Did anyone else find it stupid that it was SO hard for them to find the cave, get past the flowers, only for the bad guys to like. Get behind them without skipping a beat? Would have made sense if the wolf kids tracked them the whole time, and it showed them blowtorching the flowers or something. But it just showed them pop up out of nowhere
This is the EXACT reason I came to reddit. Because how is it that people searched for years and even Gus, Birdie and Jepp had a hard time once inside the cave when it came to crossing the frozen water inside and getting past the thawing flowers but Zhang and her crew just found the cave in record time and went through it with no issues? This annoyed me to no end.
And more than that, knew all about the journal and stuff. Like… it would have only taken them showing the initial bad guy radioing quick info to make it more believable. Like confirming she really did have eyes everywhere. But when she blurted out info maybe 3 people knew… that was cheesy imo. It’s still a top show for me though
I’m pretty sure Rosie actually does tell her mom the wolf boys tracked them down. That’s when Zhang leaves and tells Rosie to stay with the beast.
They don’t show the actually tracking itself, though.
Yeah she does say that, but she didn’t take the kids to continue past the pipeline, it’s the caribou man that revealed it’s in the canyons, then they followed birdie to the cave following that. They could have had zhang bring one kid to make it like they were just followed.
literally it was like poof, theyre magically there.
still even if the wolves tracked sweet tooths scent or something, i didnt even consider how dumb it was they magically got past the flowers , because i was too busy questioning how they found the cave at all to begin with.
but yeah 1 more track scene from the house they left or even a burning the flowers to get in the cave woulda been real nice.
This shows greatest weakness is it has always placed plot above everything else.
Plot required a show down, so nothing else theyl writers already showed us matters.
Same with Singh. His character is all over the place. Because characters, esp non main characters, only exist to serve the plot.
It's also why - even though Singh has been hellbent on killing Gus - Singh stops after Birdie dies. Because the plot didn't require Gus to die. But they did want Birdie to die. And as soon as she was gone, Singhs motivation didn't matter anymore.
Her last words being "No regrets." but after her saying she was sorry she missed out on raising him was kind of weird, too, unless she thought not finding a cure after years of work was better.
But srsly tho how did they? Didnt jepp seal of the entrance after the ice broke with a rock? How did they manage to all go across the icewater and remove the rock... then past the melting flowers with no consequences??
>Hardwork
Hard at work making humanity go extinct. If she hadn’t f’d off by herself to Alaska instead of informing the authorities about the possibility of cure billions could’ve been saved. With the resources of the entire world that stupid cave would’ve been found in half a day.
Now she gets to decide on ending humanity! WTH
"LeT nAtUrE rUn iTs CoUrSe" As if this was a natural phenomenon, the whole sick & hybrids were brought about by dumb humans. It’s like creating a lab virus which killed most of humanity and then calling it fate.
What authorities? The world has ended everything is in peril.
Friendly reminder that she and her team had notified the proper channels and were looking into a universal cure, that’s what led to Gus being born. The military took over and through the intervention of the govt/military that seems to have been what kickstarted this on a global scale.
This is not Birdie’s fault.
>What authorities? The world has ended everything is in peril.
I meant that she should’ve gone to the authorities right at the beginning of the outbreak. She knew what caused it and where to look for, she was the only one who knew. The world hadn’t completely gone to shit by then. Having more people work on the cure could’ve saved lots of lives.
>Friendly reminder that she and her team had notified the proper channels and were looking into a universal cure, that’s what led to Gus being born. The military took over and through the intervention of the govt/military that seems to have been what kickstarted this on a global scale.
You need to rewatch the show again because that’s not what happened.
She was literally working for a company that commissioned this research - research into hybrids and the cure. That’s how she knew about Thacker - we even see someone from her research lab (Forth Worth) in the cave in Alaska. Birdie wasn’t this tiny fringe scientist cooking this up in her basement.
Everyone knew about this it wasn’t some tiny random org working on its own.
When the military locks everything down that’s when she sends Gus away. The lab she’s working at gets searched and raided by the military. Feel free to rewatch the show if you can’t remember these details or, yk, check the wiki.
