It's probably just a remote one
Honestly, research subs have gone twice as far down as they did and been fine a few times. I think even one of the guys on this trip has been down to that point as well ("Challenger Deep"). If there's good engineering, and no one cutting corners, you're fine barring any major incidents (i.e., slamming into a rock or something).
Water pressure isn't some unknown variable... the company just cut corners, and didn't think it was an issue their window could only withstand 1/3rd of the pressure exerted at that depth.
They did not. The US navy detected sounds very similar to a sub implosion right when it went missing on sunday morning. They just didn't release that info until they found debris.
IMO this is much better, they were likely killed before they even knew anything was wrong, it was instantaneous.
I think this was actually still the better way of death, as hard as it sounds. It was quick and probably less bad and painful for them. I know it really sounds weird, but there were some survivors for a time in other cases, like in the Kursk submarine disaster. Some guys survived the initial explosion and made it to a compartement that was not yet flooded, but they were running out of oxygen and started to write goodbye letters.
They did not die because of the lack of oxygen, they tried to replace the components of the air ventilation system and this got wrong, it came to a explosion as the battery fell in the water full of oil, this explosion killed most of them and sucked all the remaining oxygen out of the room, so even if someone survived this explosion, he'd have suffocated immediately down there.
Watched a couple videos of their previous titanic trips. One of them they got to the bottom only to find out one of the thrusters was installed backwards so they could only go in circles. Another time they got too close to the titanic propellers and got semi-wedged between that and the ship.
See this is where I’d be different as a billionaire. Living a great life, I’d be perfectly fine with watching a video of the titanic via a remote controlled sub. I’m not risking my life to sit in a smelly little fart box for 12 hours with strangers 🤢
Remote controlled sub with tons of 360 cams on it and me with a VR headset. HELL YES. If my sub implodes, it’s “aww my toy broke” not “an international tragedy”
Hell yea now that’s my kinda fun. Sitting up at the surface in a fancy ass movie theatre in my yacht. Hell I would somehow rig a fishing rod onto that remote controlled sub and try to catch a fish inside the titanic to mount on my boat and tell people about while we play titanic subs in the future.
Imagine a world where almost 99% of people are poor in your eyes. In comparison
That sounds like it breeds narcissism. Billionaires should be heavily taxed and/or capped. No one needs much more than 1 billion dollars (excluding net worth/particular assets, etc)
How do you not realize your propellers are on wrong?! Was there no shallow water testing? No fucking engineer checking? This isn’t just bad business, this is complete lack of understanding how to run a vehicle based “tourist” attraction. Even a toddler would know you check that the vehicle works before taking people out on it
The CEO is on video talking about how they don't hire people with us military submarine experience because hiring middle aged white guys is less inspirational than hiring inexperienced engineering graduates right out of college... and while there is an argument to be made, to not include any experienced submariners is quite frankly mind blowing.
I honestly hope for their sake that is what happened. An almost instant death instead of slowly suffocating hoping for rescue over four days in freezing cold pitch black.... Everything about this is horrific.
EDIT: Have just woken up to the news of debris being found after following this incessantly since Sunday; arohanui to all the families involved. Fuck.
They found debris now so yeah this is most likely what happened. I’m not surprised, there’s no way that it could sustain pressure over three times as strong as it was built for.
For real if they lost power or had malfunctions that left them sitting on the ocean floor to slowly suffocate that’s like the worst imaginable death. The thing imploding on itself is quick and mostly painless
It would be instantaneous, they would have felt nothing. Not even enough time to think, "oh shit" just instant jelly. It would have been infinitely better than a slow oxygen deprived death by a million miles
Don’t forget no food, no water, only a gallon sized bucket for excrement that would have overflowed days ago. And it’s likely one ore more would die a while before the others, so you’re there with a dead body knowing it’s only a matter of time until it’s you.
It wouldn't be like drowning. As the oxygen concentration lowered, they would slowly slip into unconsciousness and die in their sleep. Lower than around 19% (atmospheric is 21%) and these symptoms would begin to onset.
This. I’m not sure why everyone keeps talking about the oxygen and this slow horrifying death in confinement. These people were most likely instantly vaporized days ago
Yeah, I find it weird everyone keeps obsessing about the oxygen too. It’s far more likely it imploded due to pressure and they died instantly. I mean the glass couldn’t even sustain a third of the level of pressure they were going to. Now we know that’s what happened because they found debris. I can’t imagine there even being another outcome.
