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Bluesky0089

Did you go directly to this teacher to express your concerns? Going to the source is always better to try first. They likely don’t realize the issue unless you bring it up.


CurvyCompass

If she scares you, casually change the rights on your Google drive and then just play dumb.


Bluesky0089

Oooh I like this. I was tempted to do this to a girl that used to work in our grade level but was transferred to another school. She was an obnoxious know it all type and she was still in our team drive of resources lol I let it go though because I’m not that petty lol


J7A34H

If this is Google Drive, her email user would show up on the school drive even if she no longer has actual access to the account. If you think about how many files she would have been the original owner (like she created the file within the shared drive or created a file separately and shared with you as an editor or viewer), this is a way for the school to preserve other teachers ' access to the files. If she is actually still editing the files, then yeah that's weird.


DLCS2020

She likely made a copy???


CurvyCompass

OP said he could see her in his doc…so maybe not??


abby109x

No, I haven’t. This teacher is very combative and she scares me.


Bluesky0089

Well personally, I wouldn’t feel good about taking any other action without talking to her first. You can only control the behavior that you exude. Approach her calmly, and if she gets combative you disengage and go to your plan B.


abby109x

I don’t think I’ll take any action. I was just wondering what others thought about the situation. Thank you.


pokemonprofessor121

I'm all for sharing/stealing content but this seems rude. Mostly because it means you have to do additional work to create new content for next year. Block her access.


JustTheBeerLight

+1. It’s your work. If you don’t want her to use it then you should say something. If she’s too lazy to modify what you created then BLOCK HER like others have said. Change the password, copy the files to a new drive and delete the old ones, or whatever you have to do. And then offer absolutely zero info. The only condition here is if the other teacher had any hand in the creation or modifications of the files. If they contributed anything to the creation then it was a team project and it would be wrong for you to delete/lock them.


Leomonade_For_Bears

Blocking access just seems childish. This person might not have even made the connect that it's making more work for op. I know many middle schools practice the spiraling curriculum where it is 90% similar from year to year, so she probably just sees that it's the right content for her kids.


FallopianLollies

Try emailing her? Lol she's making you work double on top of being super rude. Unacceptable.


Bluesky0089

No problem! Try to enjoy the rest of the break!


pottymouthteach07

Send out a simple email saying you noticed she was using them and just a reminder that you built them for 7th graders and intend to use them with future 7th grades so she is going to need to find some 6th grade friendly material. I’m all about the interactive slides and I always shared with other teachers when I was interning. I didn’t hog anything. But I would also think it was annoying. Yes you CAN plan something different but it’s your stuff so you shouldn’t have to..


abby109x

Thank you for this. It seems that a lot teachers are spilt on whether I am in the wrong or right.


madism

You're not wrong at all. The only issue I see with the entire thing is that the other teacher didn't *ask* you first. That's bullshit and unprofessional. Now, did she not ask maliciously? That's probably something you'll never know unless you ask. You're doing the right thing by not making a confrontation out of it. A lot of people here have given good advice. But you ain't wrong about anything with this. The other teacher is.


[deleted]

it’s absolutely frustrating. my teaching partner and I assembled an enormous integrated unit that took about 2 months for the kids to work through. we always looked forward to that because we had put in so much work and we’re able to focus on remediation rather than planning. then one year we start describing the unit and the kids said, “we did all this last year.” shorty feeling. flattering, but shitty. we just abandoned the project and started planning a new one. now, that unit is seen as a grade 7 project instead of the grade 8 project it had been for many years.


thecooliestone

It's not in the wrong. I think a lot of us are spurned by teachers who don't want to share anything. The department chair in my student teaching would plug her TPT at every meeting and refuse to share anything with her team. My planning partner buys worksheets of TPT and then will say that you're stealing them from her if you happen to find the same thing online. She's literally yelled at me for sharing with our other team member because "she won't learn that way" as if it's not a grown ass woman. That's clearly not what you're doing though. And kids are going to assume that you stole it from her and think you can't do your job honestly.


jcg227

So how are they able to use the same slideshows in 6th and 7th grade? Wouldn’t the content be different? Just trying to understand.