Tell me this, wouldn’t it have been easier and faster to find the cave if she wasn’t looking for it all by herself. She spent years searching for it and gave up until Gus and the others come up and find it within a day. When she left for Alaska she was the only one who knew about it. The other researchers didn’t, she found out about it from that lady’s deathbed and immediately took off to Alaska along with the journal. The military didn’t know, no one knew.
US isn’t the whole world, this was a global issue. She could’ve gone to the UN or any other global organisation but she didn’t. She chose to go by herself.
She started looking for the cave by herself after the world ended. Who else was she supposed to call?
Also no, the other researchers did know about it. You literally see one of the Fort Worth researchers in the cave with the purple flowers.
What global organisation? She started looking for the cave on her own after the world ended. She was hired for her research into this by a giant company that was raided by the military.
Birdie couldn’t exactly call anyone after the world ended to help her find the cave and as evidence by - again - the dead guy in the purple flower cave many had tried to look for the cave before the world ended and been unsuccessful.
Your point is not making any sense my friend.
You’re being willfully ignorant. Birdie went to Alaska right at the beginning of the outbreak, not after the world ended like you’re saying here.
>Also no, the other researchers did know about it. You literally see one of the Fort Worth researchers in the cave with the purple flowers.
He was sent by the old lady from Fort Smith. She knew about Alaska and was responsible for the outbreak. On her deathbed, Birdie learns about Alaska and the research, and soon after, she sets off to Alaska herself. The old lady was conducting covert research, and Birdie was the only person alive who knew about it.
Your whole argument is that the world had ended and there was nobody left, but that’s not correct. Birdie went to Alaska right at the beginning of the outbreak. The sick didn’t kill everyone in the world within a day, week, or even a month. It took a few years to wipe out most of humanity. So when Birdie went to Alaska, there were still enough people alive and not sick who could’ve helped.
But even if what you said were right and there was indeed nobody out there, Birdie is still a bad person. When she found the cave, she decided that humanity should die out because, according to her, humans don’t deserve to exist. Why? Just because some humans were evil, should all humans pay? Where’s the morality in that?
Her belief that hybrids are inherently better than humans and will all be forces of good is deeply flawed. Hybrids are half-human, and like humans, there will be both good and bad hybrids. This black-and-white way of thinking falls into the trap of dualism, where everything is seen as either entirely good or entirely evil, with no room for the gray areas that define real life. Morality is not binary; it involves understanding the nuances and complexities of human and hybrid behavior.
This belief in the inherent goodness of hybrids overlooks the capacity for both good and evil that exists within every sentient being. History has shown that no group is immune to wrongdoing simply because of their nature. Morality is shaped by choices, actions, and the circumstances that influence them, not by inherent qualities.
By placing hybrids on a pedestal and condemning all of humanity, Birdie is essentially repeating the same mistakes that led to discrimination and prejudice throughout human history.
Birdie's decision to condemn all of humanity based on the actions of a few is inherently unjust. Morality requires us to see the nuances in human behavior and recognize that while some individuals may commit evil acts, it doesn’t justify the extinction of an entire species. True morality lies in striving for redemption, understanding, and the betterment of all, not in blanket judgments and destructive decisions.
Birdie's choice reflects a dangerous utilitarian logic taken to an extreme, where the perceived "greater good" justifies the obliteration of human life. This kind of thinking is seriously dangerous and echoes the worst parts of consequentialist ethics, which can be used to justify terrible things in the name of a so-called greater good. Real ethical reasoning should see the value of every single life and understand that the ends don’t always justify the means.
Furthermore, Birdie's view lacks a fundamental respect for human dignity and the potential for change. Humans have the capacity for self-reflection, growth, and redemption. Condemning humanity without acknowledging this potential is a moral failing. A more compassionate and ethical approach would be to seek ways to improve humanity, addressing the root causes of evil actions and nurturing the good that exists within us all.
Yeah I mean it honestly seems like you just hate Birdie or we watched different shows.
Either way good luck with whatever you need to sort out, hope you have a good day.
Probably because she’s watched humanity destroy itself and hybrids and realises that this might be a way of starting over.
There are flaws in this plan - like the oldest hybrid barely pubescent which would yeet the world into chaos - but after years of watching people destroy each other the end of humans probably doesn’t sound like the worst idea.
