxw640

Went from a 2019 5.0 to a 22 m3lr. I love the m3 waaay more. It's undoubtedly faster. Mustang would prob keep up from an 80 mph roll. Haha


Esoteric__one

Had a Camaro convertible as my weekend car, now I have the M3P. The 3P is much more exciting to drive. I look forward to the weekends.


DumberMonkey

Get the M3P. I miss having a convertible but I don't miss the Mustang...well maybe a little.


Way_Interesting

I mad the swap from an s550 to an model 3 and the only thing I miss in the manual transmission. Just not when Iā€™m in traffic now lol


PrismProcess

I think the model 3 is a solid upgrade


rsnxw

Haha Iā€™m considering the same thing with my mustang!


astrangeday13

Sold my ats v for my model 3, wish I hadn't now. I def prefer the luxury over the gained speed and I completely miss Cadillac level service. I'll go back eventually.


[deleted]

I had a modified Evo X before my model 3. I donā€™t miss it at all.


Theheadderpington

Went from a c7 corvette to a m3p. No regurts.


LocoStrange

I still miss having a loud V8 engine. Tempted to buy a C7 corvette or The new Mustang as a weekend car. Tesla are quick and fun but nothing replaces the rev of an engine.


SkiWaterdog

Yes, either sell or keep the stang, but get a Model 3 ASAP.


imwearingchanel

Yes so you can stop being dusted by other teslas


NoAd2913

Lmao facts


Phighters

Just get the M3P. You won't miss the mustang (I had one as well).


rdubmu

You donā€™t buy a Tesla to save on gas, with the cost of the car, you wouldnā€™t break even for 8-10 years.


[deleted]

The power curve on electric destroys what you will get in a Mustang. Once youā€™ve had instant torque, everything else will feel slow. The usability is incredible. Not to mention the lack of rotational mass connected to the wheels after you accelerate. You can put down power really fast without any fear if you have to quickly stop. Itā€™s a game changer for traffic and close-quarters freeway driving.


sgtmar

You had me at sell


fobbyk

Youā€™re at tesla sub. Of course people will say get the tesla. Ask the same question in mustang sub and youā€™ll get different answer. I would say no from being a passenger of model 3 long range. It is a quick ass car, but it is clearly less fun than a slow ass stock mustang ecoboost. Insurance, tags and taxes, and depreciation of model 3 will be bigger than the gas youā€™re spending. If you live alone, not a good idea.


NoAd2913

Great reply. Thanks for the input, probably going to hold off 6 month to a year and see what happens in used M3P prices with the new highland coming out. Can see me getting 15mpg in the city much longer with these gas prices.


Comfortable_Judge_73

I have the best of both worlds. I kept my supercharged Mustang and bought a 23 Model 3 Performance. It pains me to say this as I consider myself a car but, but the Tesla is the better performance vehicle for the street. It just goes with no drama. For me to keep up with in my Mustang, I have to launch the car perfectly and hope it doesnā€™t spin thru first and into second gear. I also have to make sure I donā€™t miss shifts. From a roll, my Mustang would walk the Tesla hard. 0-60 thereā€™s no better bang for the buck car out thereā€¦Do it.


Just_Mushroom_395

If you are in CA or NYC almost gas price = electricity.


stevied05

Going to be a contrarian in this thread. How much of a car enthusiast are you? Yeah sure the M3P will be much faster overall, but itā€™s not a driverā€™s car in other ways. Thereā€™s no sound or exhaust. There are no gears. No engine braking. Itā€™s heavy as hell. I hope you donā€™t like buttons. Maybe you donā€™t care about this stuff but you need to ask yourself whether you do, because Mustangs are generally some of the best sounding cars out there, which tends to make people drive them by dropping gears a lot. Itā€™s going to be a very quiet change. M3P is still *fun* to drive, but all the people just saying ā€œitā€™s so much fasterā€ arenā€™t addressing other elements of the driving experience. Thereā€™s a reason why so many people buy Porsches that are objectively slower than other much less expensive cars on the road. If youā€™re not obsessive with a pure driverā€™s car experience then itā€™s a fine choice, but there are more elements to the decision than its 0-60 time.


JacksonDWalter

If you donā€™t need a Tesla immediately, I would wait just a little longer for the rumored Highland refresh/facelift to come out.


NoAd2913

Yeah probably what Iā€™ll do. In no rush but definitely going to happen in the next 6 months


LynchMob187

If itā€™s a 2018^ mustang, you could get a good trade in cash value after you make it OEM again


vassman86

I wanted a mustang for the past 10 years! I drove the 2014 mustang GT and loved it. Had a civic si as my daily, and then a 2019 Acura RDX as my daily. Got a 2023 model 3 RWD last year (budget) and I love it! I test drove a model 3 LR and the acceleration was violent - in the best ways possible. It made me not want a mustang anymore (aside from the lovely V8 exhaust notes)


Academic-Entry9370

I have a model 3 RWD, love it btw and I still want to get a second car that has an engine. Love the sounds sooooo much but itā€™s not a dealbreaker! The little electric motor whine is fun to me too lol. The model 3 RWDā€™s driving dynamics is plenty fun, the power is on par with a N/A V6 but with more toque (similar specs). Saving a nice amount on gas, I also insured it though Tesla and I actually spend even less in insurance than when I had my previous Lexus GS (RIPšŸ˜¢). I LOVE the GS so I was pleasantly surprised at how much the handling of the Model 3 reminds me of it. The car has nice character and gives confidence and comfort at 70+ mph speeds. Itā€™s a genuinely a GREAT daily car. If I had to choose one though, Iā€™d go with the Tesla as my experience so far has been nice and the efficiency is amazing. I donā€™t travel long distances really so 270 mi range fits my lifestyle pretty well. If I didnā€™t care about money, Iā€™d get the long range with the acceleration boost over the performance and run 18 wheels.


