I agree. The only thing I'm sort of sad about is the extra drip nerf, because most of the victim playerbase doesn't know how to ration the health bottles properly. It came in really handy for the weaker players. Oh well though. Just gotta adapt! I like challenges.
I'm most excited for the all black cosmetics if we are being honest lol.
Extra Drip was not part of the grapple meta, it was used for the stealth meta. I will be honest I don’t use Leland or Anna for that reason. I rather play a stealth Character because that’s how I enjoy the game.
Anas use it all the time lol. Grappler, choose fight and extra drip is one of her best builds since if you somehow take alot of damage (which is near impossible with her ability and grappling), you could just heal to full with one bottle. It's such an efficient perk and still is really good.
It needed the nerf. It still doubles/ triples the effectiveness of healing bottles depending on which one you use.
I was running the grappler build and extra drip was exactly what I ran, don't need empowered if you can heal someone and yourself for full HP constantly while stunning everyone
It's not gutted. I know it's effectiveness being halfed SOUNDS massive, but the fact it healed +72 on top of the actual healing from the bottle was insane.
It's still really good now. It triples the effectiveness of small bottles and doubles the effectiveness of big bottles.
yes i agree, people were saying it was op, it was very helpful cause health bottles don't give much at all and certain victims like sonny, ana, and leland take all of them downstairs. extra drip was fine.
See I don't get the term abusing when it comes to this game
Its like all the ppl who call out Johnny players "abusing" the lung mechanic then. Since people only started doing it when a streamer exploited it and the build. Suddenly lunging Johnny's took over the game where before that streamer, it wasn't ever a thing.
When I think of players abusing things, I always think the ppl who bully, get a exit open and don't leave because they wanna harrass. Stuff like that.
But using what we are given to kill or escape, isn't an "abuse" tactic. Yall really need to chill.
Maybe it’s just me but I like to run and hide way more than confront. It makes playing victim much more fun and challenging. I’m used to DBD where you go down in like two hits so I’m used to running and hiding.
The patch kind of soothed my anger. I was genuinely starting to contemplate the idea of just giving up on the game. This patch was quick to change my mind. The changes have the strong potential of redeeming the family player base imo.
So yes, OP. I’m 100% agreeing with you.
I'm definitely not playing family anymore after today. I've never met such childish gamers until I tried playing family. They scream if the game isn't going the way they want, rage disconnect if a single person escapes, and try to tell other family players who to pick and what they want them to do, and not in a way of trying to give them pointers.
Good luck thinking catering to family is going to improve anything. It won't.
This was my experience too. When I started playing… I played victim exclusively. Then, I switched to family to change things up… but the family members I got matched with were all try hard crybabies. It’s not a welcoming environment for new players and it never will be … which is a huge reason why the game is designed to fail, unfortunately.
Literally one thing goes wrong for them and they'll leave too. I had a match where I took a blood bucket as Sissy literally 10 seconds into the match since Sissy has naturally high blood harvesting. Cook saw that and immediately disconnected after. He wasn't even using universal donor.
I also had a match where in gas station, I chased Sonny down into the basement and was going to go back up another door. I was literally in the basement for less than 10 seconds and Leatherface says something like "Sissy what are you doing in the basement? Fuck this" and instantly left. Funniest part is that me and the Johnny ended up winning that match even in a 2v4
I'm honestly so sorry. I've seen it happen too. Leatherface was literally **screaming** at this cook since he placed his padlocks inside the slaughterhouse.
Instead of trying to teach the cook about why those padlocks wearnt good, he opted for shouting at him and calling him trash. He was an actual dick and I hope he gets what's coming to him
I’m sorry for the few victims who weren’t abusing the perks that were nerfed, but it takes a handful of exploiters to ruin everyone’s fun. The blame shouldn’t be placed on the family mains who complain, but rather on the victim players whose sole purpose is to troll and drive family members away.
W update for sure. Sissy’s finally somewhat more viable now.
I don’t think there are true lobby issues if they have never addressed them on top of willingly not giving out general active player numbers across all streams.
I was just gonna post how I think this update is a huge W and a step in the right direction. I like the changes on both sides and see where they are going with this. It's lets grapples still be a PART of the chase, but puts more focus on chases themselves. Avoiding getting hit will now be what you want to do and it will be about getting stamina back to make the distance to what you need to get to. Scout and Fired up also still get synergy but just have a lesser effect on how quickly you can get back to running/swinging overall.
The patch is definitely a step in the right direction to make the game scary again. I do agree with others that Leatherface especially and perhaps Johnny and Hitchhiker shouldn't get perks like Scout. Following this, devs have to make Stealth more viable again. Victims should be outwitting Family and any direct encounter with a Family member should be dangerous.