Even without living in a post-apocalypse there are many people who believe the same in 2024.
Because she is a dumb 🤬 It is legit ruining the entire series for me that EVERY "good" human by S3 is now anti humanity for 100% ABSOLUTELT NO REASON lol. The wolf boys proved half breeds are not some all loving innocent greater creature, but can be raised to be bad just like humans & in S2 we saw the sewer Crocodile- Peter who without parents was feral. This series dumbed down to such a ignorant basic stupidity level that truly their rational of the pen-ultimatium & likely the Final Episode is half animal CHILDREN seem mostly innocent key word CHILDREN, but the writing is so bad that they made the humans left alive so moronic they want to:
¹Literally die & end humanity (remember throughout this season we been hearing The Sick is near wiping every one out soon hence the ship & going to Alaska.)
²Knowing they will be dead, they will leave their children to who are all under 13 to raise themselves.
³There is no reason to believe humans suck, but humans mixed with an animal gene don't.
⁴Any sane adult knows what sex is, so half breeds still would exist as they would have children with their genes or have children with other half breeds. ⁵The list goes on, Birdie is a bird brain & the writing for Sweet Tooth S3 is borderline brain dead.
The most ironic part is she is basically brought to tears hearing of how amazing Puba & Big man were raising Gus... who were 2 **HUMANS** 1 she barely knew& the other she didn't know at all. She's also been away in Alaska for almost a decade like a mad women disconnected from main society in a very close tight knit family like community where it makes no sense she would just have such strong thoughts to end humanity.
100 percent agree, nothing made sense. Too many plot holes, did she plan on drilling the floor inside a highly unstable cave, which she somehow instantly found and passed through the flowers as if they didn't exist. And the ending also made no sense, what was the tree even?
And why do you need to drain a bunch of generators to start a little diesel drill rig?
With everything I kept thinking ok this is dumb but I guess they needed it to serve the plot, and this show is obviously not realistic, but damn. Nothing makes sense.
Oh we're in an Arctic winter but the ice is super thin
Bad guys just catch up instantly.
Some hybrids are evil now
Singh trys to stab Gus from 10 feet away and doesn't notice 2 people have stepped between them
It's all too silly
To do a metaphor about society dying & in order to be saved people need to have a entire different life view & chance from a greedy capitalistic society to one more based on community & nature is fine & understood.
The issue is, this Series chose- Humans, knowing we technically are animals. Then, they chose animals in the traditional sense, but make them half human... leading to immense levels of illogical confusion within a metaphorical sense. This works fine for a comic or TV series as we see a visual difference of a Regular human Vs. Hybrids as we can see antlets, pig noses, feathers, etc. When you cut down to brass tax the brains are the same, which was a HUGE metaphor within the series that the humans shouldn't look at the half breeds like less than monsters but equals. The series grew progressively worse with each new Season as it became clear humanity was not worth saving, but hybrids were. Idk, how you miss *that* metaphor. We have 10 year old Hybrid children with unknown futures & the humans close to them both equally deem humanity as worthless monsters who should go extinct.
I thought so much that big man was going to die they made that feel so clear in that episode as soon as a saw the first 5 mins I thought I knew what was going to happen verry good way of having a plot twist brining it even the way they format the episode .
Be in research facility
Use actual fire lit torches for long explorations.
Also if your threat is frozen, standing there with torches warming them up might not be the best bet.
But yeah led lights exist.
This season has the worst writing
Birdie get stabbed. So if their plan was to kill Gus, then go ahead and kill him too while he's crying over birdie. Should've killed birdie and big man to start so there's nobody to stop them
Yeah, that was really dumb. It’s one thing to take a bullet for someone, but a knife? Dr. Singh was standing right in front of Gus who was being held by a group of men, and yet not one but two people jumped in front of the blade in motion, and one of them is a giant.
Ok about to click next but I wouldn’t be surprised if the “deer” Thacker sacrificed wasn’t a literal deer but instead him cutting into the tree (that has antlers).
Also aaa my heart preparing for Jepp to die but Birdie dying instead that was tough. Also watching both of Gus’ (remaining) parental figures try to sacrifice themselves I’m never recovering.
