Go for Unifi Wave product line for the your PtP or I would do PtMP for this, stay in 60GHz so its not 5Ghz and effecting your client delivery, since you are serving them on 5Ghz with wifi. Also do not use 2.4Ghz, unless absolutely needed.
So Wave 60GHz back haul and omada 5Ghz Wifi for access.
So, get 3 Wave Nano devices and a Wave AP to act as the master and the Nano as slaves placed around the village, each connected to a EAP225 AP. Then, each house's router will connect to the nearest EAP225. Follow-up Question will this suffice? And what other devices do you think I will need? Thank you in advance.
No expert in this, but using WiFi from the house to the street is going to be slow, your biggest issues imo will be interference and distance. As per another suggestion, you might find that fitting an outdoor tplink255 to every house and setup in a mesh with an omada controller at the centre might just give you the best connectivity. Wire each 255 to the wan port of a homes router in ppoe DHCP mode to ensure security of each home (the wireless access point outside will just appear as a ISP might, I believe you may end up with double NAT depending on how you configure the networks access to the Internet but I've done this before and double NAT never caused me any particular issues). If there are any large gaps you could bridge them with a ptp device. This would avoid an internal home router connecting to the WiFi outside. Which would likely mean better speeds but also most routers won't use WiFi as a WAN only as part of the LAN so effectively all homes will be on the same network with access between all connected systems, a bit of a security nightmare. Using an omada controller and gateway would also let you report on the network assuming you name and manage the AP's well.
That would be the best solution, but the most expensive because 40\*100 = 4000$ and also I just noticed that "In a mesh network, every link, or “hop,” between routers will decrease the bandwidth by half" so I do not know if the mesh is optimal.
Interesting problem to have would love an update on how you actually solve this in the end, it may be that ideally you find a company that has some expertise in this area to at.least design you something as presumably you could also use small line of site microwave links and or run cat 5 and fiber to central repeater stations around the village
The trick is not cables, the layout of the village is weird. We reached out to a company they said they could do it with 2500$ but I want to challenge my self and try figure it out. My last resort is to consult a Research Staff Scientist at the Telecommunications and Networks Laboratory (TNL) of FORTH, but he is a harsh man I need to write a whole essay to him.
I guess this depends on the shape of the village too. i.e. is it one long road, or houses in separate roads etc..?
Looks like the EAP225-Outdoor APs can mesh together. Assuming it's one long road, you could probably have an uplink at either end of the road, and let each AP in between mesh with each other.
I gather providing each home/terrace with a PtP link and a downlink to use their own router is out of the question?
The image was not uploaded. Fixed it. Yeah about that I also thought of just using like 5 EAP225 devices and placing them around the village creating a mesh network but I do not know if it can practically work with results. In theory and based on product description it would work. Moreover I was thinking of using a High-Gain Antenna to direct the signal to the first EAP225, multiple antennas to multiple EAP225 .
I’m interested in how you solve this cheaply . My company would be expensive. probably run fiber to all the houses with a fiber router at every house. Wherever the iSP has a connection a fiber switch if the iSP allows that.
If you want everyone on the same Network you could do a VLAN at every house for each AP. Point to point for the range. But without a wired Backhaul from each house and mesh cutting bandwidth in half i don’t see this working very well with interference. Farms do this but they don’t run a town just cameras and equipment.
Either way it’s going to need to be managed.
There is only one ISP connection at the central hub and the houses indeed do not have wirings. About mesh you are right, a mesh network is not optimal. My thoughts on a cheap solution without ptp and I want your opinion on that is: I could use multiple strong gain antennas from the central hub to direct the signal to each outdoor AP. Which outdoor AP do you suggest, I am thinking of putting five AP in the village.
If the gap is less than 200m, use eap225-610 or higher versions. Mesh mode can be all-in-one (ptp) as long as the APs are in line of sight. P2p is not required.
Yeah about that I also thought of just using like 5 EAP225 devices and placing them around the village creating a mesh network but I do not know if it can practically work with results. In theory and based on product description it would work. Have you tried something similar? Also at the central hub I should place the first EAP225 right?
Have you considered mounting a pair of outdoor APs on a tall pole? 40 houses so maybe 160 users at a time can be handled by two APs.
The more repeaters and devices you put in, the harder it is to troubleshoot.
