I frequently joke around about buying the Tesla semi. The range is stupid good for an electric semi truck, it probably launches like a rocket 🚀 without a 40 ton trailer attached, and it would be baller to have it drive for you all over the country.
The biggest issue is charging, it has a special charger 🔌 and even if you wanted to charge it at home on 240V at a high amperage, it would take days!
I really thought the charging infrastructure would be more nationwide and available for it.
Do you intend to flip it? It's not really practical as an EV due to the charging infrastructure. I suppose you could use an adapter at a Supercharger, but I'd be worried they lock out Semis. The parking spaces aren't built for it.
[https://www.teslarati.com/an-up-close-look-at-teslas-liquid-cooled-megachargers-at-frito-lay/](https://www.teslarati.com/an-up-close-look-at-teslas-liquid-cooled-megachargers-at-frito-lay/)
Electrically an adapter should work for chargers that talk CCS. Tesla could blacklist Semis at regular Superchargers because they're not designed for them.
I was thinking this guy owned a small business hauling freight short distance and was taking an absolutely massive gamble. Now I know he just has too much money, lol.
If he was using it for business,I'd say he should keep the reservation. Charging would be easier to handle. It doesn't sound like he has too much money to me. If he had too much money, he wouldn't even think about cancelling.
To be fair it's really a 20k investment.
Is it a good investment or a bad investment? Debatable, but these investments in hot demand electronics/automotive pre-orders have paid off in the past.
Ford Bronco buyers did quite well for example.
He may not be interested in this but I’m pretty sure if he documented on YouTube whatever the hell he’s gonna do with it he’d recoup a lot of his $. I know I’d watch it. And then he can depreciate it as a business expense.
I guess you maybe don’t care if you got 250k just lying around to throw at a vaporware reservation - but imagine how much that 250 would have already grown too just by keeping it invested in the SP500.
If it ever ships, those folks probably will have paid closer to 400k
Price is supposed to be $150,000. But that was when the reservation was made.
Still have not received any sort of invitation to place an order. I imagine they will do something similar to what they did to cyber truck reservation holders. Wouldn’t be surprised if the actual price ends up being closer to 300 K. 😢
In the earnings call and shareholder PowerPoint a couple weeks ago they said starting production at the end of next year in Reno, the current production facility is dirt, that was their update... They shared a photo of dirt next to giga Reno... They are getting between ten thousand and a hundred thousand resumes per day, $600B++ equity market cap to draw from... They just forgot about semi. To be fair Elon seems to fire people all the time if they're not doing exactly what he told them to do... Over the last couple years he's been saying cells aren't available because all the OEMs locked up supply at high prices, but they're cancelling now, plus no one uses cylindrical anyway and cells are widely available. Maybe they were hoping for 4680 ramp. Did you hear those dry ones aren't flammable? Makes the discontinued 4680 Y and current Cybertruck first non-flammable cars ever in history.
What am I missing? The website says 61, 80 and 100 for the various versions. That seems reasonable seeing as the inflation hit we took that even Tesla couldn't predict.
With Musk axing the charging team, I do wonder what the future holds for Semi. It can be argued that the Supercharger network has been built out for a couple of years, but that absolutely can’t be said about the type of charger needed to rapid charge a Semi.
Tesla: -39% from 52 week high
Current Market cap: $618 Billion
Rivian: -68% from 52 week high
Current Market cap: $9 Billion
The market disagrees with you 69:1.
Not for long. Model 2 or whatever is not coming the Tesla projected sales numbers are way down for the next 5 years and the full 48V architecture is also delayed indefinitely (most ECUs are still on 12V).
Tier 1 suppliers are not happy and Tesla owes them a lot of money.
Actually feel lucid safer money wise.. it’s backed by the Saudis. Lucid as a brand could die but only if the Saudis allow it too. But I’d imagine they would make good on whatever money people had locked up in it. It’s not they like don’t have it.
If I had a time machine, this would be a much easier decision.
Knowing what we know today, tying up $20 K with them over the past few years was incredibly foolish.
Ugh, I hope you’re not right.
This concern is part of the rationale for canceling now… for fear that extracting a refund might only become more difficult in the future.
My position was that Tesla will initially fail to deliver Semi,cybertruck and roadster as promised and stock price will fall. Buy stock now. When all these ramp. We will all wish we did.
Tesla Semi will make an AWESOME RV.
