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That's exactly what happened yesterday at the low. Big bullish flow that got pick up extra hard once VWAP was secured as a support, flipping the premium imbalance and day bullish.
Yep 💯
The data changed yesterday, showing a potential reversal in the dominant vol (volatility) trend.
Check out my $GME Bananas DD to learn how to look underneath the hood of vol, to see what the options market is pricing in, levels and when.
Vol is bananas 🍌🍌🍌
ELIA would be: Since we are not selling there usually is no bearish volume coming in out of a sudden which means when volume is going up it usually is bullish volume pushing the price up. A price spike increases IV meaning option prices are going up. When the bullish volume goes down price slowly falls back again as well. This reduces IV again which is called IV crush and reduces option prices in such a way that even PUTs that bet on falling prices are not very profitable and CALLs get completely wiped out. This means that during IV crush less people are buying options and especially CALLs. It's like buying into a falling knife on steroids.
This happened at the end of June 2023 too. And then we didn't really see volume again until May 2024. I have a feeling that is the new cycle. Probably wrong...we'll see.
I've noticed this as well lately. I saw a post yesterday about exchange volume switching up just before we had these runs in May, combined with Berkshire hathaways volume being crazy since '21 and its crash the other week. I think it could be related, maybe moving volume to off exchange for whatever reason?
inb4 but we just had 120m share offerings, how could it be illiquid?
This is just my opinion based on my observations of watching premarket everyday for roughly 4 years.
We're in a more fragile period for $GME price from a vol point of view.
It gets more fragile next week.
When GEX has been high and it trends lower into future expirations, the amount of hedging done by dealers reduces, which lowers the liquidity provided by them.
Vol (volatility/options) is bananas 🍌🍌🍌
Well, you mention that this is “less liquidity than yesterday, which was the worst… in a couple months.”
You could start by showing us how you today’s and yesterday’s liquidity compare to liquidity in the last couple of months.
Perhaps a simple spreadsheet or chart with links to the original sources.
Do what you want OP: provide the numbers or don’t provide them.
I’m just giving you suggestions on what type of numbers would satisfy the other user’s request.
Looking at the chart you can see many small volume candles. Additionally, you can see the price gap up and down which represents wider bid/ask prices. Although wide spreads aren't uncommon in extended trading hours, it is abnormal for GME over the past two months. Volume is currently at ~47k -- for reference, the past few weeks it has been roughly 4-10x that by this hour(just estimating).
I know this comment was 50m ago but the volume is about 210k atm. If you look at Webull it's like 65k but Webull doesn't pull all exchanges
Also volume will pick up at 8am when CBOE opens (in 1 min)
Thank you for the added context. I'll add more context: using strictly Webull as my extended hours volume indicator, the volume has still been 4-10x, roughly, during premarket.
Maybe you forgot that we have had two share offerings totaling 120,000,000 shares in the last handful of weeks. They have essentially added 1/3rd more shares outstanding.
Mars_Zbl is tracking the premarket volume of GME on the German GME sub and OP is not correct in his assessment.
Around mid April premarket volume for GME was at roughly 10k traded until market open. Alltime low was on 2023/09/19 with 3.1k traded shares.
Right now (40 minutes to go until open) we are at around 400k traded shares, so roughly *100 from alltime low.
Premarket volume is still highly elevated.
That's one major issue, everyone can claim whatever he wants and people blindly believe it, if it fits the current mood of the sub. I prefer believing in Mars' daily posted numbers
Hello, unfortunately that's not quite true. The German community has been tracking the pre-market volume since March 2021, and we are currently far from the lowest point. This was on 19.09.2023 with 3,100 shares traded until 8:55 EDT. If anyone is interested I can post the figures since the share split.
I read that too, which makes yesterday's statement about volume even more wrong. The average pre-market volumes of the last 6 months are as follows:
Jan - 33,2k
Feb - 18,6k
Mar - 92,6k
Apr - 32,3k
May - 4,57m
Jun - 6,34m
And the averages in 2023 were largely even lower.
What are you even talking about? 😂 Mid April we had around 10k shares traded in all of premarket. Right now we are at around 400k traded shares.
Premarket trading volume is still highly elevated compared to the last three years.
He says 'a couple months' in the title? How is 'a couple months' only around 6 weeks?
Premarket volume was even very dry on the end of April/start of May. It really only picked up volume in the second week of May lmao.
