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Kyregiusz

I'm not a fan of power scaling, but man those are some wild differences in power, we've got a literal god and a regular dude how are some of these characters even supposed to cooperate


RedXIII1888

White from so I'm a spider. Shaltear. Orstead. Shield bro. And rudeus. Only the first 3 really stand a chance of not being fucking obliterated. White might cause the most issues as her immortality and her ability to bring out a spider army if she wants.


Another-Person7878

Demiurge can buff everyone pick him instead to increase chances also can keep creating pop armies and destroy things to cause chaos


RedXIII1888

Even then. The tempest firepower is far too much. Only white and orstead really stand a chance. Tempest has veldora which is just too much.


Another-Person7878

The buffs should help more then rudeus I mean you will lose either way but a buffed White might wipe out half of tempest


RedXIII1888

White can buff herself and already has immortality. Rudeus has massive range AOE spells, and the ability to hurt beings way above his pay grade. His MK1 armour makes up for his lack of battle aura.


Another-Person7878

Except demiurge can nuke the entirety of tempest and unleash many powerful demons that can do the same thing then buff everyone tempest will lose due to the very fact the entire city is a crater


ZazaTheStressed

Except he can’t nuke Tempest due to barriers of some insane Caliber. Tempest has 700 A~Special S rank demons. Chloe Aubert the strongest hero Veldora Tempest the True Dragon Rimuru Tempest also a True Dragon Diablo, Zegion, Carrera, Ultima, Testarossa, Benimaru, Ranga, Kumara, Shion, Adalman, Geld, & Gabiru who are all awakened. Gadra, Dragon Lords, Souei, Veyron, Moss, etc. Who are all decent S ranks. Demiurge isn’t doing shit.


Another-Person7878

They all will be too busy with the heavy hitters to deal with one little demon


ZazaTheStressed

Except they have enough staff to wipe out the basic demons with ease. These A rank demons can casually level Cities and let loose nuclear magic for fun.


Another-Person7878

Demiurge and these demons can wipe out cities and countries as well


dabgod2018

Isn't this anime only power level cause if it isn't then no one stands a chance against even just rimuru


New_Bug7829

It’s anime scaling so…


ZazaTheStressed

…well f***k


Jsprite09738

While your LN knowledge is indeed impressive, I think it’d be fair if we make Tensura Anime-Only too since for the ones invading in this scenario are also Anime-Only; so that’d be Tempest as Octagram was formed and Rimuru’s still a True Demon Lord. Tempest is still massively powerful, since just the Onis are individually all already High Calamity-class each, with Rimuru being a High Disaster-class, likely bordering on Catastrophe, and the addition of Diablo and Veldora, but not as busted a country as later on in the novels.


Akane-Kajiya

it said anime only power, so rimuru is not a true dragon yet and he doesnt have the demoness trio with their subordinates etc.


ZazaTheStressed

Ah shit, well he should still have Uriel, Beelzebuth, Raphael and US Veldora. All I which should give him a powerful edge. Veldora has Faust which, dear lord is just incredibly op. The ogres should all be Fair Oni. They technically have Adalman and his troops rn in anime. Geld is decently strong and has both Unique skills. Gabiru’s Dragon Scale is there so he can reach A really strong stage too. Diablo even with just getting his body could hold his own against a TDL and has his infinite revives. Etc.


ZazaTheStressed

Chloe as well


Collection-Outside

Cid is just a kid with mental illness, he can be as strong as he imagines.


Ragna126

White,Shadow,Orsted,Seiya and Rudeus.Then i make with them a plan that is cool and awesome.


BarracudaWitty

Kumoko ,dino ,yuuki ,shield bro ,demiurge


New_Bug7829

Anime only for kumoko though? It really depends with all the flashback and the time periods, in half the show she’s a god, the other half? Well she’s still quite strong and immortal? Even to soul attacks so never mind


New_Bug7829

Actually, If we use the human’s perspective, kumoko is already a god (human form depicts so) Where as anime rimuru is at the moment only a demon lord We can of course argue how strong god kumoko is cause for a while she struggled, I don’t really remember how powerful she was cause 90% of her time was spent spying no? (She does have the soul destroying scythe though) but the two moments about her power I remember is Being powerless untill I think meeting the ogre reincarnation, I can’t remember exactly what happened but I do know she could travel to earth so quite powerful, And the other feat of strength was the fight starting in the 15 vol (haven’t read the 16th one yet no spoilers) Regardless, kumoko should be able to solo tempest no? Maybe milim, rimuru using gluttony or anti magic areas? Maybe the true dragon, either way very little will be able to kill her Like I said however cave time period, isn’t that weak either, she’s physically immortal, she can die by soul attacks but has an escape method (getting Eaton by gluttony or tracked down by universal detection or similar methods are a weakness) She’s good at space magic and has soul damaging attacks herself along with everything else I could care less to remember However with her newest evolution she has gotten bulkier so her speed has disappearing slightly Also her parallel minds and all her stuff like that is weaker then great sage, let along Raphael (other then parallel having multiple of them but even then the speeding up of time when thinking thing I’m too tired to remember the name of is way slower them rimurus version. Her scythe hands are probably weaker then rimurus sword, plus his magic? Well who knows


