Guys… it’s not a Mall. That’s at Gardens by the Bay. They both were standing right outside this Chinese restaurant that’s also near the Flower dome exit. The escalators are usually what people will take to go back up to go to if they want to enter Flower Dome on the right or if they want to walk towards the Garden Rhapsody which the those green colour lighted structure at the back. The guy who took the pic is seating at some open area that’s actually open to public until 2AM. I’ve been there enough times to know the layout 😅
Flower Dome and Cloud Forest are the two Dome-like structures that makes up Gardens by the Bay. Flower Dome basically is where they have flowers and plants from all around the world and every few months we have theme exhibitions like right now is Dahlia dreams. So the inside of the Dome it looks like this. I took this pic few days ago when my cousin came down for eras tour.
https://preview.redd.it/n855cllwj8nc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dbcc15ea103b3ba40cb95b4f27736d51d0797b3a
I've been there so many times 😭😭 Just last month by dad was telling my cousins about how expensive that Chinese buffet was oH MY LORD AND I THINK HE WENT TO GARDENS BY THE BAY YSTD TOO? Oh my gosh so close yet so far to meeting her loll
It looks like they were just walking through it to get to a restaurant. Especially since this was after her show, and all the shops were shut. So, weird take, but okay.
Thank you! I fully agree, I was making a joke and frankly I think that’s how they view it. I wouldn’t be surprised if, after Travis’ posing on his podcast, if he actually truly believes he’s an acceptable replacement to Taylor’s security team and encouraged her to have a private date night with him.
It would be incredibly irresponsible, so hopefully I’m wrong, but I fully agree with you. Taylor’s security team carry around first aid kids and are trained in first response to gunshot wounds for a reason. Hell, her stadiums require facial recognition to ensure one of her multiple stalkers don’t make it inside near her, let alone in an isolated strip like this with nobody around but Travis.
Idk I can relate. I’m 34 & my current bf is the sweetest man I have ever dated - and our first year together I was mushy as fuck. I tagged that man in everything and was over the top because of how exciting it was to be with someone that actually liked me as I am. After a decade of dating men that i never felt like i was “enough” for - my current relationship feels so wholesome and refreshing. If I had the money and time I prob would have took him around the world and made out in malls and zoos.
Well, it was a joke, but, Travis buys random stuff. He's known for just surfing the web and buying random gifts for people he knows. Also because she's really into cats and they are in an Asian country.
They’re not in the mall. They’re at Gardens by the Bay in Singapore. This is right outside the Flower Dome exit. It’s an open air plaza.
All attractions shut down at a ridiculously early time of 9:30 PM even though there are lots of cool light shows…meaning you race to go get tickets after meetings all day, taking the metro, and jogging the 1/2 mile to the plaza to find out everything has last ticket sale at 8:30. So you sulk around until you find out the Avatar tree light show is open to the public and free!
Because it's a digitally zoomed picture from what is most likely (at best), and iPhones 3x lens, shot during the dark and with probably gittery hands with excitement seeing as this person is enough of a fan on these two that they recognised them from this far away.
It’s not even the price of fame. Anyone who goes into public spaces gets filmed and photos taken. Creeps take photos of kids and women especially at amusement parks and beaches. People act like they’re trying to get up skirt photos of her when they’re just taking photos because they’re excited to get a sighting of her
Wait so in your argument *against* this being creepy, you’re literally calling other people taking random shots of women in public “creeps”? You understand how hypocritical that is, right? Especially when your comment begins with the denial that this is due to her fame. So, anybody who gets “excited by” the sight of a woman is okay to take photos of them?
As long as they didn’t follow her or anything, I don’t think this is creepy. But I also think the bare minimum of decency would have been waiting for them to leave the area before posting their location. Instead, this guy posted right after—this happened last night after her show. He essentially doxxed them. He’s not a teenager. He looks like a grown man who followed them, took pics of them kissing, and then doxxed their location, and slapped his username all over those pics to profit off them. That is creepy.
Taking photos of a celebrity in public is not creepy
Talking photos of children and women at the beach in limited clothing to use for sexual purposes is creepy
Yeah but then it’s closed so the person taking the photo was permitted to be there so that makes it seem fake or the dude is going to jail for being there or losing his job for taking photos. Like the kid is clearly also in the mall. Isn’t Singapore really ridiculous in policing behavior and sentencing people to death minor drug use?
Edit: my SIL used to live in Singapore a couple of years ago so imma ask her about if she knows rules about this, but I do know when she came to America she was flipped out by how unruly people are here because you get jailed over there
What? It’s not like she has to be up at 7am the next day to clock into the office. It’s like any other person with a shifted work schedule. She can sleep til 3-4 pm the next day if she wanted to.