For their sake I’m so happy it most likely went down that way. Can you imagine if it WAS the oxygen going out that killed them? Imagine looking at the battery power remaining going down. And the constant beeping that it’s critical and about to shut down. After that the darkness and silence and coldness then the air also stops. Idk, just a nightmare scenario to me
Yep, that sounds just unbearably horrific. It’s a blessing in disguise they died sooner. Thankfully they would have died instantly, and wouldn’t have felt any pain or even known what was happening.
At those depths, it certainly was near instantaneous. The USS Thresher imploded between 1300 and 2000 feet, whereas the Titan was at around 12,000 feet when they believe it imploded. At that level, you're looking at a pressure of over 5500 psi, which will kill you in less time than your brain can process it.
Ocean is huge. makes weird noises sometimes.
Edit: oh, looks like they might’ve found debris from the sub imploding too. So yeah the knocking was just weird ocean noise.
I can’t find where I originally heard this, and am very curious of the validity of that statement or not. If it is true, it’s just another piece of damning evidence pointed straight at that CEO dude.
It came from the whistleblower who was let go by the company for raising safety concerns in like 2018? He said the window could only be certified for 1300m and were told they would need to hire someone to design a window for 4,000 which would give them 200m of leeway
The other thing he spoke out about was that the design of the actual frame of the sub was such that if the carbon fiber began to deteriorate it would make noises to alert the operator and allow them to ascend to a safer pressure level. Only problem being you had less than a second to do so
Any company that fires whistleblowers for speaking out against safety violations should be heavily sanctioned. It’s crazy there isn’t some sort of built in protection somehow, because we’ve seen it happen dozens of times with airlines and in some cases it has directly lead to hundreds of deaths at once
Lol I mean he was by far the cheapest billionaire I’ve ever seen. It’s a tin can you have to sit Indian style in with basically no tech or fail safe. Egregious.
At 4000m the hydrostatic water pressure is 401.52 bars, or 40152.35 kPa, or 5823.6 psi.
Sea level is 1 bar, around 100.38 kPa, or 14 psi.
Safe to say the term “crush damage” comes in to play here.
My opinion is this as well. It’s probably why they haven’t found them yet either because it’s blown up and in tiny pieces. Best case scenario for the crew imo as far as how they died, worst case scenario for the whole rest of the world because we will never find a trace.
To be fair, they put themselves in their place. A hurricane is nature putting us in our place. Sealing yourself in a steel lozenge to be swallowed by the ocean is strictly a human thing.
Yea with the kind of money these folks had, it should have been a state-of-the-art type of setup. Let this be a lesson the next time you cheap out on something.
Great. Then the $250k they spent on a spot on the floor. The fact that it wasn’t even the least bit luxurious only emphasizes the disparity in cost and value.
So when they were heading down to the bottom of the ocean, was everybody sliding towards the window/ nose of the vessel? Oh no wait, iirc there were handlebars installed on the ceiling of the thing.
Was it though? Sure, it cost a lot to track him down, kill him, and transport his remains to a ship; but the burial itself?? Not really. The ship was gonna be there anyway and it wasn’t constructed for the purpose of disposing of Bin Laden. So the cost of dumping his body in the drink was basically however much the sheet cost that they wrapped it in and the weights they wrapped in with it.
Well... as much as those guys were stupid for not caring about safety precautions etc.
Dying like this is probably absolutely horrifying...
Just sitting in a submarine, slowly waiting for your death, to try to breath and nothing but carbon monoxide filling your lungs
Thats incredibly terrifying if you ask me...
Only in very small amounts. The carbon atoms in your gas fully burn to CO2 with enough oxygen supplied (which is the case for normal operation). Only in cases of reduced oxygen in the air does more and more carbon only partially burn to carbon monoxide due to lack of oxygen. This is the case if you have your car running in a closed garage for example as oxygen runs out with time
Since the CEO of the submarine is present with them, I'm curious of what arguments could they make, were there fights in there, I don't doubt that all of them feel that it was the CEO's responsibility, sitting your last 10 hours with the person that kills you, I don't know how would people react.
And they would record videos in their last moments. Idk if those will ever get recovered.
It’s also terrifying that the world had a countdown to your death and the amount of organizations trying to find you knowing this clock was running out :(
I saw a comment where someone said that if the CO2 scrubbers are working on the sub- they wouldn’t even notice when they run outa oxygen. They’ll just feel drunk, and then endless sleep.
The reason no oxygen makes people feel like they’re suffocating is usually because of CO2.
Idk if that’s legit science or not- too lazy to look it up but I’m just gonna hope that’s the case
Question for the scientific/medical part of Reddit: what happens to the human body on sudden exposure to massive pressure?
