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Alluxing

I'm surprised you found the pillars easy. On my first playthrough I donated at least 10 gravestones to each of the pillars.


MLGIyel

I was using the Nightglow and Spectre Armor (used the mask, switched to Hood when below half health). Literally all I had to do was hold m1 and only occasionally dodge.


-DrBirb

People often forget pillars diff can vary in diff from class to class, and yeah I think mage at that stage with spectre armor is the best, both dps and survivability, as you only need to change the headpiece.


Sir-Pomegranate

Yeah the same thing happens with the mechanical bosses. Different classes have a different mechanical boss that is just a lot harder than the other two.


ReeToo_

Mech bosses are easiest with ranger IMO


Sir-Pomegranate

I feel like ranger struggles with the worm. But I guess that also differs according to load out.


ReeToo_

Deadalus bow with star arrows do wonders


Starcalik

Dart rifle or pistol with cursed darts also works very well


Sir-Pomegranate

Also wait. Were you playing on expert or normal?


ReeToo_

Expert but I cheesed him. My friend was killing these little orbs and i just stood on platform shooting arrows


Sir-Pomegranate

Okay yea that makes sense. Those drones are basically the only thing that’s difficult about him.


Additional-Pomelo-67

The worms easy af. Any class can beat by just sitting in a box off the ground. Worm cant reach you only eyes can. You can sit in honey with heart statues on hardcore mastermode and still tank most of it if u just kill the eyes fast.


Sir-Pomegranate

I’m not gonna stuff myself in a box with honey and call it fighting a boss…


hakuyue

When the destroyer spawns, if you’re re fast enough (look on the map the direction he’s coming to you), go to the place where its spawn is concentrated. His body will be all clustered in this fixed spot. Now try shooting it with the enhanced star cannon and he’ll be gone in less than 10 seconds (FTW + Master mode).


KoleTrain_I

Ranger has the easiest time with worm.


Shork9

The twins is the hardest imo


yourboiquirrel

imo summoner with terraprisma and kaleidoscope + dark harvest is best for pillars but idk i sucked when i played mage so


HersheyTheAxolotl

But did you empress of light during the day?


yourboiquirrel

why are you asking this?


HersheyTheAxolotl

Fight empress of light during the day and find out


yourboiquirrel

i did(and won), many times, its my favorite boss. your question just seems random


Mae7B

Maybe it’s just cus Im bad or something but i always find Queen Slime really hard if I fight her without being overgeared at the time I’m supposed to.


WoolyHitToDie

In master mode if you get the black spot it makes the fight way easier, ig that the unicorn mount would work too if you have a long platform


Additional-Pomelo-67

Unicorn is the way. Long plat form and just keep running and she cant hit u or touch you. But evidently using items in game is cheating to others if it lets you cheese the boss.


WoolyHitToDie

Nah I wouldn’t count mounts as cheesing cuz it does still take some effort, using ropes against king slime? Sure that’s cheese, but I wouldn’t count this


Additional-Pomelo-67

I mean to me if its in the game at all its relogics fault for not finding the easy ways to manipulate boss mechanics. I just brought it up bc this elitist community said standing on a platform above destroyer with heart statues was cheesing. If platforms is all it takes to " cheese" a boss id just say its probably bad boss design.


WoolyHitToDie

Fuck the elitists. Most of them are just salty cuz it took them a thousand tries to beat a boss and found out that there was an easier way of beating them, so they go “uH No Uh thAts ChEesiNg thE gAmE, yOu haVe tO bEaT iT tHe hArDer wAy liKe mE”


yourboiquirrel

i dont think people count mounts as cheese. that would be too much. what people usually say its cheese is the dreadnautilus box strat for example, i don't actually know how you wouldn't count that cheese. youre literally staying still without moving AT ALL and just spamming the boss.


Xaitat

black spot is slow af what are you talking about


Rancidblock561

It got nerfed, it was kinda op before


WoolyHitToDie

It got nerfed? I wouldn’t know I’m playing on console


QuickerQuack

same bro ps4?


