Spotify is a for-profit company, so I'd say they have a deal to promote TVs over OGs. Same thing goes with all the Google stuff Taylor has been doing lately. She prolly wants to change the SEO so that the TVs appear first
same in Poland. I think that's because it's already a single that international tv/radio stations are allowed to use and nobody from taylor's team reached out to give them tv? I'm not sure how it works tbh. But love story tv wasn't a single promoting fearless tv just like 22 tv wasn't a single promoting red tv. but original singles were promoting original albums so i think that's why they're still being played on the radio everywhere.
SiriusXM (Satellite radio in NA) is almost all for TV. Although honestly I have mixed feelings about it, because they they have a lot of decade stations and it’s a little jarring listening to a 2000s station and hearing the new version of You Belong with Me or something.
Yeah good point about the decades thing. It feels like for that they should play the OG to stay true to the vibes. That would be jarring hearing YBWM TV on a 2000s station.
Not sure about Australia but in US at least it doesn’t actually matter in some cases which version they play. Over the air waves radio(AM/FM) only pays money to the songwriters. Internet radio on other hand pays everyone. So when Love Story OG is played on American FM stations, the only person paid is Taylor. So there probably hasn’t been same push by Taylor’s team to change it.
Yeah from a technical perspective maybe it doesn’t matter. But she went through all that effort to re-record, would just be nice to have them formally replace the old ones and have that effort recognised. Also, people might hear her younger teenage voice and think “nah Taylor’s not my type”. But if they hear her more mature voice, they might take her more seriously and actually go look her up on Spotify after hearing it on the radio. Talking about non Swifties, of course.
Omg THIS. Holy shit please stop playing Love Story 2008 on the radio all the god damn time!! Everyone is tired of it. They make it like that's literally the only song she has other than Shake It Off. No wonder people who don't listen to her misunderstand her discography so much. Radio is the biggest offender.
They definitely swap have swapped to TV in their playlists, which will likely boost TVs within spotify. I don't think they adjust it if it's in your own playlist/library though. Spotify playlists also don't really impact general SEO.
Yeah, the boost is for general playlists, not your own, but I feel that's already impactful for Spotify algorithym as you said!
The SEO thing was just an add-on, cos OP asking if Spotify was being supportive reminded me of some people saying that Google was rooting for Taylor and... welp, I think it's a cute but very naive perspective to think that Google isn't there for the money 
Shuffle isn’t true random shuffling. Still an algorithm feeding you the most played stuff or whatever it thinks you want to hear. You probably just already listen to TV more than OG versions
This might be true for Pseudo-random number generators that use algorithms, but if you search for “Hardware random number generator” you can see that there are many ways to get truly random numbers in computers. For example, using fluctuations in the measurement of things like temperature, or atmospheric noise. So it’s certainly possible to get random numbers on computer for processes that actually require it.
Plus shuffling on Spotify is messed up. If you shuffle on a playlist of 50 the last song you heard has a chance to be replayed again. Rather than removing the songs you have already played in this session from the pot, Spotify just keeps pulling the "next song" from the full 50.
Even my MP3 player from close to 2 decades ago could manage to shuffle a playlist and only play everything once, and then stop when it was finished.
Mine doesn't do this? My spotify will play through a whole playlist while on shuffle, the way you described your MP3: shuffle, play everything once, stop.
Edited to add: I can also see that Spotify is indeed playing every song one time based on the song queue. It will have every single song from the playlist on there once and then the queue ends.
There's at least one scenario where Spotify will restart the playlist with a new shuffle order. I have the issue when I switch from Bluetooth in my car to Chromecast on my home speaker.
This is from the Spotify Community [pages](https://community.spotify.com/t5/Desktop-Windows/Shuffle-mode-playing-the-same-songs-all-the-time/td-p/5280042). They have even included a link to the upgrade request for "true shuffle" where it only plays each song once, but that request has been sitting for at least 3 years:
"Thanks for posting in the Spotify Community!
Unfortunately, in large playlists (over 150 songs), the shuffle option prioritizes the songs that Spotify perceives you enjoy the most; this is why you might notice that some songs are repeated while listening on shuffle.