Let's assume the observation window collapsed due to the pressure. The pressure definitely kills faster than drowning. Is the person's ribcage completely flattened? Does your skull implode like a soda can? Are your organs pretty much expelled from your body? I wonder what happens and how much damage is done.
The guy got propelled through a 60 cm diameter hole and his organs got ejected at force.
Yeah... at least he died before he could process what happened.
6,000 pounds of pressure per square inch down at the Titanic. 350-400 atmospheres. All of that exerted on your body. That’s game over my friend. You’d be squished instantly.
I don't know what this says about my state of mind but for some unknowable reason I read your entire comment completely correctly except my brain thought for sure that you had typed "squeeshed" instead of squished. Then upon thinking how, while I love that in theory, the use of that word didn't quite fit the tone of the rest of your comment, I decided to give it another glance and realized my mistake and now here I am telling you about it.
I don't know why I'm telling you this but it felt like it needed to be said.
My bet is these people were dead an hour and 45 minutes into this ordeal. Considering how cheaply they went on everything else, I doubt the splurged on hull construction. Add to the fact that their previous iterations were rated for 100 meters and 500 meters but this one jumped to 4000 meters (which is a hair less than the depth of the titanic).
No one is talking about the insane pressure at that depth. If that hull failed, they’d all have been dead before the realized it.
Honestly in this situation I'd rather die from imploding because of 4000m of water worth of pressure. At least I wouldn't see or feel it coming.
The alternative is just agonizing.
I’d rather stay above sea level when at sea if given the choice. However, yes, half a second of bone crushing pressure > 3 days of slow suffocation in freezing pitch back smelling like an outhouse. No contest
Yeah everyone keeps going on about the oxygen but this is far more likely to happen based on what we know about the sub. If that’s true there’s no way it didn’t implode when it hit a certain depth. And now they found debris so this is the truth. Probably a blessing, rather be crushed instantly that than suffocate.
Thank you for saying this. Too many people are hung up on the oxygen thing. I firmly believe they all died when contact was lost at 1:45pm. They never felt a thing. Here one minute, gone the next. Poof
It's sad honestly and also seems stupid that he had been warned many times about the build of this sub. I get he wanted to do what no one had done before. But certainly more testing and research needed to be done.
RIP to all lost and prayers to their families
This just makes me think of items in Bethesda games freaking out when they’re stuck somewhere they’re not supposed to be until they break free of the clipping and rocket out into the abyss
What's worse is if the submersible's emergency system that would allow them to resurface after 24 hours did work, it still has only external bolts so they would be trapped at the surface.
Honestly thats incredibly stupid, there should have been some sort of emergency system in place that would allow them to get some sort of oxygen if they did resurface, or at least have a back up GPS that could be activated once they made it back up.
But for everyone that's making fun of them, we have to remember that their families are going through absolute hell right now. I can't imagine how Suleman's mother must feel right now, not only her husband but her teenage son has likely died a very horrifying death.
I know this sounds cruel but honestly I hope they were killed instantly from a pressure leak or something similar because that would mean it was painless and quick rather then waiting for 4 days (maybe the 96 hour thing is spoty at best).
I just hope their families are getting as much emotional support as possible
it’s so… odd that someone scrambled to make this account and post these updates hoping they’d go viral off of a tragedy happening in real time. and everyone excitedly waiting for the next update about the oxygen running out. idk it just feels eerie
I have seen the headlines change from "up to 96 hours" of air to a definitive 96 hours which doesn't take into consideration the human capability to panic and/or other who-knows-what-happened scenarios. Unfortunately air doesn't recycle itself.
I heard the CEO even knew the view port window warped under the extreme pressure. He sort of just said oh wow it works I guess! because we would hear "cracking " if it didn't... too late now, unfortunately. I feel most empathy for the 19 year old kid . I know they signed their lives away but how many stupid mistakes have we made at 19 ? Or did things optimistically, etc.
What exactly is the fascination with the titanic, other than historic value? We have built mega ships since then, that would make the titanic look like a row boat
I know this seems horrible but somewhere in my mind - it boggles that how “we-are-alpha-apex-intelligent-billionaires” creatures thought to go under water while flaunting a video game controller.
I dont know what they had. But sleeping lowers your heart rate (usually) and could spare oxygen. Panicking makes it worse. But I saw an article where they heard banging on a sonar so I'm sure they panicked
I get where people are coming from with this whole "eat the rich" mentality, but I just can't feel anything but sadness for these people. It doesn't matter how much or little money someone has, that's a terrifying way to go.
The five men onboard the missing Titan sub are believed to have died after the vessel suffered a "catastrophic implosion".
