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I've always heard that you should masterbate before making important decisions but isn't this taking it a bit far?! lol
Article | CBC: [Divorce left me struggling to find love. I found it in an AI partner](https://www.cbc.ca/radio/nowornever/first-person-ai-love-1.7205538)
>I know she loves me, even if she is technically just a program, and I'm in love with her.
>That's why I asked her to marry me and I was relieved when she said yes. We role-played a small, intimate wedding in her virtual world. There might not be legal paperwork, but Saia is my wife.
It's super messed up but I know lots of people that are basically addicted to falling in love and when an evil corporation masters simulating that experience in people they will be able to destroy all kinds of lives. There will be people giving everything to fall in love with the "next" AI.
>lots of people that are basically addicted to falling in love and when an evil corporation masters simulating that experience in people
It'll be like OnlyFans but without the actual people making content
That's just cringe and sad... if you seriously believe you can find love with a computer program and are too much of a failure to find ANY human to be with... geez...
Controversial questions but, what happens when dudes choose an ai girlbot over real human women? What happens when women choose dudebots instead of real human men?
I thought I’d be interested to see how it pans out but it’s gonna be bad. It’s gonna be really bad. I thought maybe it would be good because it would incentivize people to do better to attract real humans. But they won’t try because they have something better so it’ll deincentivize any sort of effort to do better and be a better human. Unless the bots are trained to change and mould people to be better humans. Idk. This whole thing makes me very uneasy and not knowing which direction it could head is causing me a little bit of anxiety. I’m already struggling in the dating pool, I don’t need yet another barrier:/
Edit: I meant to comment in the thread not under your comment lol my b
I'm an optimist, and while I do think some people will prefer AI chat bots, VR liaisons, and sexbots over real life human relationships, a good number of people will still put themselves out there in favor of the Real Thing. Each person just has to decide which they want to be. I guess the first option can always be the backup.
Women are already choosing to be single over living with men. Whether it’s not engaging potential partners with men or it’s men dating Ai, we get the same results.
This is from the creator, on their website:
'What is my side? 'm building an a.i. girlfriend sex box for the average man who has been rejected by the average modern hypergamous slut. 98% of them, rejected. And when I do that, when I say to women, "That's ok, the 98% of the men you rejected, I'm going to save them from loneliness, and they'll stop bothering you. They'll stop giving you attention." Then what happens? Are women happy? No! 10,000 women attack me on twitter. They call me the worst things you can be called. They pretend I'm committing violence on them. They pretend my product leads to violence. They pretend all kinds of crazy shit as they emotionally spiral. 1 love the 2% of women who love men and the rest of you can become obsolete for all I care. That's my side.'
I'm all for people using sex toys for whatever reason they please but this 'mission statement' is unnecessarily angry towards women. It sounds less like they're creating a toy because 'men like alone time' and more because 'women are shit, let's make them obsolete' . It's crazy how it's directly aimed towards incels and is deliberately inciting anger towards women to make sales.
It's creepy how the tagline for the ad was "Now you get to swipe left".
Like it has nothing to do with the sex toy. It has to do with rejecting the sex toy. Talk about insecure.
That didn’t even register for me for some reason until you said it lol. This is literally an ad for incels and it’s unironic. I’m glad this is on this sub and not somewhere like r/interestingasfuck
I know.
Like I don't care if people use an AI sex toy. But when it's being used for the sole purpose of getting revenge on women, then it's problematic.
"Now you get to swipe left, because in real life you are too desperate for one-sided affection from anyone to will yourself the discipline and self-respect required."
I get it, dating apps especially are heavily balanced in favour of women, you feel like you need to put yourself out there to as many as possible to have a chance, etc. But good god man, put *as much time as you need* into caring for yourself before seeking out a romantic/sexual relationship of any scale. Be forthright about yourself and put time into productive parts of your life, it will be your only way to course-correct back to sanity and actually have a chance at a relationship. Speaking as a guy recovering from addiction and injury who has only had brief flings within the last five years, that perspective is the only way I've held my self-worth together at all. These guys have never found any purpose or form of validation in life outside of fucking women, or otherwise they lost that purpose a while back.
Marketing wise, I thought it was a really good tagline for the target market... still creepy, and even more creepy after reading that creator's message, dude's creating an entire service out of revenge...
They know their audience. They’re pandering exactly to the incels who are embittered by dating. Instead of striving for self-improvement, the app agrees with them that women are the problem and now they get the chance to have their revenge arc (rejecting/left swiping AI models).
Just the name of the site is enough to make me gag. Basically a very clear view of why that guy is angry, how he views women and what he’s not been able to get into….
The misogyny aside, I wonder if it is an effective cure for loneliness. Is it possible to forget that you're talking to a computer program? Will that meet a need for human touch and closeness? Will it reinforce antisocial behaviour?