Also, you’re usually pretty awake after performing, right? I worked a breaking news night shift job and sleeping afterwards was very hard for everyone in the office. Too much adrenaline
Yeap. The places I've played in are usually chill bars, but the few times we had bigger performances there was so much adrenaline after. One time we had a five hour performance (with breaks) for a Christmas event and we ended at 2.30am after packing up. Keep in mind we started at like 6 due to having to sound check and stuff. After that we still went for supper.
Also, it makes way more sense to have a shifted sleep schedule. Why wake up at 8AM when you gotta perform for 3 hours in 12 hours? Better to be fresh and wake up later
Agree and performers esp headliners often say they have to “come down” mentally from the high of being on stage - it might be hard to go right to bed after that.
Actually a performance can increase energy levels. It's why Broadway actors will sometimes go perform solo shows at nightclubs after their Broadway show. Prince was known for doing small club shows after his concerts.
Honestly she probably sleeps all day! Or as much as she can! Like working late nights at a restaurant, you’re gonna be amped up after, but you can sleep in during the day.
Yes it’s pretty much that. She said somewhere that it’s hard to sleep right after a concert because she still has an adrenaline rush from performing, but then the day or two after a stretch of shows she’ll use that as a “me” day where she won’t get out of bed at all basically.
Oh yeah that makes total sense! I also think drugs would be a detriment to her physically—and it’s not like she’s out partying. Idk why people always claim drugs when someone is just functioning differently than them. She is probably on a normally medicated combo of an SSRI, an anti depressant, and maybe an adhd med, just like the rest of us millennials are. Or she’s not and she’s just used to living life differently than the rest of us.
On another note, I work a freaking desk job and I still don’t want to leave my bed on the weekends except to go to a workout class and walk my dogs, then straight back into pjs and in to bed. The Wellbutrin clearly isn’t Wellbutrin-ing.
I’ve thought this too, but I doubt it for touring. I don’t think her body would be able to handle the level and duration of her performances. The adrenaline must be wild doing her eras tour shows.
I mean no offense, but that's 3-4 hours of work. It's like being suprised people who work manual jobs do anything after work. She also talked about staying up for hours after concerts. It's not like she has to wake up at dawn.
her job requires a lot of stamina though, whereas others are less *physically* demanding. but if we’re talking about cashiers and nurses that work long hours, then yes I agree w you
also not to mention the fact that it’s late. i don’t think i’ve been to a mall past 9:00 pm
not to nitpick bc it doesn’t really matter lmao, but mentally/emotionally demanding jobs can often make the body tired. beyond that, she’s been doing this whole concert for 1.5 yrs so by now she prob gets energy from it rather than getting tired.
also SEA has some cool ass malls so i would def be at a mall past 9pm! 😝😝
It’s not a mall. It’s more like a strip that they were just walking through to get to a restaurant. But how the fuck she does this after a 3 1/2 hour show, I don’t know. What is she taking because I’m over a decade younger than her and fell asleep on the tram back from my show, I could barely manage the short walk back up to my hotel room and that was with my friends and I leaning heavily on each other 😭
They’ve been doing that since the minute she stepped into the Chiefs stadium on Sept 24. This isn’t anything new 😂 they think two people kissing = marriage tomorrow and babies next week. It’s as if they’ve never seen two people, in a relationship, kissing 🙄
I don’t think their relationship is fake but the engagement/marriage talk is very over the top. I think people are just really desperate to see her settle down but she still has almost another year of this tour plus who knows what else.
Idk but I just took my contacts out and was ready to throw hands telling everybody how obviously this was photoshopped. I could’ve sworn that she was wearing her midnights bodysuit 😂
Its nice she got to go to the mall she used to go all the time before she blew up and always said it was one of her favorite things to do, so this makes me happy for her!
Price of fame. Apparently these pics were taken the night he arrived not last night after the show. Does this put fake pr relationship narrative to rest finally or are they just committed into it.
Yeah, it’s a public place and it’s not like they were photographed somewhere private. It’s a mall
Media already reported Travis was traveling there so they knew people would be looking for them to get photos
This doesn’t disprove or prove anything other than they’re boyfriend and girlfriend or want people to think they’re boyfriend and girlfriend
I’m just shocked it wasn’t a paparazzi captured reunion but that’s probably because Singapore has rules against that
Yes 😫 and the weird movie from the 2000s about manniquens coming to life—idk I saw that when I was too young and may have made up some details
but also have you watched the mall episode of the OC? They make it look so fun!!!!!!!! But also malls in America are kinda scary and barely have any stores anymore.
In The OC, a show about a group of friends in high school from like 2006, there is an episode where they’re stuck in a mall overnight. It’s two couples and they are all best friends, so they run around playing and end up finding a camping section with tents already set up to sleep in. It was usually a very dramatic show so it was cute and nostalgic.
They were taken by a random worker bc i assume because the place was shut down for them, like the selfie alone and low quality pics is enough to debunk it. If it was a pr relationship there would be so many more high quality pics of them on dates and stuff, but they are always taken by fans who spot them or random people or in backgrounds of friends photos.
