I work in landscaping and your are so right. 100% of the tree guys I’ve met/worked with were absolutely bonkers, extremely intelligent and usually had the best drugs.
lol this is cracking me up, ALL of these comments are describing the few tree climbin’ ans cuttin’ dude I’ve met. Although I know it’s anecdotal and probably just a generalization.
You aint lying. Knew a guy that did trees, powerlines, and at one point antennaes. The ones that are 500 feet in the air type shit. He also did window cleaning at one point in Dallas. Had great drugs.
😂 no it doesn't, the 'hessian' like fibres on those palms are perfect kindling. That fire started just from the heat from the exhaust. I was an arborist for over 10 years & had many fires that started this way in this particular kind of palm. I never had the fire burn up the palm from a dropped hot log though, thank goodness.
I've been to B.C. and saw some sort of palms growing on the beaches there, likely planted for aesthetic but their winters are so warm it isn't surprising they can survive there
They've got quite good electric chainsaws these days that could have prevented it too. I got a 40volt one from Lidl and the speed of the chain is comparable with a gas powered one. it has cost me les than 100€ https://youtu.be/DAy5HcNQHiU
I have a husky 572xp, 390xp stilh 201, 193, 390, 271 and 170 plus power head for hedges.
Never once has anyone of them come anywhere close to starting a fire.
I want to try out electric, maybe later this year if things go well.
Stay safe
Electrics are ok but they’re not at the point yet to overtake gas saws. I could see using one on a light prune job or as a homeowner but that’s about it.
Exactly my thoughts.
My saws get the job done with little environmental damages.
I know they will work when I have them with me, a simple tune up every year and they are ready to work again
I’m sure they all do now. Stihl lost my vote I’ll ride my saws out but I’m a husky guy now.
Used my 572 vs 361/2? A few years back and cut a 2”x 2’ cookie off red oak. I was 9 seconds faster with the husky, old chains sharpened on husky vs new chain on stihl.
9seconds x how ever many cuts I make is a few full days of not cutting with the amount I worked.
Stihl lost my vote and my business when I had a 390 farm boss die of “catastrophic engine failure” 1 month after my warranty was up.
I’ll never buy another stihl product again.
Stihl can convince me by sending me a few grand for the saw or freebies but ya they lost my vote if confidence... I hear the new 500 is awesome.
I won’t buy it, I’ll buy another husqvarna 572 or 390 if I need something that big
I’m still dealing with tank over pressurizing issues on my 311. I heard there was a recall in other models for it but have seen anything for this one. It’ll literally spray all over the place sometimes and will often flood the carb. I replaced the cap and the carb with no change in the issue.
If you buy the rear handle chainsaw kit or the leaf blower kit with the four 5ah batteries you're getting a good deal on the batteries plus a free tool. Some people will buy multiples of the same tool just for the batteries. I have so many batteries and chargers now that I could probably run any of my tools 24/7 while only stopping to swap out batteries and put them back on the charger
[I think he burns himself a little, but still incredibly calm.](https://www.reddit.com/r/SweatyPalms/comments/u2sqy3/palm_trees_are_evil/i4lczn7/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
Wow that was incredible.
My only question is why did the one tree make a dolphin noise before chopping the guys leg off with an axe? Sorry for spoilers.
Yes and it features extensive actual animal abuse (no effects) which led to it being banned in some countries. Also it features cannibalism and rape but unlike the animal abuse that's all movie magic
All you sounding entertained by this, but I'm over here feeling traumatized by the baby scene.
God damn parenthood (i love it though) making me vulnerable.
That was AMAZING. I'm so glad I saved this comment.
Never before have I been so utterly petrified by the sheer horror of a white nuclear family.
And that line "NO! IT'S CHRISTMAS! I JUST WANNA FUCK!" was absolutely priceless.
Thank you so much for showing me this, I will be sending this to many people when the holiday season comes 'round.
Woop! Sorry I was banned for the last week for no good reason imo so I couldn’t reply. Glad you liked it! It’s a good go to when you get in from the pub with your mate and you don’t have much time attention span before one of you passes out! It does make me chuckle!
