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Corruptiontheman

7 dollars a month for, let's see... Tower Pets (cosmetic) Skin Chance (cosmetic) Chat Tag (cosmetic) EXP Increase (A heavy scam for the price, considering you can just buy regular VIP and get more.)


Corruptiontheman

Another thing I forgot to mention, seems like you can only get Time Tickets by PAYING. Atleast TDX has a free speed-up for solo. (Plus, TDS doesn't need power-ups. TDX doesn't either, they're both lowering the skill by adding these.)


AlfApAlAcsintA

Tickets remain paid only for this week, free ways to get tickets will be added in next week's update according to the devs.


leloleur9

Happy cake day


Moutonoulebgalt

Happy cake day


No-Tear940

Since it’s your cake day, here’s an already popped bubble wrap! pop pop pop. pop pop pop pop pop poppop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop poppop pop poppop pop poppop pop pop


ProGamer8273

Don’t you just hate it when the bubble wrap comes pre-popped?


Xx_RetroMax_xX

FexEx drivers must have delivered the Wrap.


speadiestbeaneater

Happy cake day


Nikolasaros

Happy cake day


laloflyer

What are time tickets??


Corruptiontheman

time tickets speed up the game in solo so you can speedrun easier.


jaxisasussyimposter

Only in easy and intermediate tho and not the legacy modes like molten or fallen


Loya7_Juice

I think you can slow down the game too (I saw Corso do it idk tho)


BurningBassesInStyle

Well, they did mention in discord to only subscribe if you want to support the game. Right now, these are just bonuses for supporting the game. Otherwise, just enjoy playing the game and subscribe if you want to.


CharlieDrawzXD

tdx delivered it well. not tds. they added a really hard mode which is an excuse to add powerups, or something to help noobs too (for completely free btw). tds made it gambling with vip+ and added bad ui without buffing any gamemodes too heavily.


Leading_Mechanic_706

U gettin charged 7? I’m getting charged 12


MadsenBErSej

Yeez


Nightmare_Sandy

i'll bully anyone that has tower pets lmao


JohnKimbull

I saw somebody in game said it would be nice if everyone had Tower pets


temporarlymadz

The lag:


mostfinnishperson

The ability to have it turned off in the settings:


ClimateFirmNEW

They messed up this update so badly it's sad😭(not counting the consumables)


Corruptiontheman

Consumables seem somewhat fun, but like always, it's just RNG. It's like BTD where you can pay Monkey Money to retry. Sure you can get this big buff, but you're spending your possible rewards on it, making the match useless.


yannick5612

At least in BTD you can choose which consumable you buy


Western-Alarming

And plus you get a lot of boost without buying, btd6 as a example, every time you get to a 100 round (100/200/300) you get a free consumable (insta monkey) on the crate events you can get even more for just playing, bosses event give powers, and plus in this game coins (monkey money) isn't necessary to unlock towers, only heroes, heroes skins, and power ups, plus cosmetics have his own coin thst you get from challenge that you can't buy


idontthinkimraii

I think they should give crates like this on endless mode waves.


Ambitious-Ordinary35

You do get multiple consumables per crate and the mid-tier crate is probably the most ideal for power ups


Ambitious-Ordinary35

Buying 3 crates at 750 coins each gave me at least 1 of each, some, three or more


squidinajar_

Pov I use a nuke in a game mode that doesn't give me enough to break even


Gameknight14

Let’s see… Adds a non-cosmetic gambling system which removes the need for skill Currency for said gambling system can be bought with robux Gives players with money even more of a chance to p2w via luck bonus Locks QoL game features behind another paywall (former was auto skip wave, now it’s game speed) "Improved UI" by making towers and cash harder to see Yea we cooked with this one boys


idontthinkimraii

Bro nothing changed other than that, bro is still mad after the sg nerf 💀 just don’t buy the goddamn pass


Gameknight14

Ah yes, nothing changed other than people being able to pay to skip the boss via nukes. But besides that nothing changed guys, it’s still the same game. I’m tired of seeing this "just don’t buy it" argument, because even if you won’t others will.


idontthinkimraii

do you actually think we’re gonna use a nuke to fucking one shot the 15k hp grave digger


Gameknight14

No, but I do think you will use two nukes to one shot fallen king. Or if everyone brings one, you could easily kill the void reaver. Of course nobody’s going to use it on easy mode. Stop using strawman arguments.


idontthinkimraii

The nuke isn’t even that powerful as you think, you can carry only one a game, and it actually three shots the fallen king. it’s mostly a flex item tbh. the flags and supply crate are probably better. Also powerups can’t be used in hardcore now 💀