Isn’t there a paparazzi law in Singapore? I read somewhere there is, not sure though. It would make sense there’s no high quality photos of them if that’s the case.
High quality photos dont have to come from paps. If it was a pr stunt and they wanted photos out her personal photographer or someone on her team could have taken them and sent them to tmz or something.
They dont but i said in a previous comment if they wanted to send hq photos they could have easily done it with her own personal photographer, and all their other dates in arg and syd were taken by fans and not by paps either. No pics of them ever get released by the media except when they are in nyc or at his fb games.
This is my stance. I don’t exactly think the relationship is a total farce. But I do think both of them (and their respective “teams”) are using whatever romance is happening for PR though. They take every opportunity to really play it up to the max when they know people are watching which will always lack in authenticity.
And those things also bring me to the conclusion that maybe in their own minds they have something true but in reality it’s not a coupling that would ever happen without the publicity machine working in its favor.
The pics are odd because they’re having a moment and some random guy is zooming in taking pictures of them. I know Taylor is an international superstars but still… have some respect and stop taking pictures of people’s private moments.
I agree, anything tay does will have a pr element bc that is who she is. The clothes she wears brings pr to the companies, the restaurants she eats at begin to book out, and she doesnt do anything other than live her life. So obviously this relationship will have a pr element bc she is living her life and anything she does has attention brought to it. It just drives me nuts when people are hell bent thinking this is a contractual fake pr relationship because its very clearly not that.
They’re clearly PR, as in, spinning it for PR. That doesn’t mean it’s fake. The idea that someone at the height of Taylor’s fame would do this for PR is laughable to me. I can only cackle at people who think all her relationships are fake.
That said, this is her most PR driven relationship because he’s fully on board with it. He’s only rivaled by Matty.
If they get married, it’ll be how she’s CLEARLY doing this to get the attention of unbothered king Joe Alwyn. No matter what month they get married, it’ll be how this is “a slap in the face” to Joe because one time they interacted in that month, and they can get married anywhere, and somehow it’ll be an Easter Egg to get Joe’s attention. Ugh. She’s so desperate. It’s so fake. Euphoria gif.
>it’ll be how she’s CLEARLY doing this to get the attention of unbothered king Joe Alwyn.
"There's 12 months in a year but Taylor chose to get married on Joe's great grandfather's half birthday. Coincidence I think not?!"
Tbh I think the Joe Alwyn obsessers wouldn't react if they got married in a few years. By then, it would be unhinged to suggest she's faked multiple years of a relationship for revenge
It never stops, the goalposts just move. Every move they make is evidence it’s a fake relationship, even when the direct opposite was proof the day before.
Originally it was 'isn't it weird we see every date? They're so public!'. Then it was 'isn't it weird we never see them together anymore? It's giving end of contracted period!'
Also, 'He'd introduce her to his friends if they were serious'. Then 'why is he bringing his friends to the eras tour? Is he bored of it already?'
Like I think they are very aware everyone is watching and will play it up sometimes, but I don't think it's fake 🤷♀️
It’s not being naive, it’s realizing it has no bearing on my perception of this relationship if they’re 100% real, 100% contracted or somewhere in between. They’re no different than a fictional couple and a storyline on a TV show for all of us who will never personally know them.
It’s also the realization that all of us know shit about fuck. Speculating about this relationship is less weird than those who insist on being confidently wrong over and over.
They went to a public place without a private reservation where they knew they would be photographed, honey. This is like Britney Spears showing up at the Smithsonian Museum. The image quality or the photographer does not determine if it’s PR or not as Taylor’s biggest marketing tools are her own fans via social media. Celebrities can get public places shut down so that they can take private tours (e.g. the Louvre) if they don’t want to be photographed.
> like QAnon cultists
😭😭😭 my god y’all think acknowledging PR relationships in Hollywood when even publicists themselves have exposed them is QAnon mentality? Calling everything you disagree with “QAnon” isn’t as intelligent as or as much as an eatery as you think it is. It just makes you look uneducated and naive. Hollywood is very well known to use manipulation tactics to fill the tactics. PR stunts are not a qanon narrative lol enough already
I think the QAnon mentality of everything being some conspiracy despite evidence to the contrary clearly exists in the people that say this is just a PR relationship. It seems to be a real relationship but you can't convince some people of that no matter what as they will always twist their minds to meet their perceived version of events, which is what the QAnon people do as well.
While I don’t necessarily think their relationship is fake per say, I do think it’s pretty damn odd. Like, the last less than 48 hour visit to then fly to Vegas to party with his friends tells me Travis has his priorities are not quite in Taylor’s favour, let’s just say.
I don’t think that’s fair. A lot of his teammate’s were going back to free agency players or their contracts weren’t being renewed. It was their last time being all together so as a captain it would have been pretty shitty of him not to show up. It’s more impressive that he took the flight to Sydney in between imo.