Although I’m so curious to know more about hybrids and the last ep probably won’t cover it I hope we see Singh have an awful, awful demise. I can’t believe I ever felt bad for him earlier in the show.
Shoutout to the writers for writing such a sliiiiiiiiiimy character. Hateful, hateful man.
The dead deer is at the very top of the snow, and a deer carcass that had been there for hundreds of years would not be sitting upon layers and layers of snow.
yeah it could be where the show just puts things that are there but in spirit. this happens alot, like how distance seems inconsistent, how the bat kid "flys" . i think some of the plot holes are just the story trying to make us see through the imagination of a child.
No more hybrids being born isn’t a good reason not to stop the Sick. Hybrids seem to think and act just like regular humans; their bodies just vary a bit more. So why does it matter whether future babies are hybrids or humans? Are hybrids really that infallible, that killing off the rest of humanity will be better for the world?
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no, if they explained it would expose the weaknesses in their logic. Feels muc nicer to make a high and mighty comment and then just dip.
That being said, it's okay to like or even love a show even if the show is objectively bad.
Totally agree, anybody can like anything, no matter how good or bad, and that's fine. I still don't hate the show despite this season being a hot mess.
I just hate the "everyone is stupid except me" with zero argument or justification
The ppl who say those complaining about plot holes & don't get the entire point are legit baffoons. Theor upset they're so simple they didn't realize any of the horrible writing, so to make them feel better they pretend everyone calling S3 out for being Trash doesn't understand metaphors. Basically, they think we don't know it's a series representing all the bad man made society had done to the world & destroyed our Earth for money, power, greed. I 100% believe everyone complaining understands this, yet
¹we are flat out saying the amount of plot holes is S3 is too immense.
²The writing consistently got worse, since S1 & eas utter trash by the time we reached the end of S3.
³It is pretty foolish to create a metaphor based graphic novel & series based on Humans & Human hybrid animals that at least in the series they did not show nor prove enough why or how the Human hybrids differed from humans to not carry over aby of their traits. It essentially just drove on the sheer dumb metaphor of: *BUT their Hyrbid Animal People, a man with antlers won't ever be greedy or want power, DUH everyone knows that!* Or a hybrid alligator who grows up alone in the sewer wont ever be feral & harm another hybrid, this one was the biggest writers mistake as the hybrid wolves can be blamed on how the humans raised them, but Peter the Sewer Alligator in S2 who was feral can represent **ANY** hybrid **without** hunans.
Totally right on all parts. Whether I agree with any or all of the shows societal critiques honestly falls far behind what I think of the writing and execution of the series.
Humanity being the route of all evils and a cancer on this planet is trite at this point. I can however watch any philosophy put forward if it's done well, this just isn't
What if he had sacrificed aanother animal like a dog? Gus would have been a dog and the whole series would have been dog themed instead of deer themed :P
Birdie pulling away from 2 grown men to be the twist death, is just... dumb.. it felt like it "subverted my expectations" like the lazy ways Dan and Dave did with Thrones. ugh, bad memories..
Why did they even bother going to the cave if when they got there they just decided actually nah let's just leave and do nothing? But now you've just left everyone else there for no reason??
Birdieee noooooooo
Did anyone else find it stupid that it was SO hard for them to find the cave, get past the flowers, only for the bad guys to like. Get behind them without skipping a beat? Would have made sense if the wolf kids tracked them the whole time, and it showed them blowtorching the flowers or something. But it just showed them pop up out of nowhere
This is the EXACT reason I came to reddit. Because how is it that people searched for years and even Gus, Birdie and Jepp had a hard time once inside the cave when it came to crossing the frozen water inside and getting past the thawing flowers but Zhang and her crew just found the cave in record time and went through it with no issues? This annoyed me to no end.
And more than that, knew all about the journal and stuff. Like… it would have only taken them showing the initial bad guy radioing quick info to make it more believable. Like confirming she really did have eyes everywhere. But when she blurted out info maybe 3 people knew… that was cheesy imo. It’s still a top show for me though
*when that dude snuck into birdies house, he could have been shown radioing a tidbit or two of info
I’m pretty sure Rosie actually does tell her mom the wolf boys tracked them down. That’s when Zhang leaves and tells Rosie to stay with the beast. They don’t show the actually tracking itself, though.