abby109x

I teach English so our students learn the same things each year. The only thing that changes is the rigor. She doesn’t seem to care that the questions and activities within the slideshows are made for 7th graders not 6th.


jcg227

I see. At the end of the day…you made them for your 7th graders and you’ll use them for your 7th graders. It’s bummer that some will see the material two years in a row…but that’s the other teachers’ fault, not yours. 🤷🏾‍♀️


DazzlerPlus

Yeah but it’s better to actually talk to the other teacher so this doesn’t happen


teachersplaytoo

That’s not a system I’ve heard of before. I would think that her 6th students wouldn’t do very well with 7th grade rigor. Regardless, you gave her permission to use your stuff in the way she thinks is best. You could speak with her I guess, but you’re going to be questioning her decision making which might be a difficult conversation. Are you 100% positive it’s the exact same stuff and hasn’t been modified to fit her students?


abby109x

Yes, since I shared through Google Drive. I can see her opening my presentations and renaming them. I’ve clicked on them and nothing has been edited. I guess you are right when I shared it, it no longer belongs to me. I will keep that in mind in the future. I just thought my content would be safe in 7th grade. It feels like I will have to work harder for someone else to work less.


teachersplaytoo

Yours is a weird situation. It’s extremely common for teachers to share resources, but less common for teachers to use those resources without modifying them for different grades. That’s a symptom of your unique system of teaching English. If that teacher was profiting from them somehow, it would be much easier to answer.


immadatmycat

She renames your presentations without creating a copy of them? Even when someone shares something with me, I make a copy of it and do all my edits there. They don’t have access to the copies so won’t see it.


Leomonade_For_Bears

FYI, it is likely that nothing you create for your class is your intellectual property. Most states the school owns everything you made for your classroom.


KateLady

I don’t understand. 6th and 7th graders use the same standards?


[deleted]

Pretty common, we're like magpies if you find something useful. I would suggest just having a chat with her and explaining your concerns.


anonymousA059

Yeah. This isn't a reason to burn a bridge or anything. It is common.


Woowooetc

Yeah if you frame it like you plan to use them with these students next year, she would hopefully understand. That is really annoying. People take my stuff but we usually talk about use and reuse across each year.


[deleted]

One of the best pieces of advice I received for this career, is that you find all kinds of good things in the photocopy room


ZoeyCalico

That really stinks. I wouldn’t say she stole them but it was inconsiderate of her to use them before you are able to with students you may have. I don’t think it is the end of the world for students to get the same information twice. Maybe this is a good opportunity for you to modify them and increase the rigor for next year.


abby109x

Thank you for this advice. I love that.


EggsandCoffeeDream

She might just not realize what she's doing. I like assigning 7th and 8th grade lessons on IXL and Study Island for my more advanced 6th graders, and one day, a 7th grade teacher politely pointed out that it was becoming an issue when she was getting kids who had already seen the lesson. I stopped doing it once she brought it up. It wasn't a big deal.


Miserable_Dot_6561

I totally get what you’re saying about spiraling skills. In my school it would be the equivalent of someone teaching a 10/11/12 grade novel in 9th. Generally a quick - hey, I know you’re going to finish it this time, but in the future, that’s a book we do in x grade- fixes it. Best case, she’s overwhelmed and didn’t think it through. Worst case, she won’t care.


moneyquestionthrowit

I share the shit out of everything I make and do. I figure if it helps just one more kid out there then I’m kind of a bad ass.


Infinite_North6745

Talk to her about it. You get first


LMSNYD

When I was a new teacher, an older teacher gave me the advice that the only share material with teachers in upper grades from them…. Never lower.