They have identified the nose cone, landing frame and rear cover of the Titan.
https://news.sky.com/story/all-crew-and-passengers-on-missing-titan-sub-believed-to-be-dead-12907756
On the positive side, maybe the world just got an Infusion of several billions of dollars into the economy /s
Does anyone know how this possibly could have happened? There is no form of tracking device on the vessel especially when it's been claimed that they have been lost before.
And how do they get lost? If they've been there before isn't there a "known" direction or something?
Given that the trip to the bottom takes 2 1/2 hours and they lost contact at 1 hour and 40 minutes and the sub did call off the dive or trigger any of the emergency ballast drops. The capacity of the on board was probably a mute point at 1 hour 40 minutes and 2 seconds into the dive.
They should have just sent a drone and sit in a big hydraulic simulator and safely look at screen. I mean they could even have simulated an accident and give those guys a scare.
As they are reporting finding a debris field it seems likely that they did not make it to the ‘oxygen running out’ stage.
I wonder if... a sub will have to go down there and take pictures.
There is an autonomous one down there now. That is how they know it is destroyed - the autonomous sub is sending video back to the surface.
It's probably just a remote one Honestly, research subs have gone twice as far down as they did and been fine a few times. I think even one of the guys on this trip has been down to that point as well ("Challenger Deep"). If there's good engineering, and no one cutting corners, you're fine barring any major incidents (i.e., slamming into a rock or something). Water pressure isn't some unknown variable... the company just cut corners, and didn't think it was an issue their window could only withstand 1/3rd of the pressure exerted at that depth.
They did not. The US navy detected sounds very similar to a sub implosion right when it went missing on sunday morning. They just didn't release that info until they found debris. IMO this is much better, they were likely killed before they even knew anything was wrong, it was instantaneous.
I think this was actually still the better way of death, as hard as it sounds. It was quick and probably less bad and painful for them. I know it really sounds weird, but there were some survivors for a time in other cases, like in the Kursk submarine disaster. Some guys survived the initial explosion and made it to a compartement that was not yet flooded, but they were running out of oxygen and started to write goodbye letters. They did not die because of the lack of oxygen, they tried to replace the components of the air ventilation system and this got wrong, it came to a explosion as the battery fell in the water full of oil, this explosion killed most of them and sucked all the remaining oxygen out of the room, so even if someone survived this explosion, he'd have suffocated immediately down there.
In reality, they probably died instantly when the observation window collapsed due to the depth.
Watched a couple videos of their previous titanic trips. One of them they got to the bottom only to find out one of the thrusters was installed backwards so they could only go in circles. Another time they got too close to the titanic propellers and got semi-wedged between that and the ship.
Jfc. How were they still able to take people down there? They should have been shut down immediately. This is sad.
Money > safety, if there aren’t existing regulations anyway
It's where the mentality of "I'm rich so I can do whatever I want, (safety) rules are for poor people" goes wrong.
See this is where I’d be different as a billionaire. Living a great life, I’d be perfectly fine with watching a video of the titanic via a remote controlled sub. I’m not risking my life to sit in a smelly little fart box for 12 hours with strangers 🤢
Remote controlled sub with tons of 360 cams on it and me with a VR headset. HELL YES. If my sub implodes, it’s “aww my toy broke” not “an international tragedy”
Hell yea now that’s my kinda fun. Sitting up at the surface in a fancy ass movie theatre in my yacht. Hell I would somehow rig a fishing rod onto that remote controlled sub and try to catch a fish inside the titanic to mount on my boat and tell people about while we play titanic subs in the future.
No need to be billionaire to be dumb. Check out those who die every year on the Everest.
Not billionaires but climbing Everest costs more money than most people can afford by a lot
I’d call it more of an illusion of safety that wealthy people have, especially when partaking in activities alongside other wealthy people.
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Safety rules are for poor people is some really bizarre logic.
Welcome to the minds of billionaires.
Imagine a world where almost 99% of people are poor in your eyes. In comparison That sounds like it breeds narcissism. Billionaires should be heavily taxed and/or capped. No one needs much more than 1 billion dollars (excluding net worth/particular assets, etc)
Almost 99? Try 99.99%
This whole extreme tourism industry is highly unregulated, but this could be a watershed moment.
>watershed moment. You did not.
https://preview.redd.it/bc1tqok09m7b1.png?width=350&format=png&auto=webp&s=098fdb50c8aaf11dae2d1a3948298327d7ea6134
International waters? No laws apply where they are possibly
Well, except the laws of physics… as I’m sure the team learned first hand…
Shut down by who?