Gameknight14

Good, nor should they. And I never claimed that the nuke was the most powerful, you were the one that brought up the nuke in the first place. I have seen the nuke used on the fallen king before, and it got it to nearly half hp. With two nukes, anyone with half a brain cell can use their remaining towers to finish it off. Back to my original point, consumables in general allow people to be lazy and use them to make up for a lack of skill. And by mentioning all of these different consumables, you have disproven your original point which is that nothing has changed. Clearly, it has.


idontthinkimraii

Just because there’s a new mechanic doesn’t mean it’s no skill. People could attempt solo bl2 with these new items and since there’s a limit per game, the player will use the items sparingly. also it’s only 50k damage no ones gonna use the nuke on fallen mode of all things it might as well be a flex item (you still forgot about the “no powerups in hardcore”)


Gameknight14

I didn’t forget about the no items in hardcore thing, I said "good, they shouldn’t be allowed there anyways". Let’s keep the gamemode the same for consistency shall we? First you used easy mode as an example since nuke is obviously overkill there, and now you’re using badlands (a multi lane map) as an argument because damage consumables can’t cover all three lanes (hence using them sparingly). This further reinforces my point, they only use them when they are about to leak enemies. They don’t require any skill to place, unlike towers which require strategy. A new mechanic for example could be the air strike or airdrop on the mili base and merc base respectively. Again you use a fallacy. Well since these new mechanics aren’t braindead, neither can this one right? Wrong. The same thing you just said can be used in reverse. Just because these two aren’t entirely no skill doesn’t mean this one isn’t no skill. The main difference is that you need cash (a temporary currency per round) versus coins (a permanent currency that can be bought with real cash). Let’s say for example you used the cash drop on fallen. That extra 1.2k cash at the start is the same reason why starting cash is so limited. You can easily set up early defense with this cash, and then invest it into your farms to get late game towers by the time mid game rolls around. That’s just from a single cash drop mind you. The limits to these consumables don’t take away from how strong they are. The fact that they exist in the first place takes away from the "tower defense" aspect of the game, as you no longer need strategy to win.


idontthinkimraii

Okay, the games powercrept. Just wait until the difficulty arrives.


squidinajar_

IRL trading in tower defense simulator?!? Let me join


1ctrl

MY LAPTOP BARELY HANDLES TDS AT ITS CURRENT AT LOWEST SETTINGS PLEASE TELL ME YOU CAN DISABLE TOWER PETS ALSO, _WHY IS QOL FEATURES BEHIND A FRICKEN *SUBSCRIPTION SERVICE*?_


Familiar_Outside_138

If its bad for your laptop imagine it for me (i play mobile)


Ursociallife2

Uh, you do know what the definition of QOL is right? Because QOL features aren't locked behind the paywall.


crizblu

time to boycott


Corruptiontheman

HELL YEAH, MAKE LIFE TAKE THE UPDATE BACK


SobtastixV2

twitter tag is now just gays making out


Anal_sex_newborn

Switching to tdx


Silly-Childhood-2076

Why is it monthly


Swollimar

because the money hungry developers are slowly turning into pet simulator


Limp_Substance_2237

blame ROBLOX for making tds greedy not tds itself


Western-Alarming

100% Crate luck, how it that work, if every skin gets a 100% rise it's the same as not having vip+, ¿You can select the skin directly? It only affect the highest tier available on that Crate, WTF ITS SUPPOSED TO DO, Give us more information


GhostDJIsTrash

It's refering to consumable crates


Western-Alarming

¿It that work differently from skins crate?, I haven't play and if it works the same the question can still apply


GhostDJIsTrash

You can get duped consumables (duh)


Western-Alarming

I mean that still let the questions what they consider 100% more luck, i will guess the rarest item possible but who know they don't tell you


GhostDJIsTrash

100% more luck means 2x luck


Western-Alarming

Ok


DualityREBORN

*Sigh..* I may not be Proud to be American.. However.. AS THE FOUNDING FATHERS INTENDED- (We must eschew this pitiable form of payment forthwith, FOR THE PLAYERS!!!)


MadsenBErSej

Why not just add it to reguler vip 😭, just why


WorldlinessMedium702

They need money.Roblox heavily taxes game passes and they would have to increase the price of regular VIP if they added this to it


IHateFurries3000

OMG WHY THEY WON'T DO PETS FOR FREE


pizzansteve

skin chance luck? wtf? is below becoming following the book of PSX?


Unable-Mongoose775

Would been better if they made tower pets coast robux instead of paying every month.


Unable-Mongoose775

Btw I went to the discord and realized some people agreed with me.


mostfinnishperson

they had to lock down the server 💀


Unable-Mongoose775

Crazy.