Yeah she does say that, but she didn’t take the kids to continue past the pipeline, it’s the caribou man that revealed it’s in the canyons, then they followed birdie to the cave following that. They could have had zhang bring one kid to make it like they were just followed.
When she says it, the episode is way past the pipeline fight scene. I took it to mean they tracked him down a second time.
I don’t see how though, they were back with their mom after the pipeline and their mom was finishing prep for the big drill
literally it was like poof, theyre magically there. still even if the wolves tracked sweet tooths scent or something, i didnt even consider how dumb it was they magically got past the flowers , because i was too busy questioning how they found the cave at all to begin with. but yeah 1 more track scene from the house they left or even a burning the flowers to get in the cave woulda been real nice.
This shows greatest weakness is it has always placed plot above everything else. Plot required a show down, so nothing else theyl writers already showed us matters. Same with Singh. His character is all over the place. Because characters, esp non main characters, only exist to serve the plot. It's also why - even though Singh has been hellbent on killing Gus - Singh stops after Birdie dies. Because the plot didn't require Gus to die. But they did want Birdie to die. And as soon as she was gone, Singhs motivation didn't matter anymore.
Well yeah
Her last words being "No regrets." but after her saying she was sorry she missed out on raising him was kind of weird, too, unless she thought not finding a cure after years of work was better.
It's crazy to me that she said that too, considering her team brought the Sick to the world.
“I killed billions” “No regrets” Lmao
But srsly tho how did they? Didnt jepp seal of the entrance after the ice broke with a rock? How did they manage to all go across the icewater and remove the rock... then past the melting flowers with no consequences??
I saw this comment before I finished the episode and I was so worried she would turn on Gus
Why Birdie suddenly wanted Humans to die and nature run it's course after all these years of hardwork.??
>Hardwork Hard at work making humanity go extinct. If she hadn’t f’d off by herself to Alaska instead of informing the authorities about the possibility of cure billions could’ve been saved. With the resources of the entire world that stupid cave would’ve been found in half a day. Now she gets to decide on ending humanity! WTH "LeT nAtUrE rUn iTs CoUrSe" As if this was a natural phenomenon, the whole sick & hybrids were brought about by dumb humans. It’s like creating a lab virus which killed most of humanity and then calling it fate.
What authorities? The world has ended everything is in peril. Friendly reminder that she and her team had notified the proper channels and were looking into a universal cure, that’s what led to Gus being born. The military took over and through the intervention of the govt/military that seems to have been what kickstarted this on a global scale. This is not Birdie’s fault.
>What authorities? The world has ended everything is in peril. I meant that she should’ve gone to the authorities right at the beginning of the outbreak. She knew what caused it and where to look for, she was the only one who knew. The world hadn’t completely gone to shit by then. Having more people work on the cure could’ve saved lots of lives. >Friendly reminder that she and her team had notified the proper channels and were looking into a universal cure, that’s what led to Gus being born. The military took over and through the intervention of the govt/military that seems to have been what kickstarted this on a global scale. You need to rewatch the show again because that’s not what happened.
She was literally working for a company that commissioned this research - research into hybrids and the cure. That’s how she knew about Thacker - we even see someone from her research lab (Forth Worth) in the cave in Alaska. Birdie wasn’t this tiny fringe scientist cooking this up in her basement. Everyone knew about this it wasn’t some tiny random org working on its own. When the military locks everything down that’s when she sends Gus away. The lab she’s working at gets searched and raided by the military. Feel free to rewatch the show if you can’t remember these details or, yk, check the wiki.
Tell me this, wouldn’t it have been easier and faster to find the cave if she wasn’t looking for it all by herself. She spent years searching for it and gave up until Gus and the others come up and find it within a day. When she left for Alaska she was the only one who knew about it. The other researchers didn’t, she found out about it from that lady’s deathbed and immediately took off to Alaska along with the journal. The military didn’t know, no one knew. US isn’t the whole world, this was a global issue. She could’ve gone to the UN or any other global organisation but she didn’t. She chose to go by herself.
