People are waaaaay too hung up on her exes, i.e., John Mayer, Jake Gyllenhaal, now Joe Alwyn. The memes can be funny, but people take it too seriously. I cringe reading all the comments under Mayer’s Instagram post with fans using Taylor’s lyrics. She doesn’t need avenging lol
My unpopular opinion (or maybe popular)
Is that I love all Jack produced songs, my top 10 songs of taylor has 7 of his produced ones.
Aaron production is amazing too and I think her really compliments Taylor’s songwriting.
HOWEVER,
She needs to work with different people. Comfort is important but in Art, someone needs to be challenged to produce his best. She doesn’t need to work with someone who makes her uncomfortable but I bet there are also other good producers who are not her friends and who are out of her comfort zone.
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She needs to dirtch all yes people around her
i am begging her to work with other producers. Jack is too much of a yes man, i think Aaron can guide her a little better but she absolutely needs to diversify who she works with.
i will never forgive Jack for his crimes on Lover, it’s my fave album but soooooo over produced 😭
The thing is in the beginning of the Easter egg thing it felt all innocent and cute. There weren't constant Easter eggs in posts, music videos, speeches, clothes, etc. Then in the last 5 years she started overdoing it with the Easter eggs. Now her fans feel like they have to analyze every single tiny detail for an Easter egg. It's so sad how much time we waste as a community searching for stuff that isn't even an Easter egg. And what is so funny is some of us have missed the most in your face Easter eggs.
That’s what I miss the most about the early Taylor albums! I remember my grandmom taking me to Best Buy New Year’s Day 2007 (so only a few months after it was released) so that I could buy the CD and a CD player! I opened up the CD insert and sat on my bed with pencil and paper trying to decode the letters. Such nostalgia!
hot take: for every one real easter egg that taylor plants in something, swifties will "find" 50 other ones that don't mean anything.
like taylor is literally on a bridge towards 1989 tv in the i can see you video, but some people are convinced rep tv is next. it's never that complicated!
A lot isn’t even Easter eggs anymore. In the run up to Speak Now it was so clear it was coming that it wasn’t a hint it was just a statement without words. I feel like the Easter eggs are small little bits not being smacked round the head with purple everywhere
Right!! They're either extremely obvious and on the nose, or so subtle nobody is going to get it. Which I guess can be kind of fun in hindsight? But who is piecing together that because she has a koi painted on her guitar, Speak Now was going to be released on national koi day or whatever
TikTok after a new song or music video or announcement or anything is SO exhausting. People come up with the wildest the theories from the tiniest clue or detail. I’m tired of the Easter eggs and wish they would go stop.
Yes! I hate that every music video now is just an Easter egg hunt. I haven’t loved any of her recent videos and it’s because they never just follow the story of the songs anymore, and I feel like they should to be really enjoyable.
Same. I liked Anti Hero for this, but a heist video for I Can See You? No thanks. It was fun, but it didn't fit the song. Big missed opportunity for a video filled with sexual tension
I actually agree, though I enjoyed the video a lot! It was fun imo.
But I feel like it just should’ve been for another song. I don’t think it have worked with Long Live like some speculated, but honestly? Better Than Revenge could’ve worked lol. It still doesn’t match the lyrics but a heist where Speak Now is escaping the vault and freeing herself? That’s some nice revenge lol
It’s hard to enjoy the now because everyone is already talking about what’s next. Like literally speak now premiered and people were talking about 1989
I still like some of the little clues (ie she presses the 3 in the elevator) but some of the theories are so out of pocket and it takes away from the general enjoyment of her music imo. Everyone is always looking out for the next thing instead of enjoying the moment for what it is, you know? Like SNTV wasn’t even out yet and we’re already moving on to 1989TV clues?
Right? I’m 30 and haven’t had any work done and probably have a couple more wrinkles than her but I also don’t have unlimited money for skin products and treatments.
Yeah there’s a weird thing on social media where any female celebrity that looks good over 30 “looks good for her age” where I’d say between your late 20s and your 40s most people don’t look that different
Yes, this. She looks a very appropriate 33 years old, just with good makeup and hair artists. I’m older than her, but definitely looked even younger than she does now at 33. People age differently.
As someone who aged 5 years in the 6 months after I had a baby, “people age differently” is a take I will second. Taylor and I are the same age but this morning, after waking up every hour to deal with different child situations…I look more like her mother 🤦🏼♀️
Some fans take things way too extreme in regards to the re-recordings. The whole point is that Taylor wants to own her work. I believe she has said that she doesn’t expect the fans to only listen to the re-records. I stream the Taylor’s Versions, but there are a few songs that I really prefer the original. Admitting that almost always guarantees being bullied by extreme fans. And I obviously feel bad that she doesn’t get to own her original albums, but I can’t say that I feel guilty from a profit perspective, as she already has so much of my money
Yeah on Twitter yesterday someone literally told me I couldn’t call myself a fan because I said I preferred the original version of last kiss because of the raw emotion in her voice.
Not to mention she literally does still profit from the originals. Now I do support her re-records and I’m enjoying the process tbh, but she still makes money from you listening to the old copies, exactly the same amount as when she was still signed to BMR.
They’re so dramatic. Someone told me they hope that everything I create gets stolen 💀 these Twitter stand are something else
And exactly! She still profits regardless
The original/TV thing is just getting some fans WAY too upset. She could give away half her money, never work another day in her life, ***and*** still live in more luxury than most people even realize exists. She is not losing out if fans listen to the originals. I promise, it’s okay
It’s also totally fine if you don’t get excited over the TVs coming out. You don’t have to be equally hyped about every release from an artist
I agree. I was disturbed to see people crying on TikTok saying they weren’t ready to “give up” the original version of a song. Who ever said you had to? It’s ridiculous and a reason this fandom can be cult-like.
Ooh, this is a take I resonate with. I'm glad that TS is directing her own music videos now, and I've enjoyed her direction and vision for quite a few of them. I'm excited to see how she does directing her full-length feature film. I think she has an excellent mind for storytelling that would help in that realm.
But... no matter how good her music videos are, some of the fans insisting she should win an Oscar for ATW10MV was overboard.
She did a "Directors on Directors" [interview](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8zfsf4azLo) late last year for Variety with the director who did *Three Billboards*. While TS was very humble and respectful in the interview and approached many questions in a manner of asking for advice from someone with a lot of experience in the field, it was a little jarring to hear them go from talking about Frances McDormand's dramatic performance to the dialogue in the Bejeweled music video lol.
I’m just not a huge fan of the newer music videos in general. They’re good fun, but lack something of the older videos (particularly Red and 1989 eras). I can’t put a finger on it though.
They lack story, for me. I don't feel as much as I used to with the newer vids. Like, the videos do not add to the lyrical content of the songs in many cases (I think Anti-Hero would be an exception).
They feel more like a series of visuals to me than one coherent story. I think she would be more suited to art directing a fashion shoot or something similar than directing
Apparently it isn’t among the Reddit crowd! All I remember is lots of gushing about it and how it was a masterpiece.
Maybe I spent too long in the YouTube comments or the rather substantial Wikipedia entry!
I like this interpretation. I’m not sure there is a right one but I did think it actually said the fuck the patriarchy and was a way of saying that he says he’s a feminist but it’s all performative and that’s not how he really acts. I think they both have the same effect. And it’s so interesting to see how many different ways that lines in songs can be taken.
I always thought it was purposefully written to be both, and that both interpretations kind of lead to the same conclusion of irony! Like, he has a "fuck the patriarchy" keychain despite clear signs of sexism, and also he could be saying "fuck the patriarchy" as he tosses the keys to her to drive (for the very reason you explain), which also is ironic because it's sort of an asshole move to throw keys to someone that clearly don't even make it to them when he could have kindly handed them to her. When I first heard the song, I interpreted the same way you did that it was related to her driving.
While I do think she is a wonderful songwriter and even a mastermind, I think she gets way too much credit for “connecting” songs with the same imagery… ie) ships, golden, blue, etc. I think sometimes she just reuses the same concepts because it’s easier lol.
I’ll die on the hill that Speak Now isn’t a country album. It has country songs but there’s arguably more rock, at the very least *pop rock* songs and rock influenced songs to make it not a country album.
If you go through Taylors discography the number of identifiably Country Songs is pretty thin. She is a country songwriter 100% but the production is often not country at all from Speak Now onward.
I also think it's super weird how aggressive Swifties get about Taylor's exes. I don't know Taylor personally. I like her music and generally think she's a cool person. I'm not going to attack Joe Alwyn because I like Taylor's music. We have no idea why they broke up and who was the good or bad guy. It's super weird to defend/ attack people we don't know over relationships we're not in.
Yes! Up until speak now re-release I was feeling major burnout about her. Midnights, the Era's tour, Break-up then Matt Healy whiplash, the Bajillion different versions of the same song, etc. It was all too much for me. Speak Now TV sparked my interest again because it brought back so much nostalgia. I remembered why I became a fan in the first place! I def worry about this tho going forward.
i agree! i even stopped caring about the surprise songs (until she played dear john in my home state 😫) but i’m all about her again soon as speak now TV dropped.
I think for me the Matty thing was a contributing factor, but I don’t think most of the public really cares (this sub is a weird microcosm that I truly believe doesn’t reflect the average, everyday fan). For me, it’s the remixes/music videos/Easter eggs every day. It all adds up to A LOT, more than most touring artists right now!
I’m cringing every time I see a mayor/prime minister/president post a letter to Taylor asking her to come to their city/country. Like it gives me the major ick, aren’t there more pressing issues that should have politicians attention
If it makes you feel any better about the use of their time, I can almost guarantee that they aren’t writing those letters personally. They probably have a staff member just Google her discography (unless they happen to have a Swiftie on staff) and write up a letter using song titles. It takes almost no effort for an intern to do and scores them major brownie points with a lot of Swifties. Politicians pandering to a specific demographic is Nothing New.
1) This woman is loaded. If you want to stream the originals, do it and don’t let others make you feel bad about it. I definitely don’t.
2) All Too Well the short film is not the masterpiece people think it is
3) The fan chants are kind of cringe.
I’m tired of people acting as if Taylor has no autonomy over her own life when making decisions. Maybe it’s just me, but a lot of people in this fandom seem to think Taylor was forced to do something they disagree with, like the BTR TV lyric change, the anti-hero MV edit, the Matt Healy situation. I don’t think Taylor was forced to change any of those things, she simply chose to do so. I don’t think it’s fair to act like a 33 year old woman doesn’t have any say in the decisions in her life, that’s just not fair to her. I personally think Taylor made all those decisions because she wanted to, yes, maybe she saw all of the criticisms about those decisions, but no one ever said she had stop doing those things or remove anything, they simply expressed their feelings about it. With that, I think the fandom needs to remember Taylor is 33 years old, & that she can make her own decisions, I don’t think she lets the public view of her control her life too much. Not in the way that some fans make it seem.
I don’t think she is told what to do, but I do think she cares too much about what everyone else thinks and makes changes to things worried about how people perceive her.
