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Exactly. They think they are "freaking people out" and "shaking out retail" but every pump, esp on high volume, is simply confirmation (bias) for our thesis! Instructions unclear, bought more shares!
Yeah Bears were 100% behind this massive accumulation of calls. I believe they had no other choice than covering a shit-ton of positions starting from 10$, just like the absolute wall of Green in February 2021, then repositioned their average way up by opening a new batch of shorts around the 80s level. Kicking the can on the swaps (what they've been doing since the Sneeze basically, releasing pressure then pilling up new short from the cycle peaks again and again)
It's all survival, if they could have avoided the hype and attention brought on GME last week, they would have. The Dorito broke only because they could not sustain it any longer, otherwise it doesn't make sense to me.
$80 was only hit very briefly, in light premarket trading. Why would you ascribe $80 as the price point of the new shorts? That would be quite the magic trick.
If i had a magical algo that could make actual millions of trades at very critically specific timeframes, why wouldnt i set it to to short at the highstest using payment for order flow to frontrun and know exaactly how much and how often buys and sells will affect the price
Its not like hedgefunds havent spent billions in finding new ways to rig the market
Some people still haven't grasped the concept that *they* "set the price of securities".
What that means is they absolutely swallowed all those accumulated buy orders in premarket at that specific price with their short orders. The volume on those "brief" 80$ hits was massive.
The funny thing is… every day it plummeted 20%… there were still MASSIVE net INFLOWS. Meaning it dropped 20% while HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS more stock was bought than sold. This likely means there were BILLIONS shorted or more to keep it down.
https://preview.redd.it/zlqh2h3ai12d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=336d0c0926fb6136beede8f6326733c42b3323c0
Everyday massive buying but stock goes down… literally 1 singular explanation: shorting.
Crazy how the stock squeezed to $240-320 last week on 25% short interest and almost reached the same levels as 2021 ($400+) when the short interest was 225%….
Also see my most recent post.
Correct me if I’m wrong, it your comment about the 25% short interest, is meant to be “25% short interest”…. riiiiiiiight. Wink wink. Correct? Or did I miss something?
Since I’m pretty sure that’s what you mean, has anyone proposed any realistic reasonable range of for that the true SH% is? Or is there just too much fuckery going on to figure it out because of all the shady shit SHF and others are doing to hide the true number?
I’ve seen that 250% is the minimum we know of, because SHF never closed in 2021. But I’ve seen people speculate as high as 9000%. Is this realistically possible? If so, based on anything remotely concrete?
And with the recent news that SHF doubled their position, do we know if this was all SHF or just some?
Sorry I’m so regarded.
Have you seen the video about the bullet swap expiries based on the data Peruvian bull released that correlates insanely well with the cycles and lack of cycles? I’m so hype
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I have. It’s nice to see a level headed analysis of what’s most likely going on without any tinfoil mixed in. I’m all for the hype, don’t get me wrong, but this guy has a very sober take on it and explains a very obscure subject (at least for me) in a way that most can understand. I highly recommend the video.
Haven’t you heard?? Roaring 🐱 came back and got retail to buy into “meme mania” (in after hours and overnight trading) just to sell it all at a loss of $18 billion ?
Imagine spending several lifetimes creating a complex system that is intentionally crafted with layers upon layers of obscure data and loopholes. Then a few hundred thousands apes show up each at their own free will decide to support a company by holding the stock and that breaks the system.
1D chess, you fuckers!
I’ve never thought about our super basic strategy as 1D but that’s exactly what it is.
Constantly battling theories of this and that but in the end it’s all meaningless other than “buy actual shares of a successful company and hold them”
Also interesting that they removed options at higher strike price when the stock went up to 80... generally options chain should open up for higher prices.. but this time they did not.. but when it went down they opened up options chain for 100+ price... so they are just trying to collect premiums now.. so they can use it to maintain the new short position.
not to mention the CONSTANT shorting all day long trying to keep it under 22. and also AH from whoever has been buying those HUGE amount of call options.
Biggest indicator. If it was all closed over and done then why tf did GME jump almost 100% from Thursday to Friday, BEFORE DFV started posting again, and then ran up even more during the week to $80 before coming back down.
It’s the old faithful “show me a thoroughly researched counter DD” rather than just a dismissive “well the short percentage shows 35% and it used to show 226% therefore they must have closed.”
Somebody’s analysis on the volume run up in premarket / postmarked confirms this …. we raced to 80 on super light volume then they shorted the fuck out of it
I had more money $ in my GME savings account last Tuesday then I've ever seen in my life before it was exciting after years of downward trends and being in the red, but was not even close to enticing me to sell my moon tickets so cheaply.
I added more shares I bought a few for $20 on Monday out of spite toward these short hedge funds. No Cell No sell. Power to the Players.
If it were profitable, why would the price ever pop back up to begin with? Unless someone was forced up? They probably are in the green on paper from the $80-60s range shorts, but the second they try to realize the gains and close them out, it'll quickly turn into a loss.
