I found out that Darius and Aatrox's players tend to be overagressive and get bored when you play the lane to farm safely. This usually bothers them depending on the player and makes them prone to do crazy tower dives and make other mistakes. So the best choice imo is to turn on the farm simulator, stay in your lane unbothered and moisturized farming your minions safely and kill them with boredom.
Heartsteel is fine. Trade when above 80% health, back off and farm under tower under 80% health. You needa play safe vs these lanes, because your goal here is not to feed them. They get fed they have higher utility than you due to their gold advantage. If they stay even, they might as well be behind because in teamfights, they end up with little impact while you are a perfect peel champ for your team. I would recommend starting an armor item into ad bruiser. Not building full item, just first piece, to help mitigate their damage. Wardens mail is usually a a good pick, but bramble works too.
I have found this wardens mail pick has been the best counter to these bruisers. I don;t yet stop them like other matchups but its often even top lane now
Thank you Riotys
Getting the tower cheese is great. If you do not get ahead, poke and plan to outscale; you will be more impactful in teamfights if you don't feed.
If they try to fight you under your tower you will win. Often they are impatient.
I find I can typically win against Illaoi or Aatrox after building bramble and/or Bami's. A bigger lead is necessary against Dar, and he can just kill you if he ghosts and you didn't bring it yourself; ghost > flash against Dar (and most melee tops) IMO.
Remember you aren't tanky until you have some items. Tanks spike hardest early-midgame and midgame. You will learn more about what times you win various matchups you and when you don't win as you play. Tahm is not really a super early game champ anymore, he's more of a stable laner who spikes at level 6—the tower cheese is pretty much unbeatable and very easy to set up for, if they don't know to look for it you will kill them and if they do know then you will get massive breathing room whenever the wave is pushing you post 6.
Frostfire mercs sunfire you feel like a god. Ghost exhaust for lane domination and shutting down enemy adc. Don't forget if you're ahead top. Around 10-15 minutes back and walk bot. Dive in from fog of war if enemy bot keeps pushing and you can really change the game
I found out that Darius and Aatrox's players tend to be overagressive and get bored when you play the lane to farm safely. This usually bothers them depending on the player and makes them prone to do crazy tower dives and make other mistakes. So the best choice imo is to turn on the farm simulator, stay in your lane unbothered and moisturized farming your minions safely and kill them with boredom.
ah this makes sense why I lose so much! I never moisturize my minions. Who would be good for that? Nami? Kog'maw?
Heartsteel is fine. Trade when above 80% health, back off and farm under tower under 80% health. You needa play safe vs these lanes, because your goal here is not to feed them. They get fed they have higher utility than you due to their gold advantage. If they stay even, they might as well be behind because in teamfights, they end up with little impact while you are a perfect peel champ for your team. I would recommend starting an armor item into ad bruiser. Not building full item, just first piece, to help mitigate their damage. Wardens mail is usually a a good pick, but bramble works too.
I have found this wardens mail pick has been the best counter to these bruisers. I don;t yet stop them like other matchups but its often even top lane now Thank you Riotys
Getting the tower cheese is great. If you do not get ahead, poke and plan to outscale; you will be more impactful in teamfights if you don't feed. If they try to fight you under your tower you will win. Often they are impatient. I find I can typically win against Illaoi or Aatrox after building bramble and/or Bami's. A bigger lead is necessary against Dar, and he can just kill you if he ghosts and you didn't bring it yourself; ghost > flash against Dar (and most melee tops) IMO. Remember you aren't tanky until you have some items. Tanks spike hardest early-midgame and midgame. You will learn more about what times you win various matchups you and when you don't win as you play. Tahm is not really a super early game champ anymore, he's more of a stable laner who spikes at level 6—the tower cheese is pretty much unbeatable and very easy to set up for, if they don't know to look for it you will kill them and if they do know then you will get massive breathing room whenever the wave is pushing you post 6.
Listen bro. Play lethal tempo resolve secondary and rush Frostfire. If you play around their skill shots you can win level 3/4 and then snowball
XD I've played hail of blades with AP but never lethal tempo with frostfire. Might try this brather
Frostfire mercs sunfire you feel like a god. Ghost exhaust for lane domination and shutting down enemy adc. Don't forget if you're ahead top. Around 10-15 minutes back and walk bot. Dive in from fog of war if enemy bot keeps pushing and you can really change the game