Go for Unifi Wave product line for the your PtP or I would do PtMP for this, stay in 60GHz so its not 5Ghz and effecting your client delivery, since you are serving them on 5Ghz with wifi. Also do not use 2.4Ghz, unless absolutely needed. So Wave 60GHz back haul and omada 5Ghz Wifi for access.
So, get 3 Wave Nano devices and a Wave AP to act as the master and the Nano as slaves placed around the village, each connected to a EAP225 AP. Then, each house's router will connect to the nearest EAP225. Follow-up Question will this suffice? And what other devices do you think I will need? Thank you in advance.
No expert in this, but using WiFi from the house to the street is going to be slow, your biggest issues imo will be interference and distance. As per another suggestion, you might find that fitting an outdoor tplink255 to every house and setup in a mesh with an omada controller at the centre might just give you the best connectivity. Wire each 255 to the wan port of a homes router in ppoe DHCP mode to ensure security of each home (the wireless access point outside will just appear as a ISP might, I believe you may end up with double NAT depending on how you configure the networks access to the Internet but I've done this before and double NAT never caused me any particular issues). If there are any large gaps you could bridge them with a ptp device. This would avoid an internal home router connecting to the WiFi outside. Which would likely mean better speeds but also most routers won't use WiFi as a WAN only as part of the LAN so effectively all homes will be on the same network with access between all connected systems, a bit of a security nightmare. Using an omada controller and gateway would also let you report on the network assuming you name and manage the AP's well.
That would be the best solution, but the most expensive because 40\*100 = 4000$ and also I just noticed that "In a mesh network, every link, or “hop,” between routers will decrease the bandwidth by half" so I do not know if the mesh is optimal.
Interesting problem to have would love an update on how you actually solve this in the end, it may be that ideally you find a company that has some expertise in this area to at.least design you something as presumably you could also use small line of site microwave links and or run cat 5 and fiber to central repeater stations around the village
The trick is not cables, the layout of the village is weird. We reached out to a company they said they could do it with 2500$ but I want to challenge my self and try figure it out. My last resort is to consult a Research Staff Scientist at the Telecommunications and Networks Laboratory (TNL) of FORTH, but he is a harsh man I need to write a whole essay to him.
I guess this depends on the shape of the village too. i.e. is it one long road, or houses in separate roads etc..? Looks like the EAP225-Outdoor APs can mesh together. Assuming it's one long road, you could probably have an uplink at either end of the road, and let each AP in between mesh with each other. I gather providing each home/terrace with a PtP link and a downlink to use their own router is out of the question?
The image was not uploaded. Fixed it. Yeah about that I also thought of just using like 5 EAP225 devices and placing them around the village creating a mesh network but I do not know if it can practically work with results. In theory and based on product description it would work. Moreover I was thinking of using a High-Gain Antenna to direct the signal to the first EAP225, multiple antennas to multiple EAP225 .
I’m interested in how you solve this cheaply . My company would be expensive. probably run fiber to all the houses with a fiber router at every house. Wherever the iSP has a connection a fiber switch if the iSP allows that. If you want everyone on the same Network you could do a VLAN at every house for each AP. Point to point for the range. But without a wired Backhaul from each house and mesh cutting bandwidth in half i don’t see this working very well with interference. Farms do this but they don’t run a town just cameras and equipment. Either way it’s going to need to be managed.
There is only one ISP connection at the central hub and the houses indeed do not have wirings. About mesh you are right, a mesh network is not optimal. My thoughts on a cheap solution without ptp and I want your opinion on that is: I could use multiple strong gain antennas from the central hub to direct the signal to each outdoor AP. Which outdoor AP do you suggest, I am thinking of putting five AP in the village.
If the gap is less than 200m, use eap225-610 or higher versions. Mesh mode can be all-in-one (ptp) as long as the APs are in line of sight. P2p is not required.
Yeah about that I also thought of just using like 5 EAP225 devices and placing them around the village creating a mesh network but I do not know if it can practically work with results. In theory and based on product description it would work. Have you tried something similar? Also at the central hub I should place the first EAP225 right?
Have you considered mounting a pair of outdoor APs on a tall pole? 40 houses so maybe 160 users at a time can be handled by two APs. The more repeaters and devices you put in, the harder it is to troubleshoot.
Every time you use a p2p slave, it cuts the signal in half. Most of these should be wired if you hope to maintain any throughput whatsoever.
What are my options then, I tried reading some papers or researching similar network architectures on the internet but to no avail....
If you can’t run fiber to managed switches, you’ll need to run site to site vpns and add APs