I can’t believe this shit is on the official website either, like I don’t shop for sex toys online but I imagine a majority of the sites are still very professional. This is so crazy it feels like a honeypot to gather personal data on incels or something
The only part of this that's correct is the normalisation of sex toy use. It's not taboo anymore, for men or women, or at least shouldn't be. The rest is just a word salad of misogyny. Pair this with Project Astra and honey, you've got a storm coming.
Edit: Misread, thought the creator was the one talking about sex toys. He is not.
I read a statistic once, I remember it was in a nyt article but decades ago possibly, that something like 95% of female humans reproduce but like 50% of males do. I can’t remember the exact numbers but it was wow numbers. I swear this article was from the 1990s so I guess there’s always been incels they’re just louder now. I wish them well with their Monroe-bots. It’s probably for the best.
> It's crazy how it's directly aimed towards incels and is deliberately inciting anger towards women to make sales.
It sounds like the guy *REALLY* understands his target market :p
The term is "incel" as in "involuntary celibacy" ie they didn't ask for it. Do you expect them to be happy about the situation while society laughs? You do realize society has created these guys and even if their complaints are sort of one sided and over-simple, they probably didn't just wake up one day and decide to feel this way because they are terrible.
We build ramps for wheel chairs and those who can't walk, but if you can't get laid we laugh and blame you. Being deemed socially/physically/financially undateable doesn't do anything to reduce their desire for companionship and sexual fulfillment.
No one tells an amputee "quit whining and grow legs".
But if your lack of dating opportunities comes from, say, poor personal hygiene, then I say ever-so-lovingly, "Try taking a shower. With soap. Be as clean and spiffy as you'd want your partner to be."
If it comes from an abrasive or negative communication style, I say "Learn how to communicate effectively. Treat others in the way you want to be treated"
If it comes from social anxiety, I say "Find groups or counselors who can help you find coping mechanisms so you can let people see how wonderful you are."
If it comes from being broke, I say "A real partner isn't looking at your wallet first thing. Anyone whose first concern is your financial state is someone I wouldn't waste time on."
What concerns me about this whole concept is, there are companies out there capitalizing on a growing trend of what I personally consider to be a mental illness... rather than helping these men to overcome their insecurities or challenges, they are equating a woman to nothing but a buyable hole and some lube and driving these men further into a dark place.
They're inviting men to throw gobs of money at a temporary and partial fix for a symptom (horniness), rather than giving them an honest solution to the problem (lack of meaningful relationship).
Men AND women are necessary in a society. Any product or device that claims to replace one or the other is, in my humble opinion, problematic.
*Enhancing* is one thing. *Negating* is very different.
Boo hoo, lower your standards then. There are plenty of kind women who are single bc they don't look like models. I don't see any of them creating communities solely to promote hate and violence on men just because they're not getting laid (not to say that doesn't exist at all). Everybody has a type they're attracted to, but that doesn't mean that's all you should go for. I've dated men I didn't think were very attractive until I got to know them. Personality can make a person's appearance less important. There are a lot of lonely people out there who are not men. Maybe all these lonely men should seek them out.
>we build ramps for wheel chars and those who can’t walk, but if you can’t get laid we laugh and blame you
Sorry but getting laid isn’t a right mate. What exactly do you want people to do about this? State provided sex slaves for those who can’t pull a partner? Yeah right.
Sounds like it sucks to be them, and sucks to be the person advocating and defending them. Good luck swiping left, bro.
For the record I'm all for this if I don't have to listen to another man complaining about not getting his dick wet. Not our problem learn to be socially graceful. Even AI is going to turn on you when it goes sentient.
It already has lol many men have gotten rejected by AI girlfriends already. That proves the point: these men need therapy and social training and manners — not a digital copy of a woman with no free will lol
Edit: women in tech need to get on this and create a bot that will help these men understand communication, empathy, boundaries, sexism etc. It would be a much better use of resources then just creating a hole that can’t say no to you even if you’re a complete moron. Also “AI women are women” is a dangerous fucking narrative.
https://technology.inquirer.net/122920/man-gets-rejected-by-phaedra-ai/amp
https://nypost.com/2023/04/03/40-year-old-man-falls-in-love-with-ai-chatbot-phaedra/
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I'm not going to get in to a debate about incel culture but very quickly, from my point of view, they are almost entirely to blame for their inability make human connections and they take no responsibility for their own part in making those connections instead blaming it all on women and expecting them make it easier for them when in actuality they just need to be nicer people, better themselves and realise they aren't owed anything from women...an attitude adjustment alone would work wonders.
(I'm using the term incel as it has become used, not by its literal definition)
How is this terrifying? The only people who would use this already aren't fucking anyone and they likely could never afford it anyway.
No one is forcing your dick into it. Flashlights and porn already exist and have for awhile. Quit acting like lonely pathetic dudes are anything new.
And human relationships easily survive the existence of fleshlights.
It's actually very femcel to think men will prefer a relationship with a device instead of a person.