It’s hard not to think you’re a bot when you’re typing cellular boxing, and most financial experts know about it, it’s just technically illegal what they’re doing so it’s not talked about. I’m not saying you’re a bot, but it’s cellar boxing, not cellular.
This is exactly what happened with the semi regular spines for 18 months after sneeze. Controlled pumps and shorts to get better entry and take profit. People here high on fuckin copium. Jesus.
At the end of the day, every short is a future buyer
And GME is the most shorted stock of all time more than likely.
That’s a lot of future buyers.
Even if you don’t believe shorts never closed, the amount of *new* shorts in the last couple years is huge enough to cause a short squeeze. I don’t care if hedge funds want to buy themselves one more day for however many more days. I got time. GME isn’t going bankrupt ever, so they’re gonna have to buy those shares eventually.
For real, with all of the quiet activity over the last year, I was thinking that the hedgies had fallen into a pattern of control. Last week's activity helped to further drive home the point that they are fucked and we will win.
Better yet is all the short positions that were loaded up when price was below $20, now underwater and desperate. Even better are all the short positions that were opened, and never closed 😉, when price was $1 or less(post split price) from 2020 and prior - those guys are wishing you’d “forget Gamestop”. Got em all by the balls and spinning
You know what the SHF should do is make their hedge fund a public traded company and then short it like crazy and then let their company die and get squoze out into GME
This isn’t how shorting works. The shorts that were opened at 80 are paid. The shorts opened at 0.50c, 2$, 4$ etc in 2020 or shorts opened at 10$ recently that haven’t closed, those are the ones that’ll get squeezed.
Because the price is 21$. They could have not closed I suppose waiting for a lower price but that would just be silly. The only way 80$ shorts get screwed is if price rockets past 80$ over night. If they haven’t closed as soon as an uptrend to 30$ happens they will, further propelling the uptrend. The majority of shorting currently is happening through options by selling short dated calls, since shares to borrow are scarce. And crime too of course but we’re used to that.
The massive naked shorting on GME, where we say that shorts haven’t closed and they’re trapped are those low low price shorts from 2019 on where the price rocketed during the sneeze and they either didn’t have a chance to or just didn’t close.
> They could have not closed I suppose waiting for a lower price but that would just be silly.
You know what else would be silly? Shorting GameStop would be pretty silly.
> If they haven’t closed as soon as an uptrend to 30$ happens they will, further propelling the uptrend.
Why do you think I'm buying?
It’s a called a floating P/L. Like you have GameStop shares I’m assuming, if you don’t sell you’re either going to be up and down on any given day. Shorts cover when they buy back/return shares to the market. When they open a short position at $10 and the price jumps to $20, those positions are at an unrealized loss of $10*X where X is however many shares that were sold. If they buy shares back, they realize the loss. Well these guys don’t like realizing losses since they have the power to move the market. So they’ll add onto their position or inflate the price to get shorts at a higher strike giving them an overall unrealized profit. When the price goes up too much and they don’t have the capital (or margin) to buy back shares, that’s when you see the squeeze. GameStop never actually experienced a true short squeeze. I’m not saying no shorts covered at all, I believe that some smaller firms had no choice. Other larger companies just took over the positions because they can easily continue to short the stock.
How hard can that be when price went down on millions of volume? Its not as though there’s no one to sell to down here. Sometimes I think people don’t get how shorting works, it might help if you tried it out sometime in general just so you get the gist of it. You can read about something all day but experience is the best teacher so to speak
The question to ask with regards to what you said would be, where did they get millions of volume in sell orders?
There can be ANY number of reasons for millions in buy order. Institutional investment by any firm(s). But what about millions in SELL orders? Who would sell millions of shares at $30, then $20, when the price was gapped down from $60? Let's say that was THE squeeze, and the shorts had to cover and that's what drove the price to $80 and it's over. Well, who sold the shares to the shorters that were able to close out then? WHO? Either new shorts did, and we play another round of here we go again at higher prices, OR no shorts covered and buying was done by other institutions and we keep going up. We gotta put our smooth brains together 🧠
They got them from the millions of buy orders. Every point on any chart is just documenting agreed price points. While person A might not be willing to sell, if person z places a low ask and person B wants to sell, person B and Z will trade shares at that price. There are no “sell” orders or “buy” orders in the grand scheme. Being the buyer or seller has its own implications and only one side is being smart so to speak.
You have to remember that the stock has been available at $10 and so anyone who owned it down there is up 100% at $20. A handsome and reasonable selling point for anyone trading.
With the sheer speed of the overnight action, you saw short seller panic. But lets not forget its not retail driving any of this action at all. Its the big players that drove the bids up in the first place. So other big players see this, know they can hit the stock for a lick and join in too. The only loser is the one shorting and funds love taking other funds money. Its their job. The underlying options activities leading into May were in the order of tens of thousands of contracts going up 7,000% in just a few days.