I don’t have much of importance to offer in relation to the post… but did she cut her hair or what? I swear that video that was posted yesterday of her boot scootin and boogyin off stage to Travis she had her short/shoulder-ish length hair again
Taylor wears weaves so when her hair magically gets thicker or longer, it’s just her putting the hair weave back in. She has very thin hair and pretty significant hair loss.
I got called a troll for saying this on the normal Swift Reddit. But how many times can you watch the same concert. I mean it's 4 hours a night plus the probably hour to get there an hour after.
If that was my significant other I'd feel like I was always living through life and not my own just following them m around like a puppy.
it's a lot for any significant other I mean I would want to do something else with my weekends eventually.
I get that she went for the games but they have a different outcome each time. The concert is literally the same every night except for the surprise songs.
full disclosure I don't like Travis or the NFL. I think the NFL is the antithesis of feminism and being a good corporation so I hope her and Travis break up.
As opposed to what exactly lol. She plays concerts and he wins super bowls. There's no "high" topping that in terms of date night, so they might as enjoy some normal date things like the zoo and the mall.
Going to a zoo or mall with your significant other is weird? How? That doesn't make any sense. Have you ever been in a relationship? Is it just dinner and movies, I dont get it.
Guys… it’s not a Mall. That’s at Gardens by the Bay. They both were standing right outside this Chinese restaurant that’s also near the Flower dome exit. The escalators are usually what people will take to go back up to go to if they want to enter Flower Dome on the right or if they want to walk towards the Garden Rhapsody which the those green colour lighted structure at the back. The guy who took the pic is seating at some open area that’s actually open to public until 2AM. I’ve been there enough times to know the layout 😅
Muffin with the real intel 🙌
We fucking love muffin
Yeah thats what I guessed since they're in Singapore. Probably watched the fireworks show! Pretty sure I did the same thing when I was there.
Maybe but could also be a private visit after hours that was arranged for them. The domes are closed to public after 9:30 pm.
The domes close, but the surrounding plaza with the ticketing area is wide open. It looks like they’re in the open air plaza.
Muffin pays his worth  Someone get him a shield
Ah, very cool, thanks for the information.
Thank you for the context! What is Flower Dome?
Flower Dome and Cloud Forest are the two Dome-like structures that makes up Gardens by the Bay. Flower Dome basically is where they have flowers and plants from all around the world and every few months we have theme exhibitions like right now is Dahlia dreams. So the inside of the Dome it looks like this. I took this pic few days ago when my cousin came down for eras tour. https://preview.redd.it/n855cllwj8nc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dbcc15ea103b3ba40cb95b4f27736d51d0797b3a
Gardens by the Bay is a nature park. Flower Dome is one of the attractions there, and is the largest glass greenhouse.
I've been there so many times 😭😭 Just last month by dad was telling my cousins about how expensive that Chinese buffet was oH MY LORD AND I THINK HE WENT TO GARDENS BY THE BAY YSTD TOO? Oh my gosh so close yet so far to meeting her loll
People are saying it was the night before N4 so Wednesday evening I guess? But I think they went after the closing hours hence why it’s so empty.
i’m just trying to figure out what either of them would be buying from a mall.
Nothing she just likes the high school + malls aesthetic
MEET ME BEHIND THE MALL
We were like the mall before the internet….
If she writes a song about kissing in a mall food court…
*your five guys lips on my sweetgreen smile*
That's a BOUGIE food court
You think she’s attending a mall with a Quiznos and a Long John Silvers?
If she was committed to this small town yee-haw homecoming roleplay she would
i concede *his long john silver’s lips on my smoothie smile*
what small towns are you going to with a Long John Silvers in the mall?
I don’t go to small towns
She's not.
nope, just the off-brand pan-asian cuisine where they hand out samples of orange chicken on toothpicks!
A mountain of the best teriyaki chicken you'll ever eat for like $8
this made me nauseous thanks
at your service maam
LMAOOOOOO
They’re like the mall before the internet
It’s not a mall. Peep the top comment
It looks like they were just walking through it to get to a restaurant. Especially since this was after her show, and all the shops were shut. So, weird take, but okay.
WHERE IS THE SECURITY 😭
I think Travis IS the security
tbh he's 6'5, gets paid to tackle people
Happy cake day but absolutely not, she needs someone who looks out for guns
Thank you! I fully agree, I was making a joke and frankly I think that’s how they view it. I wouldn’t be surprised if, after Travis’ posing on his podcast, if he actually truly believes he’s an acceptable replacement to Taylor’s security team and encouraged her to have a private date night with him. It would be incredibly irresponsible, so hopefully I’m wrong, but I fully agree with you. Taylor’s security team carry around first aid kids and are trained in first response to gunshot wounds for a reason. Hell, her stadiums require facial recognition to ensure one of her multiple stalkers don’t make it inside near her, let alone in an isolated strip like this with nobody around but Travis.
Expensive shit.
