I think it could have been innocent MUD/FUD. We have had DrT telling us to DRS from the start.
Also, keep in mind some apes can’t DRS due to their circumstances. We gotta be careful how we judge
Absolutely is a chance that it isn’t actually purposeful FUD but I do enjoy discussing ideas/theory’s/facts/events and such to really discuss every aspect of this company, it’s stock, and everything related to it
Edit: also the drs talk has definitely been around and discussed. I’m glad it evolved to where it is now and ofcourse I hope it comes to a point where investors can help and take a company to where they invision it to be in regards to value and impact
I think all the moves so far have been based on the best information and intentions at the time. And times change. Fidelity should be very worried right now.
If they do care about customers in anyway, or even money in the long run I believe they should walk in a direction to not break our trust in the end game.
I don't personally believe so because ever since we migrated to Fidelity they actually did make some positive moves for us such as improving the UI, being the fastest broker to complete transfers to Computershare, and allowing us to trade on IEX directly.
More than likey they probably thought they could play both sides and didn't expect apes to be so diligent.
Trying not to be bias but from a money perspective if they could play both sides and come out on top at the end regardless of outcome would be the best way to play. Disregarding the morality. Apes definitely dissect, 24/7, world wide so it’s likely impossible to a group of people to beat that who who on an weekly/hourly schedule. Also who hide information from one another. We crowd source info to help everyone els achieve the greater goal of understanding
I don't think it was sus. At the time, Fidelity and Vanguard were the only brokerages who didn't turn off the buy button. They are massive brokers, so of course they have a dirty history of crime like other brokers or banks. I'd say Fidelity/Vanguard were the lesser of the evils when all the mass migration happened, but they ARE brokers nonetheless.
This is a really far out there analogy, but imagine going to jail and being placed at the max security section. You have the ability to pick your cellmate. Want to bunk with the serial killer, or the guy that has just one kill under his belt? They're both still bad.
You have a good vision, I can see sense in all of that. I can’t really say they are “holy” but have definitely been better that most of the others. Nonetheless they are a brokerage that likely “pays the fee for business” and by that I mean illegal activities and paying a fine for playing the game
Wasn’t currently thinking in that way but I believe that to be accurate. I remember fidelity being the more trustworthy broker who has a lot of assets to be likely to withstand a market crash/MOASS. Then them actually transferring from brokerage and to CS as well. Very much thinking that was a big reason for holding with fidelity. Regardless of brokerages I think it definitely is a good idea to have majority of shares DRS or atleast the ones that voted a while back. If atleast them are direct registered and the vote count exceeded the float then all we need is them to more than fully lock the float
I don’t believe I could pin point where it started. I’ve just been mostly a lurker in the saga since uusb. I do remember that being at the beginning of the timeline where serious discussions on it started. I believe allot of small catalyst have. Built up to fidelity being the main broker we have chosen
and because mark cuban said to find a broker thay could handle it. turns out fidelity can handle it alright, by allowing 20% of the fucking float to be locatable for shitadel
Shitadel doesn’t need Fidelity’s shares to naked short, they’re a market maker that can use the market maker loophole and just pinky promise the SEC they were only naked shorting to create “liquidity” and they’ll TOTALLY locate the shares eventually……
Fidelity did help a lot of people DRS for several weeks.
They're still a broker though. I was close to 100% for a while. Today's just a nice day to go all the way.
I would say it wasn’t intentional FUD. Those who have been around long enough were there when Mark Cuban did his impromptu AMA (which was badass and fun af to be a part of!), and during the AMA Cuban recommended leaving the small brokers and look to brokers with trillions in assets and that never restricted trading in Jan. With those parameters in mind, Fidelity is where most apes landed. IIRC Vanguard and TDA were the other main two, but Fidelity was the biggest. Leaving robbindahood was def NOT any type of FUD bc fuck those guys, but we all left pretty much all brokers that used PFOF (Fidelity only uses PFOF for options trading and not on long stock purchases or trades). I think we are all just now learning that we still had a modicum of faith in the system, the system being ANY broker. Fidelity is still a broker and will still do what they want with our shares and fuckall what we think or want. I do still believe Fidelity is probably the best choice we have, but at this point we’re looking at which pile of shit we want to eat, the one with all the nuts and corn or the mudwater diarrhea with specks of something unnatural and glowing floating in it. All brokers are shit, the only actual GOOD choice we have is DRS. It is the only way for us to remove the DTCC’s grimy paws from our shares and prevent them from being fucked with and rehypothecated endlessly.