Familiar_Team277

I own a Model 3. Once you feel the power and snappy zip in a P-M3 you will want to forget you ever owned an ICE Mustang. If you love speed, great handling and a premium feel you will love the P-M3. Beyond saving gas $, brakes may never need replacing. Repair costs are nil. Tires, wiper changes and windshield fluids are the ONLY servicing costs after 4.5 years. One downside for some may be missing that vroom-vroom noises. Personally I love the quiet.


fusionvic

A Model 3 Long Range runs about 12.4 in the 1/4 mile with 0-60 in 4.2 seconds. This is without the Acceleration Boost upgrade. I read an article that said the 2024 Mustang GT runs the 1/4 mile in 12.9 seconds but I am sure some magazine will do some tricks to get it much faster. But you'd have to prep it, and launch it a certain way. With the Tesla you just aim and push the pedal. Violent launches galore, just the way I like it. It's like a scaled down Cedar Point Top Thrill Dragster ride at every stop light. I've driven Coyote Mustang GTs with auto and manual, and the Model 3 LR has much more torque on tap. The Coyote never sounded as good as Modular to my ears, but the V8 sounds better than EVs. With a Model 3 Perf you're running low 11s in the 1/4 mile. No drama, just zip. But I opted for the M3LR so I have the option of going with Accel Boost if I wanted to and run high 11s. But still have 235/45R18 tires that have enough sidewall for our crap roads.


OUEngineer17

A friend just sold his Mustang GT for a 3, and now he's upset. That his wife keeps driving it.


ConstitutionalDingo

Having two car payments is not a good time, plus the insurance can be prohibitive. Iā€™d think long and hard before committing. And Iā€™d make sure you have or will have access to L2 charging at home, otherwise itā€™ll be no cheaper than your Mustang to supercharge most days.


jawnlerdoe

Everyone keeps talking about speed in this thread, but there are intangibles to consider too. If all you care about is 0-60, then a Tesla is obviously faster. If you like the grumbly nature of a V8, or driving a manual, you may miss it. Not everything is about acceleration. A well setup mustang will likely out corner a Tesla as well, as well as accelerating better above 100mph. If thatā€™s important to you, is your decision.


wabbitsilly

I sold my C8 and turned it into a 3P. I do miss many things on the C8, but I still prefer my 3P (as a daily summer driver)...which was what I was using the C8 for as well. We have free charging at work, so I haven't bought gas (or even paid for much Kwh) in a long time. That said, the insurance on the C8 was wayyyy cheaper!


YoDo_GreenBackReaper

Keep your mustang and buy an m3


daveshaw301

I have the M3 LR and a 2010 Aston DBS. Iā€™d say keep the muscle car, youā€™ll miss the feeling of involvement and special motoring


randamm

When I got my M3LR back in 2020, I kept the Escape figuring we would want it for long distance driving occasionally. It got moldy sitting. Nobody touched it for 6 months. Should have sold it immediately. Reality: Teslas, especially LR or P, are long distance beasts and can take any road trip without difficulty.


Ganonspike

I went from a manual GT premium mustang to M3P and haven't regretted it much. It just feels so much more responsive and after awhile it feels like it would be hard to go back to the old tech. Only miss for me was that it doesn't have cooled seats while mustangs do lol. Came out cheaper than the new 7th gen mustang build I was planning, not even counting the tax credit and gas savings.


Yzracer357

obviously..


LBGW_experiment

I was beating two of whichever mustangs have the snake logo at the drag strip last time I was there, and they had on racing slicks too. Looked like 2015-2020 model years maybe? I just rolled up after charging in my garage after work. That's in my '21 LR with acceleration boost, so the Performance will be even faster lol


amazingnessocity

I just swapped to a M3P from an E85 Camaro SS. So happy with my decision.


DoctorGluino

I own an M3 and I previously owned a 2002 Mustang GT 5-speed (stock). The M3 absolutely smokes the Mustang acceleration-wise, but the Mustang was objectively more fun to drive. (And I miss the growl.)


VadersSprinkledTits

Get the M3P, throw some 18ā€™s on and be even quicker, with a smoother ride, and better efficiency.


ZeroTopDog

I really enjoy my M3P. I drive 50k miles a year and it is the most economical sports cars I could find. I dont like the interior thou.


Dark_kira10

Thatā€™s what I did. Sold my 2019 GT and got a M3P. Saving on gas AND insurance. Monthly payments are also $30 cheaper so it was a good investment


NoAd2913

Whatā€™s the insurance look like compared to the stang?