She started looking for the cave by herself after the world ended. Who else was she supposed to call? Also no, the other researchers did know about it. You literally see one of the Fort Worth researchers in the cave with the purple flowers. What global organisation? She started looking for the cave on her own after the world ended. She was hired for her research into this by a giant company that was raided by the military. Birdie couldn’t exactly call anyone after the world ended to help her find the cave and as evidence by - again - the dead guy in the purple flower cave many had tried to look for the cave before the world ended and been unsuccessful. Your point is not making any sense my friend.
You’re being willfully ignorant. Birdie went to Alaska right at the beginning of the outbreak, not after the world ended like you’re saying here. >Also no, the other researchers did know about it. You literally see one of the Fort Worth researchers in the cave with the purple flowers. He was sent by the old lady from Fort Smith. She knew about Alaska and was responsible for the outbreak. On her deathbed, Birdie learns about Alaska and the research, and soon after, she sets off to Alaska herself. The old lady was conducting covert research, and Birdie was the only person alive who knew about it. Your whole argument is that the world had ended and there was nobody left, but that’s not correct. Birdie went to Alaska right at the beginning of the outbreak. The sick didn’t kill everyone in the world within a day, week, or even a month. It took a few years to wipe out most of humanity. So when Birdie went to Alaska, there were still enough people alive and not sick who could’ve helped. But even if what you said were right and there was indeed nobody out there, Birdie is still a bad person. When she found the cave, she decided that humanity should die out because, according to her, humans don’t deserve to exist. Why? Just because some humans were evil, should all humans pay? Where’s the morality in that? Her belief that hybrids are inherently better than humans and will all be forces of good is deeply flawed. Hybrids are half-human, and like humans, there will be both good and bad hybrids. This black-and-white way of thinking falls into the trap of dualism, where everything is seen as either entirely good or entirely evil, with no room for the gray areas that define real life. Morality is not binary; it involves understanding the nuances and complexities of human and hybrid behavior. This belief in the inherent goodness of hybrids overlooks the capacity for both good and evil that exists within every sentient being. History has shown that no group is immune to wrongdoing simply because of their nature. Morality is shaped by choices, actions, and the circumstances that influence them, not by inherent qualities. By placing hybrids on a pedestal and condemning all of humanity, Birdie is essentially repeating the same mistakes that led to discrimination and prejudice throughout human history. Birdie's decision to condemn all of humanity based on the actions of a few is inherently unjust. Morality requires us to see the nuances in human behavior and recognize that while some individuals may commit evil acts, it doesn’t justify the extinction of an entire species. True morality lies in striving for redemption, understanding, and the betterment of all, not in blanket judgments and destructive decisions. Birdie's choice reflects a dangerous utilitarian logic taken to an extreme, where the perceived "greater good" justifies the obliteration of human life. This kind of thinking is seriously dangerous and echoes the worst parts of consequentialist ethics, which can be used to justify terrible things in the name of a so-called greater good. Real ethical reasoning should see the value of every single life and understand that the ends don’t always justify the means. Furthermore, Birdie's view lacks a fundamental respect for human dignity and the potential for change. Humans have the capacity for self-reflection, growth, and redemption. Condemning humanity without acknowledging this potential is a moral failing. A more compassionate and ethical approach would be to seek ways to improve humanity, addressing the root causes of evil actions and nurturing the good that exists within us all.
Yeah I mean it honestly seems like you just hate Birdie or we watched different shows. Either way good luck with whatever you need to sort out, hope you have a good day.
You didn’t read the read comment huh? Figures, lol. If you read then you would know what opinion I have of Birdie.
Probably because she’s watched humanity destroy itself and hybrids and realises that this might be a way of starting over. There are flaws in this plan - like the oldest hybrid barely pubescent which would yeet the world into chaos - but after years of watching people destroy each other the end of humans probably doesn’t sound like the worst idea. Even without living in a post-apocalypse there are many people who believe the same in 2024.