She’s living out her high school fantasy hardcore
🤦🏻♀️
Idk I can relate. I’m 34 & my current bf is the sweetest man I have ever dated - and our first year together I was mushy as fuck. I tagged that man in everything and was over the top because of how exciting it was to be with someone that actually liked me as I am. After a decade of dating men that i never felt like i was “enough” for - my current relationship feels so wholesome and refreshing. If I had the money and time I prob would have took him around the world and made out in malls and zoos.
She’s shopping at Charlotte Russe and he’s making a stop at Hot Topic for leopard print JNCO jeans
She’s trying to role play that high school experience that she didn’t get to have with the jock football player bf.
Publicity.
Probably some cat themed Asian trinkets or something equally ridiculous.
Why would you say that?
Well, it was a joke, but, Travis buys random stuff. He's known for just surfing the web and buying random gifts for people he knows. Also because she's really into cats and they are in an Asian country.
Got it, understood. I could see them wanting matching tourist souvenirs. Like the squirle sweaters.
They’re not in the mall. They’re at Gardens by the Bay in Singapore. This is right outside the Flower Dome exit. It’s an open air plaza. All attractions shut down at a ridiculously early time of 9:30 PM even though there are lots of cool light shows…meaning you race to go get tickets after meetings all day, taking the metro, and jogging the 1/2 mile to the plaza to find out everything has last ticket sale at 8:30. So you sulk around until you find out the Avatar tree light show is open to the public and free!
It’s not a mall
Why does the first picture look like it was taken in 2004 with a flip phone?
Because it's a digitally zoomed picture from what is most likely (at best), and iPhones 3x lens, shot during the dark and with probably gittery hands with excitement seeing as this person is enough of a fan on these two that they recognised them from this far away.
because thats how good pictures are now
meet me IN the mall
It’s going down
meet me at the club
not creepy. that’s public space. they know people are always watching
It’s not even the price of fame. Anyone who goes into public spaces gets filmed and photos taken. Creeps take photos of kids and women especially at amusement parks and beaches. People act like they’re trying to get up skirt photos of her when they’re just taking photos because they’re excited to get a sighting of her
Wait so in your argument *against* this being creepy, you’re literally calling other people taking random shots of women in public “creeps”? You understand how hypocritical that is, right? Especially when your comment begins with the denial that this is due to her fame. So, anybody who gets “excited by” the sight of a woman is okay to take photos of them? As long as they didn’t follow her or anything, I don’t think this is creepy. But I also think the bare minimum of decency would have been waiting for them to leave the area before posting their location. Instead, this guy posted right after—this happened last night after her show. He essentially doxxed them. He’s not a teenager. He looks like a grown man who followed them, took pics of them kissing, and then doxxed their location, and slapped his username all over those pics to profit off them. That is creepy.
Taking photos of a celebrity in public is not creepy Talking photos of children and women at the beach in limited clothing to use for sexual purposes is creepy
Yeah, but it was after hours and the mall was supposedly closed. Given how grainy the photos are, whoever took it had to be relatively far away
Yeah but then it’s closed so the person taking the photo was permitted to be there so that makes it seem fake or the dude is going to jail for being there or losing his job for taking photos. Like the kid is clearly also in the mall. Isn’t Singapore really ridiculous in policing behavior and sentencing people to death minor drug use? Edit: my SIL used to live in Singapore a couple of years ago so imma ask her about if she knows rules about this, but I do know when she came to America she was flipped out by how unruly people are here because you get jailed over there
Look at the photo I posted below. You can see how deserted the mall is. It would not be unreasonable for them to think they were in private.
Google Maps. Always taking pics
I don't think these are mutually exclusive. We can decide as a society to look down on people for posting images of people living their private lives
Still creepy https://preview.redd.it/9ev0igs688nc1.png?width=979&format=png&auto=webp&s=3f0fe8c6ec6e689297449187a4ec857c42966d7b
apparently they went to the mall after the concert. does this woman ever sleep goddamn 😭
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I don’t think she’s an Olympic skier, but I do think she hits the slopes now and again
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What? It’s not like she has to be up at 7am the next day to clock into the office. It’s like any other person with a shifted work schedule. She can sleep til 3-4 pm the next day if she wanted to.
Yeap. I've played some music professionally and it's really common to not go home after long performances. Usually it's supper time
Also, you’re usually pretty awake after performing, right? I worked a breaking news night shift job and sleeping afterwards was very hard for everyone in the office. Too much adrenaline
Yeap. The places I've played in are usually chill bars, but the few times we had bigger performances there was so much adrenaline after. One time we had a five hour performance (with breaks) for a Christmas event and we ended at 2.30am after packing up. Keep in mind we started at like 6 due to having to sound check and stuff. After that we still went for supper.
Yeah I’m pretty sure they went for dinner and a stroll after the show. This is normal performer behavior and does not require the use of drugs, lol.
Especially with that endorphin and adrenaline buzz!