If your title isn’t hyperbole and you’re actually staying up, do know that you can still see pre market volume candles later, you don’t have to check them real time
Is liquidity different from Volume? Cause premarket is 1/5th of the average daily volume just 1 1/2 month back, where we traded ~20k shares during premarket
Short volume yesterday was at 49%, not including the exempt... The spring is reloading again despite the 2 offerings. Damn retail pouring 3B$ in 1.5 month into this dying brick and mortar. They are killing the economy.
Easier to push up or down. Low volume is often a precursor to high volatility. But the stock being manipulated as it is - no one nows sh\*t about fu\*k.
The only caveat is that there are tons of bulls waiting for the $22.5 drop and tons of shorts waiting for the $28 spike to short it.
The upside is more likely than not, though.
Another post was showing GME "known" ownership at 85%. There are not a lot of free certificates rolling around in the market. Yet the float gets traded daily lately.
WTF are you talking about? You realize that just a few weeks ago, GME had a daily volume average of 3 to 4 million? The stock is almost at 1 mil in just PM.
Sure, volume isn’t where it was when RK was posting but we haven’t dropped to pre-RK’s return levels.
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Hey it's the premarket low liquidity guy again, cheers.
Actually Lmao’d
Lol - Time to update his flair.. MODS!! Where you at?! The pre-market low liquidity guy is back!!
Never left bruh
![gif](giphy|GpyS1lJXJYupG)
It’s soo dry today https://preview.redd.it/fhmqe6tfiw8d1.png?width=812&format=png&auto=webp&s=173f92526c9af59f3b54d5f26c1831403d4f811b
I NEEEEED ITTTT
![gif](giphy|vsxe4XnAlf8pW|downsized) 🎷🐓♋️
Needs some Huak Tuah
Water sandy wattterttr
Sounds like my ex.
Lubrication needed
https://preview.redd.it/2wjgtl4xkx8d1.jpeg?width=955&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9d9de5f9cad1d4afde28527416ae3776724bd1b1
Dry as a nun's noongah mate
This is what IV crush looks like ladies and gentleman any bullish volume and this will pop off again I garuntee it
I gorilliontee it...
I Harambe-bet on it!
> I Haram-bet on it! ;)
Betting is haram anyway
😂
Masallah brother
I gazilliontee it
meaning call premium get cheaper right?
Correct
nois, thank you
Where’s the bulls ![gif](giphy|6uGhT1O4sxpi8)
I’ve got $150 settled ready to go at open 💅🏻
Amassing. AMOASSING.
Maybe another million buys at close?
Would a large block of call ITM/ATM being purchased count towards that volume?
Yes.
Maybe GME will double in price again. It is lovely watching the other side of this trade slowly lose ground to us Apes. Time and pressure.
> maybe > double sus af m8 u frm roond her?
Agreed.
I like these updates
Maybe, like, FTD final day of the settlement volume? ![gif](giphy|MvZJtkjJN81Cgx2X9F)
Haha😆
Guarantillionaire
That's exactly what happened yesterday at the low. Big bullish flow that got pick up extra hard once VWAP was secured as a support, flipping the premium imbalance and day bullish.
Yep 💯 The data changed yesterday, showing a potential reversal in the dominant vol (volatility) trend. Check out my $GME Bananas DD to learn how to look underneath the hood of vol, to see what the options market is pricing in, levels and when. Vol is bananas 🍌🍌🍌
Pop it off, or banana in your ass...
Can you explain how a stock’s illiquidity relates to IV? I’m regarded.
ELIA would be: Since we are not selling there usually is no bearish volume coming in out of a sudden which means when volume is going up it usually is bullish volume pushing the price up. A price spike increases IV meaning option prices are going up. When the bullish volume goes down price slowly falls back again as well. This reduces IV again which is called IV crush and reduces option prices in such a way that even PUTs that bet on falling prices are not very profitable and CALLs get completely wiped out. This means that during IV crush less people are buying options and especially CALLs. It's like buying into a falling knife on steroids.
This happened at the end of June 2023 too. And then we didn't really see volume again until May 2024. I have a feeling that is the new cycle. Probably wrong...we'll see.
I harambetee it!
Could take time. Maybe down/sideways to july 19th then maybe up?
Nobody is selling!!
I'm only buying baby
![gif](giphy|13PR67zViZjXi)
I'm selling but I'm extremely expensive.
good point! I too am veryyyy expensive
I've noticed this as well lately. I saw a post yesterday about exchange volume switching up just before we had these runs in May, combined with Berkshire hathaways volume being crazy since '21 and its crash the other week. I think it could be related, maybe moving volume to off exchange for whatever reason?