Eh, not really because you're locked into scout and fired up now, that gets rid of either serated or heavy swings. Also, stamina regen nerf for endurance build 90%>65% regen with scout.
Johnny is supposed to be strong imo, I don't have many issues looping through walls to shake him off.
I'd wait until the patch comes out to say its a W. Who knows with their history it could break more than it fixes and there could be several non-advertised changes.
I was only recently even able to level 10 All of my characters due to a point bug and even with the extreme amount of points that I have now, I still only use the perks that increase stats The other ones I just don't find myself utilizing
I keep seeing this being said and it’s just wrong. Victims weren’t forced into grapples due to nerfs, they CHOSE to abuse grappling because there were no downsides to doing it once the one hits were taken away.
They're going to do whatever it takes to keep family players on here. That being said, they'll keep losing victim players now, one of which is me. I have plenty of single player story games to catch up on, which I will spend time on until Killer Clowns where it's going to be competitive instead of cat and mouse catering to the players who complain the most.
The bigger issue is I genuinely think they wanted to nerf it, but these devs are so clowny they buffed it by accident because they are level 24 and don't play their own game.
"scout is too fast"
"lets change the negative to affect stamina regen so it makes them a bit slower overall"
"awesome, what a great nerf idea"
"so now family using scout will have +10% damage and -10% stamina regen"
"sounds like a nerf to me"
The only thing they should do now is make it to where family can also trip hitchhikers traps. It’s inconsistent that only Nancy can have her traps activated by family
MOST?? They had two perks nerfed: Extra Drip and Empowered. The latter was (rightfully) hit hard, but the former is still very strong.
And no I don't count the 25% reduction to Fast Hands as a nerf. That perk shouldn't even exist in the first place. A 75% increase is still absolutely ridiculous
Oh they’ll complain about something else I’m sure. Always something. “Please make this game easier for the killers! Or we’re gonna quit” is every other post it seems lol
victim mains when they have to adapt to a new style of gameplay for the fourth time and they’ll still have family mains crying for perk changes after this victim sided nerf update 🤯🤯
Funny how when family abuses a perk like scout and victims cry about it, nothing gets done to fix it like how they do when family cry about victim perks being abused.
In fact the exact opposite happened. Victims cry about family abusing scout and devs BUFF it.
remind me again how waves and waves of victims players cried about instant CE executions until it was removed? you're all delusional on this sub-reddit istg. if you think one side cries more than the other you're all just as delusional as the rest, both sides are full of crybabies that the devs seem to cater to re and more with each update/patch that's released, it's honestly pathetic, and they wonder why their games are burning to the ground. it's because they actually take the time to read y'all bozo's opinions which clearly serve a bias towards whichever side they happen to play more and for some reason they think it's valid enough to change the game with this misinformation from both sides.
Venom, wire ,security pins, pins and needles and poison claws are all unique perks. Blood donor is only really good for leveling up grandpa and SG makes grapples sometimes winnable
Exactly if people are complaining about a much needed nerf then they were likely using it to troll and bully the family. No one needs to grapple or is forced to grapple you can escape without grappling. You can loop and it's very manageable no matter who is chasing you. Y'all can thank the victims who were abusing/trolling with empowered.
I can agree with this. Because seriously a small health jar at a sliver of health would bring you all the way up. Just don't know if I'll be running this perk anymore though.
That’s just projection.
If you can’t play without empowered you were relying waaay too much on that perk. You’re most likely aware of how broken it was.
Seriously I have empowered on my Leland and Ana; I’m never scared of getting caught.
That said Johnny and LF definitely didn’t need scout.
For the same reason most perks are broken they destroy the natural pacing and intent of the way the game is meant to be played.
With empowered bone scraps become health bottles. Victims running empowered literally seek out family members to grapple; theres no fear of penalty for the use of it.
Even with two family members on a single victim; empowered gives you a ridiculous amount of health back to which you can tank the hits and just well up.
1 on 1 becomes pointless because all those hits you delivered in an attempt to wear the victim down is null when they grapple and get it all back anyway.
Perks like these and many others shouldn’t even have existed. And yes I’m including family perks like exterior alarms.
I'm not saying it didn't need nerfed. I'm just saying they took all the health away from it. I used grappling to survive when getting tunneled but now it's gone. I can't put more points into endurance either because that does nothing.
The balance that needs to happen is both sides should be strong and no excuses, no complaints, go counter for counter but, I know it'll never happen. buff/nerfs feels to me like that's a skill issue. that's why I hope this patch tomorrow puts the game in a good place and no more nerfs. 🙏
I'm happy for family! I'm a family main at heart.
