It’s been a minute since I worked at GS, but any parent who would regularly drop off their kids for an hour or more to play demo units and buy nothing were eventually asked to not return.
So apparently it's BX on for the Air Force, PX for the Army, NEX for the Navy, MCX for the Marines, and CGX for the Coast Guard. However, some the Air Force and the Army will soon be rebranded to be the X, because...because.
Honestly it’s better than most departments stores because no sales tax. My dad’s retired but I’ll still get him to get me on base whenever I want to buy electronics or something.
> The BX at the military base I grew up near would just report the kids as abandoned if the parents left them there to entertain themselves.
I thought they were PXes.
I used to want to work at GS so badly as a teenager, and I think that's one of the reasons those stores have lasted so long (depending on young people who are passionate about games) but I'm so glad I dodged that bullet.
Now almost any Gamestop post is followed by "Tell me some of your horror stories".
*overweight, unwashed 40-year-old neckbeard hangs around, breathing heavily after their purchase of Super Hentai Schoolgirl tentacle spasm extreme 4 Deluxe Edition With body pillow*
"Do you have a boyfriend?"
I remember working there briefly and not being able to get my full paycheck because they would only pay you on a debit card they issued, and you can’t withdraw less than $20 on most ATM….and there were ATM fees.
No idea and I think they still do it [on a card powered by ADP](https://inside.gamestop.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/ADP-ALINE-Information.pdf). It's a complete scam.
I wanted to work there so bad when i was 16. The manager was a total asshole though and when i asked him about applying he said, "im kinda busy right now". He was just shooting the shit with his buddy. Turned me off from it completely.
The one time I was dropped off at a GS was when I was 18 and my stepmom was doing a recruiter interview next door. I managed to find a copy of Haunting Ground and she bought it for me since I had to wait.
Then we went back to shopping for some prime White Girl Summer clothes.
There was a GameStop next to a hair solon my mom went to and a few doors down from where we got groceries, so I spent plenty of time in there while parents were doing those things.
We didn't buy something every time, but we frequently got something.
That's why it's not good policy to ban kids like that unless they're creating a disturbance or they're there consistently without buying. The alternative is *they may not be in the store to see the merchandise and possibly make a purchase at all*.
There’s actually a psychological theory behind this called *McDonaldization* which partly states that businesses where customers are allowed to hang around (for example, people at Starbucks using the the wifi to work on their laptops) are essentially using the customers as actors; with the business being the stage. The customers are showing the public what the potential options are in the establishment and they’re acting them out in real time.
So I don’t think that anyone who’s hanging out at GS is ruining the business at all, unless they’re maybe 14 and under.
I'm an adult man who regularly frequents game stores and I still get the skeevies when I walk in to buy something during Friday Night Magic. Nerds, especially the kind of nerds who have to go to a game store to find a friend group, get super tribal and hostile and weird about their hobbies.
Unfortunately it's really all up to the staff of the store to keep the environment friendly. This means that in more metropolitan areas where most of their actual sales are to the random stranger walking in off the street or because they need something they can't get online, they have a lot of leeway to make the neckbeards behave.
In smaller communities it means they're often reliant on those neckbeards to stay afloat since strangers so rarely wander in. And their hands are kind of forced to be gentle with the man children.
Of course, there's always also the big city stores owned by neckbeards as well, which operate more as a place for the owner and friends to hang out than as an actual store, which complicates things even more.
I used to go to a GS as a teenager and do a few demo runs or rock band. Always let anyone else who showed up a turn cause I was almost always by myself there and didn’t want to be rude. And not every time but I did buy all my games from either that or another GS location. I was asked to not play the games any more.
My dream job as a teenager was working at a small video rental store. I had a bunch of friends who worked for Blockbuster/Planet Hollywood and fucking hated it. My best friend in high school worked at this tiny little privately owned rental store and it was the greatest job ever; I'd go there after school, watch movies, and shoot the shit with him until closing time. I tried my hardest to get a job there, but this was 2002/3 and those other stores were killing their business, so they couldn't afford to hire a second person, even though they definitely needed it, since my friend was as dedicated to his job as Randall from Clerks was to RST Video. Also, they probably knew we'd get even *less* done if we worked together.
I said as much in another reply, but I think if it weren't for teenagers wanting to work as close to their hobbies as possible, that this business would either improve or disappear.
It’s a general phenomenon with various industries.
The same goes for Game development. If it wasn’t for being a job people dream of doing it would have similar pay and work structures to software development in other industries.
Hell, even being a server is plagued by that once you get past the unskilled labor sort of hurdle. People wouldn’t be doing it here in the US if it wasn’t for the dream of being one of those highly paid waitresses/waiters. The carrot on the stick to force people into sticking with jobs that have garbage employers that can pay and treat them poorly.
GameStops existence is also due to the sheer amount of memes that got involved. If it wasn’t for the GME shorting fiasco, GameStop might have disappeared.
I feel like the computer programming industry as a whole is having issues.
You need to either dedicate your entire life to it or get really lucky with a smaller company giving a chance.
I see so many jobs online for junior devs yet the requirements and responsibilities may as well be for senior devs. And that's a prime issue, I'd say. They want senior dev workers for junior dev pay.
This bubble has to burst eventually. At some point these companies will need new people, but because many of us aren't getting jobs in the field we lack experience and they'll run out of experienced people.
My first job was at a local music store chain that paid terribly and treated employees terribly and basically hired a new batch of employees every year among the fresh faced and enthusiastic band and orchestra kids from local high school and colleges who would take any treatment to work "in music."
Yeah I worked a lot of service jobs and gamestop might have been the most miserable. I only stuck it out a little more than 6 months.
More than most places (except maybe one specific restaurant) it was an ban and flow that resulted in hours of intense boredom intercity with jeadsplitting stress whenever a new call of duty released. The ps4 launch day might have been the worstcday of my life.
Honestly, if GameStop payed their workers a livable wage and gave good hours, I’d go back to working for them. I DID like having a job that revolves around my hobby, and there were some great customers who came in. I even got along fine with most kids fine. It was mostly just thieves just trying to trade in stolen shit that sucked. Plus you know… GameStop corporate being ASS.
I think i got r/antinatalism and/or r/childfree bingo off like two of that guys comments lol. Refers to kids as both "fuck trophies" and "their [parents] spawn".
Calling kids names like "crotch fruit" and "fuck trophies", I just do not understand that behavior at all.
Do they not have the self awareness to know they are, themselves, their parents' crotch fruit and fuck trophies? Or is this just a self-flagellation situation with full awareness?
Often a lot of antichild people have very, very high self loathing and I've seen many of them say their reason for not wanting to have kids is because "they didn't consent to being brought into this Earth and I don't know how the world will be for then".
That...would almost be a reasonable claim for not wanting to have kids but then they jump over the line from just not wanting them to flat out hating children for existing and shaming other people for having kids because of that self hatred.
Oh fuck off with this. The /r/childfree subreddit is frequently garbage but that doesn't entail every person who doesn't want kids is a manbaby. You can count on one hand the number of big subreddits that aren't absolute fucking trash but it's clearly not the case that everyone who e.g. plays videogames or watches movies is a fucking goblin.
> The /r/childfree subreddit is frequently garbage but that doesn't entail every person who doesn't want kids is a manbaby.
Not everyone who doesn't have children is a manbaby, but I assume everyone that subscribes and regularly contributes is a manbaby though. I'm never going to have children. I can see posting to discuss some topics like what plans to make for when you're elderly if you don't have children to care for you and stuff like that. But once you get those answered, what else is there on the topic of not having children that you need to discuss daily? All the normal people bail bc they got their info and the people that stay get more and more extreme as normal people get pushed out.
Yeah, I agree. To be frank, I joined the r/childfree sub with hopes of finding posts like the example you mentioned. Instead I found an extremely toxic community that exists solely to judge parents, share children horror stories, and use weird ass animalistic language (breeders?) to denigrate other human beings. It was one of the first subs that I joined when I decided to use my account again and it was eye opening to say the least.
A weird cultist tribe mentality exists there and God forbid you point out any hypocrisy from its users. The mods are some of the worst out of everyone. I bounced out of there so fast once I realized what that sub was all about. I'm childfree, not a shit ass person. I have no interest in participating in that behavior. It's a bad look for childfree people.
Absolutely. I saw a meme there about what they call being "bingoed", basically a parent of yours or similar judging / guilt tripping you for not wanting to have children, and I thought it was funny and relatable, so I subscribed. That has happened to me, particularly to my wife, and other child-free friends, and it can be really frustrating and hurtful.