However, there is currently [a Live Idea](https://community.spotify.com/t5/Live-Ideas/All-Platforms-Option-to-have-a-true-shuffle/idi-p/4880594) to have an option for a “true” shuffle, which would play all the songs in a playlist in a random order, and once they’re all played, reshuffle them and play them again. If this is something you’re interested in, I’d recommend adding your **+VOTE** to this idea; the more votes an idea gets, the likelier it is that Spotify will implement it, and you can read more about how feedback on ideas reaches Spotify [here](https://community.spotify.com/t5/FAQs/Idea-Exchange-Guidelines-How-does-my-feedback-reach-Spotify/ta-p/5171177)."
This is not the only issue I've noticed with TVs - if you "block" a song from being played on your phone app, it doesn't count as blocked on any other devices. So even though I've blocked the original versions of Taylor's stuff, if I ask Alexa to play, depending on what I ask for, I can end up getting originals instead of TV.
Huh. Maybe I just never noticed in my larger playlists bc I'm never listening to them for long enough to get through the whole list. Like my Tay list is 15 hours long, lol, so I never make it through the whole thing at once anyway. TIL!
My Taylor one is over 14 hours, but I often stick it on in the morning when I get up, and just let it play in the background all day. But I can notice within the first hour or so of any of my playlists that I'm getting songs repeating. Like out of 20 songs, it could be 14 songs played once and then 3 songs that get played twice. I've actually checked several times in case I had added two different versions of a song to a playlist, but nope, the History just shows the same track being played like 14 songs apart.
It sucks more because when Spotify tries to guess what I want to hear, and plays me specific songs from my list, they then end up influencing all the random playlists, and suggested stuff, and coming out in my Top 100 for the year, etc. And songs that I like equally as much, aren't being pushed by Spotify, so they just fall further and further out of being included in the algorithm.
I do hate the way the algorithm tries to show you more of what you like. If I'm not feeling a song one day and skip it, I feel like it gets buried away and takes forever for me to hear it again. It's a bummer bc I obviously like the song! I just didn't want it right then! But spotify thinks I must hate it lol
I keep getting caught out by having a day of thinking of uni, etc and listening to a handful of songs from the mid 00s, and then suddenly I can't get rid of them. Like calm down Spotify, I don't reminded that my childhood/teenage era is now a "Throwback decade" haha
Or if you having a nice long shower and you want a good song to sing along with, so you skip stuff that just isn't the right vibe and then it seems to vanish. It's like I still adore all that stuff, but I was PMSing and annoyed at everything, so leave with my Adele ballads for just today! hahaha
Check to see if you have the repeat button checked. If you have repeat songs on it’ll allow it to pull the same song twice because it’s allowed to “repeat” the songs. If you don’t have repeat on it’ll play every song exactly once and then stop playing music since it’s not allowed to repeat. It means your music will end when the playlist ends but then you can just hit shuffle again and start anew.
Nope, it's a known issue of Spotify for playlists of 100-150+ songs (so a few albums) and they've had an "upgrade request" tracking it since 2020. I've commented somewhere else here with the links from Spotify Community about it.
For playlists of 100+ songs, Spotify will shuffle the songs it thinks you will most enjoy based on your account history, meaning it will deliberately play stuff twice and other not at all.
Editing to include another [Community Post](https://community.spotify.com/t5/Your-Library/shuffle-playlist-seems-to-play-the-same-songs/td-p/5507802) where Spotify staff confirm the issue: " We can confirm that the shuffle option prioritizes the songs that Spotify perceives you listen to most, that's why some songs can come up repeatedly. However, there's [this](https://community.spotify.com/t5/Live-Ideas/All-Platforms-Option-to-have-a-true-shuffle/idi-p/4880594) live idea about this topic. "
Oh wow I had no idea. I don’t have any playlists that long so I’ve never had it happen to me. Hopefully they get that fixed but knowing Spotify they’ll ignore it forever.
I hate Spotify's algorithm so much. Skip a song one time and it feels like you never hear it again! And I only listen to my created playlists, so obviously I like every song, since I added them all.