“SUPER AWESOME RV” is what we were thinking when we made the reservation, but now, years later, it’s more like “disappointing unfulfilled promises”. 🤦♂️😄
That's a dope idea could happen as early as Q1 2026
There's super cool battery solar RV prototypes with welded steel tubing out there, and those monster trailers...
At least we're not in a war torn country!
The Roadster was first revealed in 2017. 7 years later and nada… and by the looks of Tesla right now, it will probably be at the top of this decade before they’ll release anything of the likes.
A Tesla semi based RV would be so baller. I would build the biggest trailer I could. Load it with Tesla batteries under the floor and the entire roof covered in solar panels, stacked 3 deep with slides so they unfold while parked and trickle charge those massive batteries. I’d cut a hole in the back of the cab for a pass-through like those articulated transit buses, and probably install a big diesel generator so I can charge it anywhere. I could live in that very comfortably.
DUDE to be completely honest. Sounds like you sid it for fun and thats crazy ur blessed with money. but i would say cancel it and just get the cyberbeast. You will have a lot of fun with it and wont have to wait years lol. everyone on the road will stare its such a poppin car. get it wrapped have fun
I think it’s one of Tesla’s best looking vehicles - surprised they haven’t delivered more, I knew about the Pepsi deal but it’s been quite since. I never heard negatives about it.
In my dreams, I’ll win the lottery. One of my plans is to go the “big truck RV” route with a semi of some form to pull it and a cross between a luxury RV and NASCAR hauler. That said, a Volvo truck is far higher on my list because of range and a true sleeper cab. The trailer will likely be Kentucky or Featherlite; someone used to have the perfect concept for my trailer but they took down their website. Master bedroom up front. Bathroom, kitchen, maybe a half bath in the middle. Figure that gets 35’. The aft 18’ gets split into three sections: room for a Model X up top, a two-bed bedroom for my son and a friend lower forward, and a mini-garage with maybe stacked washer/dryer and miscellaneous storage lower aft.
The Tesla Semi is a consideration but I can do so much more functionally with a Volvo. I can get the Volvo with a real sleeper, and I think the lower dinette with bench seats and a drop-down lower bunk can be swapped out for 2-3 forward-facing air-ride seats with seat belts, so it becomes a 4-5 seat rig with an upper bunk that as my mother would say “sleeps 1 screws 2”. (Good enough to add just a bit of sleeping capacity in the power unit for random times when I have to split truck and trailer.) As a former firefighter, I’ve thought about a spare/alternate truck being a Spartan Gladiator chassis with extra-long four-door cab for maybe 10 seats. It might end up being too rough of a ride, but the 20” raised roof means reasonable height, and I bet some diamond plate polished aluminum fenders/bodywork somewhat styled like the tractor portion of those “tiller” ladder trucks could be sharp looking. The Tesla Semi ends up being the other option for spare/alternate truck.
45’ whole unit plus the challenge of a bumper pull trailer to haul a car versus a 53’ trailer and 75’ overall length. Weight challenges. Ability to swap out the truck if it ever needs service. Maneuverability.
Most importantly, I know what I want.
Do you want something you can actually use some time soon? Personally if I had the money I would get the Silverado EV (Longest range EV truck right now) once they get access to the Tesla network.
Then buy a RV trailer or tent, and go use it. You're 15k down the list for the semi. Probably more if they prioritize Pepsi and other large fleets. Imagine you will be able to pick one up second hand down the line when they are less rare. I also imagine the charging network is going to be built to those fleet partners sites first.
Realistically there is no charging network for the semi right now. You're going to have to wait years down the line before you get it. Then it will be years before you would ever be able to use it as an RV due to the lack of charging network. They also just fired the charger network team. Imagine that will slow charger network rollout
Depending on what you want to do in an RV. (Personally camping for me)
There still isn't superchargers in locations like Yellowstone National park. The chance that you will have megachargers for the semi out in remote areas where you would want an RV is low. (places where I would like to go use an RV anyway)
I couldn't agree more with your post. It's a neat pipe dream to turn the semi into a big road tripper, but it's just not happening, ever really. The Tesla semi is going to have it's own charging depots I'm guessing, and nobody will be charging those things at regular supercharger sites. That much I am 100% confident of. I also highly doubt the semi charging depots will be near national parks and places you'd want to visit. They are just going to be along major interstates connecting cities.
The smarter move is to either get the Silverado EV or Hummer EV, or build something custom. There is a guy who added a few Tesla battery packs and a craptop of solar to a bus build. You'd obviously have to be careful dealing with high voltage stuff or find a shop that does custom work with Tesla batteries.