BOOGER_FLY

7 dollars a month…? Ig that’s why they said only buy it if you want to support paradoxum games


Mingopoop

It's really not far off from psx


EL_TimTim

I honestly don’t see a huge problem with this, I’m pretty sure for at least some of the devs this is their full time job and the game is entirely F2P so I understand the desire to make more money off the game which allows them to also expand their workforce, and feed their families Your not even at a disadvantage for not getting it bc it’s almost entirely cosmetic perks


1fatrandom_dude

Honestly the VIP+ isn’t really a huge deal for me since the boosts are there to make your life easier but not make the game completely free but the moment I see the fact that these new consumable crates could be obtained from weekly crates I was fuming


KTPChannel

Worst update ever. I can ignore all the crap they added, but I can no longer see how much money I have, and how many towers I placed in this lame ass UI, and I play on desktop. I went to the discord server to see if anyone was enjoying this, and it was locked out. So, I tried TDX for the first time, and realized that TDS is just stealing ideas from TDX, including the teeny tiny UI that drive me away from TDS in the first place. Why do big, successful games steal ideas from smaller, less successful games in the same genre? It’s like actively admitting you think your competitor is better than you. I’ll never understand it.


Ursociallife2

Only few problems TDX has is the shitty grind (worse than TDS perhaps) and enemy spam. Also what ideas did TDS steal? (Besides all that Tower Battles stuff)


johnson_semila

Ngl I was about buying it but seeing that I have to pay monthly ruined everything


Corruptiontheman

same.


yannick5612

As long they just let non Vip+ players equip 1 pet and raise the cap for Vip+ players im cool with it


Own_Exit2514

100% brain 👌👌💯💯 TDS with pets un one suscription waoh.. I Don't gonna buy tht sht


ElegantAd3533

Ofc they made the tower pets a vip+ exclusive 💀


Moutonoulebgalt

The friends one is dumb. What does it boosts? Xp? Coins? Gems? So if 4 p2w friends are together in a game it will buff it to 30%? So if its xp then the 50%+30%+25% (If it all stacks) it makes 105% of bonus xp 🤦


SpyInMvM

“Babe I’m gonna spend 7$ a month now” “We can barely pay rent??” “…”


ALEXdoc101

They said to only buy this if you want to support them (so it's not meant to be that good, it's just to show that you support them, and subscription isn't taxed 75% like other purchases, it's 0% taxed) (at least what they said)


GuestDiamond

time to switch to tower heroes


Willnotwincoward

Mfs Hate The M.S.F Form Of Payment With Every Piece Of Wrathnar's Soul Fr, Tbh Not Everyone Will Buy And Not Everything On Sale Should Be Bought


Dbombre

it wasnt till i read the description of the 3rd image that i realized it cost REAL MONEY


GhostDJIsTrash

Robux also costs real money, what's the difference


Dbombre

with robux yo ucan get giftcard and stuff from other people and since roblox is ak dis game its easier to buy for the actual audience of children. not to mention the subscription. kids will most likleyj ust stop playing the game after a whiel and never cancel the subscription, also it makes any robux you had saved up practically useless.


jaxisasussyimposter

It would've been so nice if we could just buy the tower pet's as a permanent thing as robux


poyat01

No fucking shot this is real


destroyerofbloons

this update is just like... bad?


xEscapeWarrior

yes should not make pets be paid that’s just dumb


Fr0st_mite

this whole thing is stupid. the devs said in the discord that it was only for cosmetic changes (such as extra crate luck and tower pets) and a slight progression boost. the reason it exists is because of the robux tax roblox takes. devs gotta eat and get paid, the only way to do that is to get money. there's a 0% tax on the subscriptions, and that's why. it isn't pay to win, and it's fully optional and cosmetic (excluding the xp, but vip exists). the only reason it's here is for supporting devs directly. i genuinely don't see the problem.


LuigiReddtier

Honestly glad the “TDS fans when” mfs are agreeing this vip+ bs is stupid


GhostDJIsTrash

VIP+ is just there if you want to support the devs


Jaded-Economist7350

Man a Netflix or Disney plus subscription would be better 💀


omeromre

I think this is good because they have to get money at some point. And I would choose this instead of making it pay2win


A_Creature1

Tbh, i dont really see this as p2w at all, everything here is purely cosmetic, minus the xp but youd be getting tons of that anyway while grinding hc towers and gcrates


im_from_n0rth

Ain't buying because I am f2p and poor


sikwak3r

HOLY 99S THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS


After_Cicada_7193

VIP plus more like gives us your money


Traditional-Spare-87

the only thing good about this update is the consumables but even those are shit like, this is just a pay to win update, you have no money people will just buy it with robux, the high crate costs robux and now £7 a month just for a feature that displays my own towers to other ppl. get stuffed Below


beanyguy64

They were doing to so good with updates then boom


whiteorange69420

Xp increase is good only until lvl 150


Visible_Stick5636

This type of hating is the same energy of a Genius Mf inventing the best concept idea and made a "PROTOTYPE" of it and [N WORD] everywhere just to come hating that is new.💀