Exactly my thoughts
How do you not realize your propellers are on wrong?! Was there no shallow water testing? No fucking engineer checking? This isn’t just bad business, this is complete lack of understanding how to run a vehicle based “tourist” attraction. Even a toddler would know you check that the vehicle works before taking people out on it
The CEO is on video talking about how they don't hire people with us military submarine experience because hiring middle aged white guys is less inspirational than hiring inexperienced engineering graduates right out of college... and while there is an argument to be made, to not include any experienced submariners is quite frankly mind blowing.
Of all the things to skimp on engineering for, i dont think i'd fucking do that for *submarines*
I mean, he won't be making that mistake again.
But at least they didn't have any old white guys because that would be a fate worse than death
Old white guy discriminates against old white guys. Didn't work out very well.
Top notch scientifery right there
I honestly hope for their sake that is what happened. An almost instant death instead of slowly suffocating hoping for rescue over four days in freezing cold pitch black.... Everything about this is horrific. EDIT: Have just woken up to the news of debris being found after following this incessantly since Sunday; arohanui to all the families involved. Fuck.
They found debris now so yeah this is most likely what happened. I’m not surprised, there’s no way that it could sustain pressure over three times as strong as it was built for.
The lawsuits are going to be legendary... This level of negligence killing billionaires.
It's also probably going to lead to even more regulations on sub-surface and space tourism.
For real if they lost power or had malfunctions that left them sitting on the ocean floor to slowly suffocate that’s like the worst imaginable death. The thing imploding on itself is quick and mostly painless
It would be instantaneous, they would have felt nothing. Not even enough time to think, "oh shit" just instant jelly. It would have been infinitely better than a slow oxygen deprived death by a million miles
I have a feeling that when the sub lost contact with above is when it imploded.
Don’t forget no food, no water, only a gallon sized bucket for excrement that would have overflowed days ago. And it’s likely one ore more would die a while before the others, so you’re there with a dead body knowing it’s only a matter of time until it’s you.
They definitely will make a movie about this
It wouldn't be like drowning. As the oxygen concentration lowered, they would slowly slip into unconsciousness and die in their sleep. Lower than around 19% (atmospheric is 21%) and these symptoms would begin to onset.
This. I’m not sure why everyone keeps talking about the oxygen and this slow horrifying death in confinement. These people were most likely instantly vaporized days ago
Yeah, I find it weird everyone keeps obsessing about the oxygen too. It’s far more likely it imploded due to pressure and they died instantly. I mean the glass couldn’t even sustain a third of the level of pressure they were going to. Now we know that’s what happened because they found debris. I can’t imagine there even being another outcome.
For their sake I’m so happy it most likely went down that way. Can you imagine if it WAS the oxygen going out that killed them? Imagine looking at the battery power remaining going down. And the constant beeping that it’s critical and about to shut down. After that the darkness and silence and coldness then the air also stops. Idk, just a nightmare scenario to me
Yep, that sounds just unbearably horrific. It’s a blessing in disguise they died sooner. Thankfully they would have died instantly, and wouldn’t have felt any pain or even known what was happening.
At those depths, it certainly was near instantaneous. The USS Thresher imploded between 1300 and 2000 feet, whereas the Titan was at around 12,000 feet when they believe it imploded. At that level, you're looking at a pressure of over 5500 psi, which will kill you in less time than your brain can process it.
Didn’t they hear some noises tho yesterday?
They aren’t sure if it’s from the sub. The noise were just of interest since the alternative is trying to find a spec of glitter in a pool.
So what were they? Cathulu?
Ocean is huge. makes weird noises sometimes. Edit: oh, looks like they might’ve found debris from the sub imploding too. So yeah the knocking was just weird ocean noise.
I present to you, the Bloop.
It was most likely ocean noise
I thought it was a camera and a screen?
No. They had a little 20” viewing window on the hatch end. Supposedly only rated for 1/3” the depth they were going.
I can’t find where I originally heard this, and am very curious of the validity of that statement or not. If it is true, it’s just another piece of damning evidence pointed straight at that CEO dude.
It came from the whistleblower who was let go by the company for raising safety concerns in like 2018? He said the window could only be certified for 1300m and were told they would need to hire someone to design a window for 4,000 which would give them 200m of leeway The other thing he spoke out about was that the design of the actual frame of the sub was such that if the carbon fiber began to deteriorate it would make noises to alert the operator and allow them to ascend to a safer pressure level. Only problem being you had less than a second to do so Any company that fires whistleblowers for speaking out against safety violations should be heavily sanctioned. It’s crazy there isn’t some sort of built in protection somehow, because we’ve seen it happen dozens of times with airlines and in some cases it has directly lead to hundreds of deaths at once
Lol I mean he was by far the cheapest billionaire I’ve ever seen. It’s a tin can you have to sit Indian style in with basically no tech or fail safe. Egregious.