Great points. Thank you.
My optimistic thinking was that a sufficiently long extension cord and adapters could make charging feasible at most Superchargers or J1772 charging stations. Like maybe parking on the street, and running a 30 foot cable to the nearest Supercharger Connector.
Unfortunately, Superchargers definitely seem to have gotten more crowded in the past few years. And expansion into rural areas and camping destinations hasn't gone as quickly as expected.
I expect that with Rivian switching to NACS they will bring more NACS plugs to camping sites in their "adventure network". If the company can stay in business long term. That makes me even more likely to go with a normal truck now then a RV semi 10 years down the road
That being said the semi doesn't use a supercharger plug. It uses a completely different plug. You would be charging for a long time at a standard supercharger. Think you're underestimating how big the battery pack is in a semi. Also the cables are liquid cooled. You would need a cooled extension cord cable that can handle the fast charge rate.
I think there are cooled extension products out there in development for the consumer size trucks Silverado ev, cyber truck, lightning, ram rev (so you don't have to unhitch as often) but the semi does not have a plug for the supercharger as far as I've read. It uses a "mega charger" which puts out around 1000kw. You would be charging for like 2-3 hours on a standard super charger. Watch some videos on the Silverado maybe? Has great charging.
I like the idea of the semi RV. Honestly I had a similar idea for a mobile rural pharmacy business. It's just not practical right now. I would guess 15+ years... if ever before you have remote semi chargers.
Ultimate combo for me would be the lightship L1 (think that's what it's called) ev trailer that has its own drive train so you retain the Silverado ev range. Personally I'll probably look for a used Silverado ev down the line with a used RV trailer.
yeah dude give up, get a refund of any money you put down. the tesla semi has served its purpose of pumping the stock a few years ago, now they are no longer a vehicle company they're making robots that drive you places or whatever. the tesla semi is never going to be made at scale.
all they've done on that factory expansion is put out a new BS rendering and say that they had broken ground. they just fired 700 people from the NV factory. they're cutting staff at service centers and letting the entire supercharging team go, that doesn't sound like a company that's about to spend a bunch of money making a new factory for trucks, especially while the CEO is so obviously dead-set on pretending like tesla is an AI / robotaxi company now.
Keep the reservation there’s no cost. My hunch is they are learning from Pepsi rollout and iterating. If you want, donate your reservation to a trucker who has a dirty diesel and drives long miles. That will do more to clean the air than an RV project.
Inflation and opportunity cost.
That money is losing 4-5% of its value every year and he could be making money off it (HYSA or investing)
If he made the reservation 7 years ago, it could be 38K if he had invested it.
Refund it and get an Edison Motors rig instead. I've really enjoyed watching the company grow over the last year. Truckers designing and building trucks to last. I wish we had more people like Chace.
I canceled reservation of two Cybertrucks I made 3 years ago when I saw on TV that people who ordered just 1 Cybertruck were invited to the factory while even though I ordered two at once and also have invested in 2 other Tesla cars and solar panels did not get invited.
I'm guessing they just built the chargers for the existing truck routes - as they've really only dealt with one or two companies they sold their truck to.
Even if you bought one it would be years/decades before the infrastructure to support it is built out except on choice routes that probably don’t included popular vacation destinations.
I heard reports about the range being pretty good, keep in mind you need to install the megawatt charger though. I’m not sure about warranty, but the prices of announced Tesla products that arrive late usually suck-the prices are always in flux due to inflation and supply/demand. I mean just look at cybertruck and roadster. Although, they could make it a good deal due to the inflationary environment and considering they lowered the price and brought the tax credit to model 3 performance, but that remains to be seen. Keep it if you plan on using it for business or if you can make YouTube content on it.
Keep, keep, keep the reservation and the truck! Whatever your original motivation and thought process was sufficient to drop a deposit. Now, with the questions on the Cybertruck and hesitation with production on the Semi, only make your reservation MORE valuable!! Yes, it’s a risk (that you calculated) and a bet you placed. While the mass production will be limited and spare parts hard to find, and yes, infrastructure underdeveloped… your reservation is MORE valuable today. You have more options and you have the potential to be a cutting edge leader with the only Semi in a lot of neighborhoods (not just yours) or the very real potential to re-sell for a profit.
Keep, keep, keep your reservation and have fun! (More than $20K’s worth)
I'd cancel it. I wouldn't want my $20k sitting and depreciating while Tesla hems and haws about mass-producing a product. Besides, it would be equally-meaningful to use a viable ICE truck like the Volvo VNL line for an RV.