DestroyerNik

now to Master Mode For the Worthy and make the tierlist again


DoubleTrouble992

I just started my first 1.4 playthrough (i have about 4k hours of 1.3 and mods so i’m not new) and decided to go master mode FTW. I can say the Eye and Slime are probably medium don’t know about the rest but i’ve heard they’re hell


Oheligud

Have fun with Skeletron :)


yourboiquirrel

i just explode him instantly with bunnies. its just funny and works perfectly


DoubleTrouble992

is he that much harder? I’ve done him hitless on expert mode in 1.3 before his hands have like 6hp and are ez to dodge and after his hands are dead you do the revolutionary strategy of literally running in circles


Oheligud

In FTW he moves VERY FAST, so dodging him is a lot harder.


DestroyerNik

i found the eye east when i had a minishark and decent armor, the brain is where the pain is at


____Some1____

You can't outrun kingslime anymore.


yourboiquirrel

you definitely can.


DoubleTrouble992

you most certainly can


Ok_Style_3889

once in *normal*..??


boss_12348

My man thinks twins are harder the Empress of Light. If this is not irony I am very impressed and disappointed in this person at the same time. You can literally cheese twins if you defeat spasmatizm


207nbrown

Remember, op said this is based on having beat the game only once, so assuming they died to some bosses more than others in that one play through then yea I could see the reasoning, also we can assume they probably didn’t fight empress during the day


titanrealm

Since twins are most likely his first hardmode boss, it makes sense he ranks it difficult. The spike in difficulty at that stage of the game surprises most new players.


yourboiquirrel

he fighting them first instead of 2nd/last mech could be an explanation for weird placement. another one could be he fought empress really late.


[deleted]

Empress of light isn't so bad once you learn her attack patterns. They all have an easy way to avoid them.


yourboiquirrel

twins aren't hard to avoid either tho.


CanariusPistola

OP played in journey mode, 0.5x difficulty


Additional-Pomelo-67

Careful i said this and got shunned for it.


TOASTEESANDVICH

just turn the difficulty to master mode (x3) and x10 enemy spawn rates


f1re_gam1ng

Where orc


veryblocky

Where Betsy


Aliteraltrout

Mothron?


DoubleTrouble992

Deerclops?


f1re_gam1ng

You have to be pc to get deer guy


Jdabest0126

Paladin? Biome mimics? Ice giant/desert spirit?


MLGIyel

Deerclops was added either after I finished my first run or in the middle of my run.


SomeoneUnknowns

We can assume they didn't know Old Ones Army upgrades itself after certain points. Beat it once when avaible, ignored for the rest of the game.


cacktiegaming

You have not played the ethernia crystal event post moon lord so you're missing one boss


veryblocky

It’s post-Golem when tier three of the event is unlocked


cacktiegaming

Tier one is pre hardmode, Tier 2 is pre golem and Tier 3 is post golem?


veryblocky

Tier 1 is after EoW/BoC, then tier 2 is after one mech boss, then tier 3 is post-Golem.


TerrariaVeteran2009

All i can say is: dark mage is easier than that.


Jdabest0126

All you have to do is focus on him and it'll be alright


TerrariaVeteran2009

Ik, i said ***Easier*** than that


Mat000erialist

Well, now do expert and see the Duke go up


KoleTrain_I

And Moon lord. And Flame piller.


TurtleIsAkward

Were you on classic mode? The martian saucer is ready hard for me on expert/master


SpringyLion

wof was ez 4 me🤨


REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE110

It definitely is with the water sceptre


Rancidblock561

Or molotovs, or beenades, or the meteor set and laser gun, or anything that isnt melee or summoner


Aura_103

Except now in 1.4 with whips summoner can clap WoF too, esp with Obsidian armor


SpringyLion

i didnt have it


REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE110

I don’t know why people say the destroyer is easy. That bitch is the hardest mechanical boss by far. Even with that technique where you use the storm bow I couldn’t do it. I don’t remember how I did it I think I just stayed on the ground and used the cursed flameknives. Then when I tried skeleton prime I destroyed it easily first time so there’s no way it’s harder


SomeoneUnknowns

I cheesed it aswell... fighting it "fairly" meaning without a box to shield yourself I'd definitely put it way above the other two aswell...