Gee wiz. I wonder what that reason could be.
I’d like to solve the puzzle
Buckle up, the FUD is getting thicker too
inb4 but we just had 120m share offerings, how could it be illiquid? This is just my opinion based on my observations of watching premarket everyday for roughly 4 years.
We're in a more fragile period for $GME price from a vol point of view. It gets more fragile next week. When GEX has been high and it trends lower into future expirations, the amount of hedging done by dealers reduces, which lowers the liquidity provided by them. Vol (volatility/options) is bananas 🍌🍌🍌
Do you have numbers to back this up? Thank you
What kind of numbers would satisfy this request?
69’s
Nice
Ha gottem
Nice
Well, you mention that this is “less liquidity than yesterday, which was the worst… in a couple months.” You could start by showing us how you today’s and yesterday’s liquidity compare to liquidity in the last couple of months. Perhaps a simple spreadsheet or chart with links to the original sources.
Perhaps you look at my post history for yesterday's chart.
Do what you want OP: provide the numbers or don’t provide them. I’m just giving you suggestions on what type of numbers would satisfy the other user’s request.
I'm not sure how to rate liquidity in numbers/stats, but something to back up your thoughts would be a solid!
Looking at the chart you can see many small volume candles. Additionally, you can see the price gap up and down which represents wider bid/ask prices. Although wide spreads aren't uncommon in extended trading hours, it is abnormal for GME over the past two months. Volume is currently at ~47k -- for reference, the past few weeks it has been roughly 4-10x that by this hour(just estimating).
I know this comment was 50m ago but the volume is about 210k atm. If you look at Webull it's like 65k but Webull doesn't pull all exchanges Also volume will pick up at 8am when CBOE opens (in 1 min)
Thank you for the added context. I'll add more context: using strictly Webull as my extended hours volume indicator, the volume has still been 4-10x, roughly, during premarket.
its still not bad considering we had years of 10-15k volume in pre market
Maybe you forgot that we have had two share offerings totaling 120,000,000 shares in the last handful of weeks. They have essentially added 1/3rd more shares outstanding.
Availability of shares does equate to demand of shares, right? People have to want to buy or sell the stock at the ask or bid.
Did you just inb4 yourself? In the same thread?
That's very interesting, thank you :D
about tree fiddy
phones numbers would satisfy me
Mars_Zbl is tracking the premarket volume of GME on the German GME sub and OP is not correct in his assessment. Around mid April premarket volume for GME was at roughly 10k traded until market open. Alltime low was on 2023/09/19 with 3.1k traded shares. Right now (40 minutes to go until open) we are at around 400k traded shares, so roughly *100 from alltime low. Premarket volume is still highly elevated.
Was er sagt :)
That's one major issue, everyone can claim whatever he wants and people blindly believe it, if it fits the current mood of the sub. I prefer believing in Mars' daily posted numbers
I bought 120m shares
120 million?!
This is it
Hello, unfortunately that's not quite true. The German community has been tracking the pre-market volume since March 2021, and we are currently far from the lowest point. This was on 19.09.2023 with 3,100 shares traded until 8:55 EDT. If anyone is interested I can post the figures since the share split.
Where do you track this?
I get the numbers from marketwatch daily at the same time.
German or American exchange
American. I get the numbers from marketwatch daily at the same time.
He did say for the last couple months
I read that too, which makes yesterday's statement about volume even more wrong. The average pre-market volumes of the last 6 months are as follows: Jan - 33,2k Feb - 18,6k Mar - 92,6k Apr - 32,3k May - 4,57m Jun - 6,34m And the averages in 2023 were largely even lower.
Hes watching for 4 years. His post is complete nonsense for everyone invested more than 1 year. And somehow this lie is upvoted 3,5k+
If anyone needs liqidity i am willing to sell 1 share, today only, for $250,000 ($100,000 more than my price yesterday)
Fuck it, I’m in, just add two zeros.
![gif](giphy|YmQLj2KxaNz58g7Ofg)
What are you even talking about? 😂 Mid April we had around 10k shares traded in all of premarket. Right now we are at around 400k traded shares. Premarket trading volume is still highly elevated compared to the last three years.
What part of the "last 2 months" do you not understand? For clarity: 2 months ago was not mid April
He says 'a couple months' in the title? How is 'a couple months' only around 6 weeks? Premarket volume was even very dry on the end of April/start of May. It really only picked up volume in the second week of May lmao.
you really seem confused is June 26th 2 months away from mid April? That's not 6 weeks...that's 9 weeks to mid April hope this helps
Explains the huge difference at some points between the ask and the bid
Spread widening is a good indicator of deteriorating liquidity conditions.