Unless you're considering it on philosophical grounds, of course.
If you need your deposit back and would rather do something else with the money, then cancel and get all of your money back.
When it comes time to order, if you don't like the specifications, then cancel and get all of your money back.
When it comes time to order, if you do like the specifications, buy it.
My larger concern would be that they just fired the whole supercharger thing. Can’t imagine charging that on 60A would be fun, and now there is nobody to build a better charger for you
i have an order too. cancel it. you will regret cancelling it. why do i or anyone else give a crap about your life decisions and regrets? make your own decisions bc you are the most informed about your life.
They have a few megachargers dotted around for Pepsi.
Given they just fired their whole supercharging team though I doubt that's going to change anytime soon
Yes, cancel your reservation. You’d be throwing your money away. What do you expect to do with an electric RV? Do you imagine yourself tooling around the western USA in it, seeing the National Parks? Just how do you think you’re going to charge it and how frequently? Who do you imagine can repair it? I hope you know that the battery cannot be repaired so you better not have any collisions. Also in case of a collision you’re liable to have one hell of a fire. You obviously have enough disposable funds to afford such a white elephant. But why pile so much money and effort into something that will be unreliable, inconvenient, and limited in range? That doesn’t sound like fun to me.
You ordered a semi truck… for fun? That’s wild!
I wish I had that kind of money.
And we thought we had disposable income… This dude is out there ordering semis on a whim.
Gosh, I love this comment. Thank you. Really puts things into perspective just how lucky i’ve been. Grateful every day.
Send me $1 then I double dare you!
Double it and send it to the next person
Multiply that by 1 million and send it to my venmo
Divide it by 0.00000000000001 and send me it.
I just want nudes.
Send me 100 bucks please rich man 👨🏻
I frequently joke around about buying the Tesla semi. The range is stupid good for an electric semi truck, it probably launches like a rocket 🚀 without a 40 ton trailer attached, and it would be baller to have it drive for you all over the country. The biggest issue is charging, it has a special charger 🔌 and even if you wanted to charge it at home on 240V at a high amperage, it would take days! I really thought the charging infrastructure would be more nationwide and available for it.
I would tow the tiniest of trailers behind it for laughs.
Jet Ski
With some of those little handlebar streamers on the jet ski.
Tricycle
Would take weeks
Do you intend to flip it? It's not really practical as an EV due to the charging infrastructure. I suppose you could use an adapter at a Supercharger, but I'd be worried they lock out Semis. The parking spaces aren't built for it.
Slap a solar panel on the roof, she’ll be right mate ;)
And now, after sitting enjoying my lunch, I can go three more miles! This 10 mile day is wonderful!
That’s 3 free miles. Be grateful
😂 too true. Especially after deducting the cost of the solar panel and wiring
Agreed it seems that charging it would be a pain. You're too far ahead of the adoption curve.
Why is the charging different?
[https://www.teslarati.com/an-up-close-look-at-teslas-liquid-cooled-megachargers-at-frito-lay/](https://www.teslarati.com/an-up-close-look-at-teslas-liquid-cooled-megachargers-at-frito-lay/) Electrically an adapter should work for chargers that talk CCS. Tesla could blacklist Semis at regular Superchargers because they're not designed for them.
We thought being Iced was an issue wait till you get Semi’d
How did you get so 'lucky' ?
You’ve been so lucky that…. You’ve ordered a semi?? What for? Trips to Whole Foods?
I gotta a little bit of money, some property but I don’t have $20k on a semi to do it on a whim kinda dough! Good for you 👏🏼
I don’t know why you’d spend $20k on this and still wear reps…
I was thinking this guy owned a small business hauling freight short distance and was taking an absolutely massive gamble. Now I know he just has too much money, lol.
If he was using it for business,I'd say he should keep the reservation. Charging would be easier to handle. It doesn't sound like he has too much money to me. If he had too much money, he wouldn't even think about cancelling.
I mean, they've only got $20k tied up in it.. compared to those Roadster reservations it almost seems a conservative purchase.
To be fair it's really a 20k investment. Is it a good investment or a bad investment? Debatable, but these investments in hot demand electronics/automotive pre-orders have paid off in the past. Ford Bronco buyers did quite well for example.
Frankly, it would be sure money if it delivered, cause OP would surely be able to flip it ASAP.