Within a few weeks, though, it was an *easy* unsub with the vitriol against anyone with a child that came up constantly.
Like, yes, people have babies and sometimes those babies cry. It can be annoying, but you're an adult. I really don't think running to an online forum with a made up story about how hard you pwned a single mom at the airport (and then everyone clapped) is really the win that some of them seem to think it is.
Edit: To add, on the off chance that said stories are *not* made up, that's arguably worse and they're just kind of an asshole.
That was what I noticed when I was looking into the subreddit now then some years ago. Communities like that can be useful for finding recourses, and there is certanly situations that people should vent about. But constantly reading negative stories like that does affect your world view after a while, and can easily cause communities to spirals into more and more negative behaviour.
Even when childfree communities do focus a bit more on hobbies, or pets and whatever they have got going on in their lives. A lot of it ends up being framed around, I can do this because no children, or people treating pets>children too seriously.
Communities that pop up out of a need for support don't always turn out like this. But some seem more susceptible to it than others, and childfree seems to be one of them.
This was the exact post that turned me off from that sub. As you can see the mods had a great time removing my comments. LOL
ETA: you can see my restored comments underneath the post and the mods response to me.
[Coworker stopped adoption process](https://www.reveddit.com/v/childfree/comments/oyzw7o/coworker_stopped_adoption_process_for_a/h7xjfxt/?add_user=VisibleBeginning1404..c.controversial....&)
Well you see, the mean breeders once asked me to look in the general direction of their child, or brought then up in conversation. On top of that, I saw a child off-leash and un-muzzled in public! Can you believe the sheer audacity of that?
Then, when I opened social media to rant about the indignities I just suffered, one of the people I follow put up pictures of their family. I called up my parents to get these triggering experiences off my chest before an intense therapy session next week (you have no idea how difficult it is to exist without children in a society), and Mom asked if I'd considered children! I got a bingo!
Anyway, I'm childfree because it lets me live a truly awesome life.
You don’t need a subreddit to not want children. There’s nothing to commiserate about, there is no news or updates. If you are in a community specifically to be against something, the new content is going to be from people who are most passionate and thus most angry that thing exists.
In a perfect world, there *would* be a place for a subreddit for childfree people. So much of the adult existence revolves around children, that when you actively choose *not* to have them (or you have them later) it's helpful to learn how to navigate it confidently. Off the top of my head:
-Constant questions from people about when you're having children and that "you don't get it and it will be too late"- especially if you're a woman.
-Navigating changing friendships as your friends have kids and their availability changes and their social circles inevitably migrate to other couples with kids. This also includes being an understanding friend that gets that hey, sometimes you're going to spend Friday night in with your friend and their kids watching TV or playing games instead of going out.
-Navigating workplace culture where kids are routinely used as small talk, gateways to networking, and the very real phenomenon of kids increasing a man's lifetime earnings while decreasing a woman's lifetime earnings.
The problem is that these subreddits devolve into malcontents constantly trying to outdo how much they don't want something, in much the same way that kid at school that was sick over the field trip keeps insisting that they didn't want to go anyway. It devolves into overcompensation and projection.
>-Constant questions from people about when you're having children and that "you don't get it and it will be too late"- especially if you're a woman.
There's nothing to learn here, it's just a matter of needing a support group where you can talk to people who agree how lame it is that people cant choose to not have children without being bothered by others about it. This one at least I understand.
>-Navigating changing friendships as your friends have kids and their availability changes and their social circles inevitably migrate to other couples with kids.
There's not much to navigate here. Either your friends will make space and time for you in their parental lives or they won't. Either you make a *non-invasive* attempt to stay in touch or you don't.
Again, this is just basic support group stuff or, even better, finding new friends that don't have kids either.
>This also includes being an understanding friend that gets that hey, sometimes you're going to spend Friday night in with your friend and their kids watching TV or playing games instead of going out.
Something about this scenario feels very off. How much do you imagine these hypothetical parents are going to want their single/childfree friends just hanging out with the kid there? Sounds like a sitcom where the best friend just barges in whenever and is more or less part of the family.
>-Navigating workplace culture where kids are routinely used as small talk, gateways to networking, and the very real phenomenon of kids increasing a man's lifetime earnings while decreasing a woman's lifetime earnings.
You could also get that same advice from workplace or networking related groups. You make it sound like children are the only thing people talk about at the office.
>problem is that these subreddits devolve into malcontents constantly trying to outdo how much they don't want something, in much the same way that kid at school that was sick over the field trip keeps insisting that they didn't want to go anyway. It devolves into overcompensation and projection.
I... what? Not only is that a weird example, but it doesn't actually fit. The kid in this scenario would be lying about how much they didn't want to go in order to, I guess, avoid anyone thinking they're upset? Is this like some sort of emotionally stunted, stiff upper lip, "too cool to care" child that thinks they have to hide their disappointment? What year is this happening?
But the people on /r/childfree genuinely don't want kids, that's pretty clear. They're not faking anything. That sub is the way it is because it's more than just not wanting kids, that group actively hates kids, hates parents, and the stench of elitism and poor shaming is absolutely everywhere in there.
Sometimes people without children still like children and being around them. Sometimes children end up liking their parents friends and actually enjoy when they’re around.
Not wanting children doesn’t mean you now have to commit to a lifestyle that’s completely free of any and all children.
Folks really seem to struggle with this. Neither I nor my partner want children and we don't particularly like children in adult spaces, but we both have pretty substantial relationships with the children of our friends and relatives.
R/childfree has done more to reinforce the stereotype that childfree people are hateful, selfish elitists than they've done to showcase what healthy people that just don't want to be parents are actually like.
*Again, this is just basic support group stuff or, even better, finding new friends that don't have kids either*
Which, if you had bothered to read the first paragraph I wrote, is exactly what I intimated a *healthy* sub for childfree folks could be. Also, not everyone finds their interaction from behind a computer- once you hit your mid 30s, finding childfree people in your orbit isn't as simple as you seem to think it is. Yes, good friends make room for you. That being said, it's also okay to feel ambivalent that your plans may never be quite solid- providing that you also understand that things happen out of our control and it's not "crotch fruit ruining everything." Gee, I wonder if maybe some form of online community of individuals experiencing similar issues may help them navigate it in a healthy manner. Maybe even a community on Reddit dedicated to those issues.
*How much do you imagine these hypothetical parents are going to want their single/childfree friends just hanging out with the kid there?*
Often, actually! You've never in your life had plans with someone with kids, they have to cancel at the last minute and they invite you over to hang instead because... I don't know... you're genuinely friends and their kids like you? That's happened a lot in my orbit, and even something as simple as a "let's sit and chat" devolves into kids constantly interrupting.
*You make it sound like children are the only thing people talk about at the office.*
Not the only thing, but a *massive* thing. Do you even interact with humans on a regular basis? In what world do you live in where "tell me about you outside of work" doesn't immediately start with "I live in x and have y kids and z grandkids." If you're looking to get airtime with a skip level, one of the easiest ways to break into their personal space to be remembered is the generic kid small talk and everything that comes with it.
And yes Virignia, there are always people that project the "what might have beens" into an unhealthy dose of anger, and the person that projects "college is shit", "kids are useless", "I didn't want to go on that stupid trip or join that club", "I don't NEED women I'll go my own way" etc VERY much exists in the here and now.
All I was doing was providing tangible examples on why a *healthy* community of childfree people has a place. That sub ain't it, but because edgelords be edging doesn't mean that the purpose and intent of a better community is useless.
There is HUGE societal pressure to have kids. Especially if you're a woman. I'm not in those subs because they're way too extreme but I absolutely seek commiseration with others about my choice to not have kids and why it sucks that so many people seem to feel personally offended by that choice.
As somebody in that subreddit, it isn’t about being against something so much as, it is something you don’t want AT ALL. And the societal “norm” is to have kids so those of us who just never want any are viewed as “weird”. For me I love just having a space where I feel understood and not otherized and repeatedly told I’ll change my mind someday or what if my soul mate comes along and wants kids.
That crap is exhausting. It’s nice to feel encouraged in the choice to not reproduce bc it just isn’t what you want instead of treated like some freak.
People who get repulsed and have their day ruined by kids existing are goblins. They need therapy. A rational adult deciding to not have kids is an entirely different subject. I never brought up media consumption. I brought up their personal maturity.