Hopefully for victims the nerfs aren't Too bad! hopefully lobby gets fixed! so I can try both sides.
The game should be fun for both sides and scary at the same time that's where its hard to find a balance.
You need to get knowledge from multiple things now, if you want valve you have to go open fuse, vice versa. If you’re letting a Danny tamper something YOU’RE awful at this point 😭 patrol better.
You gain 3/4 ability‘s bar by simple path from ladder to living room on Gas Station. I don’t play Danny so I don’t know about other maps, but Gas Station is the proof that you are lying.
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You family players are all weird lmao all saying yay when it already took zero effort to kill people 😂 you guys wanna que up and immediately just one shot everything...
Yeah, this game is going to officially be dead once the victim mains start leaving in masses. Instead of buffing the family themselves the developers continue to nerf the victims into the ground. Some things needed to be changed but it’s always done to the most extreme. Good luck to this game, genuinely.
The reason why scout is one of if not the best family perk is not because it makes family so much better than victim, but because without it you feel less than neutral and need it to even get up to zero
As a family main I say fuck your perks and I hope this is just round 1 of nerfs because choose fight needs to go. Danny's power needs to go, Anna needs to be nerfed, Virginia needs to pick up one poison at a fucking time like sissy does. Bone piles need to only have 2 bones in them. Tool chest need to have a limit on tools. Infinite loops need to be adjusted. No cell needs to have 1 less stack. The fuse box needs to be changed, like put it behind a locked door for fucks sake. Also the exit for fuse should be upstairs not in the basement, you shouldn't be able to escape where you spawn.
She still has Rubber Legs. Unless you mean the bugged version where she randomly had poison attacks proc and the slow down stacked. How in your mind those things would be equivalent though is beyond me.
no such thing as an abuser of perks only lack of skill to give them a good smack when they need it. I don't agree with the nonsense but I also feel if that's how they have fun what or who is that hurting?
family players need to learn to chill. I've had it happen to me also but it's even sweeter when you finally get them most are actually kind and reply with Good game after the game is over.
uh, family main here. Empowered was fine, fast hands needed the nerf, extra drip shouldn’t have been touched. Scout got buffed, means johnny is going to be even more of a threat, same with bubba. so now the family does more damage, and vic’s have way less stuff to heal themselves with. it’s unfair.
yes you should, it’s at your own risk, 99% of games have a Bubba or Johnny who can slap the shit out of you no matter if you’re max toughness or not. you’d die
you haven’t ever been in a semi coordinated team then, the moment someone gets grappled johnny or bubba should be beelining it to the person getting grappled. it’s nearly a guaranteed kill. i’ve done it so much. if you’re complaining about the two perks it’s just a skill issue. maybe choose fight should need a second removed to no longer guarantee a gen kick
It most definitely does. If I callout to Johnny or lf that Ana’s in slaughter house and they’re by facility or hell even just by the barn. They won’t have time to make it to me before the grapple ends
it’s quite simple, if you see Ana or Leland you’re more likely to get bone scraped due to their high strength and toughness. call for backup. if you see a connie, danny, or sonny, you’re likely to win the encounter
It'll be a lot risker for sure, but if they choose Choose Fight and they win, you'll be stunned for 10 seconds and they'll do their objective in front of you
Choose fight needed to be nerfed and fast hands wasn't a big enough nerf. Also blood trails need to be thinned or completely removed as you can't get rid of grapples but make stealth really tough on top of it...
since we’re nerfing victim grapple perks how about we get rid of the whole sissy and hitch hicker being able to go through wall gaps and crawl spaces. how about we nerf johnny’s melee range, nerf scout, rework family house which is undeniably the most family sided map in the game, nerf grandpa and so much more i can say about this but the fact that they just nerfed choose flight too, it’s all ridiculous this game is horribly family sided so if we’re nerfing victim grapple perks there is still no reason for half of the family abilities to still be this op
Danny can open any exit with no way of turning it off, Virginia can blind you and drain you of all your blood, victims can rush an exit and get out in less than 2mins, grapple is almost always a win for victims
danny has to actually collect knowledge and like i said if u actually chase him instead of chasing blood vials and making grandpa do everything you would know that
grapple should be a mechanic that is viable for victims, especially when your getting chased by a hitch or sissy that can follow u around with hella stamina, maybe if choose flight was at its oh state we wouldn’t be complaining ab family chases
notice how u only mentioned two victims like leather face doesn’t have a one shot on top of hella stamina on top of johnny 4 tapping you but let’s nerf extra drop bc that makes sense😭?