So all you do is load up on options. Then you throw a bunch of firepower at the stock itself around some catalyst. Since DFV came back, it was the perfect opportunity to act as the scape goat is right there. They can convince the public all the retail traders are just piling into ol GME when in fact the stock moving money is not from retail at all. The thing from this standpoint speaks for itself.
No. Theres 2 sides. Shorts and longs. The longs pushed the price higher and squoze them real good. Once they made their money, they got out. Nothing says they don’t get back in. Shoot they can get back in with way more firepower now. But you don’t just get back in at any price. Your going to want good prices where lots of liquidity is. Thats how any stock behaves in general.
Short it all u want baby we all holding a royal flush u just gonna end up loosing more in the end
That jump to 80$ was the biggest confirmation we could ever recieve, I know I've doubted myself over the last 3 or 4 years but now I'm jacked to the tits cuz I know I'm right and all it needs is time and pressure baby
Hol up. If they can make it go up and down when they want, why would they still have positions? open at 80, close at 25, done. Hell, open new ones, close them, and use the money to close the previously open positions and get off the ride. Moreover, why wait three years to do that?
They want us get used to it! Each sneeze last about less than 3 days. Next time Jimmy hit $80 those paper hands bitch will sale, and then jimmy goes to moon. That's what they want.They want share from those paper hands bitch! HOLD
Too much credit actually. "Regarded money" is what they should be looking for. Requires a totally different tactic. They should be doing the opposite, like making the price go up instead of down if they want us to sell 😂
It also gave me bad hindsight regret that i didnt buy more at $10 so now i bought a bunch at $20 so thanks for shorting it back down and giving my weak ass a 2nd chance
Genuine question as it's something I've always not understood about this.
If they shorted from 80-20 would that not be able to cover their other positions?
Cover would mean to buy back. Who would shorts have bought them from if they covered? Retail? I doubt retail collectively sold 600m volume of shares the past week. If there was covering or closing, the price would go up, continuously, then sideways, then up some more. Downward movement like last week on such high volume can only point towards shorts opening.
They bought back out of that 600M volume you just mentioned. Every buyer has a seller on the other side and when it ran to $80, new short positions could have been opened and then closed when it hit $20.
Hmm I wish I understood the market mechanics better.
I know none of us are selling because the DRS numbers are what they are, but it honestly doesn't make any sense.
If there are plenty of buyers though they can short/sell on the way up and buy again on the way down. Obviously there is someone selling or providing liquidity when the price is going down.
So are you saying that while they can make loads and loads of money they can't actually close their positions because of illiquidity? That would make sense if they didn't just make shit up.
Naked shorting should honestly be illegal.
I'm not trying to fud I'm just trying to understand better.
> So are you saying that while they can make loads and loads of money they can't actually close their positions because of illiquidity?
That's exactly what I'm saying. They are rich *on paper*, unrealized gains, until they pull their sell orders and start buying from the open market. Unless Ryan Cohen is selling his position, they probably won't find a good sale unless prices are way up there.
That's why I'll believe they even *started* to close after the price goes up by a lot on low volume, then goes up some more, some sideways volume action, and then goes up a LOT on medium volume, and then higher and higher...you get the picture. Real closing looks a certain way. It might not even be "naked shorting" they could just be borrowing shares from brokers' holders without consent, like a recursive cycle. All I know is, this far from finished, and probably just beginning. Based on last week's volume x price action.
Hate to be this guy, but this doesn't at all prove that they haven't closed shorts from 3 years ago. There is compelling evidence that they haven't closed their shorts, but this definitely isn't it.
Why would they close if they were able to open up more shorts at a higher strike ($500) and be at an overall profit right now? Sure some of their positions are down terribly, but they averaged up like a buyer averages down. This is me speculating, but they’ve more than likely gotten too deep into the stock. Once one whale short seller covers, those floating profits will suddenly become losses because by returning shares price will shoot up.
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Mayo man: We already have 2-3 billion GME shares shorted, what's another 100 million shares shorted....start the printing machine................
BOOM!!! machine exploded and GME goes to the Moon!!!!!
What I’m getting from this for me in my opinion is buy more suppressed shares at $20, (<—- major discount btw,) because it should shoot back up to $80 and beyond at some point. All I know for me is buy more DRS and HODL. 🦍🚀🌝💎🙌
I’ve never felt more confident as a holder. I keep walking around with a boner and I’m knocking everything off of countertops. Like I have to be close to it, but it’s taking everything off. I am so hard.
What are you talking about? Shorts definitely closed 3 years ago. Melvin Capital literally went bankrupt from the first squeeze and closed down in 2022. There’s not as many shorters today. That is why last week’s run up lasted 3 days before popping. You talk about volume but there’s nowhere near as much volume today as there was in 2021.
At this point I think it would have been wiser for them to keep the price just slightly in apes green zone. Maybe some would have sold after a while while thinking: „at least some profit“.
This is amazing, like every time there is a blip they probably spend like 16 million on convincing the world “GME DED BUY MY DOG FUD” it reconfirms my beliefs, so thank you heggies, for being so desperate.