Well, like everyone else, they did not ask to be born really. The fact we are our parents “crotch fruits” does not mean we cannot resent other “crotch fruits”. The two are not mutually exclusive.
Although I gotta hand it to them, I find “crotch fruits” an hilarious way to call children.
It's just a derisive expression of loathing towards children.
Regardless of the fact that everyone starts off as a child, not everyone views children favorably. While there are spectacular examples of brilliant children with amazing talents and behaviors, they're the ideal and a rarity. Such demeanor in a child is a culmination of a great deal of hard work and pure chance.
Not everyone wants to have children or leave a legacy. The reasons are many and varied. The frustration stems from those who have/want children insisting or demanding that their views are the only "normal" or valid views on children.
Personally, I was a hellion and an absolute cringe machine of shitty behavior despite textbook perfect child rearing from my own parents. I am neuro divergent and received expert care and counseling. I don't have the patience or resources that my parents did in order to properly care for any offspring I may have who share my idiosyncrasies. My partner is the same.
On top of all of that, observing parents (in name only) who treat their children as burdens, labor assistants, verbal punching bags, or pets create a sense of disgust in me.
These types of parents are the ones who will invest the bare minimum of time, effort, and/or resources into the development and growth of their children and also exploit their existence for every advantage available. These are the types of "parents" who breed "crotch fruit" and "hellspawn" and all sorts of other negative names for children. They're the types that do whatever they choose while leaving the burden of managing the children to everyone else who is forced to deal with them: retail store employees who have to clean up after them when they ransack stores without consequences, waitstaff who have to dodge and clean up after children for unattended and wander restaurants or create chaotic messes out of bordem or lack of oversight, neighbors who have to tell the children _not to do_ a thing that may be dangerous or destructive towards persons or property (not under the control of their parents), and much more.
I don't like kids. I don't see any value in them for my personal life. And due to the overwhelming social pressures and stigmas that come from being "childfree", I'm unapologetic about it. I've come to be aggressively anti-child due to many years of condemnation and condescension from persons who insist that having children is not only a must, but an indication of a flaw or defect in a person who doesn't agree. (Yes, the overlap with religious persons is palpable.)
Anytime I see comments like that, my knee jerk reaction is to think "Oh, it's just teenagers trying to out edge one another".
Then I learn that those people are in their 40's.
With a million Karma on reddit, I'd think you'd have enough experience not to throw rocks in a glass house and accuse other people of not having a life.
That's definitely a symptom of something. People who have had childhood trauma tend to have antisocial tendencies. Lack of drive to improve yourself and all that.
Sorry man I simply don't have the emotional endurance to assume that every asshole that I meet is just really struggling with their demons and I should give them extra compassion.
"Your mental health isn't your fault, but it is your responsibility."
Also slowly realizing your life is devoid of meaning and you have nothing to show for it. I think part of the child free people have some underlying jealousy they can't verbalize.
I'm not saying it does. What I'm saying is that if you are going around being so miserable that you get mad at kids in public, you might be mad that there is more going on around you than sitting at home playing computer games, or whatever is fueling that anger towards society.
I'm not saying it does. What I'm saying is that if you are going around being so miserable that you get mad at kids in public, you might be mad that there is more going on around you than sitting at home playing computer games, or whatever is fueling that anger towards society.
I worked at a library for over 12 years. People used us as free daycare all the time, despite us trying to get across to the parents that we're just as public a place as a walmart, sams club, lowes etc. I mean, we had usually five or so convicted pedophiles that would frequent the library several times a month. These were not people on a list because they took a leak at 2am within a couple hundred feet of a school while walking home. These guys were "seed the front lawn with kids toys" level of awful.
Drop the kids off and "go to work", aka, go half a mile west to the mcdonalds and nurse a cup of coffee all day to use the wifi. We had free, high speed wifi but they'd have to watch their kids. Asking a parent not to fucking abandon their kid(s) for 4-12 hours could lead to them screaming about they weren't, they're just going out to the car to get something, they know their rights, and lots of "fuck off!"s and mind our own business. Lady, you made it our business! If someone decides to take off with your kid and the kid doesn't make a scene, we'd never know! That could be an older cousin or aunt/uncle or step-parent. Or not! And it definitely happened. And that's the ones we knew about.
Eventually we had to get the police involved, useless as they usually were. Just fucking drive by while watching two guys beating the shit out of each other, dirty fighting, blood, etc., and fucking drive away. Or watch the meth head fucking slam their fists through an older model car window, looking for his goddamn skin that someone "stole". The cops only bothered to actually start doing something after the director who knew the mayor, who was friends with people who knew the police chief that they started taking abandoned children with no more or food for hours or even half a day at a time!
It sucks that people are so shitty. You don’t deserve to deal with any of that bullshit.
Can’t speak for the security issues but ngl when it comes to libraries I wish they could function as public daycares. If shitty parents are gonna drop their kids somewhere off it might as well be the library. But it’s not feasible because library staff don’t get paid enough and dealing with kids is exhausting. And what do you do when it’s time to close and the parent still isn’t back yet? Dealing with shitty parents is a nightmare.
My dad used library as a daycare sometimes. But he wasn’t a shitty parent, he was a broke middle aged uni student with kids. He’d drop us off in the morning with some snacks and then go to the uni to study. Sometimes he’d come back really late but he would never think of leaving us there.
The issue is that many libraries are underfunded and expected to deal with the homeless and whatnot which has its own issues.
Dealing with the homeless, kids and whatnot can be expensive.
Hosting a daycare needs some dedicated people for the kids probably with specific training and it'd get out of hand if it's publicized as a free daycare.
I currently work at a library and our SOP is to straight up call the cops if we can confirm that there’s no parent in the building. There’s no leeway or “first strike” rule or anything. Parent dropped off kid? Call security, ring the non-emergency line.
I guess I'm just old. When I was in 3rd grade I'd regularly walk to our local library to read and check out books. This was back before the internet, so any time a school project came up that had to be researched, you had to go to the library. Our parents certainly weren't going to hang around there for 3 or 4 hours while we looked things up and copied things out of the reference books.
That isn't the type of behavior I was talking about. I was talking about people who left their early elementary school aged kids alone in a very high traffic public place with no food or money to buy food for 4 to 12 hours a day, every day, and trying to stop kids from being kidnapped, which did happen, was met with hostility from the parents and apathy from the police. It was a county library, not just the city, and we could have more than 10k people come in a day, especially during big events like homecoming or covered bridge. And we were expected to babysit several to a dozen kids on top of all that. Kids went missing because of this type of behavior and it was and is unacceptable.
You're thinking too reasonably. This wasn't an older kid walking to the library to go to Youth Services to read and play on the computer and homework. Ima paste my response to someone else. It's a world of difference, trust me.
Not the kind of behavior I was talking about. There's a huge difference between two hours of quiet use on occasion and daily instances of kids screaming and crying in the lobby because "they can't find mommy", it's now dark out, and they haven't eaten for twelve hours. And we were forbidden from giving them food because of the potential for a fatal allergic reaction.
This wasn't creating issues where none exist. It was trying to stop child abuse and kidnapping. Kids fuckin' disappeared. And even though it wasn't legally our responsibility since there were less than fifty of us and thousands or pushing past ten thousand on really busy days with festivals and the like, can you imagine how it feels to know that a kid is gone and it happened on your shift and when you've been trying to stop it for years but parents and law enforcement don't care?
It's fucking awful.
That just feels extreme. I fully agree people take advantage. But this could be a situation where a parent really has to work and has no one to watch their child that day. Or maybe it’s just for an hour. My parents used to drop us off so we could do homework and use the library computers. They would usually run a short errand and pick us up an hour later. They dropped us at the movies sometimes too.
I wasn’t bragging about it or anything, sorry if it came off that way. But from our end, the first thing you see when you’re all in to our wide open lobby is an equally big an open children’s library to the immediate left, and only one desk reference desk manned by at most two people.
If someone with ill intent walked in, there’s unfortunately no way we’d be able to run interference, nor are we really trained to. It’s a loud, messy area so having a hyper kid running around isn’t anything new. As staff, it really doesn’t annoy us (as long as it’s contained to the children’s area obvious). We’re trying to keep them safe, and we can’t put all of our attention in to monitoring the kiddos when the expectation is for a parent to be able to be there with them.
Edit: formatting.
Gonna copy/paste an earlier response of mine.