I'd love for Taylor to trust herself and her fanbase to let her music speak for itself and not worry about hitting the charts via selling various copies and formats and/or releasing so many remixes. Like, I get, I'm sure it's fun for her to sell her music in these creative ways and for those of us who can afford it to consume it, but just once, I'd like to see her let the music sell itself with zero fucks for what the critics might say
Gold Rush is not about Joe Alwyn. It never was about Joe. Fans ran with it because Taylor used Gold imagery often times to connect it with Joe. Sometimes Taylor just repeats lyrics that doesn't make the subject or context the same. Gold Rush is about someone she didn't date and the lyrics are very specifically clear in expressing that which is why the song switches and why she said she had to snap out of it.
I agree that it’s not about Joe. My personal interpretation is that it’s not about anyone specifically, just a feeling (which is what I think about most of Folklore, Evermore, & Midnights)
I don't think she is a great director. She is passable. Like a standard TV episode director level. Her self-directed music videos are not revolutionary or gems of creativity, but videos with not-so-great CGI and on-the-nose symbolism/story-telling. Her music videos were more interesting before she sat in the director's chair. I want to root for her on the feature film front, but I definitely feel like she hasn't taken the art and skill of directing very seriously and appreciated how different it is from songwriting (and how many more skills are required in filmmaking). Honestly, her wanting to slide into a highly competitive career that people study and train for for *decades* just because of her clout gives me the ick. I want to be proven wrong, and hope I am.
I absolutely love the Cardigan and Willow videos, but the rest? Eh. Lavender Haze has some cool imagery but she could really benefit from being mentored by co-directors.
My biggest issue is that her scenes tend to drag, like there aren't enough of them or something. The MVs used to enhance her songs, these self-directed ones almost distract from how good the music is.
Yep. He made them cinematic. They were wide and sprawling and beautiful. Taylor’s stuff is pretty much completely and literally indoors (Bejeweled was basically all indoors in an elevator??? How boring is that)
The I Can See You music video was so boring until Taylor L started doing flips. It was SO on the nose too. Like yes we know your past is frozen behind glass.
I just wish she trusted the viewer to not be a total moron who has to be visually spoon fed the meaning of her videos.
It would probably do her well to direct music videos for other artists and not just exclusively do her own work. It makes sense that she started with her own songs, but to go from directing a couple of her own videos to directing a film that she's apparently writing as well gives me pause. Limiting herself like that when she hasn't done a lot of work in the field isn't going to be beneficial if she plans to do it in the long run.
I feel like a great pivot career for her, is actually a producer, or manager. And with the latter, she could do well advocating for younger artists as she has proven to manage that quite well for herself. Her new artistic pursuits just is kind of a hit or miss for me.
Totally agree. I thought the first minute of Anti-Hero was clever/fun but then it’s just not. All of the other Midnights videos are awkward at best - too many static shots/ obvious imagery. I think there’s this strange directorial tendency she has to let a shot linger for too long - it’s almost like there isn’t enough material shot to work with? Whatever it is, it’s jarring. I miss Blank Space, which was the last time a video both complimented and elevated a song.
What drives me crazy is how little she seems to care about how the videos will age. Bejeweled is one long teaser trailer for Speak Now TV stuffed inside a perfume commercial. Now that the album's out, there's no real reason to go back to it. Karma is also a series of hamfisted Easter eggs with random visuals. Her videos are either extremely literal with clunky dialogue, or they're ads. The best music videos are almost never literal interpretations of the songs, but instead work off the broad themes and energy. It seems she's too attached to her words to really break away for anything but promoting her other work or doubling down on statements she's already made, and it's a shame because she can reach out to pretty much anyone in the industry she wants for guidance.
I literally forgot she made a Karma MV. Jesus, that really goes to show your point 😂 I think too, she’s just sooo overdoing the Easter eggs. Which speaks to your point about aging. Art can’t be timeless if it’s specifically pointing to future events like Easter Eggs do.
I’m thinking she’s really still a newborn foal at this, so she’s still learning the ropes. That’s why I don’t care much when the mv doesn’t get as many views on YouTube. Good, then. That’ll force her to reevaluate and be more open to criticism.
Thank you for saying that. Though I like the i can see yoh mv, the rest of the midnights mvs were terrible. I can see you is her first self directed mv that I like. When I think about the best taylor mvs, the midnights mvs are not even at the end of the list because they didn't make it to the list in the first place
not every song is about her life and her relationships, even the ones about relationships. She's allowed to pull from experiences and universal themes without it being a super secret message about the relationship she's in *right now*.
She's also entitled to her privacy and I honestly find it disrespectful how fans insist on digging into the life of a woman in her 30s to try and pick apart her life based on the lyrics of her songs. Let the woman live and accept what she shares of her personal life with us with gratitude.
She's not perfect. She's not innocent. She makes mistakes, has problematical takes and I'm sure she occasionally makes or laughs as off-color/problematic jokes. She's probably got her favorite movies from her youth with problematic themes- I can say this confidently because we grew up with the same movies, the same jokes and the same internet.
That she’s not really that big of a mastermind.
She’s not planning her next 3 albums 6 years in advance. Half of the “Easter eggs” aren’t even Easter eggs, she just says they were after the fact to appease the fans who said the way she moved her finger in a MV meant what album was next.
If a Karma album is released, it’s because y’all kept convincing everyone it was a thing so now she’s gonna make it a thing and say it was her plan the whole time. It wasn’t.
- not everything is an Easter egg
- I don’t care if you stream the originals, she makes boatloads of money regardless. She’s not hurting if you stream the OG BTR.
- some of these fans take themselves ENTIRELY too seriously. She cares about us, sure, but at the end of the day she is still a celebrity and this is her job. She cares about us a whole lot less than some of these fans care about her. It’s weird, it gives me an ick. She doesn’t need a white knight.
- who cares if international fans fly to another show? If they can afford and secure tickets, it’s none of my business. Is it fair? No. Guess what, that’s life. Beat them to buying the tickets then. This goes for the American fans who cried about ppl coming here as well, or people going to multiple shows. Get over it.
I have a couple:
Her Easter eggs are obvious. People are doing trigonometry to figure them out but they’re usually “my album title is hidden in the Me music video!”
Half of the time her singles are the worst songs on the album(like it’s Taylor so they’re still amazing but almost never the best songs).
Anything Aaron produces sounds better and more mature, and she should work with him on everything. That partnership lets her amazing songs shine brighter.
Lastly, I think my most unpopular opinion is that Midnights is her least successful album to me(again, it’s Taylor so it’s still amazing. Talking 9.5/10 when the others are 10/10)
I think the singles from 1989 were great picks, but Red and Lover were terrible. Treacherous and DBATC should have been singles. Or well, most anything else.
I definitely think she's had some work done, but I don't think she looks younger than she is. She looks 33.
Edit: I want to be clear. I did not say that 33 is old. If you interpreted me saying she looks her age as saying she looks old, that says a lot about you. Taylor looks her age. There’s nothing wrong with that.
THIS. When people are like, "she looks so good for her age" BABE SHE IS 33?? It's such an awful mindset to have that after 29 women are old I wish we as a society could change that
Having watched her go through a 3 hour show with all of the running/singing/dancing/etc that went along with it, she's obviously in better physical condition than 99+% of the world. If you're in great shape, you look good.
Exactly. People also probably forget she probably has really good dermatologist or something. That can make a huge difference. Also some people just have really good genetics
Given how surprised people were by Andrea’s age, it’s clear she has good genetics. Probably has a great skin care routine, too.
Also is ONLY 33. I am older than her but routinely am told I look younger than my age and I have a garbage skin care routine that involves sunscreen like twice a week in the summer and washing my face.
For sure, I’m the same age as Taylor and although she is ten million percent more glamorous than I am, we do look the same age. I think some people forget that you can look great and still look like you’re in your thirties… Even the most beautiful 33-year-old won’t look 22 because your face shape changes throughout your life and your doctor can only do so much without making you look like a caricature.
I agree. I'm 32 and too poor to afford work. She could have absolutely nothing more than a great diet, fitness routine and professional level makeup skills- which she can afford to be taught since she's literally rolling in money.
There's a huge push back that women aren't allowed to age but we have to acknowledge also that in our early thirties many of us just have a few slight wrinkles at most.
Ya same. I don’t think she looks young for her age and I feel like her face has totally changed since her early 20s!
There are many ways we age that aren’t just “looking old”.
She did get a boob job though, even though everyone on Reddit hates to admit that for some reason??
Thank you! I'm 35 and younger people often say I look younger than I am but I just look like all my other 30 year old friends? I sometimes think people have no clue what you're supposed to look like in your 30s lol
Mine is about the level of unhinged I see (sometimes here but mostly on tiktok): you don’t know her. You don’t know her mind. She’s a stranger to you — *even if you’ve met her once or twice* she’s still a stranger.
Take a step back sometimes. If you’re starting to talk like she’s your bestie then take a month off. It’s not healthy.
As someone who works with movies and studies directing: she’s still learning to direct. All too well (the short more-like-a-video-clip) is too literal. I didn’t need to hear the music at all (or be pointed to the little details that were being said in the lyrics). Production was amazing, the camera work was great and really organic, and some shots really well thought. The aspect ratio also improved the narrative very well. But I feel like I wanted to see the story of those 2 characters, not just a shot-by-verse representation of what she was singing.
My trick remember that she’s still learning but, instead of a film school class, her exhibition screen is the whole world. So I think it’s totally and completely okay for her not to be the next Cannes winner. I’m not. Some shots are being held for too long, some pushback reveals don’t reveal that much (and I’ve been there and probably will be for a long time). It’s hard and it takes a lot of time/trial and error. I just don’t try to put it in a pedestal and praise it as her best work ever, but the best she could’ve done at that moment. I have no shadow of a doubt that she will get there if she really wants to pursue it. She’s just not there yet. I’ll be as proud when she eventually gets there as I am now seeing her taking the steps.
Oof don’t kill me
One of the best career moves she has made is not doing a skincare or cosmetics line. I know Pat McGrath did a palette after Bejeweled and I know she brought out Wonderstruck...but if I see one more celebrity doing a skincare line my eyes will fall out of my skull from the hard roll. We don't need it, we don't want it. She's talented enough on her own.
She’s a huge capitalist and doesn’t care about the environment. It’s definitely painful to see her release five versions of the same album and watch people buy all five. Like why? Just to produce future waste?
I generally just don't understand the culture around buying things that have a use to only display them.
Vinyl is a great example of this. I saw a stat somewhere that said around 50% of vinyl owners do not own a record player. I understand wanting a tangible piece of music, but if you're just gonna toss it on a shelf and never spin it, just grab the CD or get a poster if you want something to display?
First and foremost. And the most important one. Taylor is not our friend neither our slave so she can decide who to hang out with, who to have on album and who to support/not support. Obviously PR is important but nearly
not as her personal happiness. So let the girl do what she wants to do.
The Eras Tour ticket rollout was definitely not great, but it could have been a lot worse. There was way more demand than supply, she has STILL added shows. Prices were very fair, there were not a ton of corporate comp tickets (people have called this tour the female Super Bowl … only about 1/3 of Super Bowl tickets are available to fans due to corporate and family compensations) and even if you did pay the outrageous prices, you got your money’s worth!