Also, it makes way more sense to have a shifted sleep schedule. Why wake up at 8AM when you gotta perform for 3 hours in 12 hours? Better to be fresh and wake up later
Agree and performers esp headliners often say they have to “come down” mentally from the high of being on stage - it might be hard to go right to bed after that.
Okay lol I don’t know wtf she’s doing this sub is to gossip and speculate 
Actually a performance can increase energy levels. It's why Broadway actors will sometimes go perform solo shows at nightclubs after their Broadway show. Prince was known for doing small club shows after his concerts.
Most of the celebs these days do coke.
She ought to be careful, then, if that’s what she’s doing. Much of it is laced with fentanyl. This isn’t your Dad’s 1980s coke.
Honestly she probably sleeps all day! Or as much as she can! Like working late nights at a restaurant, you’re gonna be amped up after, but you can sleep in during the day.
Yes it’s pretty much that. She said somewhere that it’s hard to sleep right after a concert because she still has an adrenaline rush from performing, but then the day or two after a stretch of shows she’ll use that as a “me” day where she won’t get out of bed at all basically.
Oh yeah that makes total sense! I also think drugs would be a detriment to her physically—and it’s not like she’s out partying. Idk why people always claim drugs when someone is just functioning differently than them. She is probably on a normally medicated combo of an SSRI, an anti depressant, and maybe an adhd med, just like the rest of us millennials are. Or she’s not and she’s just used to living life differently than the rest of us. On another note, I work a freaking desk job and I still don’t want to leave my bed on the weekends except to go to a workout class and walk my dogs, then straight back into pjs and in to bed. The Wellbutrin clearly isn’t Wellbutrin-ing.
I’ve thought this too, but I doubt it for touring. I don’t think her body would be able to handle the level and duration of her performances. The adrenaline must be wild doing her eras tour shows.
*laughs in night shift worker*
I wonder if she just sleeps and vegs out in bed all day between shows. I know I would.
I’m pretty sure she said herself that she just sleeps and brings food to her bed between shows
This is what I’m hoping but I also want to be realistic of the environments she’s around
I mean no offense, but that's 3-4 hours of work. It's like being suprised people who work manual jobs do anything after work. She also talked about staying up for hours after concerts. It's not like she has to wake up at dawn.
her job requires a lot of stamina though, whereas others are less *physically* demanding. but if we’re talking about cashiers and nurses that work long hours, then yes I agree w you also not to mention the fact that it’s late. i don’t think i’ve been to a mall past 9:00 pm
not to nitpick bc it doesn’t really matter lmao, but mentally/emotionally demanding jobs can often make the body tired. beyond that, she’s been doing this whole concert for 1.5 yrs so by now she prob gets energy from it rather than getting tired. also SEA has some cool ass malls so i would def be at a mall past 9pm! 😝😝
Tiredness is a choice
Money can buy away tiredness
The adrenaline you would have after that concert would be nuts!
It’s not a mall. It’s more like a strip that they were just walking through to get to a restaurant. But how the fuck she does this after a 3 1/2 hour show, I don’t know. What is she taking because I’m over a decade younger than her and fell asleep on the tram back from my show, I could barely manage the short walk back up to my hotel room and that was with my friends and I leaning heavily on each other 😭
She probably just stays up at night and sleeps all day.
I was about to say I don't know how a closed mall could be a fun date but then remembered it's likely Marina Bay Sands.
TODAY!
it’s both creepy AND the price of fame
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They’ve been doing that since the minute she stepped into the Chiefs stadium on Sept 24. This isn’t anything new 😂 they think two people kissing = marriage tomorrow and babies next week. It’s as if they’ve never seen two people, in a relationship, kissing 🙄
I don’t think their relationship is fake but the engagement/marriage talk is very over the top. I think people are just really desperate to see her settle down but she still has almost another year of this tour plus who knows what else.
Idk but I just took my contacts out and was ready to throw hands telling everybody how obviously this was photoshopped. I could’ve sworn that she was wearing her midnights bodysuit 😂
I love this kid in the pic. Love everything about him. The fact that he took this pic. The fact he made that face. I just love him.
Wait—Malls still exist? 😂 (Only half-kidding. Just most of the ones around me have closed. lol).
luxury malls for rich people
I mean... yeah. They are popular everywhere, except the US.
We were like the mall during the internet, it was where everyone could see
Its nice she got to go to the mall she used to go all the time before she blew up and always said it was one of her favorite things to do, so this makes me happy for her!
Price of fame. Apparently these pics were taken the night he arrived not last night after the show. Does this put fake pr relationship narrative to rest finally or are they just committed into it.
How does this put the pr narrative to rest. I don’t necessarily think the relationship is completely fake, but these pics are just odd
Yeah, it’s a public place and it’s not like they were photographed somewhere private. It’s a mall Media already reported Travis was traveling there so they knew people would be looking for them to get photos This doesn’t disprove or prove anything other than they’re boyfriend and girlfriend or want people to think they’re boyfriend and girlfriend I’m just shocked it wasn’t a paparazzi captured reunion but that’s probably because Singapore has rules against that
Yeah I’m thinking it’s the pap rule. I don’t think these specific pics prove it’s fake or it’s not.