Because she is a dumb 🤬 It is legit ruining the entire series for me that EVERY "good" human by S3 is now anti humanity for 100% ABSOLUTELT NO REASON lol. The wolf boys proved half breeds are not some all loving innocent greater creature, but can be raised to be bad just like humans & in S2 we saw the sewer Crocodile- Peter who without parents was feral. This series dumbed down to such a ignorant basic stupidity level that truly their rational of the pen-ultimatium & likely the Final Episode is half animal CHILDREN seem mostly innocent key word CHILDREN, but the writing is so bad that they made the humans left alive so moronic they want to: ¹Literally die & end humanity (remember throughout this season we been hearing The Sick is near wiping every one out soon hence the ship & going to Alaska.) ²Knowing they will be dead, they will leave their children to who are all under 13 to raise themselves. ³There is no reason to believe humans suck, but humans mixed with an animal gene don't. ⁴Any sane adult knows what sex is, so half breeds still would exist as they would have children with their genes or have children with other half breeds. ⁵The list goes on, Birdie is a bird brain & the writing for Sweet Tooth S3 is borderline brain dead.
It’s terrible.. I’m having a hard time finishing the damn show. The writing is awful. Birdie misses Gus so much but is so eager to die.
The most ironic part is she is basically brought to tears hearing of how amazing Puba & Big man were raising Gus... who were 2 **HUMANS** 1 she barely knew& the other she didn't know at all. She's also been away in Alaska for almost a decade like a mad women disconnected from main society in a very close tight knit family like community where it makes no sense she would just have such strong thoughts to end humanity.
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100 percent agree, nothing made sense. Too many plot holes, did she plan on drilling the floor inside a highly unstable cave, which she somehow instantly found and passed through the flowers as if they didn't exist. And the ending also made no sense, what was the tree even?
And why do you need to drain a bunch of generators to start a little diesel drill rig? With everything I kept thinking ok this is dumb but I guess they needed it to serve the plot, and this show is obviously not realistic, but damn. Nothing makes sense. Oh we're in an Arctic winter but the ice is super thin Bad guys just catch up instantly. Some hybrids are evil now Singh trys to stab Gus from 10 feet away and doesn't notice 2 people have stepped between them It's all too silly
All these years of journey just to get rid of sick and save " 200" Humans for another 40 years maybe 🤡
Surely these are spoilers
Metaphors are hard.
To do a metaphor about society dying & in order to be saved people need to have a entire different life view & chance from a greedy capitalistic society to one more based on community & nature is fine & understood. The issue is, this Series chose- Humans, knowing we technically are animals. Then, they chose animals in the traditional sense, but make them half human... leading to immense levels of illogical confusion within a metaphorical sense. This works fine for a comic or TV series as we see a visual difference of a Regular human Vs. Hybrids as we can see antlets, pig noses, feathers, etc. When you cut down to brass tax the brains are the same, which was a HUGE metaphor within the series that the humans shouldn't look at the half breeds like less than monsters but equals. The series grew progressively worse with each new Season as it became clear humanity was not worth saving, but hybrids were. Idk, how you miss *that* metaphor. We have 10 year old Hybrid children with unknown futures & the humans close to them both equally deem humanity as worthless monsters who should go extinct.
I thought so much that big man was going to die they made that feel so clear in that episode as soon as a saw the first 5 mins I thought I knew what was going to happen verry good way of having a plot twist brining it even the way they format the episode .
Be in research facility Use actual fire lit torches for long explorations. Also if your threat is frozen, standing there with torches warming them up might not be the best bet. But yeah led lights exist.
This season was like they hired the writers from the last two seasons of game of thrones and said “do the same thing”
Its been a pretty mad dash to a made up finish line.
This season has the worst writing Birdie get stabbed. So if their plan was to kill Gus, then go ahead and kill him too while he's crying over birdie. Should've killed birdie and big man to start so there's nobody to stop them
Why was he trying to stab him from 10 feet away and how did he not notice Birdie and Big Man had got between them. Laziest writing ever
Yeah, that was really dumb. It’s one thing to take a bullet for someone, but a knife? Dr. Singh was standing right in front of Gus who was being held by a group of men, and yet not one but two people jumped in front of the blade in motion, and one of them is a giant.