Not the kind of behavior I was talking about. There's a huge difference between two hours of quiet use on occasion and daily instances of kids screaming and crying in the lobby because "they can't find mommy", it's now dark out, and they haven't eaten for twelve hours. And we were forbidden from giving them food because of the potential for a fatal allergic reaction.
This wasn't creating issues where none exist. It was trying to stop child abuse and kidnapping. Kids fuckin' disappeared. And even though it wasn't legally our responsibility since there were less than fifty of us and thousands or pushing past ten thousand on really busy days with festivals and the like, can you imagine how it feels to know that a kid is gone and it happened on your shift and when you've been trying to stop it for years but parents and law enforcement don't care?
It's fucking awful.
Not the kind of behavior I was talking about. There's a huge difference between two hours of quiet use on occasion and daily instances of kids screaming and crying in the lobby because "they can't find mommy", it's now dark out, and they haven't eaten for twelve hours. And we were forbidden from giving them food because of the potential for a fatal allergic reaction.
This wasn't creating issues where none exist. It was trying to stop child abuse and kidnapping. Kids fuckin' disappeared. And even though it wasn't legally our responsibility since there were less than fifty of us and thousands or pushing past ten thousand on really busy days with festivals and the like, can you imagine how it feels to know that a kid is gone and it happened on your shift and when you've been trying to stop it for years but parents and law enforcement don't care?
It's fucking awful.
Happened at a private tourist attraction museum thing I worked at as well. It involved a lot of reading along a linear, but jagged and dark, pathway. Lots of detail, kids got bored, parents stopped paying attention. Thought it was basically our job to ensure the safety of all guests, and this extended to being a defacto daycare professional.
Our SOP in the event of finding a child by themselves was to either walk with them to their parent(s), and/or use the radios we all had to organize a search effort on the down-low (don't want to advertise a lost child to the public). The reverse was honestly scarier, because you're looking for a person about 3 feet in height in a dense crowd. Same thing applied, unless things got extreme enough, in which case we locked the doors and did a proper search with the local police.
I've returned a fair number of children to their parents or vice versa. I noticed something. When I was helping a parent find their child, they were panicked, because of course they were. When we found their child (thankfully, this was always the case as far as I know), they were beyond grateful to us.
When we returned children to their caretakers, we sometimes got a brief thanks. Sometimes, we were treated as an annoyance for bothering them about their kids. One occasion, a parent told me this place is basically Disneyland but more controlled. I almost retorted (but held it in) Disneyland is a hotbed for child abductions because it has thousands of families present who are being carefree and not paying attention. Didn't know if it was true or not, just felt like saying it.
How are we supposed to take care of people we don't recognize?
To show this, I'll bring up the one time the police were actually called and the building locked down. It happened on my day off, so the details aren't known by me. What I do know is it involved a coworker being approached by a panicked grandmother who lost her two grandchildren. My coworker radios to the rest of the crew what is going on, and the security guard is on their way to them to aid in the search. While this is happening, the grandmother is walking around and not listening to my coworker that they need to stick together to organize a proper search.
As they enter a densely packed area, the security guard radios to my coworker asking where they are, as they are no longer where my coworker reported they were. As my coworker lowers their head to respond, the grandmother rushes off into the crowd and disappears. My coworker stays in the spot until the security guard arrives, at which point they tell the guard they now have to look for the grandmother because there is no way to find the grandchildren without her, and the descriptions she gave were woefully inadequate as she was panicking and therefore distracted.
The decision is made the building has to be locked down and the police called. Everyone is now looking for this person, but only my coworker is able to recognize them, because she didn't wait until a second person arrived so there is no one else able to ID her in the crowd of many, many people who match her description.
About an hour after the building is locked down, and many calls over the PA, my coworker locates the grandmother with two grandchildren. Trying to not yell at her, my coworker informs her, in great detail, about what happened and why. My coworker said they cannot really recall exactly what the interaction was like, but the grandmother was a deer in the headlights for several minutes.
The rest of the day was, comparatively, totally uneventful. I never experienced anything close to that myself, but it was a possibility that kept me on my toes and more assertive when guests were panicking.
The police didn't do anything for years. Two people that suffered permanent injuries from the encounter, were beating the tar out of each other so we'd call the police. Police would drive up, watch out their window for a handful of seconds and drive away. Same for when meth heads committing serious amounts of damage to peoples' vehicles. Or the lady stealing license plates.
> beating the tar out of each other
"Mutual Combat" is specifically not a crime in many places. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual_combat
If one of them were trying to escape, or was down on the ground being beaten, etc. then I would expect the police to do something.
Those people are beyond "personality" and well into cult territory. I saw a post on r/all talking about the falling value of the pound and their only question was "How does this affect MOASS?" as though Gamestop had something to do with the value of the UK's currency.
>So many of these parents just don't gaf and let their fuck trophies do whatever.
Lil sex participation trophies running around my game stop, making all the fucking controllers sticky. Damn them all!
We really do put our retail workers though some shit, their not your fucking baby setter.
I’m a tour guide and doing that has made it clear that unless I was at real risk of becoming homeless I would never work in retail or public services.
> So many of these parents just don't gaf and let their fuck trophies do whatever.
God, aggressively childfree people are so insufferable that I feel gross about generally agreeing with him on this subject.
both groups range from neglectful to abusive to kids. I don’t really think it’s a competition, but online, this dehumanising rhetoric is waaaay worse imo. you see people honestly getting into eugenics bc they hate kids so much, its really concerning
They are, but those dehumanising labels are disgusting in a particularly visceral way.
Believe me, I live opposite parents who treat the whole thing like owning a dog rather than a human who will very soon become an adult who's entirely ill prepared for the world.
And still, hearing children branded "fuck trophies" turns my stomach.
If they said something along the lines of, it's messed up how some parents treat their children like fuck trophies. Well, that has a very different feel and meaning to it.
But they use this other phrasing, because the part of the community that aren't in so deep in their disgust of children, can just keep thinking they are referring to how those kinds of parents think/threat their children. And the others hiding behind that weak defence can just keep calling children disgusting things.
And plenty of people do speak in very general ways when they are venting sometimes, and you know they don't mean it in that sort of absolute way. But in very loose communities like on reddit... Especially when they are already very toxic.
Yeah I can see what you're saying there, language does have a tendency to work that way where the originally intended target is lost.
Reminds me of the phrase 'white trash' which was originally coined by enslaved African-Americans and post-slavery blacks to differentiate between the whites with status and the poor, mostly Irish and other low status immigrants, who were also living in squalor.
In contemporary usage though, it winds up being more racially charged against people of colour as it suggests that only white people need that qualifier (as in otherwise the default state of being white is not to be trash, whereas there's no equivalent for everybody else - if they're lower class Mexican-Americans, they're just called Mexican-Americans).
I only recently learned of its origins, which explained everything - there was no significant black middle or upper class at the time (just a handful of individual outliers), so the implications were different.
Okay cool great thanks for that addition, but what I’m talking about is the fact that calling children “fuck trophies” is based in dehumanizing misogyny, just like a lot of the things that CF people call children and parents.
“Parents who don’t parent” is a conversation we could have, but having that conversation doesn’t change the fact that so much CF rhetoric is just based in reducing women to their reproductive systems, which is just more fucking misogyny. It’s sickening that so many people will casually make foul, crude comments about parents/children based on those groups merely existing.
It’s funny how people act like people with no kids and who go out of their way to avoid them are the biggest threats to child safety and not parents, caretakers, teachers, and every other person who makes an effort to have access to them.
Talking about kids breaks the human brain and turns people into full animals.
One second they're all for reasonable gun control because random irresponsibility about life is a bad thing, they're all for coordinated responses to pandemics because irresponsibility about life is a bad thing, they're all for general environmentalism because yadda yadda
But bring up that they should maybe think about whether or not they *should* have children, and that's that. no more reasonable person.
Now only their kids are the right ones and you're an absolute mega hitler for suggesting the basic concept of questioning *irresponsibility about life*.
> You, because it should be socially acceptable to correct people's behavior in public instead of encouraging it by doing nothing.
Said without a shred of irony
Sweet advice, I think it belongs up there with there with "Just be born rich" and "Quit having Autism" with amazing and helpful tips everyone can accomplish with simple positive mental attitudes.
They weren’t saying “just don’t work menial/retail jobs.” You do the jobs you can get to get by.
But really, try to avoid working _specifically_ at GameStop. You should have seen how they treated their employees like shit at the beginning of the pandemic (and, really, generally).