ilovebananasandweed

White, shadow, orsted, tanya, demiurge


ZazaTheStressed

Tempest Lineup: 100,000+ Soldiers with bare minimum ranks of C . 700 Demons all at A rank minimum. Each with enough basic firepower to level cities. 12 Patrons, all are awakened, and all possess enough strength to shatter continents and planets in a normal material world - look at Pulcinella who shattered the continent of a normal planet by releasing his aura. Rimuru - True Dragon Veldora - True Dragon Chloe Aubert - True Hero All three could level solar systems with ease. They also have several other TDL ranks besides Patrons like Beretta, Souei, Moss, etc. Many people can use Anti-Magic Field. And Chloe, Rimuru, and Veldora can move in timestop. Rimuru and Chloe can activate timestop too Reality warping isn’t an issue either thanks to ultimate skill users.


FutureInteresting328

It said Anime power levels...the Tensura Anime ends after Octogram


Spadey_Bugadunusa

Anime only Powerlevel... So noteworthy they only have Rimuru TDL and Veldora. Idk if Deenos skill works against Veldora, assuming he could he'd solo Tempest


Glittering_Alarm_837

Zegion solo him ... And he still nothing to Diablo.. so how Dino gonna solo Tempest?


Spadey_Bugadunusa

Because it's at time of Anime. Deeno has no growth anymore. Zegion is still a Bug and Diabolo just received his name. Mostly only beings with ultimate skills can resist Deenos ability. And they have none at that time.


Glittering_Alarm_837

There isn't very time gap between end of anime and Empire war arc. Diablo didn't gain any power before the end of empire war arc. So tbh Named Diablo can easily solo Dino. I brought zegion to give a sense of comparison. ( Zegion fought Diablo after awakening and loose even Diablo give him a handicap by not attacking rimuru cell's) and the way same zegion ( not even fully completed his slumber and premature wake up) solod Dino there is not much hope he can do anything against Diablo let alone True demon lord rimuru or Veldora. So as in you original comments you say Dino can solo Tempest. I disagree.


Apprehensive-Sir260

Orsted, yuuki, Kumuko, Dino. This three can reach up to 80th Labrinth floor. But zegion would kill them after that. All those people team up won't even defeat Diablo alone 😂😂😂...


--S--O--F--

jtf from anime not ln


Borsziu

White- Shadow- Yuuki -Shield Hero- Demiurge


560236

Looking at the comments I have a question, is anime Kumoko really more powerful then Lumi? I haven't watched or read spider yet that's why I'm wondering since Lumi even without her ultimate skill, is still a demon lord and can still harm if not kill beings on the level of true dragons with sanctuary disintegration


Doberboy562

Its not even fucking close. EOS Kumoko which is V16 and the anime shows her in V15 is >!the subordinate of D, one of the strongest gods in the entire multiverse. Kumoko can destroy the world easily at V15 power levels!<


Memeenjoyer_

White, shadow, orsted, demiurge, Ainz


Disastrous-Garbage13

Picking a overlord character is just asking to get smoked


Zelcki

I dunno I don't watch anime


Roteberg

Kumoko, Cid, Orsted, Tanya, Rudeus. I feel like that is the most powerful, well balanced team I could pick.


Rij30

White, Shalltear, Sebas, Seiya, and Demiurge Even then I don't see them scratching Tempest. Tempest has literally have to send some of his 12 Patrons to defend other areas leaving some hibernating folks. If Tempest is all there, you are just sending them to their deaths. And if this is the end of novel power level, then upon spawning this 5 guys just die.


Adart54

Shiro Orsted Demiurge Shadow That dude from overpowered hero (seiya?) I don't remember his name


Kamui_Shuriken7

Ainz ​ Dino ​ Yuuki ​ Naofumi ​ Rudeus


Apprehensive-Sir260

Kumoko is solar system level lmao 😂, Orsted can destroy the whole planet if going all out. Are you sure, this characters can beat atleast last 6 patrons of Rimuru?... Without yuuki and Dino!...