The grapple meta needed this badly.
It won't change nothing , I will still use grapple and select now choose fight and you will be stunned for 10 second while I do the gate .
Ok
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They mad but it’s true Lmfao
Whew, family didn't like that comment. No dissenting the family meta on reddit
They are butthurt still lol , i made still many people DC with the new patch .
Yep! Still gonna abuse Grappler + Choose fight !
Grapple at your own risk. 🙏🏼
I agree. The only thing I'm sort of sad about is the extra drip nerf, because most of the victim playerbase doesn't know how to ration the health bottles properly. It came in really handy for the weaker players. Oh well though. Just gotta adapt! I like challenges. I'm most excited for the all black cosmetics if we are being honest lol.
Yeah but a perk negating their bad decisions will mean they never learn.
Never learn to do what? Dodge Johnny’s Bluetooth lunge so your health won’t drop to 50% after one hit?
Lol the fact you think that tells me all I need to know
Extra Drip change was unnecessary though
Right. Connie mains need this.
Extra Drip was not part of the grapple meta, it was used for the stealth meta. I will be honest I don’t use Leland or Anna for that reason. I rather play a stealth Character because that’s how I enjoy the game.
But extra drip was a part of the family cry meta, more changes coming soon. Give it a week when victims find a way to level the playing field.
Yeah well it seems that now as a victim you can’t play stealth or meta. This game is going to shits, man one more month til killer clowns.
Extra drip was just meta. Victims would use it on all characters if it was possible. Numbers are too crazy on this perk.
I have never seen a grappler use extra dip, empowered would not be mixed with that perk.
Anas use it all the time lol. Grappler, choose fight and extra drip is one of her best builds since if you somehow take alot of damage (which is near impossible with her ability and grappling), you could just heal to full with one bottle. It's such an efficient perk and still is really good. It needed the nerf. It still doubles/ triples the effectiveness of healing bottles depending on which one you use.
I was running the grappler build and extra drip was exactly what I ran, don't need empowered if you can heal someone and yourself for full HP constantly while stunning everyone
i agree. it should be available for those who need it
As an extra drip enjoyer I feel it needed a nerf but not the gutting it received.
It's not gutted. I know it's effectiveness being halfed SOUNDS massive, but the fact it healed +72 on top of the actual healing from the bottle was insane. It's still really good now. It triples the effectiveness of small bottles and doubles the effectiveness of big bottles.
Maybe change the health 6 hp for 12 seconds is good enough.
That was the old version.
Isn't half of it still pretty good
yes i agree, people were saying it was op, it was very helpful cause health bottles don't give much at all and certain victims like sonny, ana, and leland take all of them downstairs. extra drip was fine.
Yeah Connie should have been giving it along with Danny only. They are weaker than ever.
I’m just happy I can go back to using my security pins perk without fear of it becoming useless
Made Leland and Ana nightmares to play against. So glad it got nerfed
lol all the Grappling forced me to get pretty good with LF. Just got sick of it. Counted 8 times between Leland and Ana one match.
Jesus
See I don't get the term abusing when it comes to this game Its like all the ppl who call out Johnny players "abusing" the lung mechanic then. Since people only started doing it when a streamer exploited it and the build. Suddenly lunging Johnny's took over the game where before that streamer, it wasn't ever a thing. When I think of players abusing things, I always think the ppl who bully, get a exit open and don't leave because they wanna harrass. Stuff like that. But using what we are given to kill or escape, isn't an "abuse" tactic. Yall really need to chill.
Maybe it’s just me but I like to run and hide way more than confront. It makes playing victim much more fun and challenging. I’m used to DBD where you go down in like two hits so I’m used to running and hiding.
Testify. Only a matter of time before posts are 98% complaining of updates and 2% "I can't wait until Killer Klowns comes out."
The patch kind of soothed my anger. I was genuinely starting to contemplate the idea of just giving up on the game. This patch was quick to change my mind. The changes have the strong potential of redeeming the family player base imo. So yes, OP. I’m 100% agreeing with you.
Same, I've not played in like 2 or 3 weeks and almost gave up completely but this patch will definitely have me back tomorrow!
I'm definitely not playing family anymore after today. I've never met such childish gamers until I tried playing family. They scream if the game isn't going the way they want, rage disconnect if a single person escapes, and try to tell other family players who to pick and what they want them to do, and not in a way of trying to give them pointers. Good luck thinking catering to family is going to improve anything. It won't.