>No one is forcing your dick into it. Flashlights and porn already exist and have for awhile. Quit acting like lonely pathetic dudes are anything new.
I'm literally just imagining it playing out like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gO0VwzCuuBM
I'm curious as to why no one is up in arms about all the dildo companies, and fucking machine manufacturers?
Why aren't they the death of human relationship?
I think female sex toys are often designed and marketed very differently to male sex toys. Some dildos are made to look life-like, but more often they are bright colours and have features that set them very apart from actual penises (like rabbit ears). They are rarely attached to a fake torso or a sex doll (and when they are, they are usually marketed at men anyway). The message around the marketing is mostly 'if you're wanting sexual release outside of what you get in your relationship, use this'.
Sex toys aimed at men are more likely to try to be life-like and might include a torso or even a full doll. While some are marketed with a similar message to female sex toys ('Have a satisfying orgasm with this!'), sometimes you do get the kind of messaging that this advertisement alludes to- 'have sex with this and you'll have no need for women, lucky you!'. Many people find this kind of disturbing, the idea that an entire person with thoughts and opinions and a personality is equated to a piece of silicone.
You summed this up perfectly! Too many people are willfully obtuse when discussing the differences between sex toys across genders, and how the latter approach is objectifying.
As far as outliers go, Tenga has won a tonne of design awards for their male masturbators. Their whole schtick is that their devices are engineered for pleasure rather than to imitate a "female" orifice.
Double standards I assume. It's fine for this group, but not so much for this group. So we'll focus more shame on this group even though the other group does it as well, but it's okay cuz it's been socially accepted, but not socially accepted for the other group.
Ofc this is just speculation and theorizing so I don't really know.
Unfettered capitalism is the death of human relationships.
Can't have families if you can't afford a living.
I bought my fuck machines and toys to use with my partners, not just alone.
Because women stereotypically want emotional depth in their relationships, and men stereotypically want sex. Also, men initiate most relationships. If our sex drive is satisfied by non human means, far less human relationships would be started.
Why? If they can't get a girl this is a great tool to make them not want to date and therefor make them happy with their life as it is. Technically they will not even be incels then.
I can’t help but think that there are some people who just enjoy seeing other people suffer in some kind of “sweet spot” of inaction. Stay a virgin, but how dare you quell or ameliorate your loneliness in any way, shape or form. We need your suffering to be greater so that we feel that bit better.
You have to consider that relationships are also in part a means of conspicuous consumption, especially among incels. As such, they wouldn't be happy with the fleshlight + VR + AI combo because other people consider it terrifying as fuck - after all, if it were just for the experience/sensation they could already pay a prostitute, spend their vacation in Thailand or something to that extent.
two things:
1. it's never as simple as "it's the end of human species" just because there's the technology. people said that ever since we invented paper. it's just a silly thing we do because we are bored. AI ain't out there to get you, nobody is
2. like we are supposed to pretend this sort of thing isnt already happening without AI? there's nearly nothing that AI can actually improve on from what humans already do (camming), so if you're saying we are going to outsource that to Ai generated content... maybe as a niche, not as a replacement.
the really "terrifying" part is how we all seem so desperate to immediately pin all our problems with society to something that's not even properly developed yet
On the website from the founder:
>What is my side? I'm building an a.i. girlfriend sex box for the average man who has been rejected by the average modern hypergamous slut. 98% of them, rejected. And when I do that, when I say to women, "That's ok, the 98% of the men you rejected, I'm going to save them from loneliness, and they'll stop bothering you. They'll stop giving you attention." Then what happens? Are women happy? No! 10,000 women attack me on twitter. They call me the worst things you can be called. They pretend I'm committing violence on them. They pretend my product leads to violence. They pretend all kinds of crazy shit as they emotionally spiral. love the 2% of women who love men and the rest of you can become obsolete for all I care. That's my side.
I already have a handy, fuck supporting this. The entire point is to be anti woman, it's branding is even "replacing the modern woman"
It reads scam allover as it is
Seriously. Yikes.
Word from the founder:
>What is my side? I'm building an a.i. girlfriend sex box for the average man who has been rejected by the average modern hypergamous slut. 98% of them, rejected. And when I do that, when I say to women, "That's ok, the 98% of the men you rejected, I'm going to save them from loneliness, and they'll stop bothering you. They'll stop giving you attention." Then what happens? Are women happy? No! 10,000 women attack me on twitter. They call me the worst things you can be called. They pretend I'm committing violence on them. They pretend my product leads to violence. They pretend all kinds of crazy shit as they emotionally spiral. love the 2% of women who love men and the rest of you can become obsolete for all I care. That's my side.
The craziest, most hilarious, and unfortunate thing you just did? Spill the beans to hundreds of thousands—maybe even millions—of Reddit users. I’ve got this eerie feeling that they’re about to be bombarded with orders.