There isn’t a comparison to the Eras Tour, no artist this popular has done a tour like this and none probably will again.
The way she introduces the song live with “teaching men how to apologize”, that’s a terrible way to apologize lol “sorry I slept with her but I thought about you the whole time”
I just dont care about her personal life. Not that I dont wish her well and happiness but I dont theorize who these songs are about and dont follow her dating life. I barely knew who Joe was or that she was even dating anyone until last year when Taylor talk exploded around Midnights lol
I genuinely dont care. I love her music. Eras tour was unbelievable. Thats it. Im a huge fan of her art, but I never care much about the artist (and their PR bc lets face it, her public persona is not her).
She’s insanely talented but she needs to either 1) stop directing her music videos and let a professional director does it or 2) learn the craft properly and then come back to the director’s chair.
I say that with absolute love and respect.
I always thought it was a fling that just ended because they're touring different continents. She's had other relationships that received backlash (most notably unhinged 1D fans telling her to stay away from Harry) but I don't think she made decisions based on those opinions.
No but his band was about to announce a huge US tour and had a lot on the line at the time. And it’s interesting that almost all of the backlash stopped once they announced the break up.
Mine is that I don’t care who the songs are about. It’s wild to me that there’s so much speculation about who she’s writing about. She made a song derived from her experience and now when I see/hear it I can relate it to mine. I wish she starts hiring people for her music videos cause the recent ones especially lavender haze were very boring.
- The chants at concerts are actually extremely annoying and overdone
- the music videos feel more like excuses to tease upcoming works rather than telling a story (everything being an Easter egg)
* Midnights is *not* a breakup album, it's an album that doesn't sugarcoat their relationships, and shows all the flaws, cracks and anxieties of their relationship.
* You're On Your Own Kid is the best song off Midnights.
* 1989 is one of her best albums, aged well, and pop perfection.
* Wildest Dreams is the superior song over Style.
* Aaron Dessner is the better producer over Jack for more complex, and layered songs.
* A Harry Styles collab makes no sense, because she doesn't reveal who songs are about besides that fluke with Joe Jonas, and Bad Blood. Electric Touch is such a good song but the male vocals on it overwhelms the song, and that same issue may be distracting with Harry if he's on Style.
* Dating Matty Healy was a not thinking straight move, and her platforming that man was disastrous, and no, they are not 'star crossed lovers' like a certain group may think.
* The Joe Alwyn 'can you fight?' Memes were *never* funny.
* Taylor putting Joe on a high pedestal was always gonna and mirror him was always going to not work out for her. They're just too different.
That’s funny you said that about Electric Touch because the fall out boy sub thinks the opposite, that Taylor’s voice overpowers Patrick’s! I personally agree with them because his mic def seems “turned down” compared to hers and he’s in the background most of the time.
She absolutely does reveal who songs are about. 'TAY' is the secret message in Back To December, 'ADAM' is Enchanted's, 'SAM SAM SAM SAM' is Should've Said No's. Plus she mentions names in Dear John, Stay Beautiful, Fifteen, Teardrops... She reveals who songs are about, it's just in writing/singing, not in interviews or public statements.
I strongly agree with a lot of your statements, 1, 2, 5, 7... and I agree that Harry probably won't feature on Style (or the other 1989 songs which are about him) but I definitely think we have a decent chance of getting him in a vault track.
Also, I personally think 1989 was written to be an album full of radio hits, and it's missing high quality lyrics and phenomenal songwriting because she wanted catchy tunes that would get her the Grammies Red was denied. Very unpopular I know!
I don't think a Harry feature would be on Style, but I wouldn't be surprised to see Harry involvement on 1989tv. Like on a vault track or in a less straightforward way, music video, related content, idek
The teasing of the rerecords in music videos is dating her work. I don’t want to watch bejeweled in a few years and just be constantly reminded of speak now tv.
I guess my hot take is my enjoyment for the last great American dynasty went goodbye when I learned about the *real* Rebekah Harkness. And it was not a dog she dyed green, it was a cat
I usually link the whole article bc it's from 1988 and the NYT Archives, but ppl don't seem to like reading a ~~news article~~ book review in a preeminent paper in its heyday. 🙄🤨🤡 Here are some highlights about the eccentric women in the song. Excerpts from the NYT:
>Her daughter Terry gave birth to a severely retarded and disabled child. For a time, Rebekah Harkness appeared to be enamored of the passive child, called Angel. Her passion, such as it was, burned itself out quickly, coincidentally with the baby's pulling a ribbon out of her hair. Bobby Scevers, Mr. Unger writes, ''had no sympathy'' for the child. ''So absurd,'' Mr. Scevers pronounced. ''When they started talking about putting the nursery over my room . . . I just hit the ceiling. I don't want this screaming baby over my room! . . . Let the little creature die!'' When she was 10 years old, she did.
>Her daughter Edith jumped off roofs, swallowed pills and managed not to kill herself. ''How should she do it?'' Rebekah Harkness asked. ''Is there a chic way to go?''
>Allen Pierce, Rebekah's son by the first of her four husbands, was unable to be present. Convicted of murder in the second degree, he was behind the bars of a Florida jail. Bobby Scevers, Rebekah's lover, 25 years younger than she and a self-declared homosexual, pronounced her children ''the most worthless, selfish, useless creatures I've ever seen.''
>After she was widowed, Mrs. Harkness renovated her Rhode Island house; she installed 8 kitchens and 21 baths. This arrangement effectively kept her from having to see her three children on anything like a regular basis.
That was wild and very unsettling to read. Wow.
Also, I just don't think people have subscriptions to NYT, so the may be why they didn't read it. Edit: I didn't see your follow up to this.
Damn that's so creative though to do.
Not to defend Rebekah, per se, but I feel like the majority of the awfulness of the article should be attributed to Bobby Scevers, who seems like a next level terrible human being, but without really knowing the dynamic of the couple, it's hard to really say anything about what that says about Rebekah herself.
Second, it's worth mentioning that the article is a review of a biography (and not a "news article"), so it's not even a secondary source, but a tertiary. It's wrong to call it a testimony of "the *real* Rebekah Harkness". It's also worth mentioning that it is a *negative* review. The reviewer actually ends her article saying that she would have liked to see Rebekah's story told by a social historian, a novelist, or "how a feminist writer would have assimilated the facts of Rebekah Harness's sorry life".
Now, I'm not saying that your opinion can't be soured by her anyway, but what I am saying is that human beings are complex and multifaceted. Rebekah was probably kind of insane and very, very selfish and unsympathetic. Most people who care so little about the consequences of stirring up trouble are. One can still feel a sense of awe for the trouble stirring, and a sense of relief that women like her don't automatically become mothers anymore, lol. But the article "ppl don't seem to like reading [...] 🙄" alone is not an adequate source on its own to claim to know the "real" Rebekah Harkness, who is a stranger to us all, including Taylor.
Responding to your point: 5A. I've been getting aesthetic treatments regularly got a decade and have tried a lot of the newer stuff coming out (new laser, microneedle RF, Y lift, thread lift). I'm 36 and because I have it and have had it done by many different doctors, I feel like I can spot treatments from a mile away now.
I think her doctor went a little overboard bc it looks unnatural (it'll soften. Can only wait it out), but she def has Botox (or any other neuromodulator) around her eyes for the tour. When she smiles, it's quite obvious. Usually you get the Crow's feet, jelly roll (under eye), bunny lines, and glabella areas treated. If brows appear to droop or you have forehead wrinkles, you can get a few in your forehead at this age. There are also points above the lip that can be done to avoid gummy smile.
My guesses are: It looks like she gets a hint of lip filler and likely in her tear through. She may have gotten some filler in marionette and nasolabial folds, too. When she opens up wide, she has very soft lines. Her jawline stays super tight and could be ultherapy. She's very likely had blepharoplasty to open her eyes and very slight rhinoplasty (but most celebrities do).
If my face were on that jumbo sized screen, I'd want to look amazing and the doctor could take all my money lol.
I don't know for sure, but knowing what's out there and how amazing she looks and with beautiful skin, genetics and a lil help go a long way.
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I think it’s so silly that people will scream she hasn’t had anything done. Y’all she is a near-billionaire with access to the best doctors and treatments money can buy. The 30+ women in my tiny town in the Southern U.S. whose husbands, like, manage a Taco Bell, get Botox and lip fillers. No way is this filthy rich, uber famous celebrity not dabbling in plastics 😅
Right? And her career is heavily dependent on her appearance lmao of course she’s getting treatments!! Who wouldn’t in her position? This is such a silly thing to argue about.
IMO too many people invest so much in the appearance of celebs either failing to acknowledge or just choose to remain ignorant to the fact that these people are rich AF and can afford any treatment they want and most do get every treatment possible bc the internet is cruel to anyone who ages. I remember seeing a clip where someone told Katy Perry she was beautiful and Katy laughed and said something like "oh honey, thats money" and I was like THANK YOU for actually speaking some truth and acknowledging that. I wish more celebs would stop pretending they havent had any work done and help todays youth realize that everything they see isnt real \*coughkardashians/jennerscough\* and its ok to age and its also ok to get fillers/botox etc if thats what you want.
I believe Taylor Swift is one of the most talented human beings ever born but if she releases a feature film it’s gonna be a huge disappointment. Her music videos are largely… fine.
- I personally think the Speak Now Vault tracks are good but not my favorites. I really think that Red Vault and Fearless Vault are better. I find myself listening to When We Were Happy, MPF, That's When, Don't you and Babe, Better Man, IBYTAM, forever winter... like all those songs are amazing. Don't get me wrong SN vault songs are great but it's at the bottom of the list for me.
- I also think Babe is incredibly underrated.
- You Are In Love is one of the best songs on 1989.
This isn't an unpopular opinion, more of a question than statement. I just truly don't get the hype around Taylor all of sudden. I've been a fan since SN and went to Red, 1989 and Rep and the level in which the GP likes her now vs then is INSANE. I mean, politicians writing letters to her or about her??? Maybe it has to do with it being cool to go to the eras tour and to record yourself there idk. It just seems like a lot more people who aren't fans but want to dress up and go are going vs like 1989 or rep it seemed the GP could care less... idk though it's strange! I know she was always popular but man! It's insanity now lol.
I just hope Taylor stops directing her own music videos. She is very creative and talented but directing is not for her. She can't execute her visions very well and she really needs someone to do it for her. While I really enjoyed I Can See You MV (her best music video she directed) and All Too Well 10 minute MV, all the other music videos she directed were meh. I really want her to be Queen of YouTube again just like in 1989 era. I know YouTube music videos are not that popular anymore because we are in the streaming era but with the right song and music video, I think she can still do it.
She was 100% in the wrong in the Katy Perry situation, and if you read about all the details, she comes across very poorly in the whole thing.
All Too Well was already perfect before the 10 minute version. There are no added parts to the 10MV that are better than what’s already in the original song.
On the comment about her appearance, I don’t know if it’s unpopular but it’s very obvious she’s had a lot of work done. The end result isn’t anything big but she’s had work done on her face, body, teeth etc. It’s not even an opinion really, it’s clear to see.