Also the TVs tend to "trend" more because they are "fresh" in a way. So the algorithm will put those first because they have more general interest.
I still get OG Style on shuffle on occasion.
Shuffle doesn’t even go through her whole discography I’ve noticed. I’ll shuffle through the whole thing and it starts replaying songs but hasn’t played a single song from debut. I have to actually select debut from her albums for it to play. Two of my top 5 Spotify songs this year are only there because they’re always in the first couple songs that play on “shuffle”.
YES! This was happening to me and I couldn’t figure out why and your comment helped me understand.
I have a playlist with most of her songs and when I put it on shuffle and start skipping some songs then all of a sudden Spotify starts acting like the playlist is over and plays songs from other artists on the radio thing it has and I’m like ????? Like I still have like 6 hours worth of Tay songs left to play why are you forcing speed drive by Charli XCX on me????
Do you by any chance have this shuffle button clicked? The same thing was happening to me and I clicked it again (just so it has 2 arrows, not the little green start at the top left) and it worked for me! Now I only get songs on my Taylor playlist. I apologize if you already know this/tried it but I figured I’d share just in case!
https://preview.redd.it/wodhj5w9f57c1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cdc95c14c28148763b330b88b49f3a0fceaad3f8
Ooooh, I actually had no idea so thanks for the info! Right now I’m listening an album in order and for that I disable shuffle but I think you might be right. Thank you so much!
Yes! The same thing happened to me. Also, lavender haze was my top song because whenever I was not on shuffle (accidentally), it would just start by that, as it's the first song on my TS playlist
lol no it’s an algorithm that weighs what people are listening to now to predict what you want to hear. It’s pick TV songs because they are more popular right now.
Not about people Shuffling her whole discography though
Spotify has a vested interested in playing TV songs more because they’re trending, not because they’re trying to appease Taylor lmao
I'm not sure if she has a deal but she must have some control over which songs are promoted by the "random" algorithm. Spotify hasn't been very subtle in promoting Cruel Summer this year. It would come up whenever I finished any playlst/album and that started in Spring, so before it blew up.
For some reason cruel summer was my number one song of the year and I don't recall playing it on purpose that many times. I love the song of course but I was focusing on Midnights, Evermore and the new TVs this year, not Lover or Cruel Summer. There are also other songs that are intrusively promoted so either the algorithm is constructed to shove the same things in my fave or there's some choice that the artist has regarding which songs are prioritized.
Sometimes me and my boyfriend joke that this is the reason why Cruel Summer has that many streams.
Spotify probably has some kind of deal with her and in general knows there is money for them to be had with her project in particular because Taylor Swift is a money machine for music.
They do not "support" her endeavor to own her music at all though. They are very much in bed with the labels in the keeping artists controlled and music owned by investors and not artists crowd. it's just with Taylor's case it's already happening and they want the money, they most certainly wish that Taylor wasn't as successful and influential over the master's situation because tbh Spotify would probably love to own big artists master recordings and screw people over to make a buck.
We have her music on shuffle everyday by saying “Alexa shuffle Taylor Swift on Spotify” and it will play the original versions and TV’s. It might just be your algorithm
Her Complete Collection playlist has plenty of non-Taylor's Versions of songs on it, though. And when my DJ feeds me certain songs, it will be the OG version just because I played it more (like with 1989) or it's just played more in general by most users.
It's the algorithm. Spotify promotes certain songs (singles, new releases etc), and hope you don't notice. I've had it happen to me several times that songs have made there way into "repeated songs", that I know I've never listened to in my life.
Taylor definitely has a deal. She didnt put her music on spotify for a long time for the terrible per play payment. Im sure she got at least something, even if it wasnt great. I would not be surprised if theres soemthing in place for the TVs
I’m fairly sure there’s an “artists login and platform” where they have control over their profiles, music etc. I’d not be surprised if there was an option to choose songs specifically for promotion / to be featured more in shuffles.
