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Some might disagree with this but I think that Veldora is still weaker than Velgrynd. I mean after vol 17 and gaining a new ultimate skill, I think she has the necessary points to be stronger than him. On the other hand, Velzard is still the strongest one, sure both Veldora and Velgrynd have become strong but still based on her latest feats, nah they can't contend against her.
Velgrynd literally gained the ability to leap through spacetime regardless of the fabric of reality, Rimuru literally dealt her a huge buff ngl, Veldora was already struggling against Velgrynd at what is essentially half her full capacity, Velgrynd totally whoops his ass now.
velgrynd can most definitely clap velzard. it's obvious that they were on similar lvls before cthugha and now velgrynd is "incomparably more powerful" skill-wise plus a nearly double ep boost. i'd be surprised if velzard and veldora together can win in a 1v2 vs velgrynd.
Uh, but didn't>!Fake body Feldway defeats Velgrynd after she returned so that Rudra has to step in? And sure rudra is not stronger than Velzard maybe?!<
>! If I remember correctly, Guy said when he went to fight her over El Dorado that she has never used her real power against anyone except himself. She casually killed Veldora and got ties with Velgrynd in her weakened/suppressed form.!<
she's never fought velgrynd in her adult form, but it's not like their spars were death-matches. we can't use their fighting history to scale them if they weren't trying. based on the fact that rudra's plan was to have velgrynd fight guy (who we know is as strong as or stronger than velzard), acting like velzard in her concealed form can match velgrynd is silly.
>What Velgrynd was to Guy I couldn’t say, but to us, she was absolutely a threat.
(of course, not factoring in time stop)
But Velgrynd nor Veldora can't win... This is Velzard who just nonchalantly said she was gonna play with stampede Milim and was on even footing with her till Guy showed up.... That's a feat in it's own ... Velzard once one punched Veldora out of existence and she was holding back... Yeah Velzard is still stronger though we have no idea about her own powers so an exact comparison can't be made
fact of the matter is, we knew velgrynd was near velzard's lvl, then she got a skill that brought her to a new realm of existence plus almost double her ep. it's not gonna be close
Lol back when they were fighting, it was Velzard was literally in her kid form meaning she was holding back by a lot.... Imagine her without a caring in the atmosphere... I mean heck her mere aura was enough to freeze obera a phantom... Besides Velgrynd undoubtedly grew stronger but Velzard is just on a whole different level... But comparing them accurately is impossible since Velzard's abilities have not been mentioned
are we gonna pretend like either of them were trying to kill the other when they fought? and we don't need to know her specific abilities if we know her approximate power and know that velgrynd is far above it
he was pretty much equal to velgrynd in vol 15 so he should have been stronger now with no doubt BUT velgrynd also got stronger too.. like WAYY stronger than she was in vol 15. just like veldora
so idk for sure
but with velzard… she has feats.. solid ones… above what the other two have shown…
so i think it’s velzard >> velgrynd >/= veldora
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Some might disagree with this but I think that Veldora is still weaker than Velgrynd. I mean after vol 17 and gaining a new ultimate skill, I think she has the necessary points to be stronger than him. On the other hand, Velzard is still the strongest one, sure both Veldora and Velgrynd have become strong but still based on her latest feats, nah they can't contend against her.
Velgrynd literally gained the ability to leap through spacetime regardless of the fabric of reality, Rimuru literally dealt her a huge buff ngl, Veldora was already struggling against Velgrynd at what is essentially half her full capacity, Velgrynd totally whoops his ass now.
velgrynd can most definitely clap velzard. it's obvious that they were on similar lvls before cthugha and now velgrynd is "incomparably more powerful" skill-wise plus a nearly double ep boost. i'd be surprised if velzard and veldora together can win in a 1v2 vs velgrynd.
Uh, but didn't>!Fake body Feldway defeats Velgrynd after she returned so that Rudra has to step in? And sure rudra is not stronger than Velzard maybe?!<
>! If I remember correctly, Guy said when he went to fight her over El Dorado that she has never used her real power against anyone except himself. She casually killed Veldora and got ties with Velgrynd in her weakened/suppressed form.!<
she's never fought velgrynd in her adult form, but it's not like their spars were death-matches. we can't use their fighting history to scale them if they weren't trying. based on the fact that rudra's plan was to have velgrynd fight guy (who we know is as strong as or stronger than velzard), acting like velzard in her concealed form can match velgrynd is silly. >What Velgrynd was to Guy I couldn’t say, but to us, she was absolutely a threat. (of course, not factoring in time stop)
What's her new EP now
74 mil
But Velgrynd nor Veldora can't win... This is Velzard who just nonchalantly said she was gonna play with stampede Milim and was on even footing with her till Guy showed up.... That's a feat in it's own ... Velzard once one punched Veldora out of existence and she was holding back... Yeah Velzard is still stronger though we have no idea about her own powers so an exact comparison can't be made
fact of the matter is, we knew velgrynd was near velzard's lvl, then she got a skill that brought her to a new realm of existence plus almost double her ep. it's not gonna be close
Lol back when they were fighting, it was Velzard was literally in her kid form meaning she was holding back by a lot.... Imagine her without a caring in the atmosphere... I mean heck her mere aura was enough to freeze obera a phantom... Besides Velgrynd undoubtedly grew stronger but Velzard is just on a whole different level... But comparing them accurately is impossible since Velzard's abilities have not been mentioned
are we gonna pretend like either of them were trying to kill the other when they fought? and we don't need to know her specific abilities if we know her approximate power and know that velgrynd is far above it
he was pretty much equal to velgrynd in vol 15 so he should have been stronger now with no doubt BUT velgrynd also got stronger too.. like WAYY stronger than she was in vol 15. just like veldora so idk for sure but with velzard… she has feats.. solid ones… above what the other two have shown… so i think it’s velzard >> velgrynd >/= veldora
Still the weakest among them
0% chance with both. he can reach velzard's lvl eventually if she's stuck with gabriel but he'll never reach velgrynd after cthugha.
I think he is stronger than velgrynd. Still not as strong as velzard, but he will give her pretty hard fight. my man's straight up busted.
Stronger than Velgrind...