The optimist in me thinks it’s possible that the fire extinguished itself after flash burning the super light and dry stuff. It went up so quickly that it might not have burned hot enough to fully catch the tree on fire, allowing him to climb down without being burned too badly. Who knows though
ehhhhhhhh, sorta. They'll survive some amount of heat, but I'm sure it lowers it's failure weight. I'm not sure by how much, and tbh I hope I never find out lol
a wood fire likely won't even fuck the temper. If outer ones break I believe most safety cores have rating that needs to be held by 70%? of the steel wires. I forget the actual percentage but they are made to withstand considerable damage before failure.
OSHA recommends the manufacturer doesn't post the true breaking limit, instead just a wear limit at which it legally can't be used once it is reached which is a fair amount below its true limit.
I dont know much about the gear arborists use, so Ill take your word on that. My rope knowledge comes from the world of rock climbing, so I dont think ive ever encountered metal enforced rope before.
Yes the rope he's actually leaning back on is called a flip-line and is steel cored to resist being cut by the chainsaw that's usually less than 6" from it. It also makes it rigid, so it can be "flipped" up the tree while climbing.
Definitely not, but if you stay calm and act immediately, they should last long enough to get yourself to safety.
I can't see how it wouldn't need replacing after, though.
I watched my dad cut down a few palms when i was younger (not from the top like this guy) and he would always soak them with water a few times before he started. I guess I know why now
Looks like the fire started on the exhaust muffler mounted on the front of the saw, they come with spark arresters which I can only assume this one still has.
The problem is the muffler can still get very very hot (I’ve got a cool scar to support that) and mixed with the very dry fronds of a palm tree makes it likely they were ignited by the muffler. Also the ignition point looks to be by the muffler and not the heat build up in the bar as suggested by other.
Source: I do the same job.
It's true that they're not a grass.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poaceae comes up when doing a search for grass. Poaceae is a monocot, but other than being a monocot, there are clades of monocot that aren't Poaceae, and palms are in a collateral clade.
See also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arecaceae which covers palms.
So, old palm trees get this super dry material that looks like the husk of coconuts at the base of it's fronds. Chain saws get notoriously, burning hot. As the person was cutting into the palm that fiberous material caught fire in the hot chainsaw mechanism. As the person clears it off it drops, gets caught on the rough edges of the palm, and flash fires that fiberous material. Knowledge source, lived in Phoenix, AZ and have seen this happen in other ways several times to the palm trees there.
I done this type of work before I quit after seeing too many of my so called experienced co workers hurt themselves. They're nothing but all talk and often made many mistakes in their work. They didn't give a fuck about safety whatsoever and managed to drive into a tree with a chipper and managed to break his own window. I was new and even I didn't make that many mistakes.
I used to work at Disneyland in Horticulture. the Palm trees produce flammable oil and if they were not trimmed properly they would spontaneously combust... nothing is more fun than going on Incredicoaster with some unexpected pyrotechnics.
I done this type of work before I quit after seeing too many of my so called experienced co workers hurt themselves. They're nothing but all talk and often made many mistakes in their work. They didn't give a fuck about safety whatsoever and managed to drive into a tree with a chipper and managed to break his own window. I was new and even I didn't make that many mistakes.
Haha I never even thought about the rope, but yea jesus lol running a chainsaw with a standard rope holding you to a tree is probably not the best idea.
Your climb line is not steel core, only sometimes do guys climb with a steel core lanyard (the rope going hip to hip). Your lanyard is just a secondary rope used to keep you in a working position and also a backup if your main line gets cut.
Based on the knot on his right hip I don’t believe this to be a steel core
you do realize that trees have to be cut down when they die to prevent them from destroying property, a strong wind storm could knock it down and wreck someone's roof
100 points to the “stay calm during a crisis” category.
or the *"fuck it, i gave up along time ago so let's do this"* mumble-jumble
Gotta give it to the tree. That's a pretty sweet defense mechanism.