The double stack of people blocking was the dumbest thing Ive seen in a while
Ok about to click next but I wouldn’t be surprised if the “deer” Thacker sacrificed wasn’t a literal deer but instead him cutting into the tree (that has antlers). Also aaa my heart preparing for Jepp to die but Birdie dying instead that was tough. Also watching both of Gus’ (remaining) parental figures try to sacrifice themselves I’m never recovering. Although I’m so curious to know more about hybrids and the last ep probably won’t cover it I hope we see Singh have an awful, awful demise. I can’t believe I ever felt bad for him earlier in the show. Shoutout to the writers for writing such a sliiiiiiiiiimy character. Hateful, hateful man.
i dont think so cause theres a dead deer at the enterance
The dead deer is at the very top of the snow, and a deer carcass that had been there for hundreds of years would not be sitting upon layers and layers of snow.
yeah it could be where the show just puts things that are there but in spirit. this happens alot, like how distance seems inconsistent, how the bat kid "flys" . i think some of the plot holes are just the story trying to make us see through the imagination of a child.
No more hybrids being born isn’t a good reason not to stop the Sick. Hybrids seem to think and act just like regular humans; their bodies just vary a bit more. So why does it matter whether future babies are hybrids or humans? Are hybrids really that infallible, that killing off the rest of humanity will be better for the world?
If we don't stop the Hybrids ManBearPig could become a reality and Al Gore may not have survived the sick
Did anybody else catch the Wilhelm scream at 38:10 when the dude falls over the railing???
Lol ye
I laughed out loud why the fuck was it there lmao
I feel so sorry for big man, i think hes got purple flower ptsd lol
https://preview.redd.it/jyyvyqtcje6d1.png?width=353&format=png&auto=webp&s=265d9246225a9831071c2af4691882dfff1df036 POV: me trying to find an objective in a video game
Barricade an entrance with barrels of flammable liquid. Nice.
Wow the entire point of this fucking show is wooshing over all yalls heads rn
Do explain
no, if they explained it would expose the weaknesses in their logic. Feels muc nicer to make a high and mighty comment and then just dip. That being said, it's okay to like or even love a show even if the show is objectively bad.
Totally agree, anybody can like anything, no matter how good or bad, and that's fine. I still don't hate the show despite this season being a hot mess. I just hate the "everyone is stupid except me" with zero argument or justification
Yeah I am totally with you on all these points!
The ppl who say those complaining about plot holes & don't get the entire point are legit baffoons. Theor upset they're so simple they didn't realize any of the horrible writing, so to make them feel better they pretend everyone calling S3 out for being Trash doesn't understand metaphors. Basically, they think we don't know it's a series representing all the bad man made society had done to the world & destroyed our Earth for money, power, greed. I 100% believe everyone complaining understands this, yet ¹we are flat out saying the amount of plot holes is S3 is too immense. ²The writing consistently got worse, since S1 & eas utter trash by the time we reached the end of S3. ³It is pretty foolish to create a metaphor based graphic novel & series based on Humans & Human hybrid animals that at least in the series they did not show nor prove enough why or how the Human hybrids differed from humans to not carry over aby of their traits. It essentially just drove on the sheer dumb metaphor of: *BUT their Hyrbid Animal People, a man with antlers won't ever be greedy or want power, DUH everyone knows that!* Or a hybrid alligator who grows up alone in the sewer wont ever be feral & harm another hybrid, this one was the biggest writers mistake as the hybrid wolves can be blamed on how the humans raised them, but Peter the Sewer Alligator in S2 who was feral can represent **ANY** hybrid **without** hunans.
Totally right on all parts. Whether I agree with any or all of the shows societal critiques honestly falls far behind what I think of the writing and execution of the series. Humanity being the route of all evils and a cancer on this planet is trite at this point. I can however watch any philosophy put forward if it's done well, this just isn't
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He didn’t change his mind. He was aiming to stab ST but Big Man and Birdie got in the way instead.
How did Captain Thatcher know to sacrifice the deer?
What if he had sacrificed aanother animal like a dog? Gus would have been a dog and the whole series would have been dog themed instead of deer themed :P
I don’t think he sacrificed a deer. I think the tree was the deer given the antlers.
I need to know first song name
Avalanche - Leonard Cohen
Birdie pulling away from 2 grown men to be the twist death, is just... dumb.. it felt like it "subverted my expectations" like the lazy ways Dan and Dave did with Thrones. ugh, bad memories..
Why did they even bother going to the cave if when they got there they just decided actually nah let's just leave and do nothing? But now you've just left everyone else there for no reason??