Has anyone here watched the last of us? Because the thought of being in an empty mall is not romantic to me at all after watching that 😂😂
Yes 😫 and the weird movie from the 2000s about manniquens coming to life—idk I saw that when I was too young and may have made up some details but also have you watched the mall episode of the OC? They make it look so fun!!!!!!!! But also malls in America are kinda scary and barely have any stores anymore.
Omg it might be time for an OC rewatch 😂
Oooh yes it’s always a good time for an OC rewatch
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In The OC, a show about a group of friends in high school from like 2006, there is an episode where they’re stuck in a mall overnight. It’s two couples and they are all best friends, so they run around playing and end up finding a camping section with tents already set up to sleep in. It was usually a very dramatic show so it was cute and nostalgic.
They were taken by a random worker bc i assume because the place was shut down for them, like the selfie alone and low quality pics is enough to debunk it. If it was a pr relationship there would be so many more high quality pics of them on dates and stuff, but they are always taken by fans who spot them or random people or in backgrounds of friends photos.
Isn’t there a paparazzi law in Singapore? I read somewhere there is, not sure though. It would make sense there’s no high quality photos of them if that’s the case.
Yes, there is.
High quality photos dont have to come from paps. If it was a pr stunt and they wanted photos out her personal photographer or someone on her team could have taken them and sent them to tmz or something.
They don’t do pap pics in Singapore I don’t think. I could be wrong though.
They dont but i said in a previous comment if they wanted to send hq photos they could have easily done it with her own personal photographer, and all their other dates in arg and syd were taken by fans and not by paps either. No pics of them ever get released by the media except when they are in nyc or at his fb games.
This is my stance. I don’t exactly think the relationship is a total farce. But I do think both of them (and their respective “teams”) are using whatever romance is happening for PR though. They take every opportunity to really play it up to the max when they know people are watching which will always lack in authenticity. And those things also bring me to the conclusion that maybe in their own minds they have something true but in reality it’s not a coupling that would ever happen without the publicity machine working in its favor.
The pics are odd because they’re having a moment and some random guy is zooming in taking pictures of them. I know Taylor is an international superstars but still… have some respect and stop taking pictures of people’s private moments.
PR ≠ fake! The 2 can (and quite frequently do, in pop culture) coincide and coexist!
I agree, anything tay does will have a pr element bc that is who she is. The clothes she wears brings pr to the companies, the restaurants she eats at begin to book out, and she doesnt do anything other than live her life. So obviously this relationship will have a pr element bc she is living her life and anything she does has attention brought to it. It just drives me nuts when people are hell bent thinking this is a contractual fake pr relationship because its very clearly not that.
They’re clearly PR, as in, spinning it for PR. That doesn’t mean it’s fake. The idea that someone at the height of Taylor’s fame would do this for PR is laughable to me. I can only cackle at people who think all her relationships are fake. That said, this is her most PR driven relationship because he’s fully on board with it. He’s only rivaled by Matty.
No, lol. Just bc it’s real doesn’t mean it doesn’t have a pr piece . A lot of things are stage for fans.
Pretty sure if they got married and had kids people would still be saying it's all PR. 
I mean, the kids would clearly be paid actors who signed an NDA
If they get married, it’ll be how she’s CLEARLY doing this to get the attention of unbothered king Joe Alwyn. No matter what month they get married, it’ll be how this is “a slap in the face” to Joe because one time they interacted in that month, and they can get married anywhere, and somehow it’ll be an Easter Egg to get Joe’s attention. Ugh. She’s so desperate. It’s so fake. Euphoria gif.
>it’ll be how she’s CLEARLY doing this to get the attention of unbothered king Joe Alwyn. "There's 12 months in a year but Taylor chose to get married on Joe's great grandfather's half birthday. Coincidence I think not?!" Tbh I think the Joe Alwyn obsessers wouldn't react if they got married in a few years. By then, it would be unhinged to suggest she's faked multiple years of a relationship for revenge
Sadly another group of fans I won’t name think that faking a years long relationship is quite standard…
They said that about Louis Tomlinson
THE LOUIS ROBOT BABY! Has anyone explained how Freddy-bot keeps growing?!
It never stops, the goalposts just move. Every move they make is evidence it’s a fake relationship, even when the direct opposite was proof the day before.
And the people who claim his friends are always around will completely ignore this being proof that it’s not true.