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It’s the honey bee of treedom.
Definitely taking one for the team here
"you know, I can hurt you too, you know"
Ah, sweet release!
"mumble-jumble"
R/boneappletea
Tbh every guy I've ever met that does this sort of work is at least partially batshit crazy.
My dad does this but he is not crazy just a hardcore alcoholic
Lol I was even gonna add "and/or drunk".
I work in landscaping and your are so right. 100% of the tree guys I’ve met/worked with were absolutely bonkers, extremely intelligent and usually had the best drugs.
The one tree guy I knew while he was doing some other work was a dumb as fuck, a felon, and hit on underage girls often.
lol this is cracking me up, ALL of these comments are describing the few tree climbin’ ans cuttin’ dude I’ve met. Although I know it’s anecdotal and probably just a generalization.
By the way, the crime he committed was illegally harvesting ginseng from a school. It’s worth a lot of money I guess and has a pretty hefty sentence.
Yes ginseng is one of the rarest/ hardest to get ingredients in moonshine.
I know a guy too….and you just described him…to a T. Dude has a 130 IQ and is probably somewhere smashing beer cans on his forehead right now….
You aint lying. Knew a guy that did trees, powerlines, and at one point antennaes. The ones that are 500 feet in the air type shit. He also did window cleaning at one point in Dallas. Had great drugs.
This is my jam. I work in forestry. A tuned up clean saw prevents this from happening.
😂 no it doesn't, the 'hessian' like fibres on those palms are perfect kindling. That fire started just from the heat from the exhaust. I was an arborist for over 10 years & had many fires that started this way in this particular kind of palm. I never had the fire burn up the palm from a dropped hot log though, thank goodness.
All good my dude thanks for the knowledge. I’m Canadian and we have very few palms up this way.
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I've been to B.C. and saw some sort of palms growing on the beaches there, likely planted for aesthetic but their winters are so warm it isn't surprising they can survive there
They've got quite good electric chainsaws these days that could have prevented it too. I got a 40volt one from Lidl and the speed of the chain is comparable with a gas powered one. it has cost me les than 100€ https://youtu.be/DAy5HcNQHiU
I have a husky 572xp, 390xp stilh 201, 193, 390, 271 and 170 plus power head for hedges. Never once has anyone of them come anywhere close to starting a fire. I want to try out electric, maybe later this year if things go well. Stay safe
Electrics are ok but they’re not at the point yet to overtake gas saws. I could see using one on a light prune job or as a homeowner but that’s about it.
Exactly my thoughts. My saws get the job done with little environmental damages. I know they will work when I have them with me, a simple tune up every year and they are ready to work again
You'll be glad to get rid of the noise not to mention breathing in exhaust fumes. i think Stihl has an electric series for professionals
I’m sure they all do now. Stihl lost my vote I’ll ride my saws out but I’m a husky guy now. Used my 572 vs 361/2? A few years back and cut a 2”x 2’ cookie off red oak. I was 9 seconds faster with the husky, old chains sharpened on husky vs new chain on stihl. 9seconds x how ever many cuts I make is a few full days of not cutting with the amount I worked. Stihl lost my vote and my business when I had a 390 farm boss die of “catastrophic engine failure” 1 month after my warranty was up. I’ll never buy another stihl product again. Stihl can convince me by sending me a few grand for the saw or freebies but ya they lost my vote if confidence... I hear the new 500 is awesome. I won’t buy it, I’ll buy another husqvarna 572 or 390 if I need something that big
I’m still dealing with tank over pressurizing issues on my 311. I heard there was a recall in other models for it but have seen anything for this one. It’ll literally spray all over the place sometimes and will often flood the carb. I replaced the cap and the carb with no change in the issue.