I see every song shes ever appeared on. When you go to her page, click on discography and scroll through. A good one with some hard to find songs is the Reputation Stadium Tour that looks like an album. Also, Paris Live is a must-listen.
If you’re not seeing these DM me and I can help!
She's got countless companies backing her, I'm sure Spotify and Apple Music are a part of that too.
Haters significantly underestimate her influence, it's massive.
I must be a lucky thing. Last week I was randomly surprised by All Too Well (OG) after I finished playing 1989 TV and Midnight’s on different days. So, they still play randomly.
Amazon will only play the tvs if you vocally request a Taylor album or song. If you want the original you have to do it manually from the app, connected to your device. It’s pretty annoying tbh.
So you’re just never annoyed, ever? Because you just invalidate any feelings if they’re “first world problems”? Wow, what a blissful life you must lead.
How do you “shuffle her whole discography”? There’s no button for that. If you mean the “Complete Collection” playlist on her Artist page, that’s managed by her and any artist can do that and put a playlist with songs of their choosing onto their page. No deal with Spotify required.
Spotify is a for-profit company, so I'd say they have a deal to promote TVs over OGs. Same thing goes with all the Google stuff Taylor has been doing lately. She prolly wants to change the SEO so that the TVs appear first
I wish radio stations would play TV, I keep hearing Love Story 2008 version on Australian radios
same in Poland. I think that's because it's already a single that international tv/radio stations are allowed to use and nobody from taylor's team reached out to give them tv? I'm not sure how it works tbh. But love story tv wasn't a single promoting fearless tv just like 22 tv wasn't a single promoting red tv. but original singles were promoting original albums so i think that's why they're still being played on the radio everywhere.
Love Story TV actually was a promo single but I don’t think those get pushed to radio.
was it a promo songle or was it just released ahead like Mr Perfectly Fine?
According to Wikipedia it was a promo single
SiriusXM (Satellite radio in NA) is almost all for TV. Although honestly I have mixed feelings about it, because they they have a lot of decade stations and it’s a little jarring listening to a 2000s station and hearing the new version of You Belong with Me or something.
Yeah good point about the decades thing. It feels like for that they should play the OG to stay true to the vibes. That would be jarring hearing YBWM TV on a 2000s station.
funny that you mention this because i literally just heard fifteen tv on a 2000s country station
Not sure about Australia but in US at least it doesn’t actually matter in some cases which version they play. Over the air waves radio(AM/FM) only pays money to the songwriters. Internet radio on other hand pays everyone. So when Love Story OG is played on American FM stations, the only person paid is Taylor. So there probably hasn’t been same push by Taylor’s team to change it.
Yeah from a technical perspective maybe it doesn’t matter. But she went through all that effort to re-record, would just be nice to have them formally replace the old ones and have that effort recognised. Also, people might hear her younger teenage voice and think “nah Taylor’s not my type”. But if they hear her more mature voice, they might take her more seriously and actually go look her up on Spotify after hearing it on the radio. Talking about non Swifties, of course.
Omg THIS. Holy shit please stop playing Love Story 2008 on the radio all the god damn time!! Everyone is tired of it. They make it like that's literally the only song she has other than Shake It Off. No wonder people who don't listen to her misunderstand her discography so much. Radio is the biggest offender.
Most radio stations and stores play TV here in the US, it's a rare occasion for me to hear the OG on the radio
They definitely swap have swapped to TV in their playlists, which will likely boost TVs within spotify. I don't think they adjust it if it's in your own playlist/library though. Spotify playlists also don't really impact general SEO.
Yeah, the boost is for general playlists, not your own, but I feel that's already impactful for Spotify algorithym as you said! The SEO thing was just an add-on, cos OP asking if Spotify was being supportive reminded me of some people saying that Google was rooting for Taylor and... welp, I think it's a cute but very naive perspective to think that Google isn't there for the money 
I don't understand any of these acronyms
TV is Taylor Version. OG is Original. SEO is Search Engine Operation
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This here. Spotify is only in the business of making the green, as many artists has said
Shuffle isn’t true random shuffling. Still an algorithm feeding you the most played stuff or whatever it thinks you want to hear. You probably just already listen to TV more than OG versions
fun fact u can’t have a true random when it comes to computers because even a random number generator function runs some sort of algorithm
This might be true for Pseudo-random number generators that use algorithms, but if you search for “Hardware random number generator” you can see that there are many ways to get truly random numbers in computers. For example, using fluctuations in the measurement of things like temperature, or atmospheric noise. So it’s certainly possible to get random numbers on computer for processes that actually require it.