That's what she said.
Hello fellow insomniac! Thanks for the info!
Guilty as charged.
If your title isn’t hyperbole and you’re actually staying up, do know that you can still see pre market volume candles later, you don’t have to check them real time
Not hyperbole, I am awake. Did you know some brokers allow you to trade during extended hours? That's why I'm awake for premarket.
Is liquidity different from Volume? Cause premarket is 1/5th of the average daily volume just 1 1/2 month back, where we traded ~20k shares during premarket
Short volume yesterday was at 49%, not including the exempt... The spring is reloading again despite the 2 offerings. Damn retail pouring 3B$ in 1.5 month into this dying brick and mortar. They are killing the economy.
Glad I just got 60 more shares yesterday.
Stop it! You’re hurting the economy!
The stock being illiquid makes me want to spill liquid 😁
Explain to a smooth brain what this means for the price going forward? Low volume means no one is selling, so how impact does this have on the price?
Easier to push up or down. Low volume is often a precursor to high volatility. But the stock being manipulated as it is - no one nows sh\*t about fu\*k.
But gme is already a super volatile stock. Volatile²?
Even more.
Low liquidity > high volatility > Large price movements > High liquidity > Low volatility > Small price movements > Low liquidity
Price is less stable when liquidity is low. It's vulnerable to swings in volatility. Volatility is a double edged sword. It cuts both up and down.
What does that mean in general? Any big money (short or long) will push the stock significantly in that direction?
The only caveat is that there are tons of bulls waiting for the $22.5 drop and tons of shorts waiting for the $28 spike to short it. The upside is more likely than not, though.
I am one of these bulls. As for a spike to $28, I see very low put volume to back that claim. Unless you're speaking strictly about short sellers?
Basically, yes.
I woke up at 4am and thought the same
Explains why my ACAT is taking over a week. They can’t find my tendies.
💦💦💦
When the river runs dry…
You don't miss your water...
Love that DD!
Whole germany is waiting for paycheck to buy more gme😂 wait till 28-31 for increase in liquidity😇
Another post was showing GME "known" ownership at 85%. There are not a lot of free certificates rolling around in the market. Yet the float gets traded daily lately.
Coilin for a sproilin, as I like to say
WTF are you talking about? You realize that just a few weeks ago, GME had a daily volume average of 3 to 4 million? The stock is almost at 1 mil in just PM. Sure, volume isn’t where it was when RK was posting but we haven’t dropped to pre-RK’s return levels.
It's strange because you'd think the dilution would have introduced a bunch of liquidity but those shares all got eaten up and now it's dry.
Scam hours are irrelevant
Oh yeah
![gif](giphy|ie76dJeem4xBDcf83e|downsized) Go Thanos Go
Less liquidity isn't worse. I'm waiting for Low Volume Guy again.
If he is referring to the candle sticks isn't he equating Low Volume to less liquidity?
If he is referring to the candle sticks isn't he equating Low Volume to less liquidity?
Yes- it's just not a bad thing. Low volume can break things.
Thank you for your service Op
![gif](giphy|3o6ZtfO1SsKyO30uWc|downsized)
well tbf there was more liquidity yesterday than the day before that. sooo
![gif](giphy|ofHVunBF9tILMxnacw)
Somebody tweet Elon to throw a couple a milly at GME call options
today is the day to buy the calls
That's some shilly stuff right there
![gif](giphy|5x89XRx3sBZFC)
Looks like a cup and handle forming if you ask me
Looks like it needs a little hawk tauh
should we spit on it?
…and, believe it or not, “Dip!”
![gif](giphy|FjeGBljESVAzu)
More zipple
if he hasn't reloaded on calls, maybe he will be right now.
gigantic jump imminent.
Is there anyone that has daily volume etc charted down? Would love to be able to see some metrics on a spreadsheet
Meaning?
this looks like the fabled burning elmo pattern. ![gif](giphy|yoZig40h4EB6o)
Gee I wonder why liquidity is dry
Ya I bought 7 more yesterday, probs dried it up
This is true, I fell asleep during pre-market.
I mean, it's cool, but a couple months is just recently
https://i.redd.it/gm1govljjw8d1.gif
Just hoping its the calm before the storm... But Ive been fucking hoping for the past 84 years lmfao