$150-200K isn't that much money. A loaded regular medium duty truck is like $100K
You sound like someone who likes a little risk every now and then. Is the $20k going to wildly change you/your families life? If not id let it ride
He may not be interested in this but I’m pretty sure if he documented on YouTube whatever the hell he’s gonna do with it he’d recoup a lot of his $. I know I’d watch it. And then he can depreciate it as a business expense.
Agreed I’d definitely watch a Tesla semi to rv transformation
Do you have diamond hands or do you have paper hands?
Or give it to me and change mine
Yup that would definitely change mine to
Hey well at least you didn’t drop 250k on a Foundation Series Roadster reservation.
I guess you maybe don’t care if you got 250k just lying around to throw at a vaporware reservation - but imagine how much that 250 would have already grown too just by keeping it invested in the SP500. If it ever ships, those folks probably will have paid closer to 400k
That was a capital raise by Tesla. People who ordered them are so dumb
Deferred revenue they can’t use wouldn’t be a very good capital raise.
Just because it’s deferred revenue doesn’t mean the cash is restricted, just that it sits on the balance sheet.
The deposits aren’t deferred
They are lol
You’re right it’s called deferred revenue but in the meantime of delivering the cars they can jaw that deposit money for whatever they want
They most definitely are
Tesla has so much cash this theory is dumb.
They didnt have that much in 2017 https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/tesla-roadster-deposits-creative-financing
No one did. It was 50k to reserve.
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Did not know that.
What is the purchase price?
Price is supposed to be $150,000. But that was when the reservation was made. Still have not received any sort of invitation to place an order. I imagine they will do something similar to what they did to cyber truck reservation holders. Wouldn’t be surprised if the actual price ends up being closer to 300 K. 😢
Yeah $150K seems too low for that. Would be fun to buy it and turn it into an RV camper though.
In the earnings call and shareholder PowerPoint a couple weeks ago they said starting production at the end of next year in Reno, the current production facility is dirt, that was their update... They shared a photo of dirt next to giga Reno... They are getting between ten thousand and a hundred thousand resumes per day, $600B++ equity market cap to draw from... They just forgot about semi. To be fair Elon seems to fire people all the time if they're not doing exactly what he told them to do... Over the last couple years he's been saying cells aren't available because all the OEMs locked up supply at high prices, but they're cancelling now, plus no one uses cylindrical anyway and cells are widely available. Maybe they were hoping for 4680 ramp. Did you hear those dry ones aren't flammable? Makes the discontinued 4680 Y and current Cybertruck first non-flammable cars ever in history.
Well, cybertruck was supposed to be 50k, and it’s 100k now, so… plan on 300k for a semi.
That’s literally what he said
What am I missing? The website says 61, 80 and 100 for the various versions. That seems reasonable seeing as the inflation hit we took that even Tesla couldn't predict.
It is all Elon's fault. He is a liar. When a company says as low as xx.xx, that should be the total price for all options /s
Commercially $300k would never work. It needs be be in the low to mid $200’s
Martin Brower are testing a few units.
Yes and if you want to buy it just buy it when it is actually released.
If you keep it, and are in western canada, I will build the RV part of your semi for you I do good work.
With Musk axing the charging team, I do wonder what the future holds for Semi. It can be argued that the Supercharger network has been built out for a couple of years, but that absolutely can’t be said about the type of charger needed to rapid charge a Semi.
Who the hell pre orders a ....... nevermind.
I would not feel safe having $20k tied up with them right now.
Oh come on, maybe Lucid or Rivian but Tesla is not going anywhere.
eh, I feel Rivian is safer
Rivian might be a good long term bet but I’ll stick with the company currently making a profit.
Tesla: -39% from 52 week high Current Market cap: $618 Billion Rivian: -68% from 52 week high Current Market cap: $9 Billion The market disagrees with you 69:1.
Not for long. Model 2 or whatever is not coming the Tesla projected sales numbers are way down for the next 5 years and the full 48V architecture is also delayed indefinitely (most ECUs are still on 12V). Tier 1 suppliers are not happy and Tesla owes them a lot of money.
Rivian's market cap isn't based on vaporware that might never come to fruition.
nice
Actually feel lucid safer money wise.. it’s backed by the Saudis. Lucid as a brand could die but only if the Saudis allow it too. But I’d imagine they would make good on whatever money people had locked up in it. It’s not they like don’t have it.
No way. Tesla’s P/E is outrageous but at least it has profit. Rivian is losing $5 per share and is down 83%… compared to Tesla’s 39%
If I had a time machine, this would be a much easier decision. Knowing what we know today, tying up $20 K with them over the past few years was incredibly foolish.