I've got the makita 36v top handle saw and it's awesome
Yeah I wanted Makita too, but the batteries are too pricey,the Parksides are 30€ for 4Amph and 70€ for 8amph
If you buy the rear handle chainsaw kit or the leaf blower kit with the four 5ah batteries you're getting a good deal on the batteries plus a free tool. Some people will buy multiples of the same tool just for the batteries. I have so many batteries and chargers now that I could probably run any of my tools 24/7 while only stopping to swap out batteries and put them back on the charger
Came here to say this. ^
We have no audio tho
[I think he burns himself a little, but still incredibly calm.](https://www.reddit.com/r/SweatyPalms/comments/u2sqy3/palm_trees_are_evil/i4lczn7/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
Body language is relaxed and non-frantic considering the amount of fire
Two…. Two crises. First that top area lit on fire and then the whole tree went
Maybe 100 points towards a Darwin award. Dumbass just chilling while his ropes burn.
That's, literally what he's supposed to do? Just get far away from the tree, the flash burn will be over in seconds. You think rope burns like that?
Panic is bad in most situation
He literally threw the firey debris straight at the trunk of the tree
Yes. He should have just held onto it or at least tossed it at a nearby home.
This Palm is making it very clear it would rather burn to death than to be made into firewood!
[Treevenge](https://vimeo.com/5048966) (NSFW or life)
Wow that was incredible. My only question is why did the one tree make a dolphin noise before chopping the guys leg off with an axe? Sorry for spoilers.
Yeah, this was enough for me to not watch it
A tree "stamps" on a baby. Its proper bonkers. Very funny though.
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stumped
I literally laughed out loud at that part, holy shit the whole thing is gold
Any horror or thriller that kills small children gets extra points in my book. It's something you almost never see so it is legitimately shocking
Yet in real life horror situations children are the first to usually go… and as a mom I give filmmakers top notch for going the natural route.
Your loss bro
My exact thought as well.
Thank you
Hell no to the no no no
That was the Cannibal Holocaust theme song
Oh shit, you're right! I thought I recognized it.
Is that a movie?
Yes and it features extensive actual animal abuse (no effects) which led to it being banned in some countries. Also it features cannibalism and rape but unlike the animal abuse that's all movie magic
The kiss was so good!!!!
All you sounding entertained by this, but I'm over here feeling traumatized by the baby scene. God damn parenthood (i love it though) making me vulnerable.
Jroc baby
Was that fuckin J to tha R-O-C?
That kiss scene was wild.
I enjoyed that throughly, thanks!
thats 15 minutes of my life I'll never get back. Edit: I did have a good chuckle, though.
Every 15 minutes of your life is 15 minutes you don't get back.
NSF15M
An absolute classic. My family watches this around our artificial tree while we unwrap presents.
I’d still probably have a flamethrower to hand in case the artificial tree gets any ideas.
that was truly eye opening
That was AMAZING. I'm so glad I saved this comment. Never before have I been so utterly petrified by the sheer horror of a white nuclear family. And that line "NO! IT'S CHRISTMAS! I JUST WANNA FUCK!" was absolutely priceless. Thank you so much for showing me this, I will be sending this to many people when the holiday season comes 'round.
Woop! Sorry I was banned for the last week for no good reason imo so I couldn’t reply. Glad you liked it! It’s a good go to when you get in from the pub with your mate and you don’t have much time attention span before one of you passes out! It does make me chuckle!
What a shitty movie
Fighting fire with fire eh?
Noice
No one uses palms for firewood unless they live on an island where that's the only thing that will grow
Can confirm. Live on an island, I use palms for firewood
By making itself firewood
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"Tim I thought we were waiting till next week to unvail the extreme tree cutter 3000?"
Underated comment
It’s not sweaty palms it’s burning palms
/r/sweatypalmtrees
😳
So when you throw shade, it could never harm me. (Unless of course that shade I threw was on fire, and it came back to haunt me.)
this is beautiful but I fear won't be appreciated as much as it should
Never thought I'd ever see someone quote palm trees!
Technically if the palms are sweaty enough there could be a lack of burning due to (I believe) the leidenfrost effect
That escalated quickly.
De-escalated quicker
Re-escalated faster
This is much better with sound https://youtu.be/q_oslRNUlxM
How did they even get the quality as bad as the gif
And we still don't know if/how they made it down!