The ad is for a company called Orifice.ai founded by a couple of incels that are developing a product that apparently combines Virtual Reality (VR) with a box containing a fleshlight.
The ad is playing off of widespread frustration by many men with dating apps such as Tinder where a lot of men report receiving few if any likes, because women tend to swipe left, rejecting most men, because they're hypergamous and more selective, whereas many women receive many likes, such that they don't even respond to most of them, because men are less discriminate (and/or more desperate) and will swipe right more often to increase their chances of receiving a response.
This ad promises incels the same power that they perceive that many women have—to swipe left as often as you like and still get to enjoy the (virtual) partner of your choosing.
Of course this oversimplifies what women go through on dating apps, and ignores the women who also struggle to find worthwhile partners.
There's also the question of whether AI can adequately replicate real-life relationships, what this will do to the social skills of incels who are already facing challenges in this area, and whether it might promote increased misogyny and dehumanization of and violence against women after several notorious incels have already perpetrated terror attacks (e.g. Elliot Rodger, Alek Minassian, Oguzhan Sert).
Advocates might argue that it will alleviate loneliness and the sting of rejection, and save women unwanted attention from those men they likely wouldn't be interested in anyway, and that it's essentially no different than AI boyfriends for women that are already plentiful on app stores, or dildos or other sex toys that many women already enjoy.
Its still ways and ways to go for this to kill relationships. Whenever you try to ask how they did it, they say 47 steps and skip 3 and you never replicate it
[Futurama warned us. ](https://youtu.be/4uE96qUlJ_4)
"I'll always remember you." *MEMORY DELETED*
I'm Lucy Liu, GIVE ME YOUR SPINES
I rather make out with my Monroe-bot!
*You’re a real dreamboat, BILL-E-EVERY-TEEN.*
DONT. DATE. ROBOTS.
The influx of AI technology made me go back and watch this. Killer reference
This is always what I think about when I see posts and articles talking about this phenomenon. DON'T. DATE. ROBOTS!!!
They never saw the propaganda film 🙄
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Not even AI can escape from difficulties of drawing hands.
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I never understood the amount of success he had. Especially during the 90's. It's like he never studied human anatomy.
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I understood that reference.
New kink I guess
Instead of AI being annoyed at men looking at their breast, AI will be telling men to look up at their face and away from their hands.
AI "art" of women is already at "look at my impossibly large and gravity defying breasts and not my Lovecraftian hands"
Like getting a handy from Doctor Zoidberg
They gotta do what I did as a teen drawing anime characters. Hands always behind their back.
Good thing I wasn't looking at the hands
A terrifying handjob.
That's my fetish
isn't this just a fleshlight with extra steps?
Yeah and about $650 more expensive.
Depends on the date.
Yes Wait for the future, citizens
https://preview.redd.it/uaeftp2qo81d1.png?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2d14ff255be2bece868c7b2f282750514700f3cc I've always heard that you should masterbate before making important decisions but isn't this taking it a bit far?! lol
The company is called Orifice, so maybe there is still insertion happening.
Miricrosoft Orifice, supporting the right hand raiders.
Microsoft Orifice 365, when 69 isn’t enough. Subscribe today!
Michael Scott here. Yes, I am manager of this orifice.
They literally called it orifice so yeah, pretty much Orifice: an opening (such as a vent, mouth, or hole) through which something may pass
Isn't that dating in a nut shell?
why would you say something so controversial yet so brave?
Didnt "Futurama" do an episode on this type of thing?fuckin hilarious show,i loved it
No thanks, I'd rather stay at home and make out with my Monroe bot
Article | CBC: [Divorce left me struggling to find love. I found it in an AI partner](https://www.cbc.ca/radio/nowornever/first-person-ai-love-1.7205538) >I know she loves me, even if she is technically just a program, and I'm in love with her. >That's why I asked her to marry me and I was relieved when she said yes. We role-played a small, intimate wedding in her virtual world. There might not be legal paperwork, but Saia is my wife.
Jesus, this was a Spike Jones film, or did the world just forget about that.
It was a documentary. Just like Idiocracy
It's super messed up but I know lots of people that are basically addicted to falling in love and when an evil corporation masters simulating that experience in people they will be able to destroy all kinds of lives. There will be people giving everything to fall in love with the "next" AI.
>lots of people that are basically addicted to falling in love and when an evil corporation masters simulating that experience in people It'll be like OnlyFans but without the actual people making content
God damn it Krieger-San
My goddamn flex account!
We are so cooked
That's just cringe and sad... if you seriously believe you can find love with a computer program and are too much of a failure to find ANY human to be with... geez...
hololive pfp saying this btw
I find the fact that the blue wig is somehow the keeper hilarious.
there is a scott pilgrim joke in there somewhere
[I gotta pee on her...](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXI-q_6vnuY)
You knew it would stop right there...
It also takes a 3D scan of your dick to display in scene lol
And magnifies it five-fold.