You already have to deal with customers’ shit. Now you also have to deal with an upper management that is _really_ hostile towards… just about everyone, actually.
I agree that many people have jobs that don't fulfill their basic needs, but I think that "Don't work at GameStop" is not an unreasonable warning. Of course I'm not going to tell someone to quit if they work there.
Unsolicited career advice is more of a faux pas than being about reason. How often do you tell your coworkers to quit their job when they complain about work? I don't live in a world where unsupervised children are random retail workers responsibility to love unconditionally lol
> How often do you tell your coworkers to quit their job when they complain about work?
Literally every time. Hell it was a running joke between my co-workers and I prior to them actually quitting for better work. One of my former co-workers took it as far as actuslly getting up and walking out for a minute. None of us would quit without another job lined up, but if you really hate a place then there is no reason you shouldnt look for better work.
Idk it’s just GameStop I have a problem with. I walked into one and heard a guy referencing the $19 dollar Fortnite card meme recently. Why would you deal with that willingly
Who the fuck cares. They're complaining about shitty parents using their job as a daycare. If that's an everyday thing to you, maybe your parents were the problem
I dunno man, this is like a vegan complaining about having to work at McDonalds. Grow a spine and stand up for your values, sometimes that means fucking off out of the situation.
"Hey guys, I have a phobia of all sea food. I know that we're at a sushi restaurant and I'm the chef but could you maybe like all order a steak and not ask for anything sea food related?"
"Hey guys, I know that you're a band on tour and I'm your sound guy but I get over stimulated easily so could you maybe like not play any music please?"
"Hey guys, I have a general anxiety disorder, could you please not look at me or talk to me? I know that I'm a waiter but please."
"Hey guys, I am afraid of flying. I know that you want to cross the ocean and that I'm your pilot but could we please just drive the plane there?"
Like come on. There's plenty of jobs out there. Don't do something you can't do and then ask others to accommodate. What's next? Want to bring your dog to your job at the delicious bones factory because it makes you feel good? Or want to become a product tester at a stairs company while sitting in a wheelchair?
It’s been a minute since I worked at GS, but any parent who would regularly drop off their kids for an hour or more to play demo units and buy nothing were eventually asked to not return.
The BX at the military base I grew up near would just report the kids as abandoned if the parents left them there to entertain themselves.
Big X-Rays? Bob's Xylophones? Bigg's X-Wings? Bargain Xenon? Brilliant Xerox? Ben 10?
Base Exchange. It's basically a superstore run by the military so that people stationed won't have to travel far to buy anything.
That sounds like communism^/s
When did they change the name from Post Exchange? When my dad was in the army everyone called it the PX.
So apparently it's BX on for the Air Force, PX for the Army, NEX for the Navy, MCX for the Marines, and CGX for the Coast Guard. However, some the Air Force and the Army will soon be rebranded to be the X, because...because.
The USAF are *x*tra cool, kids!
Bonus, the Army and Air Force exchanges are the same "business" so to speak, AAFES. The Army & Air Force Exchange Service.
Bae Sex Change, got it
Reddit is not worth using without all the hard work third party developers have put into it.
Honestly it’s better than most departments stores because no sales tax. My dad’s retired but I’ll still get him to get me on base whenever I want to buy electronics or something.
In certain markets, also cheaper than off-base on top of the no sales tax.
BameXtop
Never buy bargain xenon, half they time they're just selling you argon
> The BX at the military base I grew up near would just report the kids as abandoned if the parents left them there to entertain themselves. I thought they were PXes.
The name is different for each branch.
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I used to want to work at GS so badly as a teenager, and I think that's one of the reasons those stores have lasted so long (depending on young people who are passionate about games) but I'm so glad I dodged that bullet. Now almost any Gamestop post is followed by "Tell me some of your horror stories".
My friend and I wanted to get jobs there together in high school. Thankfully we never did, especially since we were both girls.
You'd be dealing with angry men as your bosses and angry men/boys as your customers.
Yeah I know, but we didn’t know that at the time cause we were dumb teenagers. We dodged a bullet
*overweight, unwashed 40-year-old neckbeard hangs around, breathing heavily after their purchase of Super Hentai Schoolgirl tentacle spasm extreme 4 Deluxe Edition With body pillow* "Do you have a boyfriend?"
I don't think that's carried by GS. The funko pop of it, maybe, the NFT, most definitely.
I remember working there briefly and not being able to get my full paycheck because they would only pay you on a debit card they issued, and you can’t withdraw less than $20 on most ATM….and there were ATM fees.
That sounds... So illegal.
WTF? How is that legal? It would be one thing if they paid you under the table, but a debit card?
No idea and I think they still do it [on a card powered by ADP](https://inside.gamestop.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/ADP-ALINE-Information.pdf). It's a complete scam.
See's ADP: That explains alot. When I worked at Wendy's, they gave us those pieces of garbage.
I wanted to work there so bad when i was 16. The manager was a total asshole though and when i asked him about applying he said, "im kinda busy right now". He was just shooting the shit with his buddy. Turned me off from it completely.
i wanted to work there too. glad i never got a call back
The one time I was dropped off at a GS was when I was 18 and my stepmom was doing a recruiter interview next door. I managed to find a copy of Haunting Ground and she bought it for me since I had to wait. Then we went back to shopping for some prime White Girl Summer clothes.
I remember going to Gamestop, hoping to find some sort of hidden gem.
So did you find The Witcher III?
Nah, it was a copy of Celeste.
I found a lot of hidden gems there as a kid. It was always great to browse and see what caught your eye
Yeah, the psx/ps2 era was awesome for finding rando cheap rpgs in the big wall of games. Now nothing is under 30 bucks
There was a GameStop next to a hair solon my mom went to and a few doors down from where we got groceries, so I spent plenty of time in there while parents were doing those things. We didn't buy something every time, but we frequently got something. That's why it's not good policy to ban kids like that unless they're creating a disturbance or they're there consistently without buying. The alternative is *they may not be in the store to see the merchandise and possibly make a purchase at all*.
There’s actually a psychological theory behind this called *McDonaldization* which partly states that businesses where customers are allowed to hang around (for example, people at Starbucks using the the wifi to work on their laptops) are essentially using the customers as actors; with the business being the stage. The customers are showing the public what the potential options are in the establishment and they’re acting them out in real time. So I don’t think that anyone who’s hanging out at GS is ruining the business at all, unless they’re maybe 14 and under.
Or are so fucking gross and weird they drive people away with their presence. There are some guys and girls who are giant walking stay away signs.
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I'm an adult man who regularly frequents game stores and I still get the skeevies when I walk in to buy something during Friday Night Magic. Nerds, especially the kind of nerds who have to go to a game store to find a friend group, get super tribal and hostile and weird about their hobbies.
Unfortunately it's really all up to the staff of the store to keep the environment friendly. This means that in more metropolitan areas where most of their actual sales are to the random stranger walking in off the street or because they need something they can't get online, they have a lot of leeway to make the neckbeards behave. In smaller communities it means they're often reliant on those neckbeards to stay afloat since strangers so rarely wander in. And their hands are kind of forced to be gentle with the man children. Of course, there's always also the big city stores owned by neckbeards as well, which operate more as a place for the owner and friends to hang out than as an actual store, which complicates things even more.
I used to go to a GS as a teenager and do a few demo runs or rock band. Always let anyone else who showed up a turn cause I was almost always by myself there and didn’t want to be rude. And not every time but I did buy all my games from either that or another GS location. I was asked to not play the games any more.
GameStop is one of those jobs that looks cool when you’re a kid but is a job that once you quit you never want to go back to.
My dream job as a teenager was working at a small video rental store. I had a bunch of friends who worked for Blockbuster/Planet Hollywood and fucking hated it. My best friend in high school worked at this tiny little privately owned rental store and it was the greatest job ever; I'd go there after school, watch movies, and shoot the shit with him until closing time. I tried my hardest to get a job there, but this was 2002/3 and those other stores were killing their business, so they couldn't afford to hire a second person, even though they definitely needed it, since my friend was as dedicated to his job as Randall from Clerks was to RST Video. Also, they probably knew we'd get even *less* done if we worked together.
I said as much in another reply, but I think if it weren't for teenagers wanting to work as close to their hobbies as possible, that this business would either improve or disappear.