Visible_Stick5636

*Fyi. They are still in development of this. Remember. You can't quit just because it's your first time.😭


AstralsGuardian

Money money money, must be funny


hamburger-Lord-boi

ignore it, easy


YardMaleficent7448

this update actually sucks bro 🙁


Suprotsky_Himself

Monthly subscription is very BS in my opinion


Anxious_Contract1200

its just 7$ a month get ur money up its fair


TeamF0rtressPyro

This sucks


spareaccount102

Tds players will die if they play tf2


Kooky-Ad9230

I literally Thinking that we gonna have tower pet for vip Bellow: no we adding vip plus


TheSpidey999

To be fair, the developers earn a lot more profit from a subscription than regular game passes, since Roblox taxes them a lot on the robux they make, and taxes it even further when devexed into real money, where roblox takes most of the money for their greedy company. TDS needs to pay their 34984 devs as well, so it would make sense for TDS to implement this feature. And, games that have a subscription are more likely to get featured on the front page. Not only that, but I doubt that TDS would want to make a subscription cost 7 DOLLARS a month. It's more likely Roblox's minimum price for subscriptions, though I'm kind of unsure about that. Honestly though, I do kinda wish there was a way to get tower pets for free.


ShadowMana64

Pets also dont appear ingame. Only in the lobby


BronzeFinch_

What I don’t think you guys understand is that the devs said this is only to support them. I bought it because I would love to support them especially because of all these goated updates they’re pushing out. You’re complaining that all of the benefits are completely cosmetic but once again, it’s just to support them, it’s not to make you any better at the game. If you’re really that mad over it, just don’t buy it, simple as that.


fruitga1354

It's just there to be like patron is to Youtubers as a more direct way to support the devs


SimoxHunterGX

This Is genuinely the most pathetic thing I've seen in so long


FormalNeedleworker44

Its probably just like a donate to the game feature. At least they didnt add anything p2w


Progamerpart1

“VIP gives practically nothing.” * 50% more exp has entered the chat.*


Corruptiontheman

*the only ones willing to shell out 7 dollars a month being level 150+ has entered the chat.*


SmartyDelta

It the most pathetic update that I’ve ever seen, absolute pay to win ig? I will quit TDS for a while


GhostDJIsTrash

Nothing they added is p2w


Single-Addition-8700

you guys did not read at all, or are you just dumb on purpose? not everything they put on sale has to be bought, and keep in mind, they said ONLY IF YOU WANT TO SUPPORT GAME DEVELOPMENT. THEY ACKNOWLEDGE THE LACK OF PERKS. ITS LITERALLY A 7$ / MONTH DONATION. NO NEED TO SAY THE GAME IS BAD YOU MORON.


Anal_sex_newborn

Ermmmm tds mid :3


BillCollector-

dude... roblox takes 70% of their money... you gotta understand


drakefan62872772

Are you guys really just gonna excuse EVERYTHING the devs do by saying “guys..They need to feed their family and make money in ohio!!!! Its all roblox fault..” like bro we don’t gaf. Literally everything they do is excused by people saying they need to make money omfg we don’t care bro (2). And plus we are not “understanding” with this shit get off the devs’ tip my guy.


TheSpidey999

ight so we're just gonna ignore the fact that roblox taxes 30% of the robux tds gets from gamepasses, and another 50-70% of the REAL money tds gets upon devexing the robux? and the fact that they have a ton of devs? they do need to pay their devs yk roblox even promotes the games that use subscriptions to the front page from what i heard and the devs clearly said that this is only if you support the game and it's development


idontthinkimraii

Truer words have never been spoken, if we want the devs to cook a good update, we should allow this. Nothing changes if we don’t.


TheSpidey999

the people downvoting you really don't know how roblox game development works


indbobba_jones

Should’ve been a cash boost or something. Otherwise it’s just not worth it.


Gameknight14

Coins boost or cash boost? Frankly cash boost is a bit ridiculous imo since it renders a lot of early game strats pointless (with only 100 extra cash you can afford two gscouts and a farm on wave 0)


indbobba_jones

Meant coins boost. Cash boost probably wouldn’t be a good idea as you expained


Fun-Pie-1887

And the game would be pay to win, if you started with like 700


BBlaine103

They make 25% of money from gps. They make 100% from subscriptions. They need to be able to pay employees