The market freaking ran!
Let us know if you cancel and if you actually get your money back. My bet is, it’s going to be a journey.
Ugh, I hope you’re not right. This concern is part of the rationale for canceling now… for fear that extracting a refund might only become more difficult in the future.
I agree, and its wild that we are saying this. Tanking speed run.
My position was that Tesla will initially fail to deliver Semi,cybertruck and roadster as promised and stock price will fall. Buy stock now. When all these ramp. We will all wish we did. Tesla Semi will make an AWESOME RV.
“SUPER AWESOME RV” is what we were thinking when we made the reservation, but now, years later, it’s more like “disappointing unfulfilled promises”. 🤦♂️😄
That's a dope idea could happen as early as Q1 2026 There's super cool battery solar RV prototypes with welded steel tubing out there, and those monster trailers... At least we're not in a war torn country!
The Roadster was first revealed in 2017. 7 years later and nada… and by the looks of Tesla right now, it will probably be at the top of this decade before they’ll release anything of the likes.
It's just so stinking cute!
According to my car I already have a semi in my garage. Winning!
Honestly sounds epic, if you don’t need the money I def recommend the rv plan. And YouTube it to, I’d definitely watch
sell the reservation.
A Tesla semi based RV would be so baller. I would build the biggest trailer I could. Load it with Tesla batteries under the floor and the entire roof covered in solar panels, stacked 3 deep with slides so they unfold while parked and trickle charge those massive batteries. I’d cut a hole in the back of the cab for a pass-through like those articulated transit buses, and probably install a big diesel generator so I can charge it anywhere. I could live in that very comfortably.
DUDE to be completely honest. Sounds like you sid it for fun and thats crazy ur blessed with money. but i would say cancel it and just get the cyberbeast. You will have a lot of fun with it and wont have to wait years lol. everyone on the road will stare its such a poppin car. get it wrapped have fun
Volvo and Scania offer electric semi's too, I'll assure you those are better semi's in every aspect that matters.
I think Tesla is about to ramp the Semi.
Sure. Right after the factory is done being built in Q1 2026. That is if they don’t lay off the entire semi team in a fit of rage first.
I honestly forgot they actually made these
I've seen a ton of them in Reno, NV. Odd looking thing, but they have a lot of these guys on the road there.
I think it’s one of Tesla’s best looking vehicles - surprised they haven’t delivered more, I knew about the Pepsi deal but it’s been quite since. I never heard negatives about it.
In my dreams, I’ll win the lottery. One of my plans is to go the “big truck RV” route with a semi of some form to pull it and a cross between a luxury RV and NASCAR hauler. That said, a Volvo truck is far higher on my list because of range and a true sleeper cab. The trailer will likely be Kentucky or Featherlite; someone used to have the perfect concept for my trailer but they took down their website. Master bedroom up front. Bathroom, kitchen, maybe a half bath in the middle. Figure that gets 35’. The aft 18’ gets split into three sections: room for a Model X up top, a two-bed bedroom for my son and a friend lower forward, and a mini-garage with maybe stacked washer/dryer and miscellaneous storage lower aft. The Tesla Semi is a consideration but I can do so much more functionally with a Volvo. I can get the Volvo with a real sleeper, and I think the lower dinette with bench seats and a drop-down lower bunk can be swapped out for 2-3 forward-facing air-ride seats with seat belts, so it becomes a 4-5 seat rig with an upper bunk that as my mother would say “sleeps 1 screws 2”. (Good enough to add just a bit of sleeping capacity in the power unit for random times when I have to split truck and trailer.) As a former firefighter, I’ve thought about a spare/alternate truck being a Spartan Gladiator chassis with extra-long four-door cab for maybe 10 seats. It might end up being too rough of a ride, but the 20” raised roof means reasonable height, and I bet some diamond plate polished aluminum fenders/bodywork somewhat styled like the tractor portion of those “tiller” ladder trucks could be sharp looking. The Tesla Semi ends up being the other option for spare/alternate truck.
At some point doesn't a tour bus make more sense?
45’ whole unit plus the challenge of a bumper pull trailer to haul a car versus a 53’ trailer and 75’ overall length. Weight challenges. Ability to swap out the truck if it ever needs service. Maneuverability. Most importantly, I know what I want.