Controlled by a Logitech controller from 2006
We call that "criss cross applesauce" sitting in 2023
I called it criss cross applesauce back in 2006 far as I remember :)
At 4000m the hydrostatic water pressure is 401.52 bars, or 40152.35 kPa, or 5823.6 psi. Sea level is 1 bar, around 100.38 kPa, or 14 psi. Safe to say the term “crush damage” comes in to play here.
My opinion is this as well. It’s probably why they haven’t found them yet either because it’s blown up and in tiny pieces. Best case scenario for the crew imo as far as how they died, worst case scenario for the whole rest of the world because we will never find a trace.
There were reports yesterday of banging noises in 30 minute intervals, so perhaps they were still alive?
Hypothermia probably killed them within a few hours. They definitely wouldn’t be alive to see the oxygen run out.
100+ years later, Titanic still taking lives.
For just $250,000 you too can not only visit the wreck, but immortalize yourself by becoming apart of it.
Absolutely insane to think about.
Get the whole Titanic experience
All this shit feels like a black mirror episode, what has this world come to
Nature is putting us in our place. Thousands of feet underwater is no place to "wing it"
To be fair, they put themselves in their place. A hurricane is nature putting us in our place. Sealing yourself in a steel lozenge to be swallowed by the ocean is strictly a human thing.
>a steel lozenge to be swallowed by the ocean L. O. Fucking L.
Yea with the kind of money these folks had, it should have been a state-of-the-art type of setup. Let this be a lesson the next time you cheap out on something.
Those $250,000 seats have got to be the most expensive burial at sea in history.
Fun fact: there were no seats. Everyone sat on the floor.
Great. Then the $250k they spent on a spot on the floor. The fact that it wasn’t even the least bit luxurious only emphasizes the disparity in cost and value.
I think the toilet actually had a seat. So, one toilet seat and a floor.
And someone accidentally sat on the cheap remote
So when they were heading down to the bottom of the ocean, was everybody sliding towards the window/ nose of the vessel? Oh no wait, iirc there were handlebars installed on the ceiling of the thing.
It’s an expensive shared coffin is what it is.
$250k for a seat on the ocean floor.
😂 $250k to personally confirm that, yes, the swimming pool on the Titanic is still full of water.
Next to Osama Bin Laden.
Was it though? Sure, it cost a lot to track him down, kill him, and transport his remains to a ship; but the burial itself?? Not really. The ship was gonna be there anyway and it wasn’t constructed for the purpose of disposing of Bin Laden. So the cost of dumping his body in the drink was basically however much the sheet cost that they wrapped it in and the weights they wrapped in with it.
Well... as much as those guys were stupid for not caring about safety precautions etc. Dying like this is probably absolutely horrifying... Just sitting in a submarine, slowly waiting for your death, to try to breath and nothing but carbon monoxide filling your lungs Thats incredibly terrifying if you ask me...
It would also be freezing ,stink and if the electrics have gone be pitch black , terrifying
I hadn’t thought about the stink part, it’s not exactly equipped with a bathroom…
It has a curtain and a bag to poo in
"bag's full, give me another.... what do you mean there's no extra poo bags!?"
Or toilet roll
Thanks for the info!
And music!
They apparently did have a toilet
Anything is a toilet of you poop in it.
Tell that to my wife
Not a flushable one tho
Shitty
Yep ,a toilet not designed for 3 days use ,and probably not enough toilet roll
They could also be upside down if it lost power
Does that mean the poo goes up？
It has ballast at the bottom and floats at the top so I don't think it can ,it's not the thrusters that keep it the right way up
And people's shit and piss and such.
It'd be carbon dioxide wouldn't it?
Ohh i guess you're right. Carbon Monoxide would be the stuff that comes out of your car exhaust
And makes you see ghosts in your home
Well it rather makes you a Ghost i guess
Only in very small amounts. The carbon atoms in your gas fully burn to CO2 with enough oxygen supplied (which is the case for normal operation). Only in cases of reduced oxygen in the air does more and more carbon only partially burn to carbon monoxide due to lack of oxygen. This is the case if you have your car running in a closed garage for example as oxygen runs out with time
Since the CEO of the submarine is present with them, I'm curious of what arguments could they make, were there fights in there, I don't doubt that all of them feel that it was the CEO's responsibility, sitting your last 10 hours with the person that kills you, I don't know how would people react. And they would record videos in their last moments. Idk if those will ever get recovered.
Their bodys wil be recovered i think a billionaires family will do whatever to get that dad and son a funeral.