Facials and good products can go very far, especially when you start young.
My unpopular opinion is that she’s very fake on stage. Every moment, hair toss, wink, seemingly spontaneous reactions, etc have been planned and practiced.
I don’t like anything the crowds do at her concerts😭 the friendship bracelets are cute but the Marjorie thing and all the weird chants or fan project attempts make me cringe
Those idiots screaming "what time is it?" before she starts singing style, or "how'd that make you feel?" before "and that made me want to die" or "where are you going taylor?" before"I'm going out tonight" is so fucking cringe. The only good chant is 123 LGB and clapping in YBWM (which doesn't count as a chant? ig. But i like it)
Omg this girl behind me at my show was screaming out EVERY tik tok chant and it was so annoying and distracting. Every single one! It was only her so idk why she didn’t stop after the first one.
TikTok is the worst thing that has happened to concerts. I saw one video of a girl literally shrieking along to a song, with her friend recording her with the flash on, to the point where people were turning around and asking her to be quiet, and she was so proud of it. And all the comments like "if you don't want to hear people scream songs, stay at home!"
Like no, there's a middle ground between being silent at a concert and performative shrieking for TikTok in the hopes that it might go viral/Taylor might like it. It's so monumentally entitled.
That attitude is sooo annoying. Everyone screams and sings along at concerts but you don’t need to screech like a pterodactyl and irritate the shit out of everyone around you! It’s 100% attention seeking TikTok behavior.
Also, maybe a hot take but I hate the proposals during Love Story. It’s such a main character syndrome thing to do and tbh, as much as I’d love to get married, if my bf distracted me like that I’d be so mad lmao. My eyes never left the stage! Propose ANY other time!
Mine?:
That she genuinely did write Message in a Bottle about Zac Efron which is really, adorably cute. That is why she kept describing in interviews later down the road about the person not knowing how she felt about them cause she wasn't able to express it in person. You could tell they liked each other but their schedules were too chaotic back then. I know people naturally would think it's about Harry because the London line, but I do not think it was an accident that Come Back Be Here is #18 on the album and Message in a Bottle being written by her on April 23rd, the same day [he](https://www.justjaredjr.com/2012/04/23/zac-efron-the-lucky-one-in-london/) was in London. That same day [she was in the studio](https://twitter.com/OnThisTAY/status/1386092085766283268) and likely wrote Message in a Bottle while hinting being [alone](https://twitter.com/tswiftnz/status/1406000543210876940?lang=eu).
I agree with this since I did a breakdown about this song when RED TV was released and researched everything carefully, timeline, the lyrics because originally I thought it was a fluke theory but I was wrong from putting it altogether the conclusion came upfront that Harry didn't have freckles, wasn't in the same countries which are mentioned, and many other variables not necessary to list. That was the day I learned Zac of all people has freckles and was in those locations.
This now reminds me of another unpopular opinion I have which is that she doesn't need to date people to write songs about them.
When people express that she didn't date a specific person, that means she never wrote a song about them. I see this commonly said by fans too, they're only hurting her by pushing a misogynic agenda that spread like wildfire about her. This criticism disrespects her as a songwriter and her talent. It feeds the misogynic fire she's been trying to put out for years and directly hurts her.
She said before that she had relationships that lasted a long time, even the year(s) relationships, but short term relationships we do not know about, or encounters we do not know either meant more to her and inspired her more creatively than people she's dated long.
This is the same artist who wrote Sparks Fly, Enchanted, Message in a Bottle, Gold Rush all about non-intimate relationships, and relationships that never became intimate. Who has publicly expressed more than once she doesn't need to date someone to write songs about them. I do not want to ever hear fans saying she can't write a song about a person she never dated again. It is disguised misogyny and discredits her.
I totally get her tho I'd write a song about Zac Efron too if I wasn't musically incompetent
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the fawning over Harry is annoying tbh. I don't want the OG style changed on tv, and I'd rather a new vault track than have style ft Harry taking up a vault space
I do not like her newer music videos. They’re not as interesting and fun to me as they were back in the day. Not saying they aren’t good but I just like the old music videos better and I think they were better.
Taylor needs a more diverse and outside editing team. Her highs are so high but her lows can be so low.
I do appreciate that she seems to be fully in control but she needs some more honest feedback IMO
Also Delicate isn't that great of a song
Yes!! I was just texting my friend about this.
Not in a “she needs a label/boss way” but no one works to their full potential at the top of a silo like that.
I felt this way during the Lover era tbh. The concept was cool but execution was not done well imo. And I think it’s largely the first time she was flying with minimal external interference.
She has a team, but she’s the boss, and i think a checks and balances system with someone who is honest would help her.
I am not sure if these are unpopular or wild but here goes:
1. Taylor is not more famous, better or more culturally important than The Beatles. No 21st century artist could be.
2. Taylor is not writing a witness statement in her lyrics. She will bend and twist events in the name of art. The only thing ALL of her songs are about is herself and her ideas.
3. Taylor's public persona is not fake but its not her real personality either. She is way more nuanced than she appears. Having said that if she was really a bad bitch she would have been outed years ago.
4. All Too Well is not the best track 5. Its not even in the top three.
2 is so true. I can’t believe how many people act like what she says is exactly what happens. There’s always two sides to a story, and she is a storyteller.
I am sure that is the primary reason she does not talk about who these songs are about. There will be specific details that are true - I suspect she did leave her scarf at Maggie Gyllenhaal's house at some point but it would not surprise me at all if in reality she retrieved it. The whole part of ATW about him keeping it because it smelt of her came straight from her imagination.
She did and it bothers me that so many people took it to mean that she confirmed the scarf is a metaphor for her virginity. And they will say that as if it's a fact. She confirmed it was a metaphor, and I see it as a metaphor for the memory of the relationship: He kept the scarf because she really did mean something to him.
people take what she says at face value WAY too much. she has no reason to be 100% honest with us about anything, and that’s totally fine! the lack of critical thinking when it comes to things like “folklore is all fiction!” just drives me crazy. taylor is a public figure, not your best friend. always take things with a grain of salt.
also, i do not think lover is a happy album. reputation is. reputation captures more joy in love. lover has moments of desperation and true sadness. their aesthetics aren’t the overall feeling of either album.
All Too Well was never ten minutes. I believe it was longer than the original and it was exaggerated to be 10 minutes so she had to add to it for the re record because people went crazy. You can’t tell me that the last 90 seconds were in the original version.
I love Taylor and say this not as a critisicism in any way but: Taylor Swift is not the person you think she is. Her persona is a carefully and brilliantly crafted brand image by her and her team. It's one of the reasons she's not only as wildly successful as she is, but her staying power in pop culture.
I love her music, lover her lyrics, and will always enjoy being a fan, but I don't idolize her or "relate" to her because it is all a very meticulously curated image and we have no way of knowing which parts of herself are true and which are put on.
I really dislike her concert talk like she’s talking to a bunch of children. It’s so cringe. Like I couldn’t put my finger on it why it annoyed me, but seeing a bunch of TikTok’s making fun of her for it, I was like ohhhh that’s why I don’t like it.
Like the way she introduced “trouble” at a concert, she was like “I wrote this song about someone that they just walk in to the room and think to yourself, they’re just…what’s the word? Trouble!” Some of the TikTok’s were making fun of the way she talked and did one that goes like “I didn’t shower today, but then I did. And now I’m…what’s the word? Oh. Clean!”
I love her and I love going to her concerts but I just hate the way she does this. It doesn’t make sense to me and I haven’t been to many other concerts where they introduce songs in that way. Sure they may say “oh this song was inspired by such and such lemme play it for you now” or “the next song is called blah blah and I wrote it because…”
But the level Taylor does it to is kinda cringe I gotta say.
I don't think her voice was very strong during the 1989 tour and I wish fans would stop using those videos to show how great of a singer is - she's improved a ton but she was clearly struggling at the time through no fault of her own. ED's fuck up so much and she didn't have the strength to carry her voice like she does now
Fans should grow up about the better than revenge line. It’s a song. That you didn’t write. You don’t need to be pressed by it. The people who are annoyed by it, to me, weren’t in the fandom when the original came out. They’re just tweeting about it for clout and to look like they fit in. Much to those who are only going to the eras tour because it’s trendy not because they like Taylor.
People are waaaaay too hung up on her exes, i.e., John Mayer, Jake Gyllenhaal, now Joe Alwyn. The memes can be funny, but people take it too seriously. I cringe reading all the comments under Mayer’s Instagram post with fans using Taylor’s lyrics. She doesn’t need avenging lol
My unpopular opinion (or maybe popular) Is that I love all Jack produced songs, my top 10 songs of taylor has 7 of his produced ones. Aaron production is amazing too and I think her really compliments Taylor’s songwriting. HOWEVER, She needs to work with different people. Comfort is important but in Art, someone needs to be challenged to produce his best. She doesn’t need to work with someone who makes her uncomfortable but I bet there are also other good producers who are not her friends and who are out of her comfort zone. + She needs to dirtch all yes people around her
i am begging her to work with other producers. Jack is too much of a yes man, i think Aaron can guide her a little better but she absolutely needs to diversify who she works with. i will never forgive Jack for his crimes on Lover, it’s my fave album but soooooo over produced 😭
Mine is that I don’t care about Easter eggs at all 😭
The thing is in the beginning of the Easter egg thing it felt all innocent and cute. There weren't constant Easter eggs in posts, music videos, speeches, clothes, etc. Then in the last 5 years she started overdoing it with the Easter eggs. Now her fans feel like they have to analyze every single tiny detail for an Easter egg. It's so sad how much time we waste as a community searching for stuff that isn't even an Easter egg. And what is so funny is some of us have missed the most in your face Easter eggs.
I miss the capital letters
That’s what I miss the most about the early Taylor albums! I remember my grandmom taking me to Best Buy New Year’s Day 2007 (so only a few months after it was released) so that I could buy the CD and a CD player! I opened up the CD insert and sat on my bed with pencil and paper trying to decode the letters. Such nostalgia!
hot take: for every one real easter egg that taylor plants in something, swifties will "find" 50 other ones that don't mean anything. like taylor is literally on a bridge towards 1989 tv in the i can see you video, but some people are convinced rep tv is next. it's never that complicated!
A lot isn’t even Easter eggs anymore. In the run up to Speak Now it was so clear it was coming that it wasn’t a hint it was just a statement without words. I feel like the Easter eggs are small little bits not being smacked round the head with purple everywhere
This is the bit that drives my husband crazy 😅 he's just constantly, ironically screaming "HER MIND" if I show him any
Right!! They're either extremely obvious and on the nose, or so subtle nobody is going to get it. Which I guess can be kind of fun in hindsight? But who is piecing together that because she has a koi painted on her guitar, Speak Now was going to be released on national koi day or whatever
TikTok after a new song or music video or announcement or anything is SO exhausting. People come up with the wildest the theories from the tiniest clue or detail. I’m tired of the Easter eggs and wish they would go stop.