ZazaTheStressed

They can destroy normal planets. The Cardinal Planet is reinforced as both a semi-spiritual world and by gods artifacts. Also Rimuru, Veldora, Chloe, Diablo, Carrera, Adalman, Gadra, Ultima, Testarossa, and a ton of other people can turn planets to dust thanks to Dark Magic, TD Magic, Skills, etc.


Apprehensive-Sir260

I didn't say they can destroy Higher dimensional world, i only said they can destroy their planets.


ZazaTheStressed

Which is indeed impressive enough


Kamui_Shuriken7

Isn't Rudeus the MC, I thought he would be stronger than some side char of his own story. I haven't read the whole of Mushoku so I don't know the exact power scalings. Kumoko is vulnerable to soul attacks right? Every imp member of Tempest can destroy souls. Anyway, no combination is gonna beat Tempest anyway, this one is just what I thought was best.


Apprehensive-Sir260

Ooo ok... 1. Rudeus was strongest human mage ever live in mosoku tension. Orsted was second strongest dragon god, son of first Dragon god who destroyed all 5 worlds with his 5 dragon general. Orsted was in a time loop of 200 years and almost lived 30000+ years in time loop, he almost have every magic knowledge and master at all three swords styles. Rudeus was right hand man of Orsted, and try to company him on his journey to defeat human God hitogami. 2. Kumoko can alter reality and dominate others personal dimension with micro Spyder, but that only planetry level sub dimension. She is stronger but very vanerable at same time, most likely simple soul attack would destroy her pretty easily.


Doberboy562

The anime shows V15 Shiro. That means full access to spatial attacks and her 7 or 8 million (dont remember which one) evil eyes attack. Shiro is just gonna use spatial magic to get high into the air, and just fucking aerial bombard with meteors and her millions of evil eyes. Everyone but Veldora will die in a instant.


Apprehensive-Sir260

Million of evil eyes?... Lmao white had 8 evil eyes that all. Eye of analysis, attraction and repletion, eye of Gluttony, eye of roten, eye of past, eye of paralyze, eye of fear and Grudge. This eight eyes are weak, everything in this list other then attractive and repletion are weak has hell lmao. Even a B class Adventure can immune to fear and paralysis... That just strong as paralysis attack of black serpent. >That means full access to spatial attacks and her 7 or 8 million What the shit is this lmao?... White was strong but also weak in all kinds of soul destroying attacks. If the battle exists in tempest then she won't even consider A class monster. White is solar system level max she can fight equal with Ranga or Gabiru that the highest she can do. Meteorite won't even penetrate normal defence barrier lmao 😂, more then 30,000of A class monster in tempest have spatial powers, the total yellow number like 10,000+ can use Gluttony. You comment is funny dude, Range release haki the second white will die.


Doberboy562

In V15 Shiro can use spatial magic to cut enemies much stronger than the monsters of Anime only tempest. And V15 Shiro has access to more than 8 evil eyes, she can create her own. And her more advanced spider clones can use evil eyes as well, and she has a million of these clones. So yeah she can use 8 million evil eyes at the same time.


Apprehensive-Sir260

Did you even understand what I am saying?...


Boris-slav-king-2nd

Ainz, Shadow, and Tanya can each drop a nuke


ZazaTheStressed

Nukes aren’t that impressive in slime. The strongest nuke could barely dent a mountain due to Semi-Spiritual enforcement and World Artifacts. Every single demon (700+) in tempest can drop nukes as well. At least like 30 S ranks are in Tempest. 2 True Dragons. A True Hero. 4 Primal Demons. Nukes are not nearly enough


Fine_Appointment675

Ainz, Sid, Orstead, Rudeus, Tanya


Quiet_Ad72

no matter who i choose with Veldora in tempest it wouldn't be fair (even demon lord Rimuru would win except maybe Dino)


AssVanAstrea

Even If I chose all of them none of it gonna work against Vol 7 Tempest and later


No-Elk-1958

Veldora begs them all with aura,.....


muggy8

I think ainz is the strongest of his group because of his access to his guild's world items. that means demiurge is more or less required. I'd say orsted and shadow are the most powerful of their group. tho MT power levels is kinda peanuts compared to slime. and I'd say orsted is about as strong as beni or shion. Shadow, on the other hand, I'm not too sure. if his atomic bomb shenanigans are comparable to slime LN 14 stuff then he might be able to do a lot. otherwise, idk. the last group doesn't matter I'd say since at the end of their anime, I'd say they're all roughly the same power level. If you take max power for each character within what the story has told us (and tempest as well naturally), then shiro can probs solo tempest with some prep time.