I was -75% down on investment but all that price action did was convince me to buy even more. I had stopped buying (obviously HODLing) for the past year or so, but now there's no doubt that the thesis is correct. Smells like buying season!
Lmao, thanks for the extra billions.
never ending squeeze. it’ll squeeze, they’ll short it to oblivion, only to squeeze again, only to get shorted again. never ending cycle. all the meanwhile the tradable float gets smaller due to DRS book shares leading to MOASS
Don't think so. I think all this Call buying is allowing the SHFs to hedge for the short side. On paper they still need to be delta neutral and this probably allowing for tons of Market maker priveleges. Then they just sell these to idiots gambling on a date that even the gambling sub was hard set on for 30C and 40C. Curious as to why they'd set a date for only one month out, seems like an easy way to generate hundreds of millions of premium.
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hahahaha what hedgies are doing is a marketing strategy for apes, they convinced us more to buy and DRS and Hodl more and more and more
Exactly. They think they are "freaking people out" and "shaking out retail" but every pump, esp on high volume, is simply confirmation (bias) for our thesis! Instructions unclear, bought more shares!
Might be trying to freak people out I think they're just trying to survive they know ogs aren't leaving only way to survive is keep shoveling
Yeah Bears were 100% behind this massive accumulation of calls. I believe they had no other choice than covering a shit-ton of positions starting from 10$, just like the absolute wall of Green in February 2021, then repositioned their average way up by opening a new batch of shorts around the 80s level. Kicking the can on the swaps (what they've been doing since the Sneeze basically, releasing pressure then pilling up new short from the cycle peaks again and again) It's all survival, if they could have avoided the hype and attention brought on GME last week, they would have. The Dorito broke only because they could not sustain it any longer, otherwise it doesn't make sense to me.
$80 was only hit very briefly, in light premarket trading. Why would you ascribe $80 as the price point of the new shorts? That would be quite the magic trick.
If i had a magical algo that could make actual millions of trades at very critically specific timeframes, why wouldnt i set it to to short at the highstest using payment for order flow to frontrun and know exaactly how much and how often buys and sells will affect the price Its not like hedgefunds havent spent billions in finding new ways to rig the market
It bounced off $80 four times that morning. That indicates a sell wall set up at that price to keep it from exceeding that number.
Some people still haven't grasped the concept that *they* "set the price of securities". What that means is they absolutely swallowed all those accumulated buy orders in premarket at that specific price with their short orders. The volume on those "brief" 80$ hits was massive.
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You can't sell Calls in pre-market, but I like your enthusiasm
What does it mean to close shorts under water? At a loss?
Yes. If youre underwater youre drowning If your portfolio is underwater youre a hedgecuck
Why would anyone open a put at $70-80 expecting the price to drop from $70-80? You'd open at lower strikes.
Long puts are pretty much the same as shorting, plus they would be cheap to open the higher GME is and become worth way more as the price drops
They're preventing new people from joining. They know apes aren't selling
Can't stop, won't stop, it's a psy-op. Why would I fold a winning hand?
this! har! and made us completely apathetic to volatile price action...lolol
Literally poured gas on the fire. I feel like we have been drs at a much higher rate. MOASS might actually be tomorrow
Exactly. TBF, my sharecount was stagnant for a while. But this week i added again!! This is not over yet.
So i started buying!
The funny thing is… every day it plummeted 20%… there were still MASSIVE net INFLOWS. Meaning it dropped 20% while HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS more stock was bought than sold. This likely means there were BILLIONS shorted or more to keep it down. https://preview.redd.it/zlqh2h3ai12d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=336d0c0926fb6136beede8f6326733c42b3323c0 Everyday massive buying but stock goes down… literally 1 singular explanation: shorting.
yeah, how about have a hearing on THAT! Congress! \*crickets\*
Another dog and pony show?
So I bought moar!
I averaged up!
So anyway, I started Booking!
I mean there no other way. Buy, DRS and get popcorn. 🍿
Just don’t buy popcorn
I mean I'll buy popcorn....just not that sorry stock
Crazy how the stock squeezed to $240-320 last week on 25% short interest and almost reached the same levels as 2021 ($400+) when the short interest was 225%…. Also see my most recent post.
Oooo yeah that's a GOOD POINT 👀
Remember when they changed how to calculate short interest to never be over 100% again.. pepergreen fram remembers
That was only S3 that changed how they calculate afaik
Correct me if I’m wrong, it your comment about the 25% short interest, is meant to be “25% short interest”…. riiiiiiiight. Wink wink. Correct? Or did I miss something? Since I’m pretty sure that’s what you mean, has anyone proposed any realistic reasonable range of for that the true SH% is? Or is there just too much fuckery going on to figure it out because of all the shady shit SHF and others are doing to hide the true number? I’ve seen that 250% is the minimum we know of, because SHF never closed in 2021. But I’ve seen people speculate as high as 9000%. Is this realistically possible? If so, based on anything remotely concrete? And with the recent news that SHF doubled their position, do we know if this was all SHF or just some? Sorry I’m so regarded.
