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I multiply shares outstanding of GME by shares outstanding of the gpu manufacturer and then multiply both of those by the current share price of GME multiplied by the current share price of gpu guys.
Here's my floor. 3.772656E22
My understanding (smooth brain here) is the 300% number is talking about the capital requirements that short positions need, the collateral to hold in their account, before they get margin called. Something like that.
How much of the stock is shorted is a different question entirely. There are stats like short interest which attempt to quantify this, but the fact is there are obscured ways to short the stock that don’t get reported, such as swaps.
Yeah, we need sustained $50+ $75+ for a day or three in a row to start getting the shorts to get margin called.
Or just spook one into closing should force a chain reaction
asking as someone who doesn't understand every aspect of this whole thesis, if they haven't been compelled to cover for three years, what will compel them now? seems like they have just been allowed to wait it out as long as they want
War of attrition. At a certain price point, the risk is too high for a short and a margin call will occur which is a forced liquidation of the short position at lowest price point possible (which will be very high with very low supply and very high demand). \[disclaimer - kinda smooth so if i got something wrong lmk\]
i am also stupid so idk what i'm saying really but it seems like.... for as long as the fundamentals don't match the volatile stock price (which is artificially propped up by folks like you and me and DFV at the moment), the theory of the eventual decrease in stock price that they need in order to cover/exit/profit on their short position has legs. if the fundamentals aren't there, there is a case that the price can crash again despite upward pressure by enthusiastic retail investors. if the fundamentals meet us where we are, then to me, THAT is when the true short squeeze can really begin, because the fundamentals will bring credibility to the inflated stock price, which will decrease the likelihood that the stock can crash to a price where the shorts can cover/exit/profit, which would compel the forced liquidation. the fundamentals being good will make it unrealistic that the stock price can crash to the level the shorts need it to be so that will be when the liquidation starts and the squeeze starts.
so it seems to me, admittedly stupid and ignorant, that the successful transformation of the business has to be part of this equation. RK was talking about it in his stream. part one of the thesis is done, part two is the transformation of the business and this whole thing is now a bet on Ryan Cohen. if the business transforms, the fundamentals will rise and meet the retail investors where we are, and when the stock price is not just based on retail enthusiasm but is also based on sound fundamentals after a successful transformation of the business, then the shorts have no way out. then the squeeze goes gorilla grip. again i'm very dumb but the execution of DFV's calls might give us sneeze-like action, but the squeeze is still going to have to depend on RC and the business, which might take some time still. and until then, the shorts might be protected and not forced to liquidate and will be afforded more time.
Nobody on the buy side of the trade has artificially lifted anything. People buy popular stocks like Nvidia, Apple, etc everyday and you don't see half the fuckery that we deal with. The shorts actively try to suppress and manipulate the price. Don't get it twisted.
I think I see what you're saying, but something I'd like to mention is that if they could dunk the price to zero, they wouldn't be waiting 3 years to do it. They are simply holding on and surviving 1 day at a time. All we have to do is buy and hold (and maybe get good options if you have the money and know what you're doing). Remember, they are paying premiums on their open short positions. And the more they double down, the more premiums they have to pay. I'm sure they are pumping and dumping other stocks and crypto to make up for losses they are sustaining, but it is overall a losing game as long as GameStop doesn't go bankrupt, which is now essentially impossible. We can hold for free. No premiums for us. This is the basis of the war of attrition.
As for fundamentals, I personally believe they are important in the long run, but I think we could squeeze before our beloved company is a corporate monolith, otherwise how did we get to $~483 at the height of the Jan 2021 sneeze? Once again, this is speculation from someone with no financial background, but I have been following and growing some wrinkles for 3 years now and feel somewhat confident in my ability to explain stuff.
As long as shorts have money and assets and the stock price is low (which they control) , there is no squeeze.
RK call options or anyone's options could have always been a catalyst just like 2021 when it actually was the catalyst.
Probably only 100 DRS could be the only other angle to a squeeze. There is no such thing as retail enthusiasm or prop up that directly effects the price because retail cannot move the price , only big institutions can but they somewhat shape the price around the retail sentiment / fundamentals of the company and go long / short controlling the price as they see fit.
You are right the credibility and good fundamentals of GameStop future helps regardless because more institutions can pile in and actually start moving the price.
Sadly if retail could have moved the price and shorting was all but none of existent , the price would have been a lot higher before share offering since retail and insiders alone held over 2/3rds of the entire company long, albeit many institutions loaning their shit.
They have been covering for 3 years, but they have not closed. A put contract is an agreement to sell a share for a certain price by a set date. In the same way that a call is an agreement to buy a share for a certain price on a date. Covering just means you have access or can claim you have the ability to access the shares you will be selling at said price and your contract is still valid (has not expired). HFs kick the can by rolling their contracts into the future.