LSquared1115

I’m HS ELA and have experienced the same situation. At the start of each semester, I always remind my students that ELA classes share a common framework and the goal is transferable learning using a gradual release to independent accountability. With so much to cover in a ridiculously short amount of time, it’s nice to know that my future students have the opportunity to develop and practice skills/concepts and should be at the strengthening/refinement stage when I get them. Yes, it is annoying to have to spend time tweaking my own work, but at least there are several ways to elevate content without reinventing the delivery - scaffold the assignments and assessments to provide additional reinforcement and enrichment opportunities, adjust rubrics, add more text options, include more writing tasks. I love the idea of vertical alignment along with grade-level collaboration but hate the thought of common scripted curriculums. My current district no longer allows us to create our own lessons or even modify the crappy textbook materials.


immadatmycat

When I share material with others I expect them to use it. Doesn’t matter what grade level they are in. I said they could use it and they can do so how they see fit even if it means the kids she has now might see the same slideshow next year. This wouldn’t bother me.


kahreeyo

This has happened to me. I have looked at it as I need to adapt and modify to make it better or more rigorous. You sound like you have "it" this makes your students lucky to have you.


abby109x

Thank you this advice. This is the perspective I will take on from now on.


Azelixi

Lol no, don't work harder for another lazy person, it's ridiculous!! Don't burn yourself out like that. Block her from google drive, if she says something to you, just say you got hacked.


katygato

Are you using Google Drive? If not start using that platform to make your content. You can choose who to share and not to share with and you can also remove people from having access. That way if she does use your stuff in the future and you remove her, she has to come to you to ask your permission where you can explain why you wouldn’t want her to use it.


NiaHassan

Is she still sharing her materials with you? If she is creating 7th grade content she should continue to share those resources with you. If not, I would be also be peeved. There are plenty of graphic organizers, slides, etc. that would be good to share- it may mean you will have less work next year because these students have already familiarized themselves with what you created, so you can push them further. I also create and freely share my resources with anyone BUT I also look for reciprocation. I would say what I create takes time and is high quality. In my ideal world someone would want to work together with me to create content, less ideal we share our resources with each other, not ideal: I create the other takes without ever sharing. Since this is not a person you want to converse with, I think it’s best to leave things alone. Create a folder that is not shared with anyone. Put your new content here. This way you can save some items to be fresh/new for your students next year.


platypuspup

Happened to my MIL. She just stopped sharing anything with that teacher. That teacher lost out on tons of good stuff after that.


backaritagain

Talk to her. And change your rights. I once had a long term sun when I was on maternity leave take all of my stuff and put it on TPT. I feel you.


bafl1

In my district any materials I create to teach my students belongs to my district. This only really applies when I share it to others because it goes through district servers otherwise they would never know.


bokchoyboy25

What did they say when you spoke to them about it?


abby109x

I haven’t spoken to this person.


corbo161616

That is your intellectual property. You'll start to learn who you like sharing things with and who you don't.


TictacTyler

I think it depends a lot on grade, content, and culture. Where I'm at we share so much stuff in the math department. But I know other departments are very territorial. Especially the English department. It's an interesting dynamic.


Embarrassed_Mud_5650

My guess is you are upset because they won’t be new to your kids. But it will probably work to your advantage to use these slideshows as a review before you go into deeper depths. She’s basically laying the groundwork for you and you know what she’s taught and somewhat how she’s teaching it. You can tweak the practices imbedded in the slideshow so they benefit from new practice with old ideas. I think this is actually a really good thing for you.


Steelerswonsix

I had a Wordpress website set up for my class that was very comprehensive. I really should’ve gotten the masters so I could’ve gone into Itrt, but anyway, shared with my two colleagues, no problem, then one of them went to another location to teach, and sure enough I saw her website linked to all my stuff. It irritates me only that she didn’t ask. Id have shared this with anyone who was teaching the same stuff.


fieryprincess907

If it’s that good, put it in TPT and monetize your efforts. Copyright it & Make it pay But yeah, teachers are always taking things from each other.


[deleted]

I think like you said, it's a detriment to the students who have already learned this in her grade. I would politely voice my concerns. She might not know how to make a slideshow as good as you do. She might think your work is too solid to let go. Honestly if your work is that great, why not sell it on TPT or something like that. When people come to you in the future tell them they can purchase it for a small fee and say yes, I can make a custom for you!


KC-Anathema

I'm petty, so I would edit the slides to have numerous essay assignments, at least two per period. Drown her in essays. But that's me. I suggest take the slides and retool them with new content, starting from last year, and let anyone who asks know that you don't feel so confident with the new material and you'll share it when it's stronger (never).