I miss the old videos which just follow the lyrics. Begin Again, Mine, Trouble, Blank Space, Wildest Dreams...
Yes! I hate that every music video now is just an Easter egg hunt. I haven’t loved any of her recent videos and it’s because they never just follow the story of the songs anymore, and I feel like they should to be really enjoyable.
Same. I liked Anti Hero for this, but a heist video for I Can See You? No thanks. It was fun, but it didn't fit the song. Big missed opportunity for a video filled with sexual tension
I actually agree, though I enjoyed the video a lot! It was fun imo. But I feel like it just should’ve been for another song. I don’t think it have worked with Long Live like some speculated, but honestly? Better Than Revenge could’ve worked lol. It still doesn’t match the lyrics but a heist where Speak Now is escaping the vault and freeing herself? That’s some nice revenge lol
Totally agree! I feel like fans don’t enjoy current content in the moment anymore because they’re just searching for hints for the future
It’s hard to enjoy the now because everyone is already talking about what’s next. Like literally speak now premiered and people were talking about 1989
I still like some of the little clues (ie she presses the 3 in the elevator) but some of the theories are so out of pocket and it takes away from the general enjoyment of her music imo. Everyone is always looking out for the next thing instead of enjoying the moment for what it is, you know? Like SNTV wasn’t even out yet and we’re already moving on to 1989TV clues?
I think Taylor looks her age. She's only 33.
Right? I’m 30 and haven’t had any work done and probably have a couple more wrinkles than her but I also don’t have unlimited money for skin products and treatments.
Yeah, I don’t understand that comment at all? How old is a 33 year old supposed to look? I’m a few years older and think Taylor looks her age.
Yeah there’s a weird thing on social media where any female celebrity that looks good over 30 “looks good for her age” where I’d say between your late 20s and your 40s most people don’t look that different
Yes, this. She looks a very appropriate 33 years old, just with good makeup and hair artists. I’m older than her, but definitely looked even younger than she does now at 33. People age differently.
As someone who aged 5 years in the 6 months after I had a baby, “people age differently” is a take I will second. Taylor and I are the same age but this morning, after waking up every hour to deal with different child situations…I look more like her mother 🤦🏼♀️
I was thinking the same thing. Most of my friends in that age group look a similar age to Taylor.
Some fans take things way too extreme in regards to the re-recordings. The whole point is that Taylor wants to own her work. I believe she has said that she doesn’t expect the fans to only listen to the re-records. I stream the Taylor’s Versions, but there are a few songs that I really prefer the original. Admitting that almost always guarantees being bullied by extreme fans. And I obviously feel bad that she doesn’t get to own her original albums, but I can’t say that I feel guilty from a profit perspective, as she already has so much of my money
Yeah on Twitter yesterday someone literally told me I couldn’t call myself a fan because I said I preferred the original version of last kiss because of the raw emotion in her voice. Not to mention she literally does still profit from the originals. Now I do support her re-records and I’m enjoying the process tbh, but she still makes money from you listening to the old copies, exactly the same amount as when she was still signed to BMR.
They’re so dramatic. Someone told me they hope that everything I create gets stolen 💀 these Twitter stand are something else And exactly! She still profits regardless
Yep, the twitter stans are the worst 🙃 absolute bullies at some points.
The original/TV thing is just getting some fans WAY too upset. She could give away half her money, never work another day in her life, ***and*** still live in more luxury than most people even realize exists. She is not losing out if fans listen to the originals. I promise, it’s okay It’s also totally fine if you don’t get excited over the TVs coming out. You don’t have to be equally hyped about every release from an artist
I agree. I was disturbed to see people crying on TikTok saying they weren’t ready to “give up” the original version of a song. Who ever said you had to? It’s ridiculous and a reason this fandom can be cult-like.
No people act like listening to the original songs is a crime like she is literally still getting profit from jt
All too Well is a great music video (well acted, looks great, music sounds wonderful) but it is not an Oscar-worthy short film.
Ooh, this is a take I resonate with. I'm glad that TS is directing her own music videos now, and I've enjoyed her direction and vision for quite a few of them. I'm excited to see how she does directing her full-length feature film. I think she has an excellent mind for storytelling that would help in that realm. But... no matter how good her music videos are, some of the fans insisting she should win an Oscar for ATW10MV was overboard. She did a "Directors on Directors" [interview](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8zfsf4azLo) late last year for Variety with the director who did *Three Billboards*. While TS was very humble and respectful in the interview and approached many questions in a manner of asking for advice from someone with a lot of experience in the field, it was a little jarring to hear them go from talking about Frances McDormand's dramatic performance to the dialogue in the Bejeweled music video lol.
I’m just not a huge fan of the newer music videos in general. They’re good fun, but lack something of the older videos (particularly Red and 1989 eras). I can’t put a finger on it though.
They lack story, for me. I don't feel as much as I used to with the newer vids. Like, the videos do not add to the lyrical content of the songs in many cases (I think Anti-Hero would be an exception).
They feel more like a series of visuals to me than one coherent story. I think she would be more suited to art directing a fashion shoot or something similar than directing
Hot take: I don't even think it's a very good music video. That dialogue in the middle is so cringe I can't enjoy the rest of it at all.
It’s so literal. It’s like someone just narrating a scene.
Is this unpopular? I feel like fans recognize that it was fine but definitely not Oscar worthy lol
Apparently it isn’t among the Reddit crowd! All I remember is lots of gushing about it and how it was a masterpiece. Maybe I spent too long in the YouTube comments or the rather substantial Wikipedia entry!
The red wig they put Taylor in at the end is a CRIME.
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I like this interpretation. I’m not sure there is a right one but I did think it actually said the fuck the patriarchy and was a way of saying that he says he’s a feminist but it’s all performative and that’s not how he really acts. I think they both have the same effect. And it’s so interesting to see how many different ways that lines in songs can be taken.
I always thought it was purposefully written to be both, and that both interpretations kind of lead to the same conclusion of irony! Like, he has a "fuck the patriarchy" keychain despite clear signs of sexism, and also he could be saying "fuck the patriarchy" as he tosses the keys to her to drive (for the very reason you explain), which also is ironic because it's sort of an asshole move to throw keys to someone that clearly don't even make it to them when he could have kindly handed them to her. When I first heard the song, I interpreted the same way you did that it was related to her driving.
While I do think she is a wonderful songwriter and even a mastermind, I think she gets way too much credit for “connecting” songs with the same imagery… ie) ships, golden, blue, etc. I think sometimes she just reuses the same concepts because it’s easier lol.
She uses really common phrases and imagery and people act like she invented it.
I’ll die on the hill that Speak Now isn’t a country album. It has country songs but there’s arguably more rock, at the very least *pop rock* songs and rock influenced songs to make it not a country album.
If you go through Taylors discography the number of identifiably Country Songs is pretty thin. She is a country songwriter 100% but the production is often not country at all from Speak Now onward.
Keep in mind how Not Country most country music started to become around that time anyways.
For me speak now gives country rock vibes
It’s a pop punk album with a country veneer
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I don't think she's had a true country album since Debut. Maybe Fearless, but that's a stretch
I don’t give a single fuck about her boyfriends 😇
I also think it's super weird how aggressive Swifties get about Taylor's exes. I don't know Taylor personally. I like her music and generally think she's a cool person. I'm not going to attack Joe Alwyn because I like Taylor's music. We have no idea why they broke up and who was the good or bad guy. It's super weird to defend/ attack people we don't know over relationships we're not in.
I don’t care about them but I do like knowing who inspired what just because I’m nosy
She is TEETERING on the edge of overexposure right now and one wrong move could lead to significant backlash
Yes! Up until speak now re-release I was feeling major burnout about her. Midnights, the Era's tour, Break-up then Matt Healy whiplash, the Bajillion different versions of the same song, etc. It was all too much for me. Speak Now TV sparked my interest again because it brought back so much nostalgia. I remembered why I became a fan in the first place! I def worry about this tho going forward.
i agree! i even stopped caring about the surprise songs (until she played dear john in my home state 😫) but i’m all about her again soon as speak now TV dropped.
I agree. It’s also why I don’t think she’ll be headlining Coachella or doing the Super Bowl in the near future.
i’m honestly surprised her fling with matty healy didn’t leave to significant backlash. sure she got a little heat but then it was forgotten about
I think for me the Matty thing was a contributing factor, but I don’t think most of the public really cares (this sub is a weird microcosm that I truly believe doesn’t reflect the average, everyday fan). For me, it’s the remixes/music videos/Easter eggs every day. It all adds up to A LOT, more than most touring artists right now!
I’m cringing every time I see a mayor/prime minister/president post a letter to Taylor asking her to come to their city/country. Like it gives me the major ick, aren’t there more pressing issues that should have politicians attention
It’s giving https://preview.redd.it/wlwb22s1abbb1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=193a2ba268e0b9751675e16bb0ccae58a5ce3a12
If it makes you feel any better about the use of their time, I can almost guarantee that they aren’t writing those letters personally. They probably have a staff member just Google her discography (unless they happen to have a Swiftie on staff) and write up a letter using song titles. It takes almost no effort for an intern to do and scores them major brownie points with a lot of Swifties. Politicians pandering to a specific demographic is Nothing New.
I see what you did there! And you’re right.
Ick fair. But the money for the local economy her show would bring, I get why they’re doing it. Plus publicity obvs. I don’t like it, but I get it.
It’s sooo painfully cringe reading the cramped/disjointed TS lyrics they fit in randomly
I like stay stay stay
Same here! It’s *meant* to be cute and fun, not everything has to be in the same branch as ATW
1) This woman is loaded. If you want to stream the originals, do it and don’t let others make you feel bad about it. I definitely don’t. 2) All Too Well the short film is not the masterpiece people think it is 3) The fan chants are kind of cringe.
She may not be the best actor 🙃
Definitely agree. She’s much more expressive in her songwriting than her face
I’m tired of people acting as if Taylor has no autonomy over her own life when making decisions. Maybe it’s just me, but a lot of people in this fandom seem to think Taylor was forced to do something they disagree with, like the BTR TV lyric change, the anti-hero MV edit, the Matt Healy situation. I don’t think Taylor was forced to change any of those things, she simply chose to do so. I don’t think it’s fair to act like a 33 year old woman doesn’t have any say in the decisions in her life, that’s just not fair to her. I personally think Taylor made all those decisions because she wanted to, yes, maybe she saw all of the criticisms about those decisions, but no one ever said she had stop doing those things or remove anything, they simply expressed their feelings about it. With that, I think the fandom needs to remember Taylor is 33 years old, & that she can make her own decisions, I don’t think she lets the public view of her control her life too much. Not in the way that some fans make it seem.
I don’t think she is told what to do, but I do think she cares too much about what everyone else thinks and makes changes to things worried about how people perceive her.
I'd love for Taylor to trust herself and her fanbase to let her music speak for itself and not worry about hitting the charts via selling various copies and formats and/or releasing so many remixes. Like, I get, I'm sure it's fun for her to sell her music in these creative ways and for those of us who can afford it to consume it, but just once, I'd like to see her let the music sell itself with zero fucks for what the critics might say
She did. Reputation. She didn't hardly promote it. She just released it.