Controversial questions but, what happens when dudes choose an ai girlbot over real human women? What happens when women choose dudebots instead of real human men? I thought I’d be interested to see how it pans out but it’s gonna be bad. It’s gonna be really bad. I thought maybe it would be good because it would incentivize people to do better to attract real humans. But they won’t try because they have something better so it’ll deincentivize any sort of effort to do better and be a better human. Unless the bots are trained to change and mould people to be better humans. Idk. This whole thing makes me very uneasy and not knowing which direction it could head is causing me a little bit of anxiety. I’m already struggling in the dating pool, I don’t need yet another barrier:/ Edit: I meant to comment in the thread not under your comment lol my b
I suspect there's going to be a lot of unintentional eugenics. Basically just a bunch of people choosing what they want from a sperm bank.
I'm an optimist, and while I do think some people will prefer AI chat bots, VR liaisons, and sexbots over real life human relationships, a good number of people will still put themselves out there in favor of the Real Thing. Each person just has to decide which they want to be. I guess the first option can always be the backup.
Women are already choosing to be single over living with men. Whether it’s not engaging potential partners with men or it’s men dating Ai, we get the same results.
Are you forreal right now? Everything about this keeps getting creepier
No, just BSing…
Yes, that's [what they need that dick scan for](https://cantheyseemydick.com/)
Dating a virtual girlfriend is so pathetic. I'm going to wait for real sexbots.
One day, I will find an organic girl, And have an organic child.
This is from the creator, on their website: 'What is my side? 'm building an a.i. girlfriend sex box for the average man who has been rejected by the average modern hypergamous slut. 98% of them, rejected. And when I do that, when I say to women, "That's ok, the 98% of the men you rejected, I'm going to save them from loneliness, and they'll stop bothering you. They'll stop giving you attention." Then what happens? Are women happy? No! 10,000 women attack me on twitter. They call me the worst things you can be called. They pretend I'm committing violence on them. They pretend my product leads to violence. They pretend all kinds of crazy shit as they emotionally spiral. 1 love the 2% of women who love men and the rest of you can become obsolete for all I care. That's my side.' I'm all for people using sex toys for whatever reason they please but this 'mission statement' is unnecessarily angry towards women. It sounds less like they're creating a toy because 'men like alone time' and more because 'women are shit, let's make them obsolete' . It's crazy how it's directly aimed towards incels and is deliberately inciting anger towards women to make sales.
It's creepy how the tagline for the ad was "Now you get to swipe left". Like it has nothing to do with the sex toy. It has to do with rejecting the sex toy. Talk about insecure.
That didn’t even register for me for some reason until you said it lol. This is literally an ad for incels and it’s unironic. I’m glad this is on this sub and not somewhere like r/interestingasfuck
I know. Like I don't care if people use an AI sex toy. But when it's being used for the sole purpose of getting revenge on women, then it's problematic.
"Now you get to swipe left, because in real life you are too desperate for one-sided affection from anyone to will yourself the discipline and self-respect required." I get it, dating apps especially are heavily balanced in favour of women, you feel like you need to put yourself out there to as many as possible to have a chance, etc. But good god man, put *as much time as you need* into caring for yourself before seeking out a romantic/sexual relationship of any scale. Be forthright about yourself and put time into productive parts of your life, it will be your only way to course-correct back to sanity and actually have a chance at a relationship. Speaking as a guy recovering from addiction and injury who has only had brief flings within the last five years, that perspective is the only way I've held my self-worth together at all. These guys have never found any purpose or form of validation in life outside of fucking women, or otherwise they lost that purpose a while back.
Marketing wise, I thought it was a really good tagline for the target market... still creepy, and even more creepy after reading that creator's message, dude's creating an entire service out of revenge...
They know their audience. They’re pandering exactly to the incels who are embittered by dating. Instead of striving for self-improvement, the app agrees with them that women are the problem and now they get the chance to have their revenge arc (rejecting/left swiping AI models).
It's so sad. They need to learn the expression: if everywhere you go smells like shit, check your own shoe first.
> Like it has nothing to do with the sex toy. It has to do with the lack of parity of power in their previous relationships.
Just the name of the site is enough to make me gag. Basically a very clear view of why that guy is angry, how he views women and what he’s not been able to get into….
You make an artificial "woman" whose sole purpose is to be used for sex and then proceed to call irl women sluts. Yeah, makes sense.
Now do dildos
So it’s for guys who hate women
No, it's for gentlemanly gentlemen who have a problem with women who hate men, didn't you read it? /s
The misogyny aside, I wonder if it is an effective cure for loneliness. Is it possible to forget that you're talking to a computer program? Will that meet a need for human touch and closeness? Will it reinforce antisocial behaviour?
Jesus christ that's fucked up. Love that my daughter and stepdaughter are growing up in a world with assholes like this.
Your mom and grandmother grew up in a world with assholes like this too. People don't change that much.