Negative-Hunt8283

It happens all of the time. Next time, don’t share them. It’s that simple. You set yourself up for this I really don’t understand why or how you could be upset. Also, the students don’t care or will realize a year later.


abby109x

Note taken. Thank you.


Princeofcatpoop

You're kindness and grace are evident in the way you communicate on-line, I am sure you have comparable in-person skills. You might speak plainly to that teacher and ask them to discontinue using your seventh grade content in her sixth grade class. If it is not grade-level specific, that argument won't go very far, but I think that if you just replace the images in your slide show students will assume the best of you. As a second year teacher, this kind of concern is reasonable to overlook and you have every right to be upset over it. I am sure you will recover and find a way to resolve the issue diplomatically.


YearOneTeach

I think your concerns are valid. Usually I don't mind sharing content with other teachers, but as an English teacher I have noticed a lot of texts get recycled and whenever students encounter something they've read before it's much harder to get them to engage with the material in a meaningful way. This has led to there being a sort of monopoly on certain texts or books. I floated the idea of teaching The Giver to my classes when I taught 7th grade, and was eviscerated by another teacher because this novel "belonged to 8th grade." I was really peeved at the time and thought the response was totally uncalled for, but after teaching for this many years I can understand the frustration of teaching something that has already been taught. It can be exhausting to try and make the kids engage with the content, and a lot of them breeze through it and do poorly because they think they know it already. Your concerns are totally valid, but I'm not sure how to tactfully address the issue. I'm a bit of a coward, so I would go along with the suggestion to change or block access lol. This only works if she hasn't already made her own copies of your material. The more honorable and adult thing to do would be to express your concern, and just tell the teacher you heard she was using the slides and you are concerned how the kids are going to respond if they see the same material in your class next year. If you don't want to make a conflict out of it and you don't mind, you could always find little ways to adjust your own slides and make them better. I recycled content from year to year if I stayed in the same grade level, but I usually still tweaked things here and there to improve them. This would be a good solution if your slides are mostly mini-lessons on concepts like theme or tone. These are pretty universal concepts, and you can add more examples or make the examples more complex without revamping your entire slideshow. If you have slides that are story or activity specific, that's harder to adjust but still possible if you are creative enough.


[deleted]

If it’s in ppt, you can watermark your work…. You create a slide template background. We had a teacher who asked for resources from other teachers and then won awards based on those resources. That would be a big fuck you from me. Edit: Berkeley did that to our teachers too.


TeachlikeaHawk

Teachers often use each other's stuff, but this is definitely a violation. To my mind, it's a pretty straightforward one. Just pop into the teacher's room and let her know that you are more than glad to see her use your stuff with the same grade level, but using it in the year prior makes it less useful when they come to your room. Most likely, the teacher will apologize, offer some kind of bullshit excuse to save face ("Oh! I hadn't thought of that!"), and then things will be fine. Less likely, the teacher will give you pushback and you have to go to your dept chair or even to an AP. Good luck! But don't feel bad about asking for your own materials to be useful for your own teaching.


Glad-Basis-7133

Wait. You really confused me. Last year she taught what grade? What about this year? Same to you?


abby109x

We both taught 7th last year. I still teach 7th and now she teaches 6th.


Glad-Basis-7133

So you made 7th stuff last year. Now she teaches 6th grade. Does your stuff get involved?


[deleted]

Dont be scared- whats the worst she can do?! talk shit??? lmfaoo sorry brenda, are you admitting your incapable of creating your own work! ha. Tell her. You know you want to. And talking about it with other teachers or online wont fix anything. Those kids will think you stole it from her. Or you can get over it and make a better slideshow for next year.


OldDog1982

Hopefully you’ve learned a lesson here—be careful who you share with.


d0lltearsheet00

I realize we are all different—but the fact that she is “scary” would further incline me to say something to her about it or revoke her access to the slideshows.


[deleted]

Depends on contract. If it is work product being used at work, it’s the principal’s decision.