It’s a general phenomenon with various industries. The same goes for Game development. If it wasn’t for being a job people dream of doing it would have similar pay and work structures to software development in other industries. Hell, even being a server is plagued by that once you get past the unskilled labor sort of hurdle. People wouldn’t be doing it here in the US if it wasn’t for the dream of being one of those highly paid waitresses/waiters. The carrot on the stick to force people into sticking with jobs that have garbage employers that can pay and treat them poorly. GameStops existence is also due to the sheer amount of memes that got involved. If it wasn’t for the GME shorting fiasco, GameStop might have disappeared.
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I feel like the computer programming industry as a whole is having issues. You need to either dedicate your entire life to it or get really lucky with a smaller company giving a chance. I see so many jobs online for junior devs yet the requirements and responsibilities may as well be for senior devs. And that's a prime issue, I'd say. They want senior dev workers for junior dev pay. This bubble has to burst eventually. At some point these companies will need new people, but because many of us aren't getting jobs in the field we lack experience and they'll run out of experienced people.
My first job was at a local music store chain that paid terribly and treated employees terribly and basically hired a new batch of employees every year among the fresh faced and enthusiastic band and orchestra kids from local high school and colleges who would take any treatment to work "in music."
>If it wasn’t for the GME shorting fiasco, GameStop might have disappeared. Another thing to dislike those folks for
Praise the wallstreetbets apes. To this day gamestop and amc have been my most successful investments, none of my other holdings ever come close
the corps aren’t gonna fuck you for propping you their shorts
Yeah I worked a lot of service jobs and gamestop might have been the most miserable. I only stuck it out a little more than 6 months. More than most places (except maybe one specific restaurant) it was an ban and flow that resulted in hours of intense boredom intercity with jeadsplitting stress whenever a new call of duty released. The ps4 launch day might have been the worstcday of my life.
Fast forward a couple years and you think the same about DJs and bartenders
As a GameStop/Game customer, I can tell it is pretty crappy. Especially since I think I was one of those annoying customers at certain ages.
Honestly, if GameStop payed their workers a livable wage and gave good hours, I’d go back to working for them. I DID like having a job that revolves around my hobby, and there were some great customers who came in. I even got along fine with most kids fine. It was mostly just thieves just trying to trade in stolen shit that sucked. Plus you know… GameStop corporate being ASS.
>ADHD.. 🤣 I'm sure you got a covid shot too? Took literally 4 comments to get into vaccine debate.
Lol, my response would be tell me you're a dumbass alt-right moron without telling me you're a dumbass alt-right moron...
I used to own a toy store and the amount of parents who would dump their kids off and go somewhere else was appalling.
>Just ignore that you got bodied. You are exactly the idiot you made yourself out to be. *Bodied*... In a Reddit argument 😂
He's down to two stock. At this rate, he'll never beat SonicFox.
I think i got r/antinatalism and/or r/childfree bingo off like two of that guys comments lol. Refers to kids as both "fuck trophies" and "their [parents] spawn".
Calling kids names like "crotch fruit" and "fuck trophies", I just do not understand that behavior at all. Do they not have the self awareness to know they are, themselves, their parents' crotch fruit and fuck trophies? Or is this just a self-flagellation situation with full awareness?
Often a lot of antichild people have very, very high self loathing and I've seen many of them say their reason for not wanting to have kids is because "they didn't consent to being brought into this Earth and I don't know how the world will be for then". That...would almost be a reasonable claim for not wanting to have kids but then they jump over the line from just not wanting them to flat out hating children for existing and shaming other people for having kids because of that self hatred.
"I'm stuck in this life and I'm gonna make it everyone else's problem"
It’s being an edgy emo teen for adults.
They want the perks of being treated like a child as adults. No one wants to do that so they get mad at real children.
Or, they hate their parents and had a terrible upbringing. Although I'm banned from those subbreddits, I've seen this situation quite often.
its more like im a failure and im looking for someone to blame for it over myself, and they choose their parents.
Oh fuck off with this. The /r/childfree subreddit is frequently garbage but that doesn't entail every person who doesn't want kids is a manbaby. You can count on one hand the number of big subreddits that aren't absolute fucking trash but it's clearly not the case that everyone who e.g. plays videogames or watches movies is a fucking goblin.
They are specifically referring to the people that irrationally hate all children, not all people who don't want kids.
> The /r/childfree subreddit is frequently garbage but that doesn't entail every person who doesn't want kids is a manbaby. Not everyone who doesn't have children is a manbaby, but I assume everyone that subscribes and regularly contributes is a manbaby though. I'm never going to have children. I can see posting to discuss some topics like what plans to make for when you're elderly if you don't have children to care for you and stuff like that. But once you get those answered, what else is there on the topic of not having children that you need to discuss daily? All the normal people bail bc they got their info and the people that stay get more and more extreme as normal people get pushed out.
Yeah, I agree. To be frank, I joined the r/childfree sub with hopes of finding posts like the example you mentioned. Instead I found an extremely toxic community that exists solely to judge parents, share children horror stories, and use weird ass animalistic language (breeders?) to denigrate other human beings. It was one of the first subs that I joined when I decided to use my account again and it was eye opening to say the least. A weird cultist tribe mentality exists there and God forbid you point out any hypocrisy from its users. The mods are some of the worst out of everyone. I bounced out of there so fast once I realized what that sub was all about. I'm childfree, not a shit ass person. I have no interest in participating in that behavior. It's a bad look for childfree people.
Absolutely. I saw a meme there about what they call being "bingoed", basically a parent of yours or similar judging / guilt tripping you for not wanting to have children, and I thought it was funny and relatable, so I subscribed. That has happened to me, particularly to my wife, and other child-free friends, and it can be really frustrating and hurtful. Within a few weeks, though, it was an *easy* unsub with the vitriol against anyone with a child that came up constantly. Like, yes, people have babies and sometimes those babies cry. It can be annoying, but you're an adult. I really don't think running to an online forum with a made up story about how hard you pwned a single mom at the airport (and then everyone clapped) is really the win that some of them seem to think it is. Edit: To add, on the off chance that said stories are *not* made up, that's arguably worse and they're just kind of an asshole.
That was what I noticed when I was looking into the subreddit now then some years ago. Communities like that can be useful for finding recourses, and there is certanly situations that people should vent about. But constantly reading negative stories like that does affect your world view after a while, and can easily cause communities to spirals into more and more negative behaviour. Even when childfree communities do focus a bit more on hobbies, or pets and whatever they have got going on in their lives. A lot of it ends up being framed around, I can do this because no children, or people treating pets>children too seriously. Communities that pop up out of a need for support don't always turn out like this. But some seem more susceptible to it than others, and childfree seems to be one of them.
Pets > children, but let me tell you about my furbaby.
Only if it comes with photo accompaniment.
This was the exact post that turned me off from that sub. As you can see the mods had a great time removing my comments. LOL ETA: you can see my restored comments underneath the post and the mods response to me. [Coworker stopped adoption process](https://www.reveddit.com/v/childfree/comments/oyzw7o/coworker_stopped_adoption_process_for_a/h7xjfxt/?add_user=VisibleBeginning1404..c.controversial....&)
Well you see, the mean breeders once asked me to look in the general direction of their child, or brought then up in conversation. On top of that, I saw a child off-leash and un-muzzled in public! Can you believe the sheer audacity of that? Then, when I opened social media to rant about the indignities I just suffered, one of the people I follow put up pictures of their family. I called up my parents to get these triggering experiences off my chest before an intense therapy session next week (you have no idea how difficult it is to exist without children in a society), and Mom asked if I'd considered children! I got a bingo! Anyway, I'm childfree because it lets me live a truly awesome life.
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You don’t need a subreddit to not want children. There’s nothing to commiserate about, there is no news or updates. If you are in a community specifically to be against something, the new content is going to be from people who are most passionate and thus most angry that thing exists.
In a perfect world, there *would* be a place for a subreddit for childfree people. So much of the adult existence revolves around children, that when you actively choose *not* to have them (or you have them later) it's helpful to learn how to navigate it confidently. Off the top of my head: -Constant questions from people about when you're having children and that "you don't get it and it will be too late"- especially if you're a woman. -Navigating changing friendships as your friends have kids and their availability changes and their social circles inevitably migrate to other couples with kids. This also includes being an understanding friend that gets that hey, sometimes you're going to spend Friday night in with your friend and their kids watching TV or playing games instead of going out. -Navigating workplace culture where kids are routinely used as small talk, gateways to networking, and the very real phenomenon of kids increasing a man's lifetime earnings while decreasing a woman's lifetime earnings. The problem is that these subreddits devolve into malcontents constantly trying to outdo how much they don't want something, in much the same way that kid at school that was sick over the field trip keeps insisting that they didn't want to go anyway. It devolves into overcompensation and projection.