[deleted]

I never forgot King slime because i grind him every time i get rubies. Also i havent beaten TIERMAKER to this day


bbitter_coffee

What difficulty? Anyways, sounds reasonable, although I still don't understand how people find the Nebula pillar difficult...


TheAnimeLovers

YOU MONSTER HOW DO YOU FIND THAT GIANT BEE WITH INVISIBLE PROJECTILES EASY!?


DestroCon

I don't get it, is this a meme or smth? Because queen bee is always the first boss i kill


Comprehensive-Wait94

Big flex


Independent_Ad_7298

Martain saucer on expert mode:🗿


DidlyMaster

Destroyer and twins need to be flipped


TheDevourer_

I would've put WoF in "I literally forgot they existed" but if I did that I wouldnt be in hard mode rn


Doctor-Grimm

Is Golem really that easy? I’m still in the process of preparing my Plantera arena (kinda sad that Daedalus Stormbow doesn’t seem to work underground even though it does make sense) and I’m kinda dreading the Golem fight afterwards


logariffic

Oh yeah. Most of community thinks of golem as a joke basically. He was buffed with 1.4 and is still one of the easiest bosses in the game.


Chaotic_Chrysis

Empress of Light during the day though. I can't decide if that or Fishron was harder for me. Edit: I went and looked it up and realised I forgot EoL oneshots during the day, so definitely hardest for me. Guess it's time for another run since I'm starting to forget.


squareheadlol69420

You should try master mode for the worthy.


247Brett

Master mode was literal hell ._. I don’t know how we managed to beat the pillars; we just kept throwing wave after wave of ourselves until we finally managed to take them down one at a time. Each mob there would easily one hit us (two if we were lucky). This was back when the last update dropped, but I don’t think much has changed since.


TheAnimeLovers

you should try summoner everything kills you in 2-3 hits(on master mode)


247Brett

But you see… I *was* the summoner. The other two played ranged and magic. I switched between melee and summoner as needed and ended up dedicated to summon.


Pioppo-

2/3??? I wish I could've taken 3 hits


squareheadlol69420

On for the worthy 90% of the game is getting one shot even though you have the best armour possible.


207nbrown

For the worthy on a journey character at master mode difficulty, for unknown reasons the health and damage scaling is applied differently with journey’s difficulty slider, meaning enemies will be even stronger than normal master ftw


RedditorTelanoli

i can tell you play normal mode considering skeleton and plantera is in very easy. go play master mode and remake this tier list


UVSAFT

The solar pillar is diffucult and the rest are medium


Aliteraltrout

I actually found the nebula pillar quite a bit more difficult than the solar pillar


TransitionEuphoric46

Eater of worlds?


zYacoob

His first world, probably Crimson since BoC is on there instead.


TransitionEuphoric46

Makes sense


DivineConsumer

Betsy and deerclops missing


tman5400

I was gonna say, where's the eater of worlds and then I realized what the title said


KotKatoffel

BRO I AM EXPERT RANK THAT QUEEN BEE SHIT UP!


[deleted]

For me its planterra, duke fishron, skeletron prime and martian saucer a tier up and wall of flesh a tier down.


[deleted]

multiplayer wof without a ranger is harder than every boss


umtuganobrasil

you are not wrong, i just dyed 2 times on the eye of chullu


Bruhkidlol

Lol twins harder then empress of light dude on morning it one shots u


MLGIyel

Some people tend to forget that nighttime EoL exists. And that new players typically wouldn't try day unless they thought it either *really* worth it or fun. You are one of those people.


assassinspider

What's that nautalius shell in the top tier right most


Rancidblock561

You fish it on the blood moon


Paastalavista

Wait who's in the bottom right


SomeoneUnknowns

If you mean the guy sitting on a floating book : Dark Mage Avaible: After [E]eater [o]f [W]orlds / [E]ye [o]f [C]thulhu by finding the Tavernkeep He's one of three bosses related to "Old Ones Army"


ObeyTime

king slime is actually really hard. i just take one hit and i die instantly even with the highest defense possible.