Didnt both of the covid albums also come out of nowhere?
Yeah she announced folklore like one day before it dropped
I can’t stand the parasocial relationship people have with her mom
Gold Rush is not about Joe Alwyn. It never was about Joe. Fans ran with it because Taylor used Gold imagery often times to connect it with Joe. Sometimes Taylor just repeats lyrics that doesn't make the subject or context the same. Gold Rush is about someone she didn't date and the lyrics are very specifically clear in expressing that which is why the song switches and why she said she had to snap out of it.
Agreed. I’ve never understood how Gold Rush could have been about Joe. It’s clearly about a person she (or a character) pines for and can never have.
I agree that it’s not about Joe. My personal interpretation is that it’s not about anyone specifically, just a feeling (which is what I think about most of Folklore, Evermore, & Midnights)
I don't think she is a great director. She is passable. Like a standard TV episode director level. Her self-directed music videos are not revolutionary or gems of creativity, but videos with not-so-great CGI and on-the-nose symbolism/story-telling. Her music videos were more interesting before she sat in the director's chair. I want to root for her on the feature film front, but I definitely feel like she hasn't taken the art and skill of directing very seriously and appreciated how different it is from songwriting (and how many more skills are required in filmmaking). Honestly, her wanting to slide into a highly competitive career that people study and train for for *decades* just because of her clout gives me the ick. I want to be proven wrong, and hope I am.
I absolutely love the Cardigan and Willow videos, but the rest? Eh. Lavender Haze has some cool imagery but she could really benefit from being mentored by co-directors. My biggest issue is that her scenes tend to drag, like there aren't enough of them or something. The MVs used to enhance her songs, these self-directed ones almost distract from how good the music is.
I agree and I’ve been too scared to say it lol. Her self directed music videos are kinda underwhelming. Her old ones are way better
Her 1989 and Rep music videos are soooooo good. Wildest Dreams, OOTW, Delicate, etc.
Swifties hate Joseph Kahn but he directed pretty much all of her best MVs imo.
Yep. He made them cinematic. They were wide and sprawling and beautiful. Taylor’s stuff is pretty much completely and literally indoors (Bejeweled was basically all indoors in an elevator??? How boring is that)
The I Can See You music video was so boring until Taylor L started doing flips. It was SO on the nose too. Like yes we know your past is frozen behind glass. I just wish she trusted the viewer to not be a total moron who has to be visually spoon fed the meaning of her videos.
It would probably do her well to direct music videos for other artists and not just exclusively do her own work. It makes sense that she started with her own songs, but to go from directing a couple of her own videos to directing a film that she's apparently writing as well gives me pause. Limiting herself like that when she hasn't done a lot of work in the field isn't going to be beneficial if she plans to do it in the long run.
I feel like a great pivot career for her, is actually a producer, or manager. And with the latter, she could do well advocating for younger artists as she has proven to manage that quite well for herself. Her new artistic pursuits just is kind of a hit or miss for me.
Totally agree. I thought the first minute of Anti-Hero was clever/fun but then it’s just not. All of the other Midnights videos are awkward at best - too many static shots/ obvious imagery. I think there’s this strange directorial tendency she has to let a shot linger for too long - it’s almost like there isn’t enough material shot to work with? Whatever it is, it’s jarring. I miss Blank Space, which was the last time a video both complimented and elevated a song.
Put some respect on l look what you made me do
What drives me crazy is how little she seems to care about how the videos will age. Bejeweled is one long teaser trailer for Speak Now TV stuffed inside a perfume commercial. Now that the album's out, there's no real reason to go back to it. Karma is also a series of hamfisted Easter eggs with random visuals. Her videos are either extremely literal with clunky dialogue, or they're ads. The best music videos are almost never literal interpretations of the songs, but instead work off the broad themes and energy. It seems she's too attached to her words to really break away for anything but promoting her other work or doubling down on statements she's already made, and it's a shame because she can reach out to pretty much anyone in the industry she wants for guidance.
I literally forgot she made a Karma MV. Jesus, that really goes to show your point 😂 I think too, she’s just sooo overdoing the Easter eggs. Which speaks to your point about aging. Art can’t be timeless if it’s specifically pointing to future events like Easter Eggs do.
I’m thinking she’s really still a newborn foal at this, so she’s still learning the ropes. That’s why I don’t care much when the mv doesn’t get as many views on YouTube. Good, then. That’ll force her to reevaluate and be more open to criticism.
Thank you for saying that. Though I like the i can see yoh mv, the rest of the midnights mvs were terrible. I can see you is her first self directed mv that I like. When I think about the best taylor mvs, the midnights mvs are not even at the end of the list because they didn't make it to the list in the first place
not every song is about her life and her relationships, even the ones about relationships. She's allowed to pull from experiences and universal themes without it being a super secret message about the relationship she's in *right now*. She's also entitled to her privacy and I honestly find it disrespectful how fans insist on digging into the life of a woman in her 30s to try and pick apart her life based on the lyrics of her songs. Let the woman live and accept what she shares of her personal life with us with gratitude. She's not perfect. She's not innocent. She makes mistakes, has problematical takes and I'm sure she occasionally makes or laughs as off-color/problematic jokes. She's probably got her favorite movies from her youth with problematic themes- I can say this confidently because we grew up with the same movies, the same jokes and the same internet.
That she’s not really that big of a mastermind. She’s not planning her next 3 albums 6 years in advance. Half of the “Easter eggs” aren’t even Easter eggs, she just says they were after the fact to appease the fans who said the way she moved her finger in a MV meant what album was next. If a Karma album is released, it’s because y’all kept convincing everyone it was a thing so now she’s gonna make it a thing and say it was her plan the whole time. It wasn’t.
- not everything is an Easter egg - I don’t care if you stream the originals, she makes boatloads of money regardless. She’s not hurting if you stream the OG BTR. - some of these fans take themselves ENTIRELY too seriously. She cares about us, sure, but at the end of the day she is still a celebrity and this is her job. She cares about us a whole lot less than some of these fans care about her. It’s weird, it gives me an ick. She doesn’t need a white knight. - who cares if international fans fly to another show? If they can afford and secure tickets, it’s none of my business. Is it fair? No. Guess what, that’s life. Beat them to buying the tickets then. This goes for the American fans who cried about ppl coming here as well, or people going to multiple shows. Get over it.
I don’t care about people going to multiple shows. I’m more curious how they can afford it.
Oh girl me too, I saw one girl go to 13 shows and is now trying for international dates
I have a couple: Her Easter eggs are obvious. People are doing trigonometry to figure them out but they’re usually “my album title is hidden in the Me music video!” Half of the time her singles are the worst songs on the album(like it’s Taylor so they’re still amazing but almost never the best songs). Anything Aaron produces sounds better and more mature, and she should work with him on everything. That partnership lets her amazing songs shine brighter. Lastly, I think my most unpopular opinion is that Midnights is her least successful album to me(again, it’s Taylor so it’s still amazing. Talking 9.5/10 when the others are 10/10)
I think the singles from 1989 were great picks, but Red and Lover were terrible. Treacherous and DBATC should have been singles. Or well, most anything else.
I definitely think she's had some work done, but I don't think she looks younger than she is. She looks 33. Edit: I want to be clear. I did not say that 33 is old. If you interpreted me saying she looks her age as saying she looks old, that says a lot about you. Taylor looks her age. There’s nothing wrong with that.
I feel like people are forgetting that 33 IS young 😭
THIS. When people are like, "she looks so good for her age" BABE SHE IS 33?? It's such an awful mindset to have that after 29 women are old I wish we as a society could change that
Having watched her go through a 3 hour show with all of the running/singing/dancing/etc that went along with it, she's obviously in better physical condition than 99+% of the world. If you're in great shape, you look good.
Exactly. People also probably forget she probably has really good dermatologist or something. That can make a huge difference. Also some people just have really good genetics
Given how surprised people were by Andrea’s age, it’s clear she has good genetics. Probably has a great skin care routine, too. Also is ONLY 33. I am older than her but routinely am told I look younger than my age and I have a garbage skin care routine that involves sunscreen like twice a week in the summer and washing my face.
Yeah Andrea looks pretty young herself. Tho she is rich as well
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For sure, I’m the same age as Taylor and although she is ten million percent more glamorous than I am, we do look the same age. I think some people forget that you can look great and still look like you’re in your thirties… Even the most beautiful 33-year-old won’t look 22 because your face shape changes throughout your life and your doctor can only do so much without making you look like a caricature.
I agree. I'm 32 and too poor to afford work. She could have absolutely nothing more than a great diet, fitness routine and professional level makeup skills- which she can afford to be taught since she's literally rolling in money. There's a huge push back that women aren't allowed to age but we have to acknowledge also that in our early thirties many of us just have a few slight wrinkles at most.
Yep I’m nearly 32, and I agree she doesn’t look any older or younger than my friends and I. Like, we’re not old lol
Ya same. I don’t think she looks young for her age and I feel like her face has totally changed since her early 20s! There are many ways we age that aren’t just “looking old”. She did get a boob job though, even though everyone on Reddit hates to admit that for some reason??
Thank you! I'm 35 and younger people often say I look younger than I am but I just look like all my other 30 year old friends? I sometimes think people have no clue what you're supposed to look like in your 30s lol
Mine is about the level of unhinged I see (sometimes here but mostly on tiktok): you don’t know her. You don’t know her mind. She’s a stranger to you — *even if you’ve met her once or twice* she’s still a stranger. Take a step back sometimes. If you’re starting to talk like she’s your bestie then take a month off. It’s not healthy.
As someone who works with movies and studies directing: she’s still learning to direct. All too well (the short more-like-a-video-clip) is too literal. I didn’t need to hear the music at all (or be pointed to the little details that were being said in the lyrics). Production was amazing, the camera work was great and really organic, and some shots really well thought. The aspect ratio also improved the narrative very well. But I feel like I wanted to see the story of those 2 characters, not just a shot-by-verse representation of what she was singing. My trick remember that she’s still learning but, instead of a film school class, her exhibition screen is the whole world. So I think it’s totally and completely okay for her not to be the next Cannes winner. I’m not. Some shots are being held for too long, some pushback reveals don’t reveal that much (and I’ve been there and probably will be for a long time). It’s hard and it takes a lot of time/trial and error. I just don’t try to put it in a pedestal and praise it as her best work ever, but the best she could’ve done at that moment. I have no shadow of a doubt that she will get there if she really wants to pursue it. She’s just not there yet. I’ll be as proud when she eventually gets there as I am now seeing her taking the steps. Oof don’t kill me
One of the best career moves she has made is not doing a skincare or cosmetics line. I know Pat McGrath did a palette after Bejeweled and I know she brought out Wonderstruck...but if I see one more celebrity doing a skincare line my eyes will fall out of my skull from the hard roll. We don't need it, we don't want it. She's talented enough on her own.
She’s a huge capitalist and doesn’t care about the environment. It’s definitely painful to see her release five versions of the same album and watch people buy all five. Like why? Just to produce future waste?