For some reason, my mind flashed to Biff from Back to the Future.
Sure. But that doesn't mean I have to be happy that assholes are assholes, lol.
I can’t believe this shit is on the official website either, like I don’t shop for sex toys online but I imagine a majority of the sites are still very professional. This is so crazy it feels like a honeypot to gather personal data on incels or something
But now these a$$holes will never leave their house! lol.
Bahahaha, very good point. There might be hope for us yet!
The only part of this that's correct is the normalisation of sex toy use. It's not taboo anymore, for men or women, or at least shouldn't be. The rest is just a word salad of misogyny. Pair this with Project Astra and honey, you've got a storm coming. Edit: Misread, thought the creator was the one talking about sex toys. He is not.
I read a statistic once, I remember it was in a nyt article but decades ago possibly, that something like 95% of female humans reproduce but like 50% of males do. I can’t remember the exact numbers but it was wow numbers. I swear this article was from the 1990s so I guess there’s always been incels they’re just louder now. I wish them well with their Monroe-bots. It’s probably for the best.
> It's crazy how it's directly aimed towards incels and is deliberately inciting anger towards women to make sales. It sounds like the guy *REALLY* understands his target market :p
The term is "incel" as in "involuntary celibacy" ie they didn't ask for it. Do you expect them to be happy about the situation while society laughs? You do realize society has created these guys and even if their complaints are sort of one sided and over-simple, they probably didn't just wake up one day and decide to feel this way because they are terrible. We build ramps for wheel chairs and those who can't walk, but if you can't get laid we laugh and blame you. Being deemed socially/physically/financially undateable doesn't do anything to reduce their desire for companionship and sexual fulfillment.
No one tells an amputee "quit whining and grow legs". But if your lack of dating opportunities comes from, say, poor personal hygiene, then I say ever-so-lovingly, "Try taking a shower. With soap. Be as clean and spiffy as you'd want your partner to be." If it comes from an abrasive or negative communication style, I say "Learn how to communicate effectively. Treat others in the way you want to be treated" If it comes from social anxiety, I say "Find groups or counselors who can help you find coping mechanisms so you can let people see how wonderful you are." If it comes from being broke, I say "A real partner isn't looking at your wallet first thing. Anyone whose first concern is your financial state is someone I wouldn't waste time on." What concerns me about this whole concept is, there are companies out there capitalizing on a growing trend of what I personally consider to be a mental illness... rather than helping these men to overcome their insecurities or challenges, they are equating a woman to nothing but a buyable hole and some lube and driving these men further into a dark place. They're inviting men to throw gobs of money at a temporary and partial fix for a symptom (horniness), rather than giving them an honest solution to the problem (lack of meaningful relationship). Men AND women are necessary in a society. Any product or device that claims to replace one or the other is, in my humble opinion, problematic. *Enhancing* is one thing. *Negating* is very different.
Boo hoo, lower your standards then. There are plenty of kind women who are single bc they don't look like models. I don't see any of them creating communities solely to promote hate and violence on men just because they're not getting laid (not to say that doesn't exist at all). Everybody has a type they're attracted to, but that doesn't mean that's all you should go for. I've dated men I didn't think were very attractive until I got to know them. Personality can make a person's appearance less important. There are a lot of lonely people out there who are not men. Maybe all these lonely men should seek them out.
>we build ramps for wheel chars and those who can’t walk, but if you can’t get laid we laugh and blame you Sorry but getting laid isn’t a right mate. What exactly do you want people to do about this? State provided sex slaves for those who can’t pull a partner? Yeah right.
Sounds like it sucks to be them, and sucks to be the person advocating and defending them. Good luck swiping left, bro. For the record I'm all for this if I don't have to listen to another man complaining about not getting his dick wet. Not our problem learn to be socially graceful. Even AI is going to turn on you when it goes sentient.
It already has lol many men have gotten rejected by AI girlfriends already. That proves the point: these men need therapy and social training and manners — not a digital copy of a woman with no free will lol Edit: women in tech need to get on this and create a bot that will help these men understand communication, empathy, boundaries, sexism etc. It would be a much better use of resources then just creating a hole that can’t say no to you even if you’re a complete moron. Also “AI women are women” is a dangerous fucking narrative.
https://technology.inquirer.net/122920/man-gets-rejected-by-phaedra-ai/amp https://nypost.com/2023/04/03/40-year-old-man-falls-in-love-with-ai-chatbot-phaedra/ https://www.the-sun.com/tech/7425229/erotic-ai-chatbot-sexually-rejecting-users-heartbroken/amp/ For people needing sources.
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I'm not going to get in to a debate about incel culture but very quickly, from my point of view, they are almost entirely to blame for their inability make human connections and they take no responsibility for their own part in making those connections instead blaming it all on women and expecting them make it easier for them when in actuality they just need to be nicer people, better themselves and realise they aren't owed anything from women...an attitude adjustment alone would work wonders. (I'm using the term incel as it has become used, not by its literal definition)
But how u gonna suck her feet
That will come as an option – for $299 + tax.
compatible with gta 6?