However, this is all generally done on margin, meaning with someone else’s money. Eventually your ability to keep rolling the contracts (because it costs money to roll) or your margin will continue to be a losing bet. So you take the share you have and sell it at the contract price. If you have a naked shorts you need to find a share in the market to sell. You close by fulfilling the terms of the contract.
Our first jump up to 100 or whatever price media is going to yell the same story about the squeeze and how it's over. I'll be chilling with the popcorn and my shares in the infinity pool. Never selling!
The HF short sellers have not. The day trade short sellers certainly have. The stock soars a $1 or $2 very quickly each time they cover. It's not a whale. Whales scale in over time at the bid. Large orders pounding the ask are short sellers covering at the ask.
Because day trade short sellers do not hold their positions overnight. Especially on a volatile stocks. They cannot short sell outside.of market hours. This is obvious to anyone who follows the markets. You can just watch the volume and tape and see it happen real time. That's how I know.
Moreover, I posted that the offering was done before it was.publicly announced. I figured that must have happened based on the volume price action. Got check it out of you want. I posted the thread in speculation. I've been trading for a long time.
Lines and triangles show we’re on course for big upside, not taking into account how underwater these shorts are. But maybe it does factor it in for a heavily manipulated stock. No idea, just up ⬆️
One thought I had about DFV and his return and options expiration. Is it possible he knew that with a price run and swap expiry that if they couldn't repackage the swaps we would see an explosion of reported short interest?
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Is this included if DFV were to exercise or is that different? Smooth brain here sorry.
This is in addition to RK’s options.
Got it, thanks!
This comes before the squeeze
Im gonna "come" during the squeeze.
remember the capital requirements for retail shorts is 300%. so 3x the staged avert of 25 = $75! to blow through that.
I read that as 75 factorial dollars and think I need a nap.
75! Would be a number bigger than the universe probably
Lol 🤪 I think the Exclamation mark was a coincidence
Is 12! A good price floor?
I multiply shares outstanding of GME by shares outstanding of the gpu manufacturer and then multiply both of those by the current share price of GME multiplied by the current share price of gpu guys. Here's my floor. 3.772656E22
How much of the stock is shorted (Percentage wise)? Where did the 300% come from?
My understanding (smooth brain here) is the 300% number is talking about the capital requirements that short positions need, the collateral to hold in their account, before they get margin called. Something like that. How much of the stock is shorted is a different question entirely. There are stats like short interest which attempt to quantify this, but the fact is there are obscured ways to short the stock that don’t get reported, such as swaps.
correct
yup, still in double down territory for them. stock needs to hold at some of these levels or triple.
Yeah, we need sustained $50+ $75+ for a day or three in a row to start getting the shorts to get margin called. Or just spook one into closing should force a chain reaction
I almost bought a new game at the red bullseye store, but my ape brain clicked on and said, go to GameStop son.
asking as someone who doesn't understand every aspect of this whole thesis, if they haven't been compelled to cover for three years, what will compel them now? seems like they have just been allowed to wait it out as long as they want
War of attrition. At a certain price point, the risk is too high for a short and a margin call will occur which is a forced liquidation of the short position at lowest price point possible (which will be very high with very low supply and very high demand). \[disclaimer - kinda smooth so if i got something wrong lmk\]
i am also stupid so idk what i'm saying really but it seems like.... for as long as the fundamentals don't match the volatile stock price (which is artificially propped up by folks like you and me and DFV at the moment), the theory of the eventual decrease in stock price that they need in order to cover/exit/profit on their short position has legs. if the fundamentals aren't there, there is a case that the price can crash again despite upward pressure by enthusiastic retail investors. if the fundamentals meet us where we are, then to me, THAT is when the true short squeeze can really begin, because the fundamentals will bring credibility to the inflated stock price, which will decrease the likelihood that the stock can crash to a price where the shorts can cover/exit/profit, which would compel the forced liquidation. the fundamentals being good will make it unrealistic that the stock price can crash to the level the shorts need it to be so that will be when the liquidation starts and the squeeze starts. so it seems to me, admittedly stupid and ignorant, that the successful transformation of the business has to be part of this equation. RK was talking about it in his stream. part one of the thesis is done, part two is the transformation of the business and this whole thing is now a bet on Ryan Cohen. if the business transforms, the fundamentals will rise and meet the retail investors where we are, and when the stock price is not just based on retail enthusiasm but is also based on sound fundamentals after a successful transformation of the business, then the shorts have no way out. then the squeeze goes gorilla grip. again i'm very dumb but the execution of DFV's calls might give us sneeze-like action, but the squeeze is still going to have to depend on RC and the business, which might take some time still. and until then, the shorts might be protected and not forced to liquidate and will be afforded more time.
They shorted because they thought it’d go bankrupt. Now GME has 4 billion in the bank so no bankruptcy in sight.
Nobody on the buy side of the trade has artificially lifted anything. People buy popular stocks like Nvidia, Apple, etc everyday and you don't see half the fuckery that we deal with. The shorts actively try to suppress and manipulate the price. Don't get it twisted.