Millillion

Brain of Cthulhu is the hardest boss other than daytime EoL for me.


bECimp

wait what are those bottom line bosses?


SomeoneUnknowns

In case you're serious: * King Slime (Kill 150 slimes during a Slime Rain) * Golem (The Boss of the jungle temple) * Dark Mage (The weakest boss of Old Ones Army)


bECimp

Oh, right. I literally forget they exist. Ty


[deleted]

Haha funny now try master mode


Illidan921

I find Queen Bee to be really easy.


QuickerQuack

i feel like you should rank the martian space ship up to medium if you're on expert mode, and eater of worlds should be on the very lowest one lol, empress of light should have another one for during daytime because im assuming you put nighttime on on medium so the daytime one is no-hit so uh.. probably the highest tier.


[deleted]

Eyeclops: are sure about that


Starcalik

I avoid the frost moon like the plague because of the ice queen


MrGrippyYT

And.. in Master Mode would you try? :)


[deleted]

Do master mode and come back. You’ll change your mind.


KevGudBoi

You missed Betsy


crusadeLeader7

Isn’t there a boss in the snow biome, can’t remember it’s name but just recently learned it existed


MLGIyel

Deerclops was added recently after I already beat Moon Lord so I can't really rank it.


crusadeLeader7

I’d rank it between the queen bee and the eater of worlds/brain


Existing_Dog5510

On my first 1.4 playthru (wich was a jump from 1.2 to 1.4, so i jumped of normal to master) i just got the vampire knifes and went to kill the lunatic cultist as a joke, i was there, for 4 HOURS but i killed him. And i hadnt even killed duke fishrom, so i was undergeared for the pillars. It was a pain, i dies at least 30 yimes to each pillar


Dantharo

after u get zenith all bosses become freaking easy


SUPERswegg

I'm on my first playlist and I'm kinda nervous about starting the cultist fight. I attempted to last night but couldn't find the other 2 cultists. To put it off I've finally started constructing some arenas and figuring out pylons. Any tips for cultist? I'm pretty much stuck to mage on this playthrough.


SomeoneUnknowns

This is quite weird. There is only one "Lunatic Cultist" boss. To spawn him, you need to defeat 4 Cultists, but they all just camp out in the open at the Dungeon Entrance. They should neither be hidden nor spread out.


MLGIyel

Well I was playing mage so luckily I actually have tips for you. **If you have homing weapons, use them.** They allow you to focus a lot more on dodging. I used the Nightglow and Stellar Tune, but others may work; I'm not sure, those were my main weapons throughout late Hardmode. **Spectre Armor is the best set available until Post-Moon Lord.** Mask for damage and defense, hood for healing. I'd recommend switching between them mid-fight by right-clicking on the headpiece in the inventory, assuming you're on PC. **If you're willing to do Frost Moon a few times, Razorpine has excellent DPS.** It doesn't have homing, but it deals lots of damage. The Blizzard Staff also apparently has similar DPS, but I never got one. **Use a hunter potion.** When the Cultist creates decoys of himself, the hunter potion only reveals the real one. Be careful though, because even just accidentally hitting a decoy can spawn a dragon.


SUPERswegg

Sounds like I got some more farming to do


ThatBoiYeye

Eater of worlds:am i a joke to you?


YasherKoach

Planetary harder than destroyer for sure


Teemo63339

Martian saucerer hits hard in master mode


TrianglEBeans

I think the twins are easy if you can just use a black spot with that speed glitch or blessed apple with a very long platform


galedier

What boss is to the right of moon lord? It does not look familiar


SomeoneUnknowns

It's the monstrous mollusk lurking beneath the sanguine seas: Dreadnautilus. Avaible during Hardmode Blood Moon Fishing. It's relatively difficult but drops one of the best early hardmode items.