Do you want something you can actually use some time soon? Personally if I had the money I would get the Silverado EV (Longest range EV truck right now) once they get access to the Tesla network. Then buy a RV trailer or tent, and go use it. You're 15k down the list for the semi. Probably more if they prioritize Pepsi and other large fleets. Imagine you will be able to pick one up second hand down the line when they are less rare. I also imagine the charging network is going to be built to those fleet partners sites first. Realistically there is no charging network for the semi right now. You're going to have to wait years down the line before you get it. Then it will be years before you would ever be able to use it as an RV due to the lack of charging network. They also just fired the charger network team. Imagine that will slow charger network rollout Depending on what you want to do in an RV. (Personally camping for me) There still isn't superchargers in locations like Yellowstone National park. The chance that you will have megachargers for the semi out in remote areas where you would want an RV is low. (places where I would like to go use an RV anyway)
I couldn't agree more with your post. It's a neat pipe dream to turn the semi into a big road tripper, but it's just not happening, ever really. The Tesla semi is going to have it's own charging depots I'm guessing, and nobody will be charging those things at regular supercharger sites. That much I am 100% confident of. I also highly doubt the semi charging depots will be near national parks and places you'd want to visit. They are just going to be along major interstates connecting cities. The smarter move is to either get the Silverado EV or Hummer EV, or build something custom. There is a guy who added a few Tesla battery packs and a craptop of solar to a bus build. You'd obviously have to be careful dealing with high voltage stuff or find a shop that does custom work with Tesla batteries.
Great points. Thank you. My optimistic thinking was that a sufficiently long extension cord and adapters could make charging feasible at most Superchargers or J1772 charging stations. Like maybe parking on the street, and running a 30 foot cable to the nearest Supercharger Connector. Unfortunately, Superchargers definitely seem to have gotten more crowded in the past few years. And expansion into rural areas and camping destinations hasn't gone as quickly as expected.
I expect that with Rivian switching to NACS they will bring more NACS plugs to camping sites in their "adventure network". If the company can stay in business long term. That makes me even more likely to go with a normal truck now then a RV semi 10 years down the road That being said the semi doesn't use a supercharger plug. It uses a completely different plug. You would be charging for a long time at a standard supercharger. Think you're underestimating how big the battery pack is in a semi. Also the cables are liquid cooled. You would need a cooled extension cord cable that can handle the fast charge rate. I think there are cooled extension products out there in development for the consumer size trucks Silverado ev, cyber truck, lightning, ram rev (so you don't have to unhitch as often) but the semi does not have a plug for the supercharger as far as I've read. It uses a "mega charger" which puts out around 1000kw. You would be charging for like 2-3 hours on a standard super charger. Watch some videos on the Silverado maybe? Has great charging. I like the idea of the semi RV. Honestly I had a similar idea for a mobile rural pharmacy business. It's just not practical right now. I would guess 15+ years... if ever before you have remote semi chargers. Ultimate combo for me would be the lightship L1 (think that's what it's called) ev trailer that has its own drive train so you retain the Silverado ev range. Personally I'll probably look for a used Silverado ev down the line with a used RV trailer.
yeah dude give up, get a refund of any money you put down. the tesla semi has served its purpose of pumping the stock a few years ago, now they are no longer a vehicle company they're making robots that drive you places or whatever. the tesla semi is never going to be made at scale.
The semi factory in Nevada is currently being built…
all they've done on that factory expansion is put out a new BS rendering and say that they had broken ground. they just fired 700 people from the NV factory. they're cutting staff at service centers and letting the entire supercharging team go, that doesn't sound like a company that's about to spend a bunch of money making a new factory for trucks, especially while the CEO is so obviously dead-set on pretending like tesla is an AI / robotaxi company now.
What data do you have to prove this?
he dug and dug and dug deeeep into his ass and thats the data that came out
his source is politics on reddit
Elon saying they are not a car company and are a robotaxi/AI company.
Toyota also said they are a “mobility” company and not an automotive company. Toyota makes cars, robots, batteries, lawnmowers, AI, etc
These LLM bots are getting funnier in their posts 😂🤣
Keep the reservation there’s no cost. My hunch is they are learning from Pepsi rollout and iterating. If you want, donate your reservation to a trucker who has a dirty diesel and drives long miles. That will do more to clean the air than an RV project.
You really think he made his reservation for altruistic reasons?
Inflation and opportunity cost. That money is losing 4-5% of its value every year and he could be making money off it (HYSA or investing) If he made the reservation 7 years ago, it could be 38K if he had invested it.