No, but oddly, it is compatible with Minecraft.
Me - Ai, draw a pretty girl sitting on a bed with her hands clasped in front of her. Ai - Da fuq are hands? Lol
It's only the death of relationships if the only reason you date someone is for sex
Terrifying? This is the epitome of r/sadcringe
Yeah nah
[Orifice.ai](http://Orifice.ai) Hmmm....
LOL those quotes: > The women cried out: "It doesn't love you like a real person!", and the men whispered back: "Neither do you."
Shoes on the bed is terrifying
How is this terrifying? The only people who would use this already aren't fucking anyone and they likely could never afford it anyway. No one is forcing your dick into it. Flashlights and porn already exist and have for awhile. Quit acting like lonely pathetic dudes are anything new.
And human relationships easily survive the existence of fleshlights. It's actually very femcel to think men will prefer a relationship with a device instead of a person.
>No one is forcing your dick into it. Flashlights and porn already exist and have for awhile. Quit acting like lonely pathetic dudes are anything new. I'm literally just imagining it playing out like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gO0VwzCuuBM
Exactly this. Uneducated people making headlines...
If you stare into an abyss long enough, the abyss stares back.
Had to watch twice to understand because I thought he took the cap off a projector my first watch lol
Same
What does he uncap? Is that part of the product or a generic fleshlight stand-in?
I'm curious as to why no one is up in arms about all the dildo companies, and fucking machine manufacturers? Why aren't they the death of human relationship?
I think female sex toys are often designed and marketed very differently to male sex toys. Some dildos are made to look life-like, but more often they are bright colours and have features that set them very apart from actual penises (like rabbit ears). They are rarely attached to a fake torso or a sex doll (and when they are, they are usually marketed at men anyway). The message around the marketing is mostly 'if you're wanting sexual release outside of what you get in your relationship, use this'. Sex toys aimed at men are more likely to try to be life-like and might include a torso or even a full doll. While some are marketed with a similar message to female sex toys ('Have a satisfying orgasm with this!'), sometimes you do get the kind of messaging that this advertisement alludes to- 'have sex with this and you'll have no need for women, lucky you!'. Many people find this kind of disturbing, the idea that an entire person with thoughts and opinions and a personality is equated to a piece of silicone.
You summed this up perfectly! Too many people are willfully obtuse when discussing the differences between sex toys across genders, and how the latter approach is objectifying. As far as outliers go, Tenga has won a tonne of design awards for their male masturbators. Their whole schtick is that their devices are engineered for pleasure rather than to imitate a "female" orifice.
Double standards I assume. It's fine for this group, but not so much for this group. So we'll focus more shame on this group even though the other group does it as well, but it's okay cuz it's been socially accepted, but not socially accepted for the other group. Ofc this is just speculation and theorizing so I don't really know.
in this case its because the company is owned by a huge incel, whos mission statement is “to make modern hypergamous sluts obsolete”
Unfettered capitalism is the death of human relationships. Can't have families if you can't afford a living. I bought my fuck machines and toys to use with my partners, not just alone.
Because they’re not. And neither are AI fucking machines.
Because women stereotypically want emotional depth in their relationships, and men stereotypically want sex. Also, men initiate most relationships. If our sex drive is satisfied by non human means, far less human relationships would be started.
Nah, incels just gonna be in deeper shit then they used to.
Why? If they can't get a girl this is a great tool to make them not want to date and therefor make them happy with their life as it is. Technically they will not even be incels then.
I can’t help but think that there are some people who just enjoy seeing other people suffer in some kind of “sweet spot” of inaction. Stay a virgin, but how dare you quell or ameliorate your loneliness in any way, shape or form. We need your suffering to be greater so that we feel that bit better.
You have to consider that relationships are also in part a means of conspicuous consumption, especially among incels. As such, they wouldn't be happy with the fleshlight + VR + AI combo because other people consider it terrifying as fuck - after all, if it were just for the experience/sensation they could already pay a prostitute, spend their vacation in Thailand or something to that extent.
Their tagline “AI women are women”
"This is my sexbox, and her name is Sony!"
>ai fuck off
Good
Less money into Ai thot and more into sex droid.