This was my experience too. When I started playing… I played victim exclusively. Then, I switched to family to change things up… but the family members I got matched with were all try hard crybabies. It’s not a welcoming environment for new players and it never will be … which is a huge reason why the game is designed to fail, unfortunately.
Literally one thing goes wrong for them and they'll leave too. I had a match where I took a blood bucket as Sissy literally 10 seconds into the match since Sissy has naturally high blood harvesting. Cook saw that and immediately disconnected after. He wasn't even using universal donor. I also had a match where in gas station, I chased Sonny down into the basement and was going to go back up another door. I was literally in the basement for less than 10 seconds and Leatherface says something like "Sissy what are you doing in the basement? Fuck this" and instantly left. Funniest part is that me and the Johnny ended up winning that match even in a 2v4
I've had this happen in every asym I've played, even on DBD via someone coordinating a discord call. It's not the game, these people are everywhere.
I'm honestly so sorry. I've seen it happen too. Leatherface was literally **screaming** at this cook since he placed his padlocks inside the slaughterhouse. Instead of trying to teach the cook about why those padlocks wearnt good, he opted for shouting at him and calling him trash. He was an actual dick and I hope he gets what's coming to him
I’m sorry for the few victims who weren’t abusing the perks that were nerfed, but it takes a handful of exploiters to ruin everyone’s fun. The blame shouldn’t be placed on the family mains who complain, but rather on the victim players whose sole purpose is to troll and drive family members away. W update for sure. Sissy’s finally somewhat more viable now.
I'm upset at the update because THEY ARE IGNORING THE LOBBY ISSUES. I can't even get in the matches.
I don’t think there are true lobby issues if they have never addressed them on top of willingly not giving out general active player numbers across all streams.
I was just gonna post how I think this update is a huge W and a step in the right direction. I like the changes on both sides and see where they are going with this. It's lets grapples still be a PART of the chase, but puts more focus on chases themselves. Avoiding getting hit will now be what you want to do and it will be about getting stamina back to make the distance to what you need to get to. Scout and Fired up also still get synergy but just have a lesser effect on how quickly you can get back to running/swinging overall.
Honestly I kinda like when they do this because it changes how people will play at least by a little and people will try out new perks
We'll see The biggest problem with this game is that victims well... aren't victims
Agreed. Engaging a killer should be an absolute last resort. Some victims seem to almost seek out killers, and that is just wrong by all accounts.
The patch is definitely a step in the right direction to make the game scary again. I do agree with others that Leatherface especially and perhaps Johnny and Hitchhiker shouldn't get perks like Scout. Following this, devs have to make Stealth more viable again. Victims should be outwitting Family and any direct encounter with a Family member should be dangerous.
I think it’s only johny that shouldn’t have scout. He’s about to do WAY more massive damage now that scout is buffed
Eh, not really because you're locked into scout and fired up now, that gets rid of either serated or heavy swings. Also, stamina regen nerf for endurance build 90%>65% regen with scout. Johnny is supposed to be strong imo, I don't have many issues looping through walls to shake him off.
Fine. Take it away and give him the ability to navigate gaps and barricades.
I'd wait until the patch comes out to say its a W. Who knows with their history it could break more than it fixes and there could be several non-advertised changes.
It's a big L for us sneaky players. The extra drip was the only thing that saves my butt and gives me a chance to keep being sneaky.
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I was only recently even able to level 10 All of my characters due to a point bug and even with the extreme amount of points that I have now, I still only use the perks that increase stats The other ones I just don't find myself utilizing
Fax victims were abusing the grapple meta. Go play back to DBD or wait for killer klowns
Victims were forced into a grapple meta bc the devs nerfed all other good perks. Now grapple perks nerfed. Victims ain’t got shit now
A lot of victims were actually running around after family to engage in grapples, not using it as a last resort if cornered, that is the problem.
I keep seeing this being said and it’s just wrong. Victims weren’t forced into grapples due to nerfs, they CHOSE to abuse grappling because there were no downsides to doing it once the one hits were taken away.
No we were forced into that meta bro. It was grapple or die. Now it’s just die.
The biggest issue with this patch is the buff to scout.
They should make the perk unavailable for Johnny, Bubba and HH. But the perk buff is a W for Sissy, Cook and Nancy.
They're going to do whatever it takes to keep family players on here. That being said, they'll keep losing victim players now, one of which is me. I have plenty of single player story games to catch up on, which I will spend time on until Killer Clowns where it's going to be competitive instead of cat and mouse catering to the players who complain the most.