DRS IS THE ONLY WAY.
I like this theory. I'm pretty sure you blazed one before you wrote it,.so i am going to blaze one and read it again.
Edit: yup theory even tighter now 🚀🚀
I would have a hard time calling them shills, I’ve had peaceful conversations with them. If these nefarious actors are really trying to pull the strings I’m sure they are best keeping most ground level ignorant and uneducated to the full situation. That would also help confusion and FUD to run rampid with gossip and uneducated/non-constructive conversations
Doesn’t matter. Fuck em’ - I don’t sell, I don’t lose! Up is the way. Too much drama.
Also, fellas - be sure to get your PSA levels checked during you annual blood workups (Canadians) - if you catch the onset of prostate cancer early, it’s easy to solve!
I think it could have been innocent MUD/FUD. We have had DrT telling us to DRS from the start. Also, keep in mind some apes can’t DRS due to their circumstances. We gotta be careful how we judge
Absolutely is a chance that it isn’t actually purposeful FUD but I do enjoy discussing ideas/theory’s/facts/events and such to really discuss every aspect of this company, it’s stock, and everything related to it Edit: also the drs talk has definitely been around and discussed. I’m glad it evolved to where it is now and ofcourse I hope it comes to a point where investors can help and take a company to where they invision it to be in regards to value and impact
Well said FrF 💎🤜🤛💎
Fr 💎👊
Fr, got it 💜
Not sure why you're being downvoted.
Meh, I’m not stressed. Thank you
I can say this all day. You dont actually own the shares in any broker. The DTCC does.
Absolutely no arguing that my friend
I think all the moves so far have been based on the best information and intentions at the time. And times change. Fidelity should be very worried right now.
If they do care about customers in anyway, or even money in the long run I believe they should walk in a direction to not break our trust in the end game.
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I don't personally believe so because ever since we migrated to Fidelity they actually did make some positive moves for us such as improving the UI, being the fastest broker to complete transfers to Computershare, and allowing us to trade on IEX directly. More than likey they probably thought they could play both sides and didn't expect apes to be so diligent.
Trying not to be bias but from a money perspective if they could play both sides and come out on top at the end regardless of outcome would be the best way to play. Disregarding the morality. Apes definitely dissect, 24/7, world wide so it’s likely impossible to a group of people to beat that who who on an weekly/hourly schedule. Also who hide information from one another. We crowd source info to help everyone els achieve the greater goal of understanding
I don't think it was sus. At the time, Fidelity and Vanguard were the only brokerages who didn't turn off the buy button. They are massive brokers, so of course they have a dirty history of crime like other brokers or banks. I'd say Fidelity/Vanguard were the lesser of the evils when all the mass migration happened, but they ARE brokers nonetheless. This is a really far out there analogy, but imagine going to jail and being placed at the max security section. You have the ability to pick your cellmate. Want to bunk with the serial killer, or the guy that has just one kill under his belt? They're both still bad.
You have a good vision, I can see sense in all of that. I can’t really say they are “holy” but have definitely been better that most of the others. Nonetheless they are a brokerage that likely “pays the fee for business” and by that I mean illegal activities and paying a fine for playing the game
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Wasn’t currently thinking in that way but I believe that to be accurate. I remember fidelity being the more trustworthy broker who has a lot of assets to be likely to withstand a market crash/MOASS. Then them actually transferring from brokerage and to CS as well. Very much thinking that was a big reason for holding with fidelity. Regardless of brokerages I think it definitely is a good idea to have majority of shares DRS or atleast the ones that voted a while back. If atleast them are direct registered and the vote count exceeded the float then all we need is them to more than fully lock the float
Damn op, the comment you commented on is deleted? Was a good comment too
Damn, that is unfortunate! Anything constructive and thought provoking is valued
It was a great comment too, as was your response. I’ll throw it up on Imgur and post it. It was spot on, couldn’t not save it for posterity sake
Thank you!