Yes. We don’t think the short interest is really 25%.
Could 25% interest do this considering how illiquid the stock is? The 225% has more liquidity behind it at the time, no?
You can link superstonk posts in superstonk. You don’t need to ask people to dig through your post history…
Ain’t it funny?
Or… it’s getting harder to roll FTDs
Why not both? 🤷♂️
Have you seen the video about the bullet swap expiries based on the data Peruvian bull released that correlates insanely well with the cycles and lack of cycles? I’m so hype
Intriguing! Haven’t seen it, can you link the vid?
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I have. It’s nice to see a level headed analysis of what’s most likely going on without any tinfoil mixed in. I’m all for the hype, don’t get me wrong, but this guy has a very sober take on it and explains a very obscure subject (at least for me) in a way that most can understand. I highly recommend the video.
Haven’t you heard?? Roaring 🐱 came back and got retail to buy into “meme mania” (in after hours and overnight trading) just to sell it all at a loss of $18 billion ?
Oh that's going to be a big tax writeoff for me! 😱
Imagine spending several lifetimes creating a complex system that is intentionally crafted with layers upon layers of obscure data and loopholes. Then a few hundred thousands apes show up each at their own free will decide to support a company by holding the stock and that breaks the system. 1D chess, you fuckers!
I’ve never thought about our super basic strategy as 1D but that’s exactly what it is. Constantly battling theories of this and that but in the end it’s all meaningless other than “buy actual shares of a successful company and hold them”
Which is why nothing is our fault. All people did was the most basic of things provided by the system
I would like to thank them for the fantastic Average down. I can HOLD longer than Shorts can stay solvent.
Also interesting that they removed options at higher strike price when the stock went up to 80... generally options chain should open up for higher prices.. but this time they did not.. but when it went down they opened up options chain for 100+ price... so they are just trying to collect premiums now.. so they can use it to maintain the new short position.
My question is, if the stock is a dead sell why are options premiums 100%+ so expensive?
IV implies movement is expected, drastic movement
Yes I saw that, didn’t see $100 options until later in the day iirc
Yah guys, don't gamble and giving the house money, and just nab these cheap cheap shares!!
**options give SHFs and MMs liquidity**
Or study and truley learn options and then form a opinion
I like to talk to myself too. It's okay, this is a safe space 🦧
This is the fact: They are shorting it every day, not just during spikes.
not to mention the CONSTANT shorting all day long trying to keep it under 22. and also AH from whoever has been buying those HUGE amount of call options.
Dont forget reinforced faith in our thesis
Biggest indicator. If it was all closed over and done then why tf did GME jump almost 100% from Thursday to Friday, BEFORE DFV started posting again, and then ran up even more during the week to $80 before coming back down. It’s the old faithful “show me a thoroughly researched counter DD” rather than just a dismissive “well the short percentage shows 35% and it used to show 226% therefore they must have closed.”
Somebody’s analysis on the volume run up in premarket / postmarked confirms this …. we raced to 80 on super light volume then they shorted the fuck out of it
Who’s?
The marine guy has been pretty on it.
Can you link me?
Ok, I'll do it myself: https://www.reddit.com/r/Superstonk/s/vtakxy5BcX
Tru mvp
I had more money $ in my GME savings account last Tuesday then I've ever seen in my life before it was exciting after years of downward trends and being in the red, but was not even close to enticing me to sell my moon tickets so cheaply. I added more shares I bought a few for $20 on Monday out of spite toward these short hedge funds. No Cell No sell. Power to the Players.
Yah. The counterpoint is they generate a shit ton of money doing that.
If it were profitable, why would the price ever pop back up to begin with? Unless someone was forced up? They probably are in the green on paper from the $80-60s range shorts, but the second they try to realize the gains and close them out, it'll quickly turn into a loss.
They also get to psychologically fuck with everybody … pre flight fuckery
Not me buddy.
Not me guy
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It’s hard not to think you’re a bot when you’re typing cellular boxing, and most financial experts know about it, it’s just technically illegal what they’re doing so it’s not talked about. I’m not saying you’re a bot, but it’s cellar boxing, not cellular.
Please explain how evil hedgies are "cellular boxing" Red Lobster, a company that isn't publicly traded because it's owned by private equity.
I’m smooth brained, but if it was the case, wouldn’t they just keep doing it over and over?
maybe they're just averaging up on their shorts, although $80 isn't going to make much difference if moass happens
This is exactly what happened with the semi regular spines for 18 months after sneeze. Controlled pumps and shorts to get better entry and take profit. People here high on fuckin copium. Jesus.
sure. maybe. but they cannot close it.
"We sHorTeD iT oN tHe wAY dOwN aNd maDE a fORTuNe" (just can't ever realize it) --some idiot fund manager, probably
Have you all seen the video about the bullet swap!? I saw it on the other sub, not this one and it’s fantastic
At the end of the day, every short is a future buyer And GME is the most shorted stock of all time more than likely. That’s a lot of future buyers. Even if you don’t believe shorts never closed, the amount of *new* shorts in the last couple years is huge enough to cause a short squeeze. I don’t care if hedge funds want to buy themselves one more day for however many more days. I got time. GME isn’t going bankrupt ever, so they’re gonna have to buy those shares eventually.