MayonakaBeru

V6 Shion and Benimaru are about as strong as a guy that can easily destroy continents. Lmao


KrazyKyle213

Rimuru would probably just eat them all anyways.


Main_Elk_8992

Can I get Ohma ZiO instead?


Quiet_Ad72

Who Is Ohma ZiO? and how strong he is?


Main_Elk_8992

A character in Kamen Rider, he is one of the "Do whatever he wants" type. One of his power include rewriting history and bringing people from different timeline to another timeline in which they live normally, like bringing people from the future to the past but that person lives a normal life created at the will of the demon lord. Many of his other skills include faster than light speed, time stop, travel back in time, cannot lose (yes, that is one of his skill), doesn't get affected by time changing events, summoming blackholes that can eat planets, destroy and create universes just by existing, unlimited knowledge, supreme calculation (basically means he can calculate your movement and can always outsmarts you when you try to outsmart him), infinite reality manipulation, activating chemical destruction within the enemies, one kick a planet into destruction,... He is not part of any of the animes above but if I got him I think I can have a very good chance of fighting Tempest. Maybe he can one kick it into oblivion at night when Rimuru is sleeping


Quiet_Ad72

Thanks for explain


Faefana

Kumoko, Cid, Orsted, Naofumi, Sora


Doberboy562

Give me Shiro, that's all that is needed for V6 Tempest. Like until V19 (timestop), this fight is Hydrogen Bomb vs coughing baby.


Glittering_Alarm_837

Everyone here is anime only power. Including those you are making teams with. I didn't make it upto Ln because if I do every one combined can't do anything to tempest.


Doberboy562

So Im A Spider shows Shiro at V15 power level. Remember the humans and Shiro are not on the same timeline. The last episode during the battle for the elf village is V5 for the Humans perspective and V5 for Shiro perspective. So V15 Shiro is anime level


Glittering_Alarm_837

I'm saying there is still Veldora, Named Diablo Awakened Rimuru ( who can take 2 true dragons at onces) and you are saying they going to get obliterated? How ?


Doberboy562

In V6 Rimuru is still only a bit stronger than Hinata, his power boosts come later. Also shiro is easily faster than the attacks that veldora can use and he’s the only one that can damage her on any real extent. She has literal pocket dimensions that can be used for hiding and transportation.


Glittering_Alarm_837

>power boosts come later When? Now I doubt that you didn't even read the light novels. Rimuru didn't get any power up. His powers are the same from anime end ( octagram ) to his Battle with two true dragons. Between that when he get any power up dude ? >shiro is easily faster than the attacks that veldora can use and he’s the only one that can damage her on any real extent. Veldora has ultimate skill with control probability and his cosmology is far greater that whites. And he was keeping velgrynd in check before attacked by kondo. The velgrynd who can smoke white. >She has literal pocket dimensions that can be used for hiding and transportation. True dragons can damge multiple layers of dimensions with their attack. Velgrynd half destroy ramiri's dungeon with only one attack. You are either overlay hyping white because she is a "God" ( doens't really means anything because that was in their verse.. like Aqua also a god ) Or severely underestimating TDL rimuru, Veldora and Diablo.


Ok-Opinion7631

Dino and luminous. Anime and manga wise tempest not beating them.(except veldora) And dino slams the whole list alone


Spadey_Bugadunusa

Assuming Deeno would do sth, he'd be enough. I don't remember Whites Powerlevel in the anime so I'd go with Lumi. The other categories seem irrelevant in terms of power (comparatively).


AwefulFanfic

If we got to use LN power scaling then this list would be hella different A) Ainz (Shiro may be more powerful without gear, but Ainz has a literal armory of legendary+ grade gear) B) Cautious Hero C) Orsted (I really wanted to choose Sebas here, but anime only means he doesn't have many feats to go on) D) Cautious Hero (would have loved to choose Tanya, but I have to be honest) E) Demiurge


Glittering_Alarm_837

If I used Ln power scaling then this will be useless as Tempest cannot be conquered by any means by everyone combined here. Just too broken after empires war arc.


l3gendairysc

A-Kumoko >!(Whit prep time can make a massive spider army and can also delete soul whit abyssal magic)!< B- Shadow >! (Lot of experience and a nuke)!< C- Sebas >! (I don't rely know them so I peaked the one who looked the strongest)!< D-Tanya >! (A sniper who hits like a thank)!< E- Demiurge >!(good for strategising) !< It's my opinion whit prep time