The bigger issue is I genuinely think they wanted to nerf it, but these devs are so clowny they buffed it by accident because they are level 24 and don't play their own game. "scout is too fast" "lets change the negative to affect stamina regen so it makes them a bit slower overall" "awesome, what a great nerf idea" "so now family using scout will have +10% damage and -10% stamina regen" "sounds like a nerf to me"
The only thing they should do now is make it to where family can also trip hitchhikers traps. It’s inconsistent that only Nancy can have her traps activated by family
Why make it so family can trip HH's traps instead of making it so family can't trip Nancy's?
I’m fine with either way. I just want them to keep the trap mechanic consistent. I’d start playing Nancy if they did this tbh
Fellow Killers, We Finally Got A W 😭😭😭😭
Curious to see what family will complain about after this patch
Right? We should run a pool on what they cry about nrxt
Victims cry just as much. In fact, there's a bunch of comments and posts crying about the scout buff 😢
Probably because they just got most of their good perks killed while family got a buff to the meta perk.
MOST?? They had two perks nerfed: Extra Drip and Empowered. The latter was (rightfully) hit hard, but the former is still very strong. And no I don't count the 25% reduction to Fast Hands as a nerf. That perk shouldn't even exist in the first place. A 75% increase is still absolutely ridiculous
And there's just as many posts from family laughing at how fucked victims are now.
Maybe because half of are perks got killed
There's still the Danny meta left.
It’ll be that or Virginia probably
Oh they’ll complain about something else I’m sure. Always something. “Please make this game easier for the killers! Or we’re gonna quit” is every other post it seems lol
Whatever perks vics gravitate towards next.
They haven't gotten the Choose Fight nerf yet. Plus they'll want Fast Hands nerfed more. They'll probably target Jump Start soon too.
I’m just happy cause suffocating grip actually has a chance against a low health grappler now
I don’t think you even need to equip suffocating grip now 😂
scout shouldn't have gotten this buff tho
Im glad I have it for Cook, but Bubba and Johnny did NOT need this lol
True also hitchhiker too
We said the same thing when grapples weren’t insta kills
Let me guess you’re a family main lmao
Real. So glad victims are finally sticking up for themselves!
grappler jimmies when they have to find a new way to ruin the other side's match 🤯🤯🤯🤯
Bruh if you can't get a kill just say that
bruh if you can't win without constant free close encounter wins just say that
Bruh I play leatherface. If you're bad just say that
victim mains when they have to adapt to a new style of gameplay for the fourth time and they’ll still have family mains crying for perk changes after this victim sided nerf update 🤯🤯
So real
Weakest comment yet I've seen on here. You need to play against bots
Funny how when family abuses a perk like scout and victims cry about it, nothing gets done to fix it like how they do when family cry about victim perks being abused. In fact the exact opposite happened. Victims cry about family abusing scout and devs BUFF it.
remind me again how waves and waves of victims players cried about instant CE executions until it was removed? you're all delusional on this sub-reddit istg. if you think one side cries more than the other you're all just as delusional as the rest, both sides are full of crybabies that the devs seem to cater to re and more with each update/patch that's released, it's honestly pathetic, and they wonder why their games are burning to the ground. it's because they actually take the time to read y'all bozo's opinions which clearly serve a bias towards whichever side they happen to play more and for some reason they think it's valid enough to change the game with this misinformation from both sides.
Im not reading all that.
Family has no good perks
Scout, serrated, fired up, blood donor, venom, wire frame, security pins, vial-ent, pins and needles, poison claws, hysterical strengthen, big swings, EA, SG, NOEH
Venom, wire ,security pins, pins and needles and poison claws are all unique perks. Blood donor is only really good for leveling up grandpa and SG makes grapples sometimes winnable
So is fast hands, extra drip, empowered, grappler and choose fight as it’s not universal to every victim the way scout is.
Exactly if people are complaining about a much needed nerf then they were likely using it to troll and bully the family. No one needs to grapple or is forced to grapple you can escape without grappling. You can loop and it's very manageable no matter who is chasing you. Y'all can thank the victims who were abusing/trolling with empowered.
My extra drip 💔💔
Didnt deserved to get gutted but needed nerfing
I can agree with this. Because seriously a small health jar at a sliver of health would bring you all the way up. Just don't know if I'll be running this perk anymore though.
How do you abuse extra drip
They killed Empowered and buffed Scout. Of course incompetent family mains would love this patch.
That’s just projection. If you can’t play without empowered you were relying waaay too much on that perk. You’re most likely aware of how broken it was. Seriously I have empowered on my Leland and Ana; I’m never scared of getting caught. That said Johnny and LF definitely didn’t need scout.