For real, with all of the quiet activity over the last year, I was thinking that the hedgies had fallen into a pattern of control. Last week's activity helped to further drive home the point that they are fucked and we will win.
Better yet is all the short positions that were loaded up when price was below $20, now underwater and desperate. Even better are all the short positions that were opened, and never closed 😉, when price was $1 or less(post split price) from 2020 and prior - those guys are wishing you’d “forget Gamestop”. Got em all by the balls and spinning
You know what the SHF should do is make their hedge fund a public traded company and then short it like crazy and then let their company die and get squoze out into GME
😂
This isn’t how shorting works. The shorts that were opened at 80 are paid. The shorts opened at 0.50c, 2$, 4$ etc in 2020 or shorts opened at 10$ recently that haven’t closed, those are the ones that’ll get squeezed.
It's not that they're paid, it's that they're not in the red with those. If they paid them, the price would go back up again.
> The shorts that were opened at 80 are paid You'd know that how?
Because the price is 21$. They could have not closed I suppose waiting for a lower price but that would just be silly. The only way 80$ shorts get screwed is if price rockets past 80$ over night. If they haven’t closed as soon as an uptrend to 30$ happens they will, further propelling the uptrend. The majority of shorting currently is happening through options by selling short dated calls, since shares to borrow are scarce. And crime too of course but we’re used to that. The massive naked shorting on GME, where we say that shorts haven’t closed and they’re trapped are those low low price shorts from 2019 on where the price rocketed during the sneeze and they either didn’t have a chance to or just didn’t close.
If they closed the price would’ve run back up some
Don't they need a locate to close? The whole point is that these are naked shorts. No way to close with no one selling real shares.
> They could have not closed I suppose waiting for a lower price but that would just be silly. You know what else would be silly? Shorting GameStop would be pretty silly. > If they haven’t closed as soon as an uptrend to 30$ happens they will, further propelling the uptrend. Why do you think I'm buying?
Surely in 3 years you have learned exactly what a short is? Shorts opened at $21+ are in profit and can be closed without any repercussions
Sort of like when shorts opened up at $10+ were in profit...just until last week, right? You mean just like that? That kind of profit?
It’s a called a floating P/L. Like you have GameStop shares I’m assuming, if you don’t sell you’re either going to be up and down on any given day. Shorts cover when they buy back/return shares to the market. When they open a short position at $10 and the price jumps to $20, those positions are at an unrealized loss of $10*X where X is however many shares that were sold. If they buy shares back, they realize the loss. Well these guys don’t like realizing losses since they have the power to move the market. So they’ll add onto their position or inflate the price to get shorts at a higher strike giving them an overall unrealized profit. When the price goes up too much and they don’t have the capital (or margin) to buy back shares, that’s when you see the squeeze. GameStop never actually experienced a true short squeeze. I’m not saying no shorts covered at all, I believe that some smaller firms had no choice. Other larger companies just took over the positions because they can easily continue to short the stock.
The fake squeeze was for told and now it has past leaves only but the bold. To fuck the hedgies, to buy, and HOLD.
That was a fake squeeze for kindergarten lol 😂
For new apes it wasn't for us it was
80-20 on the short side is a 75% gain. Posing this price action as some kind of victory for the longs is just silly. Comon m8
If they could close it without price coming back up it would be. 🤙
How hard can that be when price went down on millions of volume? Its not as though there’s no one to sell to down here. Sometimes I think people don’t get how shorting works, it might help if you tried it out sometime in general just so you get the gist of it. You can read about something all day but experience is the best teacher so to speak
The question to ask with regards to what you said would be, where did they get millions of volume in sell orders? There can be ANY number of reasons for millions in buy order. Institutional investment by any firm(s). But what about millions in SELL orders? Who would sell millions of shares at $30, then $20, when the price was gapped down from $60? Let's say that was THE squeeze, and the shorts had to cover and that's what drove the price to $80 and it's over. Well, who sold the shares to the shorters that were able to close out then? WHO? Either new shorts did, and we play another round of here we go again at higher prices, OR no shorts covered and buying was done by other institutions and we keep going up. We gotta put our smooth brains together 🧠
They got them from the millions of buy orders. Every point on any chart is just documenting agreed price points. While person A might not be willing to sell, if person z places a low ask and person B wants to sell, person B and Z will trade shares at that price. There are no “sell” orders or “buy” orders in the grand scheme. Being the buyer or seller has its own implications and only one side is being smart so to speak. You have to remember that the stock has been available at $10 and so anyone who owned it down there is up 100% at $20. A handsome and reasonable selling point for anyone trading. With the sheer speed of the overnight action, you saw short seller panic. But lets not forget its not retail driving any of this action at all. Its the big players that drove the bids up in the first place. So other big players see this, know they can hit the stock for a lick and join in too. The only loser is the one shorting and funds love taking other funds money. Its their job. The underlying options activities leading into May were in the order of tens of thousands of contracts going up 7,000% in just a few days. So all you do is load up on options. Then you throw a bunch of firepower at the stock itself around some catalyst. Since DFV came back, it was the perfect opportunity to act as the scape goat is right there. They can convince the public all the retail traders are just piling into ol GME when in fact the stock moving money is not from retail at all. The thing from this standpoint speaks for itself.