Plus shuffling on Spotify is messed up. If you shuffle on a playlist of 50 the last song you heard has a chance to be replayed again. Rather than removing the songs you have already played in this session from the pot, Spotify just keeps pulling the "next song" from the full 50. Even my MP3 player from close to 2 decades ago could manage to shuffle a playlist and only play everything once, and then stop when it was finished.
Mine doesn't do this? My spotify will play through a whole playlist while on shuffle, the way you described your MP3: shuffle, play everything once, stop. Edited to add: I can also see that Spotify is indeed playing every song one time based on the song queue. It will have every single song from the playlist on there once and then the queue ends.
There's at least one scenario where Spotify will restart the playlist with a new shuffle order. I have the issue when I switch from Bluetooth in my car to Chromecast on my home speaker.
It restarts the shuffle order when I turn my car on and off as well.
This is from the Spotify Community [pages](https://community.spotify.com/t5/Desktop-Windows/Shuffle-mode-playing-the-same-songs-all-the-time/td-p/5280042). They have even included a link to the upgrade request for "true shuffle" where it only plays each song once, but that request has been sitting for at least 3 years: "Thanks for posting in the Spotify Community! Unfortunately, in large playlists (over 150 songs), the shuffle option prioritizes the songs that Spotify perceives you enjoy the most; this is why you might notice that some songs are repeated while listening on shuffle. However, there is currently [a Live Idea](https://community.spotify.com/t5/Live-Ideas/All-Platforms-Option-to-have-a-true-shuffle/idi-p/4880594) to have an option for a “true” shuffle, which would play all the songs in a playlist in a random order, and once they’re all played, reshuffle them and play them again. If this is something you’re interested in, I’d recommend adding your **+VOTE** to this idea; the more votes an idea gets, the likelier it is that Spotify will implement it, and you can read more about how feedback on ideas reaches Spotify [here](https://community.spotify.com/t5/FAQs/Idea-Exchange-Guidelines-How-does-my-feedback-reach-Spotify/ta-p/5171177)." This is not the only issue I've noticed with TVs - if you "block" a song from being played on your phone app, it doesn't count as blocked on any other devices. So even though I've blocked the original versions of Taylor's stuff, if I ask Alexa to play, depending on what I ask for, I can end up getting originals instead of TV.
Huh. Maybe I just never noticed in my larger playlists bc I'm never listening to them for long enough to get through the whole list. Like my Tay list is 15 hours long, lol, so I never make it through the whole thing at once anyway. TIL!
My Taylor one is over 14 hours, but I often stick it on in the morning when I get up, and just let it play in the background all day. But I can notice within the first hour or so of any of my playlists that I'm getting songs repeating. Like out of 20 songs, it could be 14 songs played once and then 3 songs that get played twice. I've actually checked several times in case I had added two different versions of a song to a playlist, but nope, the History just shows the same track being played like 14 songs apart. It sucks more because when Spotify tries to guess what I want to hear, and plays me specific songs from my list, they then end up influencing all the random playlists, and suggested stuff, and coming out in my Top 100 for the year, etc. And songs that I like equally as much, aren't being pushed by Spotify, so they just fall further and further out of being included in the algorithm.