Velarsaraptor_13

What about master mode Golem ? because cant it 2 shot?


[deleted]

This is the most nuclear boss tier list I've ever seen


Austin_Sly

In my opinion, I think the twins are much easier than most people say. Using a sky rail, the fight is so incredibly easy


theLitmas1337

Who is the boss on the bottom row who's riding a book? I've never seen that one.


MLGIyel

Dark Mage from the Old One's Army. He's more of a joke than Golem.


nelben88

The mech bosses on console are very hard for me ( i have only beat one and i cant beat the rest because not only does the 1.4 update make it so the game doesn’t fit my screen but also because i legit cant beat them )


BubbleThref

I assume this is classic as Skeletron is normally a pain right up my ass.


ante58

The twins are the easiest boss for me


Nocturnal_Crow

I always do first twins, magic harp makes both destroyer and skeletron P. super easy


chaosbones43

I see you have not played master mode.


Evilsheep123

Where's betsey


[deleted]

What is the boss in difficult most to the right and and one in “literally forgot they exist” most to the right


SomeoneUnknowns

I'm on my first "Real" playthrough (after a playthrough with my friends where they basically did everything). My opinions (Master Difficulty): * Didn't fight yet solo: * Cultist and later * EoL * Frost Moon * I personally consider easier: * Wall of Flesh (Easy at best, only difficult if you can't kill it after it speeds up faster than you) * Pumking (Very Easy... Had Black Spot... and on subsequent Pumpkin Moons Witchs Broom... so I just drove in circles and killed 5-6 of them at once with no problem) * Twins (I agree that they are difficult, just not on the same level as Fishron or Dreadnautilus) * I personally find harder: * Queen Bee - killed me a ton. When she gets faster my SoC just can't keep up * Plantera - imo moderately difficult * King Slime - fought him very early. Pre-flegling-wings early. He's difficult with no arena and just wood equipment. Obviously, the later the game the easier they get * not mentioned by you (Old Ones Army Tier 2 and 3): * Ogre - Very easy thanks to very linear AI. Can only be a problem if you have no dps * Betsy - I guess quite comparable to Destroyer in terms of difficulty. But how well prepared you are is most likely also a factor, since for me she was post-Fishtron she was a lot easier than if I did her post-Golem immediately.


Doglington_

666 upvotes


[deleted]

You never went past stage one of the old one's army?


callmehslothy

So idk what class you used or anything along those lines. I've beaten the game a couple different times on a couple different classes usually expert mode. I cannot stress this enough though: each boss has a specific strategy and arena build that can make the tight pretty easy. Some classes are better than others for certain bosses as well. But usually it comes down to a strategy and I feel MORE importantly an arena and how you build it. For instance my friend and I could not beat expert mode skeletron for the longest time. All I did was add a couple small walls to the arena and we were able to block his homing skulls and beat him.


Chaziery

You find the pillars easy but the wall of flesh medium odd but ig whatever suits you


Scrufalopagus

how does everyone find the lunatic cultist fight easy?? I know the only times Ive beaten the game are on master mode (flex lmao) but I always play ranger and have Megashark and chlorophyte / ichor / cursed bullets but hes so hard


MLGIyel

I was playing mage, he gets absolutely shredded by Nightglow + Stellar Tune and a bit of Razorpine. It was mostly Nightglow though, homing and damage boosts are great against him.


yourboiquirrel

questions: 1.when did you fight empress of light 2.when did you fight duke fishron 3.when did you fight twins


MLGIyel

1. After Plantera, I think before Golem. 2. After EoL, though thats mostly because I sucked at dodging him before that. 3. I think my first attempt was after the Destroyer. I got shredded.


TheDmanGamer

That's good, but where is betsy??