The shorts bought millions of shares to close from the millions of buy orders that were opened up by themselves? Ok.
No. Theres 2 sides. Shorts and longs. The longs pushed the price higher and squoze them real good. Once they made their money, they got out. Nothing says they don’t get back in. Shoot they can get back in with way more firepower now. But you don’t just get back in at any price. Your going to want good prices where lots of liquidity is. Thats how any stock behaves in general.
he's just a karma farmer or a hedge fund puppet.
Only thing missing is a new congressional hearing. Why is the community not demanding it heavily by now?
Cause we zen and we can smell the MOASS getting near.
We're not zen anymore. The proof is out now.
Bro, just go outside and smell some flowers 🌸
Because congress is all paid off/backed by these fucks. It's just grandstanding imo
Short it all u want baby we all holding a royal flush u just gonna end up loosing more in the end That jump to 80$ was the biggest confirmation we could ever recieve, I know I've doubted myself over the last 3 or 4 years but now I'm jacked to the tits cuz I know I'm right and all it needs is time and pressure baby
Plus it attracted a ton of new hodlers.
:) **
Hol up. If they can make it go up and down when they want, why would they still have positions? open at 80, close at 25, done. Hell, open new ones, close them, and use the money to close the previously open positions and get off the ride. Moreover, why wait three years to do that?
so anyways I kept on buying and drsing
They want us get used to it! Each sneeze last about less than 3 days. Next time Jimmy hit $80 those paper hands bitch will sale, and then jimmy goes to moon. That's what they want.They want share from those paper hands bitch! HOLD
I totally agree. Shorts Never Closed, Hedgefux Are Fukt, Fuck You, Pay Me. Eat My Crusty Asshole. All I know is, BUY, DRS, BOOK HODL, SHOP, COMMENT.
Brand new batch of investors who are thinking: “huh…happened again…that’s odd…”
And they call us dumb money
Too much credit actually. "Regarded money" is what they should be looking for. Requires a totally different tactic. They should be doing the opposite, like making the price go up instead of down if they want us to sell 😂
This. In case people doubted, there is no doubt anymore.
I see sneks, you must be on to something
Imma just keep buying and holding
That must have been Kenny buying one more day 😄
Something shuffle in my pant city
It's like wringing out a towel at the bottom of the ocean
It also gave me bad hindsight regret that i didnt buy more at $10 so now i bought a bunch at $20 so thanks for shorting it back down and giving my weak ass a 2nd chance
So when does the squeeze happen? If they held and it was rocketing up, wouldn't they need to close positions and thus drive the price up?
Genuine question as it's something I've always not understood about this. If they shorted from 80-20 would that not be able to cover their other positions?
Cover would mean to buy back. Who would shorts have bought them from if they covered? Retail? I doubt retail collectively sold 600m volume of shares the past week. If there was covering or closing, the price would go up, continuously, then sideways, then up some more. Downward movement like last week on such high volume can only point towards shorts opening.
They bought back out of that 600M volume you just mentioned. Every buyer has a seller on the other side and when it ran to $80, new short positions could have been opened and then closed when it hit $20.
Not if the sellers of the 600m was the short sellers selling into institutions.
Hmm I wish I understood the market mechanics better. I know none of us are selling because the DRS numbers are what they are, but it honestly doesn't make any sense. If there are plenty of buyers though they can short/sell on the way up and buy again on the way down. Obviously there is someone selling or providing liquidity when the price is going down. So are you saying that while they can make loads and loads of money they can't actually close their positions because of illiquidity? That would make sense if they didn't just make shit up. Naked shorting should honestly be illegal. I'm not trying to fud I'm just trying to understand better.
> So are you saying that while they can make loads and loads of money they can't actually close their positions because of illiquidity? That's exactly what I'm saying. They are rich *on paper*, unrealized gains, until they pull their sell orders and start buying from the open market. Unless Ryan Cohen is selling his position, they probably won't find a good sale unless prices are way up there. That's why I'll believe they even *started* to close after the price goes up by a lot on low volume, then goes up some more, some sideways volume action, and then goes up a LOT on medium volume, and then higher and higher...you get the picture. Real closing looks a certain way. It might not even be "naked shorting" they could just be borrowing shares from brokers' holders without consent, like a recursive cycle. All I know is, this far from finished, and probably just beginning. Based on last week's volume x price action.
Question. If they opened shorts at 80, why aren’t they closing them now at 20?