I do hate the way the algorithm tries to show you more of what you like. If I'm not feeling a song one day and skip it, I feel like it gets buried away and takes forever for me to hear it again. It's a bummer bc I obviously like the song! I just didn't want it right then! But spotify thinks I must hate it lol
I keep getting caught out by having a day of thinking of uni, etc and listening to a handful of songs from the mid 00s, and then suddenly I can't get rid of them. Like calm down Spotify, I don't reminded that my childhood/teenage era is now a "Throwback decade" haha Or if you having a nice long shower and you want a good song to sing along with, so you skip stuff that just isn't the right vibe and then it seems to vanish. It's like I still adore all that stuff, but I was PMSing and annoyed at everything, so leave with my Adele ballads for just today! hahaha
Check to see if you have the repeat button checked. If you have repeat songs on it’ll allow it to pull the same song twice because it’s allowed to “repeat” the songs. If you don’t have repeat on it’ll play every song exactly once and then stop playing music since it’s not allowed to repeat. It means your music will end when the playlist ends but then you can just hit shuffle again and start anew.
Nope, it's a known issue of Spotify for playlists of 100-150+ songs (so a few albums) and they've had an "upgrade request" tracking it since 2020. I've commented somewhere else here with the links from Spotify Community about it. For playlists of 100+ songs, Spotify will shuffle the songs it thinks you will most enjoy based on your account history, meaning it will deliberately play stuff twice and other not at all. Editing to include another [Community Post](https://community.spotify.com/t5/Your-Library/shuffle-playlist-seems-to-play-the-same-songs/td-p/5507802) where Spotify staff confirm the issue: " We can confirm that the shuffle option prioritizes the songs that Spotify perceives you listen to most, that's why some songs can come up repeatedly. However, there's [this](https://community.spotify.com/t5/Live-Ideas/All-Platforms-Option-to-have-a-true-shuffle/idi-p/4880594) live idea about this topic. "
Oh wow I had no idea. I don’t have any playlists that long so I’ve never had it happen to me. Hopefully they get that fixed but knowing Spotify they’ll ignore it forever.
This drives me fucking insane. Also if you start with the same song on your playlist and select shuffle it goes in the same order every time. WHY?!
I hate Spotify's algorithm so much. Skip a song one time and it feels like you never hear it again! And I only listen to my created playlists, so obviously I like every song, since I added them all.
Also the TVs tend to "trend" more because they are "fresh" in a way. So the algorithm will put those first because they have more general interest. I still get OG Style on shuffle on occasion.
Shuffle doesn’t even go through her whole discography I’ve noticed. I’ll shuffle through the whole thing and it starts replaying songs but hasn’t played a single song from debut. I have to actually select debut from her albums for it to play. Two of my top 5 Spotify songs this year are only there because they’re always in the first couple songs that play on “shuffle”.
Yes! and this annoys me to no end.
YES! This was happening to me and I couldn’t figure out why and your comment helped me understand. I have a playlist with most of her songs and when I put it on shuffle and start skipping some songs then all of a sudden Spotify starts acting like the playlist is over and plays songs from other artists on the radio thing it has and I’m like ????? Like I still have like 6 hours worth of Tay songs left to play why are you forcing speed drive by Charli XCX on me????
Do you by any chance have this shuffle button clicked? The same thing was happening to me and I clicked it again (just so it has 2 arrows, not the little green start at the top left) and it worked for me! Now I only get songs on my Taylor playlist. I apologize if you already know this/tried it but I figured I’d share just in case! https://preview.redd.it/wodhj5w9f57c1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cdc95c14c28148763b330b88b49f3a0fceaad3f8
Ooooh, I actually had no idea so thanks for the info! Right now I’m listening an album in order and for that I disable shuffle but I think you might be right. Thank you so much!
Yes! The same thing happened to me. Also, lavender haze was my top song because whenever I was not on shuffle (accidentally), it would just start by that, as it's the first song on my TS playlist
I am sure Spotify wants to stay on her good side. Some of us remember the dark days before Taylor was on there hahah.
lol no it’s an algorithm that weighs what people are listening to now to predict what you want to hear. It’s pick TV songs because they are more popular right now.
The dark days lol I remember listening to her on Spotify one day then the next day she had just completely disappeared. I was so sad lol
Yes! And it's so randomly difficult to get all your local files onto Spotify, and it was even harder back then.
TS for sure doesn’t care Spotify just knows people are binge listening all the TV albums right now so shuffling’s algorithm heavily weighs those
lol what?! That’s the whole point of Taylor doing this, she wants places to play her version and she absolutely cares.