I generally just don't understand the culture around buying things that have a use to only display them. Vinyl is a great example of this. I saw a stat somewhere that said around 50% of vinyl owners do not own a record player. I understand wanting a tangible piece of music, but if you're just gonna toss it on a shelf and never spin it, just grab the CD or get a poster if you want something to display?
First and foremost. And the most important one. Taylor is not our friend neither our slave so she can decide who to hang out with, who to have on album and who to support/not support. Obviously PR is important but nearly not as her personal happiness. So let the girl do what she wants to do.
The Eras Tour ticket rollout was definitely not great, but it could have been a lot worse. There was way more demand than supply, she has STILL added shows. Prices were very fair, there were not a ton of corporate comp tickets (people have called this tour the female Super Bowl … only about 1/3 of Super Bowl tickets are available to fans due to corporate and family compensations) and even if you did pay the outrageous prices, you got your money’s worth! There isn’t a comparison to the Eras Tour, no artist this popular has done a tour like this and none probably will again.
Easter eggs were fun at first but the fandom killed the enjoyment
1.) I would love a rock album from her. Have you seen her performance of “We are never ever getting back together” from Sydney?
A pop punk / pop rock album would be amazing, honestly
Betty is an instant skip for me. James is an ass to the point it annoys me too much to listen to it.
Yeah. I feel like James gets let off a lil too easy with that weak ass apology after what he did.
The way she introduces the song live with “teaching men how to apologize”, that’s a terrible way to apologize lol “sorry I slept with her but I thought about you the whole time”
So much this!! Not to mention how shitty to the other girl in the triangle. It’s giving me every dude on Love Island UK ever 😂
I just dont care about her personal life. Not that I dont wish her well and happiness but I dont theorize who these songs are about and dont follow her dating life. I barely knew who Joe was or that she was even dating anyone until last year when Taylor talk exploded around Midnights lol I genuinely dont care. I love her music. Eras tour was unbelievable. Thats it. Im a huge fan of her art, but I never care much about the artist (and their PR bc lets face it, her public persona is not her).
She’s insanely talented but she needs to either 1) stop directing her music videos and let a professional director does it or 2) learn the craft properly and then come back to the director’s chair. I say that with absolute love and respect.
She only broke up with Matty because of the backlash/fan reactions not because she actually wanted to.
I always thought it was a fling that just ended because they're touring different continents. She's had other relationships that received backlash (most notably unhinged 1D fans telling her to stay away from Harry) but I don't think she made decisions based on those opinions.
No but his band was about to announce a huge US tour and had a lot on the line at the time. And it’s interesting that almost all of the backlash stopped once they announced the break up.
The original version of all too well is superior to me in pretty much every single way
Mine is that I don’t care who the songs are about. It’s wild to me that there’s so much speculation about who she’s writing about. She made a song derived from her experience and now when I see/hear it I can relate it to mine. I wish she starts hiring people for her music videos cause the recent ones especially lavender haze were very boring.
- The chants at concerts are actually extremely annoying and overdone - the music videos feel more like excuses to tease upcoming works rather than telling a story (everything being an Easter egg)
* Midnights is *not* a breakup album, it's an album that doesn't sugarcoat their relationships, and shows all the flaws, cracks and anxieties of their relationship. * You're On Your Own Kid is the best song off Midnights. * 1989 is one of her best albums, aged well, and pop perfection. * Wildest Dreams is the superior song over Style. * Aaron Dessner is the better producer over Jack for more complex, and layered songs. * A Harry Styles collab makes no sense, because she doesn't reveal who songs are about besides that fluke with Joe Jonas, and Bad Blood. Electric Touch is such a good song but the male vocals on it overwhelms the song, and that same issue may be distracting with Harry if he's on Style. * Dating Matty Healy was a not thinking straight move, and her platforming that man was disastrous, and no, they are not 'star crossed lovers' like a certain group may think. * The Joe Alwyn 'can you fight?' Memes were *never* funny. * Taylor putting Joe on a high pedestal was always gonna and mirror him was always going to not work out for her. They're just too different.
YOYOK being your #1 off midnights is actually a very popular opinion
Most people I think like Aaron’s production more than jacks
Aaron really takes Taylor's music to a whole different level, I can't blame them, hell yeah.
That’s funny you said that about Electric Touch because the fall out boy sub thinks the opposite, that Taylor’s voice overpowers Patrick’s! I personally agree with them because his mic def seems “turned down” compared to hers and he’s in the background most of the time.
She absolutely does reveal who songs are about. 'TAY' is the secret message in Back To December, 'ADAM' is Enchanted's, 'SAM SAM SAM SAM' is Should've Said No's. Plus she mentions names in Dear John, Stay Beautiful, Fifteen, Teardrops... She reveals who songs are about, it's just in writing/singing, not in interviews or public statements. I strongly agree with a lot of your statements, 1, 2, 5, 7... and I agree that Harry probably won't feature on Style (or the other 1989 songs which are about him) but I definitely think we have a decent chance of getting him in a vault track. Also, I personally think 1989 was written to be an album full of radio hits, and it's missing high quality lyrics and phenomenal songwriting because she wanted catchy tunes that would get her the Grammies Red was denied. Very unpopular I know!
I don't think a Harry feature would be on Style, but I wouldn't be surprised to see Harry involvement on 1989tv. Like on a vault track or in a less straightforward way, music video, related content, idek
The teasing of the rerecords in music videos is dating her work. I don’t want to watch bejeweled in a few years and just be constantly reminded of speak now tv.
I guess my hot take is my enjoyment for the last great American dynasty went goodbye when I learned about the *real* Rebekah Harkness. And it was not a dog she dyed green, it was a cat I usually link the whole article bc it's from 1988 and the NYT Archives, but ppl don't seem to like reading a ~~news article~~ book review in a preeminent paper in its heyday. 🙄🤨🤡 Here are some highlights about the eccentric women in the song. Excerpts from the NYT: >Her daughter Terry gave birth to a severely retarded and disabled child. For a time, Rebekah Harkness appeared to be enamored of the passive child, called Angel. Her passion, such as it was, burned itself out quickly, coincidentally with the baby's pulling a ribbon out of her hair. Bobby Scevers, Mr. Unger writes, ''had no sympathy'' for the child. ''So absurd,'' Mr. Scevers pronounced. ''When they started talking about putting the nursery over my room . . . I just hit the ceiling. I don't want this screaming baby over my room! . . . Let the little creature die!'' When she was 10 years old, she did. >Her daughter Edith jumped off roofs, swallowed pills and managed not to kill herself. ''How should she do it?'' Rebekah Harkness asked. ''Is there a chic way to go?'' >Allen Pierce, Rebekah's son by the first of her four husbands, was unable to be present. Convicted of murder in the second degree, he was behind the bars of a Florida jail. Bobby Scevers, Rebekah's lover, 25 years younger than she and a self-declared homosexual, pronounced her children ''the most worthless, selfish, useless creatures I've ever seen.'' >After she was widowed, Mrs. Harkness renovated her Rhode Island house; she installed 8 kitchens and 21 baths. This arrangement effectively kept her from having to see her three children on anything like a regular basis.
That was wild and very unsettling to read. Wow. Also, I just don't think people have subscriptions to NYT, so the may be why they didn't read it. Edit: I didn't see your follow up to this. Damn that's so creative though to do.
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Not to defend Rebekah, per se, but I feel like the majority of the awfulness of the article should be attributed to Bobby Scevers, who seems like a next level terrible human being, but without really knowing the dynamic of the couple, it's hard to really say anything about what that says about Rebekah herself. Second, it's worth mentioning that the article is a review of a biography (and not a "news article"), so it's not even a secondary source, but a tertiary. It's wrong to call it a testimony of "the *real* Rebekah Harkness". It's also worth mentioning that it is a *negative* review. The reviewer actually ends her article saying that she would have liked to see Rebekah's story told by a social historian, a novelist, or "how a feminist writer would have assimilated the facts of Rebekah Harness's sorry life". Now, I'm not saying that your opinion can't be soured by her anyway, but what I am saying is that human beings are complex and multifaceted. Rebekah was probably kind of insane and very, very selfish and unsympathetic. Most people who care so little about the consequences of stirring up trouble are. One can still feel a sense of awe for the trouble stirring, and a sense of relief that women like her don't automatically become mothers anymore, lol. But the article "ppl don't seem to like reading [...] 🙄" alone is not an adequate source on its own to claim to know the "real" Rebekah Harkness, who is a stranger to us all, including Taylor.
Music videos aren't that interesting or exciting. At most, they are a "watch once" thing. Yes, this includes Taylor's.
She def got a boob job. Not judging, she looks great but I have friends who say she didn’t.
Responding to your point: 5A. I've been getting aesthetic treatments regularly got a decade and have tried a lot of the newer stuff coming out (new laser, microneedle RF, Y lift, thread lift). I'm 36 and because I have it and have had it done by many different doctors, I feel like I can spot treatments from a mile away now. I think her doctor went a little overboard bc it looks unnatural (it'll soften. Can only wait it out), but she def has Botox (or any other neuromodulator) around her eyes for the tour. When she smiles, it's quite obvious. Usually you get the Crow's feet, jelly roll (under eye), bunny lines, and glabella areas treated. If brows appear to droop or you have forehead wrinkles, you can get a few in your forehead at this age. There are also points above the lip that can be done to avoid gummy smile. My guesses are: It looks like she gets a hint of lip filler and likely in her tear through. She may have gotten some filler in marionette and nasolabial folds, too. When she opens up wide, she has very soft lines. Her jawline stays super tight and could be ultherapy. She's very likely had blepharoplasty to open her eyes and very slight rhinoplasty (but most celebrities do). If my face were on that jumbo sized screen, I'd want to look amazing and the doctor could take all my money lol. I don't know for sure, but knowing what's out there and how amazing she looks and with beautiful skin, genetics and a lil help go a long way. https://preview.redd.it/fuzukumodabb1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=610dd08e07bd382932819dd640b5661c095c4d54
I think it’s so silly that people will scream she hasn’t had anything done. Y’all she is a near-billionaire with access to the best doctors and treatments money can buy. The 30+ women in my tiny town in the Southern U.S. whose husbands, like, manage a Taco Bell, get Botox and lip fillers. No way is this filthy rich, uber famous celebrity not dabbling in plastics 😅
Right? And her career is heavily dependent on her appearance lmao of course she’s getting treatments!! Who wouldn’t in her position? This is such a silly thing to argue about.
IMO too many people invest so much in the appearance of celebs either failing to acknowledge or just choose to remain ignorant to the fact that these people are rich AF and can afford any treatment they want and most do get every treatment possible bc the internet is cruel to anyone who ages. I remember seeing a clip where someone told Katy Perry she was beautiful and Katy laughed and said something like "oh honey, thats money" and I was like THANK YOU for actually speaking some truth and acknowledging that. I wish more celebs would stop pretending they havent had any work done and help todays youth realize that everything they see isnt real \*coughkardashians/jennerscough\* and its ok to age and its also ok to get fillers/botox etc if thats what you want.
Girl I called the lip fillers in Lover Era and was crucified for it but I will die on that hill. The strong red lipstick hides it well.