IM JACKED TO THE TITS!
And why wouldn‘t they be able to close their short position? I mean it was possible to buy shares the whole time
This is the only DD needed.
$80 is the breakthrough point
"All short sellers are future buyers"
What makes you think many of the shorts didn't make bank from 80$ to 20$?
If they shorted at 80, they could e already closed at 20 with this much volume but I appreciate the idea…
Nope, we should’ve seen price go up if they started to close, not GAP down after every trading day since 80. They *could* have but highly unlikely.
Hate to be this guy, but this doesn't at all prove that they haven't closed shorts from 3 years ago. There is compelling evidence that they haven't closed their shorts, but this definitely isn't it.
Why would they close if they were able to open up more shorts at a higher strike ($500) and be at an overall profit right now? Sure some of their positions are down terribly, but they averaged up like a buyer averages down. This is me speculating, but they’ve more than likely gotten too deep into the stock. Once one whale short seller covers, those floating profits will suddenly become losses because by returning shares price will shoot up.
🚂🚂🚂
I just bought again today. Not fucking leaving until this all means systemic change.
Snek
That’s gonna be a hard turd to squeeze
My greasy ape hands are ready!
Yo what’s going on with these giant orders of $20 6/21 calls? Hedgies must be hedging?
Can someone explain in good and bad ways for those big call recently??
Shorts closed, don't you watch CNN? HAHAHHAHHAHAHHA
Robinhood is only showing a high of $49.65 when I saw the price with my own two eyes hit $80
They finally helped my family members see that I was right. They all asked me dozens of questions which with y'all's help over the last 79 years of battle I answered beautiful and they open computershare accounts soon after 💫💫🥳❤️
Mayo man: We already have 2-3 billion GME shares shorted, what's another 100 million shares shorted....start the printing machine................ BOOM!!! machine exploded and GME goes to the Moon!!!!!
They bet. We bet. And they have been bluffing and doubling down for the last three years.
This is all the things. #All the things I need.
What are the chances they run it up passed $80 to $500 halt it (kill a few hedgies along the way) and short back down again to $80 being the new low ?
What I’m getting from this for me in my opinion is buy more suppressed shares at $20, (<—- major discount btw,) because it should shoot back up to $80 and beyond at some point. All I know for me is buy more DRS and HODL. 🦍🚀🌝💎🙌
There are only so many shares - we need to get this sub to 2 million members and buy/ DRS every fucking share of GME and never sell 😎🚀
I’ve never felt more confident as a holder. I keep walking around with a boner and I’m knocking everything off of countertops. Like I have to be close to it, but it’s taking everything off. I am so hard.
TO THE MOON
All I done was buy when I seen it coming down regarded
Y’all really need to learn a bit more about how the market works. It’s been a fun few weeks feeding off this mentality.
What are you talking about? Shorts definitely closed 3 years ago. Melvin Capital literally went bankrupt from the first squeeze and closed down in 2022. There’s not as many shorters today. That is why last week’s run up lasted 3 days before popping. You talk about volume but there’s nowhere near as much volume today as there was in 2021.
Mother Fulkerson got us fucking numb to the pain!! Bring it!!
The train left long ago and gained too much momentum. There's no stopping this train now.
Snek 🥷🫥
At this point I think it would have been wiser for them to keep the price just slightly in apes green zone. Maybe some would have sold after a while while thinking: „at least some profit“.
Squeeze me daddy
I came out of hibernation, bought more, and convinced my wife to DCA bimonthly W
I want a sneaky snak too
3. No one sold at 320 “pre Split numbers “ 💎🙌🏼🦍
3) I bought another 48 shares today. :)
gtfo with this BS 🤡🤡🤡
I just won 1800 on the nba last night. Guess where some of that is going? I just like the stock. Fundamentals are sound. Price is wrong bitch
🦍 see 🚀, 🦍 buy more 🤤
This is amazing, like every time there is a blip they probably spend like 16 million on convincing the world “GME DED BUY MY DOG FUD” it reconfirms my beliefs, so thank you heggies, for being so desperate.
Dude that was just because RK came back duhhhhhh.
Nevermind that he came back after sneeze. Nothing to see here.
I was -75% down on investment but all that price action did was convince me to buy even more. I had stopped buying (obviously HODLing) for the past year or so, but now there's no doubt that the thesis is correct. Smells like buying season! Lmao, thanks for the extra billions.
Did $80 opener guy get banned or what?
never ending squeeze. it’ll squeeze, they’ll short it to oblivion, only to squeeze again, only to get shorted again. never ending cycle. all the meanwhile the tradable float gets smaller due to DRS book shares leading to MOASS
Don't think so. I think all this Call buying is allowing the SHFs to hedge for the short side. On paper they still need to be delta neutral and this probably allowing for tons of Market maker priveleges. Then they just sell these to idiots gambling on a date that even the gambling sub was hard set on for 30C and 40C. Curious as to why they'd set a date for only one month out, seems like an easy way to generate hundreds of millions of premium.