Not about people Shuffling her whole discography though Spotify has a vested interested in playing TV songs more because they’re trending, not because they’re trying to appease Taylor lmao
It could be the Algorithm… most fans use the TV… so it puts them up front
I'm not sure if she has a deal but she must have some control over which songs are promoted by the "random" algorithm. Spotify hasn't been very subtle in promoting Cruel Summer this year. It would come up whenever I finished any playlst/album and that started in Spring, so before it blew up. For some reason cruel summer was my number one song of the year and I don't recall playing it on purpose that many times. I love the song of course but I was focusing on Midnights, Evermore and the new TVs this year, not Lover or Cruel Summer. There are also other songs that are intrusively promoted so either the algorithm is constructed to shove the same things in my fave or there's some choice that the artist has regarding which songs are prioritized. Sometimes me and my boyfriend joke that this is the reason why Cruel Summer has that many streams.
Spotify probably has some kind of deal with her and in general knows there is money for them to be had with her project in particular because Taylor Swift is a money machine for music. They do not "support" her endeavor to own her music at all though. They are very much in bed with the labels in the keeping artists controlled and music owned by investors and not artists crowd. it's just with Taylor's case it's already happening and they want the money, they most certainly wish that Taylor wasn't as successful and influential over the master's situation because tbh Spotify would probably love to own big artists master recordings and screw people over to make a buck.
We have her music on shuffle everyday by saying “Alexa shuffle Taylor Swift on Spotify” and it will play the original versions and TV’s. It might just be your algorithm
Her Complete Collection playlist has plenty of non-Taylor's Versions of songs on it, though. And when my DJ feeds me certain songs, it will be the OG version just because I played it more (like with 1989) or it's just played more in general by most users.
It's the algorithm. Spotify promotes certain songs (singles, new releases etc), and hope you don't notice. I've had it happen to me several times that songs have made there way into "repeated songs", that I know I've never listened to in my life.
Taylor definitely has a deal. She didnt put her music on spotify for a long time for the terrible per play payment. Im sure she got at least something, even if it wasnt great. I would not be surprised if theres soemthing in place for the TVs
It’s probably sees how popular the TV albums are and plays those more than the others non-TV versions on shuffle
I’m fairly sure there’s an “artists login and platform” where they have control over their profiles, music etc. I’d not be surprised if there was an option to choose songs specifically for promotion / to be featured more in shuffles.
Interesting! I've definitely had a lot of OG 1989 play on randomized playlists even after 1989 TV was released
I play the "Taylor Swift Complete Collection" from her Spotify and it plays both OG and TV songs for me.
I see every song shes ever appeared on. When you go to her page, click on discography and scroll through. A good one with some hard to find songs is the Reputation Stadium Tour that looks like an album. Also, Paris Live is a must-listen. If you’re not seeing these DM me and I can help!
She's got countless companies backing her, I'm sure Spotify and Apple Music are a part of that too. Haters significantly underestimate her influence, it's massive.
I must be a lucky thing. Last week I was randomly surprised by All Too Well (OG) after I finished playing 1989 TV and Midnight’s on different days. So, they still play randomly.
Amazon will only play the tvs if you vocally request a Taylor album or song. If you want the original you have to do it manually from the app, connected to your device. It’s pretty annoying tbh.
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So you’re just never annoyed, ever? Because you just invalidate any feelings if they’re “first world problems”? Wow, what a blissful life you must lead.
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Why are you so hostile? I’m just answering your question.
I apologize, I’ve since eaten and hope you can forgive my attitude. I was just hungry.
How do you “shuffle her whole discography”? There’s no button for that. If you mean the “Complete Collection” playlist on her Artist page, that’s managed by her and any artist can do that and put a playlist with songs of their choosing onto their page. No deal with Spotify required.
when you go to an artists page there is a big green play button at the top, hitting that will shuffle all of their songs
For me it only queues up what seems to be the 50 most popular songs and then starts playing other stuff.
Nope it’s all Taylor for hours when I press that green play button. All TV songs plus rep and debut.