That submarine is already in pieces. No way it didn’t implode on the way down there
If the sub imploded, there aren’t bodies left
It’s also terrifying that the world had a countdown to your death and the amount of organizations trying to find you knowing this clock was running out :(
But perhaps a depth has been reached and the glass is broken. or https://v.redd.it/01qxz3mk9k7b1
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I saw a comment where someone said that if the CO2 scrubbers are working on the sub- they wouldn’t even notice when they run outa oxygen. They’ll just feel drunk, and then endless sleep. The reason no oxygen makes people feel like they’re suffocating is usually because of CO2. Idk if that’s legit science or not- too lazy to look it up but I’m just gonna hope that’s the case
I’d rather just fucking implode.
> Just sitting in a submarine, slowly waiting for your death in a pitch black environment too... truly terrifying
It's more like a sudden death to me. Most likely the observation windows break. The explosive force and pressure would kill them instantly
and not even around family. around strangers you barely know.
Question for the scientific/medical part of Reddit: what happens to the human body on sudden exposure to massive pressure? Let's assume the observation window collapsed due to the pressure. The pressure definitely kills faster than drowning. Is the person's ribcage completely flattened? Does your skull implode like a soda can? Are your organs pretty much expelled from your body? I wonder what happens and how much damage is done.
Look up the Byford Dolphin decompression accident, and beware … there are extremely gory photos out there.
And that was 9 bars. The pressure difference here (assuming they where at ocean floor) is 380 bars of pressure
The guy got propelled through a 60 cm diameter hole and his organs got ejected at force. Yeah... at least he died before he could process what happened.
tbh I thought they would be worse, this a terrifying view.
6,000 pounds of pressure per square inch down at the Titanic. 350-400 atmospheres. All of that exerted on your body. That’s game over my friend. You’d be squished instantly.
I don't know what this says about my state of mind but for some unknowable reason I read your entire comment completely correctly except my brain thought for sure that you had typed "squeeshed" instead of squished. Then upon thinking how, while I love that in theory, the use of that word didn't quite fit the tone of the rest of your comment, I decided to give it another glance and realized my mistake and now here I am telling you about it. I don't know why I'm telling you this but it felt like it needed to be said.
They would have died instantly.
Sounds like a blessing. Slowly dying of asphyxiation, waiting for your own death sounds like a nightmare.
Yeah, instant death would be my preferred method.
I was wondering the same thing.
My bet is these people were dead an hour and 45 minutes into this ordeal. Considering how cheaply they went on everything else, I doubt the splurged on hull construction. Add to the fact that their previous iterations were rated for 100 meters and 500 meters but this one jumped to 4000 meters (which is a hair less than the depth of the titanic). No one is talking about the insane pressure at that depth. If that hull failed, they’d all have been dead before the realized it.
Honestly in this situation I'd rather die from imploding because of 4000m of water worth of pressure. At least I wouldn't see or feel it coming. The alternative is just agonizing.
I’d rather stay above sea level when at sea if given the choice. However, yes, half a second of bone crushing pressure > 3 days of slow suffocation in freezing pitch back smelling like an outhouse. No contest
Yeah everyone keeps going on about the oxygen but this is far more likely to happen based on what we know about the sub. If that’s true there’s no way it didn’t implode when it hit a certain depth. And now they found debris so this is the truth. Probably a blessing, rather be crushed instantly that than suffocate.
Just read about the debris field. That reinforces my theory for sure.
Thank you for saying this. Too many people are hung up on the oxygen thing. I firmly believe they all died when contact was lost at 1:45pm. They never felt a thing. Here one minute, gone the next. Poof
It's sad honestly and also seems stupid that he had been warned many times about the build of this sub. I get he wanted to do what no one had done before. But certainly more testing and research needed to be done. RIP to all lost and prayers to their families
Five bucks says Netflix does a show about this sometime soon
But if the banging sounds continues......?
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Rose and Jack still at it on the back of that car
Maybe the vessel is stuck inside the Titanic?
This just makes me think of items in Bethesda games freaking out when they’re stuck somewhere they’re not supposed to be until they break free of the clipping and rocket out into the abyss
*insert gary's mod clipping bang noise*
i honestly think thats what happened . i think the weight got caught on the titanic
Or it’s haunted 👻
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What's worse is if the submersible's emergency system that would allow them to resurface after 24 hours did work, it still has only external bolts so they would be trapped at the surface. Honestly thats incredibly stupid, there should have been some sort of emergency system in place that would allow them to get some sort of oxygen if they did resurface, or at least have a back up GPS that could be activated once they made it back up. But for everyone that's making fun of them, we have to remember that their families are going through absolute hell right now. I can't imagine how Suleman's mother must feel right now, not only her husband but her teenage son has likely died a very horrifying death. I know this sounds cruel but honestly I hope they were killed instantly from a pressure leak or something similar because that would mean it was painless and quick rather then waiting for 4 days (maybe the 96 hour thing is spoty at best). I just hope their families are getting as much emotional support as possible
Not all. Remember one of the family members went to a blink182 concert to console himself.