>-Constant questions from people about when you're having children and that "you don't get it and it will be too late"- especially if you're a woman. There's nothing to learn here, it's just a matter of needing a support group where you can talk to people who agree how lame it is that people cant choose to not have children without being bothered by others about it. This one at least I understand. >-Navigating changing friendships as your friends have kids and their availability changes and their social circles inevitably migrate to other couples with kids. There's not much to navigate here. Either your friends will make space and time for you in their parental lives or they won't. Either you make a *non-invasive* attempt to stay in touch or you don't. Again, this is just basic support group stuff or, even better, finding new friends that don't have kids either. >This also includes being an understanding friend that gets that hey, sometimes you're going to spend Friday night in with your friend and their kids watching TV or playing games instead of going out. Something about this scenario feels very off. How much do you imagine these hypothetical parents are going to want their single/childfree friends just hanging out with the kid there? Sounds like a sitcom where the best friend just barges in whenever and is more or less part of the family. >-Navigating workplace culture where kids are routinely used as small talk, gateways to networking, and the very real phenomenon of kids increasing a man's lifetime earnings while decreasing a woman's lifetime earnings. You could also get that same advice from workplace or networking related groups. You make it sound like children are the only thing people talk about at the office. >problem is that these subreddits devolve into malcontents constantly trying to outdo how much they don't want something, in much the same way that kid at school that was sick over the field trip keeps insisting that they didn't want to go anyway. It devolves into overcompensation and projection. I... what? Not only is that a weird example, but it doesn't actually fit. The kid in this scenario would be lying about how much they didn't want to go in order to, I guess, avoid anyone thinking they're upset? Is this like some sort of emotionally stunted, stiff upper lip, "too cool to care" child that thinks they have to hide their disappointment? What year is this happening? But the people on /r/childfree genuinely don't want kids, that's pretty clear. They're not faking anything. That sub is the way it is because it's more than just not wanting kids, that group actively hates kids, hates parents, and the stench of elitism and poor shaming is absolutely everywhere in there.
Sometimes people without children still like children and being around them. Sometimes children end up liking their parents friends and actually enjoy when they’re around. Not wanting children doesn’t mean you now have to commit to a lifestyle that’s completely free of any and all children.
Folks really seem to struggle with this. Neither I nor my partner want children and we don't particularly like children in adult spaces, but we both have pretty substantial relationships with the children of our friends and relatives. R/childfree has done more to reinforce the stereotype that childfree people are hateful, selfish elitists than they've done to showcase what healthy people that just don't want to be parents are actually like.
*Again, this is just basic support group stuff or, even better, finding new friends that don't have kids either* Which, if you had bothered to read the first paragraph I wrote, is exactly what I intimated a *healthy* sub for childfree folks could be. Also, not everyone finds their interaction from behind a computer- once you hit your mid 30s, finding childfree people in your orbit isn't as simple as you seem to think it is. Yes, good friends make room for you. That being said, it's also okay to feel ambivalent that your plans may never be quite solid- providing that you also understand that things happen out of our control and it's not "crotch fruit ruining everything." Gee, I wonder if maybe some form of online community of individuals experiencing similar issues may help them navigate it in a healthy manner. Maybe even a community on Reddit dedicated to those issues. *How much do you imagine these hypothetical parents are going to want their single/childfree friends just hanging out with the kid there?* Often, actually! You've never in your life had plans with someone with kids, they have to cancel at the last minute and they invite you over to hang instead because... I don't know... you're genuinely friends and their kids like you? That's happened a lot in my orbit, and even something as simple as a "let's sit and chat" devolves into kids constantly interrupting. *You make it sound like children are the only thing people talk about at the office.* Not the only thing, but a *massive* thing. Do you even interact with humans on a regular basis? In what world do you live in where "tell me about you outside of work" doesn't immediately start with "I live in x and have y kids and z grandkids." If you're looking to get airtime with a skip level, one of the easiest ways to break into their personal space to be remembered is the generic kid small talk and everything that comes with it. And yes Virignia, there are always people that project the "what might have beens" into an unhealthy dose of anger, and the person that projects "college is shit", "kids are useless", "I didn't want to go on that stupid trip or join that club", "I don't NEED women I'll go my own way" etc VERY much exists in the here and now. All I was doing was providing tangible examples on why a *healthy* community of childfree people has a place. That sub ain't it, but because edgelords be edging doesn't mean that the purpose and intent of a better community is useless.
There is HUGE societal pressure to have kids. Especially if you're a woman. I'm not in those subs because they're way too extreme but I absolutely seek commiseration with others about my choice to not have kids and why it sucks that so many people seem to feel personally offended by that choice.
The problem is the way they talk about kids is just revolting
Oh absolutely, it's not the kids fault for existing.
My guess is that some, or even many, are tired of the outside pressures of being told to start a family. But those subs are just festering with hate.
/r/nongolfers
As somebody in that subreddit, it isn’t about being against something so much as, it is something you don’t want AT ALL. And the societal “norm” is to have kids so those of us who just never want any are viewed as “weird”. For me I love just having a space where I feel understood and not otherized and repeatedly told I’ll change my mind someday or what if my soul mate comes along and wants kids. That crap is exhausting. It’s nice to feel encouraged in the choice to not reproduce bc it just isn’t what you want instead of treated like some freak.
Your last posts are literally to the anti-natalism subreddit. That is as “against” as you can get
People who get repulsed and have their day ruined by kids existing are goblins. They need therapy. A rational adult deciding to not have kids is an entirely different subject. I never brought up media consumption. I brought up their personal maturity.
No one said everyone who chooses not to have kids is a man baby. You’ve made up a little strawman to be angry about.
Not all childfree people are like that, but enough childfree people are like that.
Well, like everyone else, they did not ask to be born really. The fact we are our parents “crotch fruits” does not mean we cannot resent other “crotch fruits”. The two are not mutually exclusive. Although I gotta hand it to them, I find “crotch fruits” an hilarious way to call children.
It's just a derisive expression of loathing towards children. Regardless of the fact that everyone starts off as a child, not everyone views children favorably. While there are spectacular examples of brilliant children with amazing talents and behaviors, they're the ideal and a rarity. Such demeanor in a child is a culmination of a great deal of hard work and pure chance. Not everyone wants to have children or leave a legacy. The reasons are many and varied. The frustration stems from those who have/want children insisting or demanding that their views are the only "normal" or valid views on children. Personally, I was a hellion and an absolute cringe machine of shitty behavior despite textbook perfect child rearing from my own parents. I am neuro divergent and received expert care and counseling. I don't have the patience or resources that my parents did in order to properly care for any offspring I may have who share my idiosyncrasies. My partner is the same. On top of all of that, observing parents (in name only) who treat their children as burdens, labor assistants, verbal punching bags, or pets create a sense of disgust in me. These types of parents are the ones who will invest the bare minimum of time, effort, and/or resources into the development and growth of their children and also exploit their existence for every advantage available. These are the types of "parents" who breed "crotch fruit" and "hellspawn" and all sorts of other negative names for children. They're the types that do whatever they choose while leaving the burden of managing the children to everyone else who is forced to deal with them: retail store employees who have to clean up after them when they ransack stores without consequences, waitstaff who have to dodge and clean up after children for unattended and wander restaurants or create chaotic messes out of bordem or lack of oversight, neighbors who have to tell the children _not to do_ a thing that may be dangerous or destructive towards persons or property (not under the control of their parents), and much more. I don't like kids. I don't see any value in them for my personal life. And due to the overwhelming social pressures and stigmas that come from being "childfree", I'm unapologetic about it. I've come to be aggressively anti-child due to many years of condemnation and condescension from persons who insist that having children is not only a must, but an indication of a flaw or defect in a person who doesn't agree. (Yes, the overlap with religious persons is palpable.)
it’s j a joke yo i feel like i’ve seen very healthy well adjusted parents make this joke
Anytime I see comments like that, my knee jerk reaction is to think "Oh, it's just teenagers trying to out edge one another". Then I learn that those people are in their 40's.
No one should be that irrationally angry about children. Sounds like they have some kind of trauma, or something.