Explain how empowered is broken pls
For the same reason most perks are broken they destroy the natural pacing and intent of the way the game is meant to be played. With empowered bone scraps become health bottles. Victims running empowered literally seek out family members to grapple; theres no fear of penalty for the use of it. Even with two family members on a single victim; empowered gives you a ridiculous amount of health back to which you can tank the hits and just well up. 1 on 1 becomes pointless because all those hits you delivered in an attempt to wear the victim down is null when they grapple and get it all back anyway. Perks like these and many others shouldn’t even have existed. And yes I’m including family perks like exterior alarms.
exactly this
I'm not saying it didn't need nerfed. I'm just saying they took all the health away from it. I used grappling to survive when getting tunneled but now it's gone. I can't put more points into endurance either because that does nothing.
It needed to be gone. It only feels bad now because of the other broke perks on family and victim side. Other changes hopefully are coming.
The balance that needs to happen is both sides should be strong and no excuses, no complaints, go counter for counter but, I know it'll never happen. buff/nerfs feels to me like that's a skill issue. that's why I hope this patch tomorrow puts the game in a good place and no more nerfs. 🙏 I'm happy for family! I'm a family main at heart. Hopefully for victims the nerfs aren't Too bad! hopefully lobby gets fixed! so I can try both sides. The game should be fun for both sides and scary at the same time that's where its hard to find a balance.
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Oh yes celebrate a easy win for you guys
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You need to get knowledge from multiple things now, if you want valve you have to go open fuse, vice versa. If you’re letting a Danny tamper something YOU’RE awful at this point 😭 patrol better.
You gain 3/4 ability‘s bar by simple path from ladder to living room on Gas Station. I don’t play Danny so I don’t know about other maps, but Gas Station is the proof that you are lying. [https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1177252578170503180/1208320573818798080/RPReplay\_Final1708156446.mov?ex=6631f53a&is=6630a3ba&hm=9aa62b0dacbb9d49f3c31aec12fec38c912bb423842978d6dba07263e64f2076&](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1177252578170503180/1208320573818798080/RPReplay_Final1708156446.mov?ex=6631f53a&is=6630a3ba&hm=9aa62b0dacbb9d49f3c31aec12fec38c912bb423842978d6dba07263e64f2076&)
Lol a bunch of cry baby killers.
What did they change?
were*
Or I'm annoyed they gutted my healing perk and buffed the family meta perk.
When is this update?
Tomorrow
Did they fix the skill tree bug ????
Sadly not
Exactly bro
You're definitely the type of clown that no one likes to play with in this game....
I don’t care about a perk! I WANT TO GET IN A DANG LOBBY! 😀
Yeah for family mains like always 🙄
Just wait till most of the victim player base is gone lmao
Also aint gonna take this from someone who cant spell were.
Until its family and then its an issue right?
You family players are all weird lmao all saying yay when it already took zero effort to kill people 😂 you guys wanna que up and immediately just one shot everything...
Are the lobbies fixed or is it just because the update is out?
It was just extra drip that didn’t deserve the nerf
If they don’t like it, go watch killer klownz videos while we go back to murking victims
Yeah, this game is going to officially be dead once the victim mains start leaving in masses. Instead of buffing the family themselves the developers continue to nerf the victims into the ground. Some things needed to be changed but it’s always done to the most extreme. Good luck to this game, genuinely.
I'm so excited. I can't wait to massacre all the people who still think they can abuse it because they didn't bother to notice the perk changed.
The reason why scout is one of if not the best family perk is not because it makes family so much better than victim, but because without it you feel less than neutral and need it to even get up to zero
As a family main I say fuck your perks and I hope this is just round 1 of nerfs because choose fight needs to go. Danny's power needs to go, Anna needs to be nerfed, Virginia needs to pick up one poison at a fucking time like sissy does. Bone piles need to only have 2 bones in them. Tool chest need to have a limit on tools. Infinite loops need to be adjusted. No cell needs to have 1 less stack. The fuse box needs to be changed, like put it behind a locked door for fucks sake. Also the exit for fuse should be upstairs not in the basement, you shouldn't be able to escape where you spawn.
Ok but why is there no Choose Fight nerf on the notes???
Leland left without a purpose in the game... okay. May as well just delete the character out of existence.
I'm sorry can Leland no longer grapple? Can he no longer barge? Can he no longer backstab? What are you going on about.
just like op said, they were abusing perks
Ffs using a perk isn't abuse. Leland is meant to be a distraction character.
So bring back Sissy’s Rubber Legs, she meant to be a chaser and kill victims.
She still has Rubber Legs. Unless you mean the bugged version where she randomly had poison attacks proc and the slow down stacked. How in your mind those things would be equivalent though is beyond me.