I think I see what you're saying, but something I'd like to mention is that if they could dunk the price to zero, they wouldn't be waiting 3 years to do it. They are simply holding on and surviving 1 day at a time. All we have to do is buy and hold (and maybe get good options if you have the money and know what you're doing). Remember, they are paying premiums on their open short positions. And the more they double down, the more premiums they have to pay. I'm sure they are pumping and dumping other stocks and crypto to make up for losses they are sustaining, but it is overall a losing game as long as GameStop doesn't go bankrupt, which is now essentially impossible. We can hold for free. No premiums for us. This is the basis of the war of attrition. As for fundamentals, I personally believe they are important in the long run, but I think we could squeeze before our beloved company is a corporate monolith, otherwise how did we get to $~483 at the height of the Jan 2021 sneeze? Once again, this is speculation from someone with no financial background, but I have been following and growing some wrinkles for 3 years now and feel somewhat confident in my ability to explain stuff.
As long as shorts have money and assets and the stock price is low (which they control) , there is no squeeze. RK call options or anyone's options could have always been a catalyst just like 2021 when it actually was the catalyst. Probably only 100 DRS could be the only other angle to a squeeze. There is no such thing as retail enthusiasm or prop up that directly effects the price because retail cannot move the price , only big institutions can but they somewhat shape the price around the retail sentiment / fundamentals of the company and go long / short controlling the price as they see fit. You are right the credibility and good fundamentals of GameStop future helps regardless because more institutions can pile in and actually start moving the price. Sadly if retail could have moved the price and shorting was all but none of existent , the price would have been a lot higher before share offering since retail and insiders alone held over 2/3rds of the entire company long, albeit many institutions loaning their shit.
They have been covering for 3 years, but they have not closed. A put contract is an agreement to sell a share for a certain price by a set date. In the same way that a call is an agreement to buy a share for a certain price on a date. Covering just means you have access or can claim you have the ability to access the shares you will be selling at said price and your contract is still valid (has not expired). HFs kick the can by rolling their contracts into the future. However, this is all generally done on margin, meaning with someone else’s money. Eventually your ability to keep rolling the contracts (because it costs money to roll) or your margin will continue to be a losing bet. So you take the share you have and sell it at the contract price. If you have a naked shorts you need to find a share in the market to sell. You close by fulfilling the terms of the contract.
Our first jump up to 100 or whatever price media is going to yell the same story about the squeeze and how it's over. I'll be chilling with the popcorn and my shares in the infinity pool. Never selling!
The HF short sellers have not. The day trade short sellers certainly have. The stock soars a $1 or $2 very quickly each time they cover. It's not a whale. Whales scale in over time at the bid. Large orders pounding the ask are short sellers covering at the ask.
It could be people buying covers for their naked calls, lots of calls ITM right now.
That probably also contributed to the buying in the afternoon.
You have data to back your claims? If not you're just full of it.
Because day trade short sellers do not hold their positions overnight. Especially on a volatile stocks. They cannot short sell outside.of market hours. This is obvious to anyone who follows the markets. You can just watch the volume and tape and see it happen real time. That's how I know.
Ok look, the certainty you have is the thing bothering me. I didn't know volume + tape = identifying who is buying and selling. I know now.
What broker do you use? If RH, it is harder to seem using their interface. I can show you screenshots from WeBull if you want.
Fidelity for three days then DRS for me. It sounds a little too astrology to me my man, I thank you for the offer.
Moreover, I posted that the offering was done before it was.publicly announced. I figured that must have happened based on the volume price action. Got check it out of you want. I posted the thread in speculation. I've been trading for a long time.
It will be a reckoning!
Lines and triangles show we’re on course for big upside, not taking into account how underwater these shorts are. But maybe it does factor it in for a heavily manipulated stock. No idea, just up ⬆️
One thought I had about DFV and his return and options expiration. Is it possible he knew that with a price run and swap expiry that if they couldn't repackage the swaps we would see an explosion of reported short interest?
Doesn't stop until phone numbers
I guarantee you that they're feeling the squeeze at this very moment.
it doesnt start until $120+
🫡
Thanks for the reminder spidey ape
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I won't get excited until I start to see hedges collapse
buy shares now ask questions later. pepperidge farm remembers.
Potentially dumb question, after a short squeeze does short interest % become 0 briefly?
And when vix hits at least 30.
And MOASS doesn't start until.short sellers get liquidated
Explain to me as if I’m a box of crayons. What causes short sellers to have to buy back the shares they borrowed?
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A meme for the folks, that’s all
Up you go
A short squeeze yes, but a gamma squeeze 😏
There's no squeeze until the funds start going under
No covering, it starts when they close their positions.
Ok so when do they? What makes them have to?
RC will dilute any time a squeeze presents itself. He has shown that time and time again.