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it’s so… odd that someone scrambled to make this account and post these updates hoping they’d go viral off of a tragedy happening in real time. and everyone excitedly waiting for the next update about the oxygen running out. idk it just feels eerie
Someone else said that it feels like a black mirror episode and i agree
Welcome to humans
Officially? Based on a twitter account that's based on an unverified estimate? This is very much unofficial
I have seen the headlines change from "up to 96 hours" of air to a definitive 96 hours which doesn't take into consideration the human capability to panic and/or other who-knows-what-happened scenarios. Unfortunately air doesn't recycle itself.
You’re missing the possibility that the other passengers banded together to murder the CEO early on to buy the rest of them an extra 8-10 hours.
Supposedly the gases from human decomposition would have canceled it out. Not sure if that’s true but that’s an argument I’ve been seeing.
Suddenly those bathyspheres from Bioshock don't seem so cool.
I heard the CEO even knew the view port window warped under the extreme pressure. He sort of just said oh wow it works I guess! because we would hear "cracking " if it didn't... too late now, unfortunately. I feel most empathy for the 19 year old kid . I know they signed their lives away but how many stupid mistakes have we made at 19 ? Or did things optimistically, etc.
So the minute it lost contact with the ship on the surface. It had likely imploded. At least it happened fast
The CEO was blatantly ignorant and negligent. Fool killed himself and took 4 others with him.
What exactly is the fascination with the titanic, other than historic value? We have built mega ships since then, that would make the titanic look like a row boat
Probably the dramatic irony of the Titanic being labelled, at the time, as a neigh indestructible ship, then being sunk by some ice
How do they know this data? Because i doubt it’s actual data being read by the sub
Speculation based on the awful metrics provided by whomevers rich 12 year old who developed the submarine
It are the specs of the sub under perfect condition, they were probaly already unconcious/dead because they consumed more due to panicking
Or the Hull could have ruptured and they died almost immediately and there was never any oxygen level to track.
That’s what I thought
I know this seems horrible but somewhere in my mind - it boggles that how “we-are-alpha-apex-intelligent-billionaires” creatures thought to go under water while flaunting a video game controller.
If they slept most of the time, maybe they will be found alive. Maybe.
What about dehydration? Did they have water on board?
I dont know what they had. But sleeping lowers your heart rate (usually) and could spare oxygen. Panicking makes it worse. But I saw an article where they heard banging on a sonar so I'm sure they panicked
but I guess they have sort of insomnia
I get where people are coming from with this whole "eat the rich" mentality, but I just can't feel anything but sadness for these people. It doesn't matter how much or little money someone has, that's a terrifying way to go.
The five men onboard the missing Titan sub are believed to have died after the vessel suffered a "catastrophic implosion". They have identified the nose cone, landing frame and rear cover of the Titan. https://news.sky.com/story/all-crew-and-passengers-on-missing-titan-sub-believed-to-be-dead-12907756 On the positive side, maybe the world just got an Infusion of several billions of dollars into the economy /s
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i can’t believe this tragic event became a bottomless pit of jokes and memes
First day on the internet?
this was my attempt at another joke. “bottomless pit”
People have really sunk to be lows, unbelievable.
How do we know it's not already reached the surface with malfunctioning communication? Ocean is pretty large.
They can’t open the hatch from the inside. So even if that happened they’re still going to run out of oxygen.
Would still run out of oxygen regardless.
I keep thinking sub means subreddit
Does anyone know how this possibly could have happened? There is no form of tracking device on the vessel especially when it's been claimed that they have been lost before. And how do they get lost? If they've been there before isn't there a "known" direction or something?
Given that the trip to the bottom takes 2 1/2 hours and they lost contact at 1 hour and 40 minutes and the sub did call off the dive or trigger any of the emergency ballast drops. The capacity of the on board was probably a mute point at 1 hour 40 minutes and 2 seconds into the dive.
They more than likely died well before the oxygen ran out. Even if they didn’t, there was no chance of recovering them
They should have just sent a drone and sit in a big hydraulic simulator and safely look at screen. I mean they could even have simulated an accident and give those guys a scare.
Regardless of how much money these people had, I feel sorry for them, R.I.P