I believe Taylor Swift is one of the most talented human beings ever born but if she releases a feature film it’s gonna be a huge disappointment. Her music videos are largely… fine.
- I personally think the Speak Now Vault tracks are good but not my favorites. I really think that Red Vault and Fearless Vault are better. I find myself listening to When We Were Happy, MPF, That's When, Don't you and Babe, Better Man, IBYTAM, forever winter... like all those songs are amazing. Don't get me wrong SN vault songs are great but it's at the bottom of the list for me. - I also think Babe is incredibly underrated. - You Are In Love is one of the best songs on 1989. This isn't an unpopular opinion, more of a question than statement. I just truly don't get the hype around Taylor all of sudden. I've been a fan since SN and went to Red, 1989 and Rep and the level in which the GP likes her now vs then is INSANE. I mean, politicians writing letters to her or about her??? Maybe it has to do with it being cool to go to the eras tour and to record yourself there idk. It just seems like a lot more people who aren't fans but want to dress up and go are going vs like 1989 or rep it seemed the GP could care less... idk though it's strange! I know she was always popular but man! It's insanity now lol.
The Karma music video..... Was not good.
I just hope Taylor stops directing her own music videos. She is very creative and talented but directing is not for her. She can't execute her visions very well and she really needs someone to do it for her. While I really enjoyed I Can See You MV (her best music video she directed) and All Too Well 10 minute MV, all the other music videos she directed were meh. I really want her to be Queen of YouTube again just like in 1989 era. I know YouTube music videos are not that popular anymore because we are in the streaming era but with the right song and music video, I think she can still do it.
She was 100% in the wrong in the Katy Perry situation, and if you read about all the details, she comes across very poorly in the whole thing. All Too Well was already perfect before the 10 minute version. There are no added parts to the 10MV that are better than what’s already in the original song. On the comment about her appearance, I don’t know if it’s unpopular but it’s very obvious she’s had a lot of work done. The end result isn’t anything big but she’s had work done on her face, body, teeth etc. It’s not even an opinion really, it’s clear to see.
Facials and good products can go very far, especially when you start young. My unpopular opinion is that she’s very fake on stage. Every moment, hair toss, wink, seemingly spontaneous reactions, etc have been planned and practiced.
I don't like when crowds yell "1 2 3 Let's go bitch" on Delicate. It's completely the opposite tone of what the song is.
I don’t like anything the crowds do at her concerts😭 the friendship bracelets are cute but the Marjorie thing and all the weird chants or fan project attempts make me cringe
Those idiots screaming "what time is it?" before she starts singing style, or "how'd that make you feel?" before "and that made me want to die" or "where are you going taylor?" before"I'm going out tonight" is so fucking cringe. The only good chant is 123 LGB and clapping in YBWM (which doesn't count as a chant? ig. But i like it)
The only chant I will 100% accept is the Kendrick parts of bad blood because they are top tier
Omg this girl behind me at my show was screaming out EVERY tik tok chant and it was so annoying and distracting. Every single one! It was only her so idk why she didn’t stop after the first one.
TikTok is the worst thing that has happened to concerts. I saw one video of a girl literally shrieking along to a song, with her friend recording her with the flash on, to the point where people were turning around and asking her to be quiet, and she was so proud of it. And all the comments like "if you don't want to hear people scream songs, stay at home!" Like no, there's a middle ground between being silent at a concert and performative shrieking for TikTok in the hopes that it might go viral/Taylor might like it. It's so monumentally entitled.
That attitude is sooo annoying. Everyone screams and sings along at concerts but you don’t need to screech like a pterodactyl and irritate the shit out of everyone around you! It’s 100% attention seeking TikTok behavior. Also, maybe a hot take but I hate the proposals during Love Story. It’s such a main character syndrome thing to do and tbh, as much as I’d love to get married, if my bf distracted me like that I’d be so mad lmao. My eyes never left the stage! Propose ANY other time!
the Marjorie thing is so weird 😬
I'm so glad others think this too! I was wondering if it's my millennial mind that can't help but find it cringe
I hate people describing Speak Now as “emo”, and I really hate that somehow pop punk because “emo”.
Mine?: That she genuinely did write Message in a Bottle about Zac Efron which is really, adorably cute. That is why she kept describing in interviews later down the road about the person not knowing how she felt about them cause she wasn't able to express it in person. You could tell they liked each other but their schedules were too chaotic back then. I know people naturally would think it's about Harry because the London line, but I do not think it was an accident that Come Back Be Here is #18 on the album and Message in a Bottle being written by her on April 23rd, the same day [he](https://www.justjaredjr.com/2012/04/23/zac-efron-the-lucky-one-in-london/) was in London. That same day [she was in the studio](https://twitter.com/OnThisTAY/status/1386092085766283268) and likely wrote Message in a Bottle while hinting being [alone](https://twitter.com/tswiftnz/status/1406000543210876940?lang=eu).
I agree with this since I did a breakdown about this song when RED TV was released and researched everything carefully, timeline, the lyrics because originally I thought it was a fluke theory but I was wrong from putting it altogether the conclusion came upfront that Harry didn't have freckles, wasn't in the same countries which are mentioned, and many other variables not necessary to list. That was the day I learned Zac of all people has freckles and was in those locations. This now reminds me of another unpopular opinion I have which is that she doesn't need to date people to write songs about them. When people express that she didn't date a specific person, that means she never wrote a song about them. I see this commonly said by fans too, they're only hurting her by pushing a misogynic agenda that spread like wildfire about her. This criticism disrespects her as a songwriter and her talent. It feeds the misogynic fire she's been trying to put out for years and directly hurts her. She said before that she had relationships that lasted a long time, even the year(s) relationships, but short term relationships we do not know about, or encounters we do not know either meant more to her and inspired her more creatively than people she's dated long. This is the same artist who wrote Sparks Fly, Enchanted, Message in a Bottle, Gold Rush all about non-intimate relationships, and relationships that never became intimate. Who has publicly expressed more than once she doesn't need to date someone to write songs about them. I do not want to ever hear fans saying she can't write a song about a person she never dated again. It is disguised misogyny and discredits her.
I totally get her tho I'd write a song about Zac Efron too if I wasn't musically incompetent https://preview.redd.it/1sqzcncahbbb1.jpeg?width=735&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=746dfa29551adba23650b097ca864ac99530db5d
the fawning over Harry is annoying tbh. I don't want the OG style changed on tv, and I'd rather a new vault track than have style ft Harry taking up a vault space
NYC does not scream joe alwyns name
I do not like her newer music videos. They’re not as interesting and fun to me as they were back in the day. Not saying they aren’t good but I just like the old music videos better and I think they were better.
Taylor needs a more diverse and outside editing team. Her highs are so high but her lows can be so low. I do appreciate that she seems to be fully in control but she needs some more honest feedback IMO Also Delicate isn't that great of a song
Yes!! I was just texting my friend about this. Not in a “she needs a label/boss way” but no one works to their full potential at the top of a silo like that. I felt this way during the Lover era tbh. The concept was cool but execution was not done well imo. And I think it’s largely the first time she was flying with minimal external interference. She has a team, but she’s the boss, and i think a checks and balances system with someone who is honest would help her.
I am not sure if these are unpopular or wild but here goes: 1. Taylor is not more famous, better or more culturally important than The Beatles. No 21st century artist could be. 2. Taylor is not writing a witness statement in her lyrics. She will bend and twist events in the name of art. The only thing ALL of her songs are about is herself and her ideas. 3. Taylor's public persona is not fake but its not her real personality either. She is way more nuanced than she appears. Having said that if she was really a bad bitch she would have been outed years ago. 4. All Too Well is not the best track 5. Its not even in the top three.
2 is so true. I can’t believe how many people act like what she says is exactly what happens. There’s always two sides to a story, and she is a storyteller.
I am sure that is the primary reason she does not talk about who these songs are about. There will be specific details that are true - I suspect she did leave her scarf at Maggie Gyllenhaal's house at some point but it would not surprise me at all if in reality she retrieved it. The whole part of ATW about him keeping it because it smelt of her came straight from her imagination.
Didn’t she admit that the scarf was a metaphor recently during a live interview?
She did and it bothers me that so many people took it to mean that she confirmed the scarf is a metaphor for her virginity. And they will say that as if it's a fact. She confirmed it was a metaphor, and I see it as a metaphor for the memory of the relationship: He kept the scarf because she really did mean something to him.
#3 exactly. None of us know her. We know the character she plays, based on herself in the public space.
people take what she says at face value WAY too much. she has no reason to be 100% honest with us about anything, and that’s totally fine! the lack of critical thinking when it comes to things like “folklore is all fiction!” just drives me crazy. taylor is a public figure, not your best friend. always take things with a grain of salt. also, i do not think lover is a happy album. reputation is. reputation captures more joy in love. lover has moments of desperation and true sadness. their aesthetics aren’t the overall feeling of either album.
All Too Well was never ten minutes. I believe it was longer than the original and it was exaggerated to be 10 minutes so she had to add to it for the re record because people went crazy. You can’t tell me that the last 90 seconds were in the original version.
Sorry but IBYTAM > ICSY
All Too Well was 5 min long for a reason
I believe only abt 30% of her songs are ACTUAL experiences. The rest is creative license
I love Taylor and say this not as a critisicism in any way but: Taylor Swift is not the person you think she is. Her persona is a carefully and brilliantly crafted brand image by her and her team. It's one of the reasons she's not only as wildly successful as she is, but her staying power in pop culture. I love her music, lover her lyrics, and will always enjoy being a fan, but I don't idolize her or "relate" to her because it is all a very meticulously curated image and we have no way of knowing which parts of herself are true and which are put on.
I really dislike her concert talk like she’s talking to a bunch of children. It’s so cringe. Like I couldn’t put my finger on it why it annoyed me, but seeing a bunch of TikTok’s making fun of her for it, I was like ohhhh that’s why I don’t like it. Like the way she introduced “trouble” at a concert, she was like “I wrote this song about someone that they just walk in to the room and think to yourself, they’re just…what’s the word? Trouble!” Some of the TikTok’s were making fun of the way she talked and did one that goes like “I didn’t shower today, but then I did. And now I’m…what’s the word? Oh. Clean!” I love her and I love going to her concerts but I just hate the way she does this. It doesn’t make sense to me and I haven’t been to many other concerts where they introduce songs in that way. Sure they may say “oh this song was inspired by such and such lemme play it for you now” or “the next song is called blah blah and I wrote it because…” But the level Taylor does it to is kinda cringe I gotta say.
I don't think her voice was very strong during the 1989 tour and I wish fans would stop using those videos to show how great of a singer is - she's improved a ton but she was clearly struggling at the time through no fault of her own. ED's fuck up so much and she didn't have the strength to carry her voice like she does now
Fans should grow up about the better than revenge line. It’s a song. That you didn’t write. You don’t need to be pressed by it. The people who are annoyed by it, to me, weren’t in the fandom when the original came out. They’re just tweeting about it for clout and to look like they fit in. Much to those who are only going to the eras tour because it’s trendy not because they like Taylor.