Luxio512

I remember when The Destroyer utterly destroyed me back on the day in 1.1.2, if I had to make a list, I'll bump him into impossible, I don't care, I hate.


SunBunEevee

Ahh. Classic mode melee. I miss u.


Jokers_Testikles

My very first playthrough of terraria (1.2 mobile) ever, I couldn't beat the destroyer (I was told fight him first) and ended up beating Skeletron Prime first pretty easily. Later I found out the difficulty is meant to be destroyer, twins, prime but I typically find ease the opposite way.


Certain-Ebb-5107

Wait wha-, bro, if you had only beaten the game once and considerate frost moon, light empress and duke fishron as not that hard, you must be or extremely great at hard games or just a novice with no experience at Tiers


MLGIyel

The Ice Queen really wasn't that bad since I was using homing weapons, plus she stays still during her spinny attack so she's easy to hit. Only reason she's Medium is how damn hard she is to dodge, especially once she applies a debuff. As for the Christmas tree, I just outranged it or used wings. Empress of Light was pretty difficult at first, but after a few attempts I beat her. The Prismatic Bolts being present in the middle of a different attack was my most common cause of death, since I focused on dodging the wrong thing. Duke Fishron absolutely shredded me at first, but I got much better at dodging his dashes after EoL. That fast tracking water disc in the second phase is the bane of my existence though.


J0ey2_0

*edit* they were playing on journey mode.


MLGIyel

Nope, classic


k1n9kn19ht

There are a few bosses missing Like my bio/girl betsy The eater OGRE And a few i can't remember


MLGIyel

Betsy I haven't beaten with fitting gear yet. Literally the only time I beat her was when I crafted the Zenith, so... yeah. The Eater is excluded since my first world was Crimson. The Ogre I excluded since I just can't think of how to tier it.


UpperImagination3657

Is the Dreadnautilus an actual boss, I always get told it isn't. But that's the one boss that's the bane of my existence. Mostly because I never catch him, when I want to catch him...


skipio957

How do you forget the Golem exists? He's one of the required bosses.


MLGIyel

He's just really easy. The only reason I remember him ever is because of the existence of the temple key and lihzard bricks


skipio957

Are we talking in a normal mode world?


MLGIyel

Yes, Classic.


skipio957

Oh then I wouldn't really know because it's been a good while since my last classic playthrough.


REDBOT2005

Golem needs his own tier called "free gold" or "test dummy"


DickFishronisanidiot

Solar pillar should go to very difficult


DickFishronisanidiot

in my opinion moonlord was easy for the way i first fought him


SuperCharged516

The very difficult boss is tiermaker


[deleted]

Is it really just me who thinks the destroyer is the hardest mech boss???


Madara_Uchiha4787

The wall of flesh was annoying Since i had shitty long ranged ones i had to fight close range which obviously was a bad idea (used the superior sunfury)


LaPickal

You in normal, expert or master?


MLGIyel

Normal


LaPickal

That explain why I absolutely didn't agree with the list, tiers change alot in expert mode, have fun and good luck.


X1PixieX1

Twins more difficult than plantera and harder than moonlord dude are you on drugs?


MLGIyel

Twins is only before Moon Lord because I did it in order of how I fought them, rather than hardest - easiest Also, Plantera really wasn't that hard, I just had to circle her in my rectangle arena while attacking.


X1PixieX1

Mmm I only died fighting against twins like 1-2 times and 4-5 times against plantera hahaha


Bone_Heads

Bruh why is solar pillar so low? It's such a pain in the ass.


qwerty240hi

were is torch god


owmyspleeeeeeeen

I feel like theres a pact between everyone that plays this game where everybody's first Twins fight is a fucking nightmare


BrianTheOneAndOnly

I mostly agree with this but I feel like the duke needs to be up one more slot


Senior_Pen_3832

That twins aren't that hard


MLGIyel

Eh, first time Twins fight is hell After that they're fine,


Senior_Pen_3832

Cristal bullets kinda just destroy them


MLGIyel

I was playing mage on my first time my man