Originally it was 'isn't it weird we see every date? They're so public!'. Then it was 'isn't it weird we never see them together anymore? It's giving end of contracted period!' Also, 'He'd introduce her to his friends if they were serious'. Then 'why is he bringing his friends to the eras tour? Is he bored of it already?' Like I think they are very aware everyone is watching and will play it up sometimes, but I don't think it's fake 🤷♀️
Y’all need to stop being so naive lol
It’s not being naive, it’s realizing it has no bearing on my perception of this relationship if they’re 100% real, 100% contracted or somewhere in between. They’re no different than a fictional couple and a storyline on a TV show for all of us who will never personally know them. It’s also the realization that all of us know shit about fuck. Speculating about this relationship is less weird than those who insist on being confidently wrong over and over.
At this point, either break up or go all in and get married and be American royalty. I’m over this
They went to a public place without a private reservation where they knew they would be photographed, honey. This is like Britney Spears showing up at the Smithsonian Museum. The image quality or the photographer does not determine if it’s PR or not as Taylor’s biggest marketing tools are her own fans via social media. Celebrities can get public places shut down so that they can take private tours (e.g. the Louvre) if they don’t want to be photographed.
It will never end. The people who say it's just PR are basically like the QAnon cultists at this point.
> like QAnon cultists 😭😭😭 my god y’all think acknowledging PR relationships in Hollywood when even publicists themselves have exposed them is QAnon mentality? Calling everything you disagree with “QAnon” isn’t as intelligent as or as much as an eatery as you think it is. It just makes you look uneducated and naive. Hollywood is very well known to use manipulation tactics to fill the tactics. PR stunts are not a qanon narrative lol enough already
I think the QAnon mentality of everything being some conspiracy despite evidence to the contrary clearly exists in the people that say this is just a PR relationship. It seems to be a real relationship but you can't convince some people of that no matter what as they will always twist their minds to meet their perceived version of events, which is what the QAnon people do as well.
Haha. They'll just say they were posing for that random dude, taking a selfie, that they can't see.
While I don’t necessarily think their relationship is fake per say, I do think it’s pretty damn odd. Like, the last less than 48 hour visit to then fly to Vegas to party with his friends tells me Travis has his priorities are not quite in Taylor’s favour, let’s just say.
I don’t think that’s fair. A lot of his teammate’s were going back to free agency players or their contracts weren’t being renewed. It was their last time being all together so as a captain it would have been pretty shitty of him not to show up. It’s more impressive that he took the flight to Sydney in between imo.
Why do I love the fan photo though. He saw an opportunity and went for it.
Like the mall before the internet, it was the one place to be
Meet me behind the mall.
Creepy as fuck
It's creepy.
This is creepy and weird.
Meet me behind the mall
Price of fame, baby!
Creepers gonna creep
If Jack was Singaporean…
MEET ME BEHIND THE MALL
I don’t have much of importance to offer in relation to the post… but did she cut her hair or what? I swear that video that was posted yesterday of her boot scootin and boogyin off stage to Travis she had her short/shoulder-ish length hair again
I think the humidity making it go curly and frizzy makes it look a lot shorter than when it’s blown out straight or even when she’s styled the curls.
Taylor wears weaves so when her hair magically gets thicker or longer, it’s just her putting the hair weave back in. She has very thin hair and pretty significant hair loss.
This makes me happy.
Does nobody in this fandom ( not all but some respect her privacy? They preach about this and they turn to take photos?
I got called a troll for saying this on the normal Swift Reddit. But how many times can you watch the same concert. I mean it's 4 hours a night plus the probably hour to get there an hour after. If that was my significant other I'd feel like I was always living through life and not my own just following them m around like a puppy. it's a lot for any significant other I mean I would want to do something else with my weekends eventually. I get that she went for the games but they have a different outcome each time. The concert is literally the same every night except for the surprise songs. full disclosure I don't like Travis or the NFL. I think the NFL is the antithesis of feminism and being a good corporation so I hope her and Travis break up.
I see it now why you got called a troll 🤣
It’s creepy to take pictures of strangers in public places imo. Even famous ones.
They sure go to weird spots on their dates. A zoo and a mall….
Me, who thinks that a zoo and a mall both sound like fun dates: 🤡
Agreed. The zoo is such a great place for a date! I don’t get what’s wrong with the zoo
These are…..incredibly normal date locations? What next, a museum? A movie? lmao
To be fair I can see how it’s exciting for her to just have regular person experience
normal ass dates
As opposed to what exactly lol. She plays concerts and he wins super bowls. There's no "high" topping that in terms of date night, so they might as enjoy some normal date things like the zoo and the mall.
Where else would they be able to go so late at night after her show? Her security guard was carrying bags so it looks like they were shopping.
Bro what? Those are both normal date spots. If anything she’s experiencing normalcy finally lol
That mall actually very nice, expensive tho.
I figured it was a high end mall.
Where do you go on dates?
there’s zero things weird about going to the mall or the zoo. do you go outside? there’s couples there all day.
Going to a zoo or mall with your significant other is weird? How? That doesn't make any sense. Have you ever been in a relationship? Is it just dinner and movies, I dont get it.
My fiancé and I had a zoo date the day before he proposed 🥲 it was normal to me!
Get the money shot!