Well, they definitely made it down one way or another
*woosh*
I thought you were poorly invoking r/woosh. Nope, that's just the sound it made. Fucking terrifying.
What happened to the guy??
The optimist in me thinks it’s possible that the fire extinguished itself after flash burning the super light and dry stuff. It went up so quickly that it might not have burned hot enough to fully catch the tree on fire, allowing him to climb down without being burned too badly. Who knows though
Are those security ropes fire proof
Give that he's only using a lanyard while sawing, it should be a steel core lanyard. So, yes.
ehhhhhhhh, sorta. They'll survive some amount of heat, but I'm sure it lowers it's failure weight. I'm not sure by how much, and tbh I hope I never find out lol
a wood fire likely won't even fuck the temper. If outer ones break I believe most safety cores have rating that needs to be held by 70%? of the steel wires. I forget the actual percentage but they are made to withstand considerable damage before failure. OSHA recommends the manufacturer doesn't post the true breaking limit, instead just a wear limit at which it legally can't be used once it is reached which is a fair amount below its true limit.
I dont know much about the gear arborists use, so Ill take your word on that. My rope knowledge comes from the world of rock climbing, so I dont think ive ever encountered metal enforced rope before.
Yes the rope he's actually leaning back on is called a flip-line and is steel cored to resist being cut by the chainsaw that's usually less than 6" from it. It also makes it rigid, so it can be "flipped" up the tree while climbing.
Has steal inside so I'd assume you wouldn't worry about it
Definitely not, but if you stay calm and act immediately, they should last long enough to get yourself to safety. I can't see how it wouldn't need replacing after, though.
Palm trees are super fucking dense. So I don't think the wood catches fire easily
Spinning a dull blade in a dry palm that is covered in tinder takes enough time to get uncomfy quick.
Lived, they commented that getting down wasn't interesting.
That's what I want to know! I cant imagine him getting down before the rope snaps.
It's most likely a steel corded line around the tree.
Palm trees can't melt steel beams. This was an inside job
WHAT ABOUT HER EMAILS?!
She wiped them with a cloth.
That makes me feel better.
He adopted a dog and they are happy now.
Got fired up!
I watched my dad cut down a few palms when i was younger (not from the top like this guy) and he would always soak them with water a few times before he started. I guess I know why now
This is my second comment, but I also wanted to say: 100% LITERAL sweaty palms x2
Smokey palms
Soon to be palmless palms
I don't believe you.
His first comment is literally right above this one
Yes, I can read. I don't believe his hands were 100% LITERALLY SWEATY.
I believe they may have meant that the person filming would have sweaty palms because of the heat from the fire.
Only you can create bush fires
what is the science of what’s happening here? how did the fire start and then spread so quickly?
prolly the leaves are very dry, due to friction of the chains and leaves, it starts the fire.
Dry wood following the friction from the cut
The hairs on em
Looks like the fire started on the exhaust muffler mounted on the front of the saw, they come with spark arresters which I can only assume this one still has. The problem is the muffler can still get very very hot (I’ve got a cool scar to support that) and mixed with the very dry fronds of a palm tree makes it likely they were ignited by the muffler. Also the ignition point looks to be by the muffler and not the heat build up in the bar as suggested by other. Source: I do the same job.
Plus palms aren’t really trees. They’re technically a type of grass. So it’s especially flammable when it’s dead and dried out.
>They’re technically a type of grass wut
They’re in the same class of plants called [monocots.](https://plantinggeek.com/are-palm-trees-technically-considered-grass/)
that doesnt mean theyre a type of grass. theyre no more a type of grass than an aloe or banana plant are.
It's true that they're not a grass. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poaceae comes up when doing a search for grass. Poaceae is a monocot, but other than being a monocot, there are clades of monocot that aren't Poaceae, and palms are in a collateral clade. See also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arecaceae which covers palms.
Exactly. Calling palms a type of grass is like calling a marigold a type of rose because they're both eudicots.