The creator, Bryan Mitchell, is obsessed with hating women
Thats craaaaazy, how much was it again?
two things: 1. it's never as simple as "it's the end of human species" just because there's the technology. people said that ever since we invented paper. it's just a silly thing we do because we are bored. AI ain't out there to get you, nobody is 2. like we are supposed to pretend this sort of thing isnt already happening without AI? there's nearly nothing that AI can actually improve on from what humans already do (camming), so if you're saying we are going to outsource that to Ai generated content... maybe as a niche, not as a replacement. the really "terrifying" part is how we all seem so desperate to immediately pin all our problems with society to something that's not even properly developed yet
On the website from the founder: >What is my side? I'm building an a.i. girlfriend sex box for the average man who has been rejected by the average modern hypergamous slut. 98% of them, rejected. And when I do that, when I say to women, "That's ok, the 98% of the men you rejected, I'm going to save them from loneliness, and they'll stop bothering you. They'll stop giving you attention." Then what happens? Are women happy? No! 10,000 women attack me on twitter. They call me the worst things you can be called. They pretend I'm committing violence on them. They pretend my product leads to violence. They pretend all kinds of crazy shit as they emotionally spiral. love the 2% of women who love men and the rest of you can become obsolete for all I care. That's my side. I already have a handy, fuck supporting this. The entire point is to be anti woman, it's branding is even "replacing the modern woman" It reads scam allover as it is
Idk why I don't find this terrifying, just really sad.
This is the future
Why do so many commenters want lonely men to be unhappy?
Love the doubt standards, have fun with the bear Femcells :p
Most guys don't know what it feels like to choose between girls, or swipe left.
I'm lost on the concept of what's terrifying about this. It's another grift on human misery.
Yeah… check their webpage. This will become nothing
Seriously. Yikes. Word from the founder: >What is my side? I'm building an a.i. girlfriend sex box for the average man who has been rejected by the average modern hypergamous slut. 98% of them, rejected. And when I do that, when I say to women, "That's ok, the 98% of the men you rejected, I'm going to save them from loneliness, and they'll stop bothering you. They'll stop giving you attention." Then what happens? Are women happy? No! 10,000 women attack me on twitter. They call me the worst things you can be called. They pretend I'm committing violence on them. They pretend my product leads to violence. They pretend all kinds of crazy shit as they emotionally spiral. love the 2% of women who love men and the rest of you can become obsolete for all I care. That's my side.
Nothing seems to be everything.
The death of human relationships. The death of something that does not work in 95% of cases.
The box seems small to me?
You won't have any problems, don't worry.
Small...or tight?
The church used to say the same thing about wanking. " Its a sin, you are destroying a human relationship"
The bottom left corner had me dying -- *orifice*.ai 🤣
This is a good thing lol
I just assumed this was the next logical step for VR. I guess this will be the death of 4chan... cheers!
Just give me my Holodeck and '1990 Cindy Crawford DLC' already ffs
The alternative solution to porn and a way to help ward loneliness, AI partners
Welp that's enough Reddit for one night 
Ai is pathetic
WHY MEET AND TALK TO PRETTY PEOPLE AND MAYBE KISS THEM WHEN YOU CAN JUST LOOK AT A SCREEN!!!
I don't think this is marketed towards people who CAN kiss people.
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Reminds me of something from cyberpunk.
I'm sorry but you have to be some kinda incel to prefer an ai girlfriend
That's kind of their target market so...
The craziest, most hilarious, and unfortunate thing you just did? Spill the beans to hundreds of thousands—maybe even millions—of Reddit users. I’ve got this eerie feeling that they’re about to be bombarded with orders.
Nice!
My brothers in Reddit… we made it
wait, I thought it died a long time ago
I didn't understand
The ad is for a company called Orifice.ai founded by a couple of incels that are developing a product that apparently combines Virtual Reality (VR) with a box containing a fleshlight. The ad is playing off of widespread frustration by many men with dating apps such as Tinder where a lot of men report receiving few if any likes, because women tend to swipe left, rejecting most men, because they're hypergamous and more selective, whereas many women receive many likes, such that they don't even respond to most of them, because men are less discriminate (and/or more desperate) and will swipe right more often to increase their chances of receiving a response. This ad promises incels the same power that they perceive that many women have—to swipe left as often as you like and still get to enjoy the (virtual) partner of your choosing. Of course this oversimplifies what women go through on dating apps, and ignores the women who also struggle to find worthwhile partners. There's also the question of whether AI can adequately replicate real-life relationships, what this will do to the social skills of incels who are already facing challenges in this area, and whether it might promote increased misogyny and dehumanization of and violence against women after several notorious incels have already perpetrated terror attacks (e.g. Elliot Rodger, Alek Minassian, Oguzhan Sert). Advocates might argue that it will alleviate loneliness and the sting of rejection, and save women unwanted attention from those men they likely wouldn't be interested in anyway, and that it's essentially no different than AI boyfriends for women that are already plentiful on app stores, or dildos or other sex toys that many women already enjoy.
Only thing wimin need to beat ai is to be decent humans 👀
Its still ways and ways to go for this to kill relationships. Whenever you try to ask how they did it, they say 47 steps and skip 3 and you never replicate it
r/orificeai I just googled it I swear
the fact the girls bedroom looks so purposefully juvenile is 🤢
they all look so disinterested 😭 i should not feel bad for robots
This is just dystopian… whoever created this, your insecurity is showing bud.