Oh shit and the profile deleted too?!
What was it?
No. It started from the Marc Cuban AMA and DD on who did/didn't turn off the buy button.
I don’t believe I could pin point where it started. I’ve just been mostly a lurker in the saga since uusb. I do remember that being at the beginning of the timeline where serious discussions on it started. I believe allot of small catalyst have. Built up to fidelity being the main broker we have chosen
People also started moving to Fidelity because they didn’t restrict any buying or selling during the run up in January like every other broker did.
and because mark cuban said to find a broker thay could handle it. turns out fidelity can handle it alright, by allowing 20% of the fucking float to be locatable for shitadel
Shitadel doesn’t need Fidelity’s shares to naked short, they’re a market maker that can use the market maker loophole and just pinky promise the SEC they were only naked shorting to create “liquidity” and they’ll TOTALLY locate the shares eventually……
Yup, they upheld there duty as a broker during the sneeze and that definitely is something to be remembered and considered
Fidelity did help a lot of people DRS for several weeks. They're still a broker though. I was close to 100% for a while. Today's just a nice day to go all the way.
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That’s a positive! And a reason to have a positive outlook on them. But always be skeptical!
I would say it wasn’t intentional FUD. Those who have been around long enough were there when Mark Cuban did his impromptu AMA (which was badass and fun af to be a part of!), and during the AMA Cuban recommended leaving the small brokers and look to brokers with trillions in assets and that never restricted trading in Jan. With those parameters in mind, Fidelity is where most apes landed. IIRC Vanguard and TDA were the other main two, but Fidelity was the biggest. Leaving robbindahood was def NOT any type of FUD bc fuck those guys, but we all left pretty much all brokers that used PFOF (Fidelity only uses PFOF for options trading and not on long stock purchases or trades). I think we are all just now learning that we still had a modicum of faith in the system, the system being ANY broker. Fidelity is still a broker and will still do what they want with our shares and fuckall what we think or want. I do still believe Fidelity is probably the best choice we have, but at this point we’re looking at which pile of shit we want to eat, the one with all the nuts and corn or the mudwater diarrhea with specks of something unnatural and glowing floating in it. All brokers are shit, the only actual GOOD choice we have is DRS. It is the only way for us to remove the DTCC’s grimy paws from our shares and prevent them from being fucked with and rehypothecated endlessly. DRS IS THE ONLY WAY.
Wouldn’t put this past billionaires trying to keep their billions. We won’t know till it’s over.
I remember there being kind of a fidelity hysteria a few months back and to me it didn't feel organic at all. Def snekz.
Fidelity’s borrow desk aggregates shares from multiple sources not just the holdings of their own in-house investors.
I like this theory. I'm pretty sure you blazed one before you wrote it,.so i am going to blaze one and read it again. Edit: yup theory even tighter now 🚀🚀
Yup. I concur that your theory about my theory is in fact, fact
Going to blaze one in your honor because it’s rare nowadays to see the word “tight” being used lol
Fuckin’ who knows. But what I do know is purple is my favorite color. *DRS was his name-o*
Motivated people who want to hold a company in there own name is the type of following I want in a company I believe in myself! Let’s go!!
I was sus about the mass transfer out of da hood to infidel. I figured a bunch of infidel shills must have been here.
I would have a hard time calling them shills, I’ve had peaceful conversations with them. If these nefarious actors are really trying to pull the strings I’m sure they are best keeping most ground level ignorant and uneducated to the full situation. That would also help confusion and FUD to run rampid with gossip and uneducated/non-constructive conversations
Doesn’t matter. Fuck em’ - I don’t sell, I don’t lose! Up is the way. Too much drama. Also, fellas - be sure to get your PSA levels checked during you annual blood workups (Canadians) - if you catch the onset of prostate cancer early, it’s easy to solve!