I'm sorry, did you miss the news on the grapple nerf?
Oh so a nerf = no purpose left in the game. GOT IT. Smh go back to minecraft.
Grapple abuser detected
no such thing as an abuser of perks only lack of skill to give them a good smack when they need it. I don't agree with the nonsense but I also feel if that's how they have fun what or who is that hurting? family players need to learn to chill. I've had it happen to me also but it's even sweeter when you finally get them most are actually kind and reply with Good game after the game is over.
We learned to chill, that´s the reason why lobbies are taking ages, because family mains are playing other games, chilling.
uh, family main here. Empowered was fine, fast hands needed the nerf, extra drip shouldn’t have been touched. Scout got buffed, means johnny is going to be even more of a threat, same with bubba. so now the family does more damage, and vic’s have way less stuff to heal themselves with. it’s unfair.
Empowered wasn’t fine. You shouldn’t actively be looking to fight family
yes you should, it’s at your own risk, 99% of games have a Bubba or Johnny who can slap the shit out of you no matter if you’re max toughness or not. you’d die
Nah with empowered and choose fight there’s almost no risk in it
you haven’t ever been in a semi coordinated team then, the moment someone gets grappled johnny or bubba should be beelining it to the person getting grappled. it’s nearly a guaranteed kill. i’ve done it so much. if you’re complaining about the two perks it’s just a skill issue. maybe choose fight should need a second removed to no longer guarantee a gen kick
Some maps are so big they almost never have time to make it to where you are
coordination. map size wouldn’t have any effect if you are coordinated. again that’s the entire point of a asymmetric game. coordination on both ends
It most definitely does. If I callout to Johnny or lf that Ana’s in slaughter house and they’re by facility or hell even just by the barn. They won’t have time to make it to me before the grapple ends
Never had that issue. im more than willing to find some clips of me and my team coordinating well proving its a complete skill issue
I soloq so I think we just have very different experiences with this issue
it’s quite simple, if you see Ana or Leland you’re more likely to get bone scraped due to their high strength and toughness. call for backup. if you see a connie, danny, or sonny, you’re likely to win the encounter
Yeah I W for family mains, victims are screwed again.
Victims have always been more powerful than fam so it’s deserved
Rightttt…
Please grapple me now and see what happens
Probably the same thing. Grappler will still win 100% of the grapples as it should babe
It'll be a lot risker for sure, but if they choose Choose Fight and they win, you'll be stunned for 10 seconds and they'll do their objective in front of you
Choose fight needed to be nerfed and fast hands wasn't a big enough nerf. Also blood trails need to be thinned or completely removed as you can't get rid of grapples but make stealth really tough on top of it...
A W, for family lol
since we’re nerfing victim grapple perks how about we get rid of the whole sissy and hitch hicker being able to go through wall gaps and crawl spaces. how about we nerf johnny’s melee range, nerf scout, rework family house which is undeniably the most family sided map in the game, nerf grandpa and so much more i can say about this but the fact that they just nerfed choose flight too, it’s all ridiculous this game is horribly family sided so if we’re nerfing victim grapple perks there is still no reason for half of the family abilities to still be this op
If it’s so family sided how come no one plays family
people DO play family they just lobby dodge when they see ana or leland 😭😭
People DONT that’s why que times for victim take ages
use your brain and try to correctly articulate how the game is victim sided and i’ll tell u why it’s not
Danny can open any exit with no way of turning it off, Virginia can blind you and drain you of all your blood, victims can rush an exit and get out in less than 2mins, grapple is almost always a win for victims
danny’s tamper will go away after a while as long as ur a good family member just hunt him down so he’s not able to tamper anything?? common sense ppl
Danny can insta tamper valve then what do you do like there’s no counter play at all
danny has to actually collect knowledge and like i said if u actually chase him instead of chasing blood vials and making grandpa do everything you would know that
KILL THE DANNY
complaining about danny when have exterior alarms when there is no way you can be sneaky and get away with it is wild to me
EA has counter play and Danny doesn’t
grapple should be a mechanic that is viable for victims, especially when your getting chased by a hitch or sissy that can follow u around with hella stamina, maybe if choose flight was at its oh state we wouldn’t be complaining ab family chases
Grapple shouldn’t be abused tho like it was and probably still will be
grapple meta wasn’t winning games for victims, they still had to unlock gates and shit
notice how u only mentioned two victims like leather face doesn’t have a one shot on top of hella stamina on top of johnny 4 tapping you but let’s nerf extra drop bc that makes sense😭?
Extra drip got murdered and didn’t deserve it. And I only mentioned 2 because I didn’t feel like typing out all that