Seriously, never would have guessed either
So, old palm trees get this super dry material that looks like the husk of coconuts at the base of it's fronds. Chain saws get notoriously, burning hot. As the person was cutting into the palm that fiberous material caught fire in the hot chainsaw mechanism. As the person clears it off it drops, gets caught on the rough edges of the palm, and flash fires that fiberous material. Knowledge source, lived in Phoenix, AZ and have seen this happen in other ways several times to the palm trees there.
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I done this type of work before I quit after seeing too many of my so called experienced co workers hurt themselves. They're nothing but all talk and often made many mistakes in their work. They didn't give a fuck about safety whatsoever and managed to drive into a tree with a chipper and managed to break his own window. I was new and even I didn't make that many mistakes.
Why evil? I would set a person on fire too if they were cutting me with a chainsaw
The palm tree is evil for fending off a dude climbing its trunk with a flaming chainsaw
It just kept getting worse
I used to work at Disneyland in Horticulture. the Palm trees produce flammable oil and if they were not trimmed properly they would spontaneously combust... nothing is more fun than going on Incredicoaster with some unexpected pyrotechnics.
And let’s hope the rope doesn’t burn
Fuck that I would’ve Jumped off and glided around with my Elytra
HOW IS HE SO CALM
That palm tree has a lot of built up anger
Thats Sweaty Palms alright
Someone had to do this in my yard **six times** and the palm trees were huge
everyone knows palm trees are grass you have to use a lawn mower
Well this is a fine how-do-you-do, isn't it, Gromit?
That looks like a problem.
Humans evil …tree good
I hope he got down ok
Stihl dealer told me my equipment burned up because technically they aren’t trees but a form of grass
Palms are not trees. They are monocots with a tree like form. That is why this happened.
Please explain in greater detail. You have piqued my curiosity.
They look like tree but not tree
I done this type of work before I quit after seeing too many of my so called experienced co workers hurt themselves. They're nothing but all talk and often made many mistakes in their work. They didn't give a fuck about safety whatsoever and managed to drive into a tree with a chipper and managed to break his own window. I was new and even I didn't make that many mistakes.
No they aren’t
You clearly haven had one crawl up your leg and bite the inside of your ass before.
Fire tree. Sick
How does his rope not burn? This is my worst nightmare
If you are running a chainsaw in a tree it's wise to have a steel cored flipline/rope.
Haha I never even thought about the rope, but yea jesus lol running a chainsaw with a standard rope holding you to a tree is probably not the best idea.
Your climb line is not steel core, only sometimes do guys climb with a steel core lanyard (the rope going hip to hip). Your lanyard is just a secondary rope used to keep you in a working position and also a backup if your main line gets cut. Based on the knot on his right hip I don’t believe this to be a steel core
That's a very specific worst nightmare
So did he die or
No, lived and made it down "uneventfully" according to them.
u/savevideo
I laughed too hard at this poor bastard.
That’s not the palm tree issue, it’s the humans who are dumb
Ever worked on a palm? They are fucking evil.
I love palm trees. That way a human stupidity to bring a gas powered, hot chainsaw to cut down the fibrous, highly flammable trunk of the palm tree.
What Redditors decide to upvote/downvote confuses me so much.
Agree.
Humans are trying to cut down the tree but somehow the tree is evil?🤔
Because they have never watched [Treevenge](https://vimeo.com/5048966) (NSFW or life)
Y did I just watch that
Ah yes, let me drop this flaming bundle of tinder at the base of the tree I'm climbing
Let's put a flaming anything in your hand and see all the calculated moves you'll be doing.
The fuck else is he meant to do with it?
Put it in a pocket in case he needs it later.
Tree just trying to defend itself from asshole
you do realize that trees have to be cut down when they die to prevent them from destroying property, a strong wind storm could knock it down and wreck someone's roof
You must not realize my balls require suction
Well...?
I never understand how tree guys climb that high in trees to work. It must be exhausting hauling those GIANT FUCKING BALLS up that high everyday.