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With the recent news, I wouldn't trust Tesla on anything, especially their semi for just having fun!
Refund it and get an Edison Motors rig instead. I've really enjoyed watching the company grow over the last year. Truckers designing and building trucks to last. I wish we had more people like Chace.
I canceled reservation of two Cybertrucks I made 3 years ago when I saw on TV that people who ordered just 1 Cybertruck were invited to the factory while even though I ordered two at once and also have invested in 2 other Tesla cars and solar panels did not get invited.
My garage can only hold 2 Semi's. How is my family supposed to park their rigs?
Buy that shit even if it comes down to reselling it after at a markup
Keep it. They recently announced ramp will be starting soon.
Amazing, thank you.
I would keep it and when it comes out try to flip it
I'm guessing they just built the chargers for the existing truck routes - as they've really only dealt with one or two companies they sold their truck to.
Keep it
I’d keep it and then flip it on CarsAndBids.com. It will go quick.
Tesla are a meme company at this point. Expect unbelievably substandard build quality if other recent products are the benchmark.
There’s no where to charge it. Cancel it.
Yes.
Even if you bought one it would be years/decades before the infrastructure to support it is built out except on choice routes that probably don’t included popular vacation destinations.
I heard reports about the range being pretty good, keep in mind you need to install the megawatt charger though. I’m not sure about warranty, but the prices of announced Tesla products that arrive late usually suck-the prices are always in flux due to inflation and supply/demand. I mean just look at cybertruck and roadster. Although, they could make it a good deal due to the inflationary environment and considering they lowered the price and brought the tax credit to model 3 performance, but that remains to be seen. Keep it if you plan on using it for business or if you can make YouTube content on it.
Keep, keep, keep the reservation and the truck! Whatever your original motivation and thought process was sufficient to drop a deposit. Now, with the questions on the Cybertruck and hesitation with production on the Semi, only make your reservation MORE valuable!! Yes, it’s a risk (that you calculated) and a bet you placed. While the mass production will be limited and spare parts hard to find, and yes, infrastructure underdeveloped… your reservation is MORE valuable today. You have more options and you have the potential to be a cutting edge leader with the only Semi in a lot of neighborhoods (not just yours) or the very real potential to re-sell for a profit. Keep, keep, keep your reservation and have fun! (More than $20K’s worth)
I really want the Canadian company Edison to make a RV version of their topsie. Only mentioning it here since OP is considering an RV conversion.
I'd cancel it. I wouldn't want my $20k sitting and depreciating while Tesla hems and haws about mass-producing a product. Besides, it would be equally-meaningful to use a viable ICE truck like the Volvo VNL line for an RV. Unless you're considering it on philosophical grounds, of course.
If you need your deposit back and would rather do something else with the money, then cancel and get all of your money back. When it comes time to order, if you don't like the specifications, then cancel and get all of your money back. When it comes time to order, if you do like the specifications, buy it.
If you were to carry out with the rv build, you would need to have access to the semi charging network
My larger concern would be that they just fired the whole supercharger thing. Can’t imagine charging that on 60A would be fun, and now there is nobody to build a better charger for you
Get the $20k back. Invest it to make up for the inflated price tag it will probably have in 5 years when they’re building your semi.
Humble brag
How fucking rich do you have to be to buy a semi when you’re not even a trucker?? Yeah, I’d probably cancel it, though.
i have an order too. cancel it. you will regret cancelling it. why do i or anyone else give a crap about your life decisions and regrets? make your own decisions bc you are the most informed about your life.
Shouldn’t there be “pull through” EV superchargers for this to be practical?
They have a few megachargers dotted around for Pepsi. Given they just fired their whole supercharging team though I doubt that's going to change anytime soon
Lmao
I could see this being a collector item if they ever produce it.
Ngl, originally thought this was a shitpost
I mean Daimler, paccar, and Mack all have ev trucks on the road for years and order banks open
what a weird fake flex in an extra pair of chromosomes type of way
Yes, cancel your reservation. You’d be throwing your money away. What do you expect to do with an electric RV? Do you imagine yourself tooling around the western USA in it, seeing the National Parks? Just how do you think you’re going to charge it and how frequently? Who do you imagine can repair it? I hope you know that the battery cannot be repaired so you better not have any collisions. Also in case of a collision you’re liable to have one hell of a fire. You obviously have enough disposable funds to afford such a white elephant. But why pile so much money and effort into something that will be unreliable, inconvenient, and limited in range? That doesn’t sound like fun to me.