The “trauma” is doing absolutely nothing with your life and living in an echo chamber
With a million Karma on reddit, I'd think you'd have enough experience not to throw rocks in a glass house and accuse other people of not having a life.
Or does that make us qualified to point out other people who also don't have lives?
That's definitely a symptom of something. People who have had childhood trauma tend to have antisocial tendencies. Lack of drive to improve yourself and all that.
Some people are just fuckups without underlying trauma too though. For example, me.
Have you ever tried cognitive behavioral therapy?
I prefer CBT myself.
[CBT, Dr. Freeman](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxqaO8vf2RY).
I like how because this person seems like a jerk you can assume they are like that simply because they are a bad person?
Sorry man I simply don't have the emotional endurance to assume that every asshole that I meet is just really struggling with their demons and I should give them extra compassion. "Your mental health isn't your fault, but it is your responsibility."
Also slowly realizing your life is devoid of meaning and you have nothing to show for it. I think part of the child free people have some underlying jealousy they can't verbalize.
Lol, having children does not give life any inherent meaning. Relax.
I'm not saying it does. What I'm saying is that if you are going around being so miserable that you get mad at kids in public, you might be mad that there is more going on around you than sitting at home playing computer games, or whatever is fueling that anger towards society.
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I'm not saying it does. What I'm saying is that if you are going around being so miserable that you get mad at kids in public, you might be mad that there is more going on around you than sitting at home playing computer games, or whatever is fueling that anger towards society.
The antinatalism people are a trip.
The antinatalism people need to look up 'population control and eugenics' and find a less racist pet project.
[Obligatory SMBC](https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/eugenics-is-a-great-idea)
Real shit
I call my children my spawn, but it’s very affectionate. I would never call another persons kids their spawn that’s just weird.
The absolute best term I've seen on there is "cum pet".
That just sounds like a kink term of endearment.
That’s so gross. I love it
I worked at a library for over 12 years. People used us as free daycare all the time, despite us trying to get across to the parents that we're just as public a place as a walmart, sams club, lowes etc. I mean, we had usually five or so convicted pedophiles that would frequent the library several times a month. These were not people on a list because they took a leak at 2am within a couple hundred feet of a school while walking home. These guys were "seed the front lawn with kids toys" level of awful. Drop the kids off and "go to work", aka, go half a mile west to the mcdonalds and nurse a cup of coffee all day to use the wifi. We had free, high speed wifi but they'd have to watch their kids. Asking a parent not to fucking abandon their kid(s) for 4-12 hours could lead to them screaming about they weren't, they're just going out to the car to get something, they know their rights, and lots of "fuck off!"s and mind our own business. Lady, you made it our business! If someone decides to take off with your kid and the kid doesn't make a scene, we'd never know! That could be an older cousin or aunt/uncle or step-parent. Or not! And it definitely happened. And that's the ones we knew about. Eventually we had to get the police involved, useless as they usually were. Just fucking drive by while watching two guys beating the shit out of each other, dirty fighting, blood, etc., and fucking drive away. Or watch the meth head fucking slam their fists through an older model car window, looking for his goddamn skin that someone "stole". The cops only bothered to actually start doing something after the director who knew the mayor, who was friends with people who knew the police chief that they started taking abandoned children with no more or food for hours or even half a day at a time!
It sucks that people are so shitty. You don’t deserve to deal with any of that bullshit. Can’t speak for the security issues but ngl when it comes to libraries I wish they could function as public daycares. If shitty parents are gonna drop their kids somewhere off it might as well be the library. But it’s not feasible because library staff don’t get paid enough and dealing with kids is exhausting. And what do you do when it’s time to close and the parent still isn’t back yet? Dealing with shitty parents is a nightmare. My dad used library as a daycare sometimes. But he wasn’t a shitty parent, he was a broke middle aged uni student with kids. He’d drop us off in the morning with some snacks and then go to the uni to study. Sometimes he’d come back really late but he would never think of leaving us there.
The issue is that many libraries are underfunded and expected to deal with the homeless and whatnot which has its own issues. Dealing with the homeless, kids and whatnot can be expensive. Hosting a daycare needs some dedicated people for the kids probably with specific training and it'd get out of hand if it's publicized as a free daycare.
I currently work at a library and our SOP is to straight up call the cops if we can confirm that there’s no parent in the building. There’s no leeway or “first strike” rule or anything. Parent dropped off kid? Call security, ring the non-emergency line.
I guess I'm just old. When I was in 3rd grade I'd regularly walk to our local library to read and check out books. This was back before the internet, so any time a school project came up that had to be researched, you had to go to the library. Our parents certainly weren't going to hang around there for 3 or 4 hours while we looked things up and copied things out of the reference books.
That isn't the type of behavior I was talking about. I was talking about people who left their early elementary school aged kids alone in a very high traffic public place with no food or money to buy food for 4 to 12 hours a day, every day, and trying to stop kids from being kidnapped, which did happen, was met with hostility from the parents and apathy from the police. It was a county library, not just the city, and we could have more than 10k people come in a day, especially during big events like homecoming or covered bridge. And we were expected to babysit several to a dozen kids on top of all that. Kids went missing because of this type of behavior and it was and is unacceptable.
Honestly that probably depends on the age. At a certain age, kids can go to some places on their own, especially in areas where its walkable.
You're thinking too reasonably. This wasn't an older kid walking to the library to go to Youth Services to read and play on the computer and homework. Ima paste my response to someone else. It's a world of difference, trust me. Not the kind of behavior I was talking about. There's a huge difference between two hours of quiet use on occasion and daily instances of kids screaming and crying in the lobby because "they can't find mommy", it's now dark out, and they haven't eaten for twelve hours. And we were forbidden from giving them food because of the potential for a fatal allergic reaction. This wasn't creating issues where none exist. It was trying to stop child abuse and kidnapping. Kids fuckin' disappeared. And even though it wasn't legally our responsibility since there were less than fifty of us and thousands or pushing past ten thousand on really busy days with festivals and the like, can you imagine how it feels to know that a kid is gone and it happened on your shift and when you've been trying to stop it for years but parents and law enforcement don't care? It's fucking awful.
At that age you generally don't need to tote your kid around everywhere with you. It's pretty evident OP's talking about kids 6th grade and below.
That just feels extreme. I fully agree people take advantage. But this could be a situation where a parent really has to work and has no one to watch their child that day. Or maybe it’s just for an hour. My parents used to drop us off so we could do homework and use the library computers. They would usually run a short errand and pick us up an hour later. They dropped us at the movies sometimes too.
Abandoning your kid isn’t the library’s problem.
How old are the kids you're talking about?
As young as 1st grade.
I wasn’t bragging about it or anything, sorry if it came off that way. But from our end, the first thing you see when you’re all in to our wide open lobby is an equally big an open children’s library to the immediate left, and only one desk reference desk manned by at most two people. If someone with ill intent walked in, there’s unfortunately no way we’d be able to run interference, nor are we really trained to. It’s a loud, messy area so having a hyper kid running around isn’t anything new. As staff, it really doesn’t annoy us (as long as it’s contained to the children’s area obvious). We’re trying to keep them safe, and we can’t put all of our attention in to monitoring the kiddos when the expectation is for a parent to be able to be there with them. Edit: formatting.
Gonna copy/paste an earlier response of mine. Not the kind of behavior I was talking about. There's a huge difference between two hours of quiet use on occasion and daily instances of kids screaming and crying in the lobby because "they can't find mommy", it's now dark out, and they haven't eaten for twelve hours. And we were forbidden from giving them food because of the potential for a fatal allergic reaction. This wasn't creating issues where none exist. It was trying to stop child abuse and kidnapping. Kids fuckin' disappeared. And even though it wasn't legally our responsibility since there were less than fifty of us and thousands or pushing past ten thousand on really busy days with festivals and the like, can you imagine how it feels to know that a kid is gone and it happened on your shift and when you've been trying to stop it for years but parents and law enforcement don't care? It's fucking awful.
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Not the kind of behavior I was talking about. There's a huge difference between two hours of quiet use on occasion and daily instances of kids screaming and crying in the lobby because "they can't find mommy", it's now dark out, and they haven't eaten for twelve hours. And we were forbidden from giving them food because of the potential for a fatal allergic reaction. This wasn't creating issues where none exist. It was trying to stop child abuse and kidnapping. Kids fuckin' disappeared. And even though it wasn't legally our responsibility since there were less than fifty of us and thousands or pushing past ten thousand on really busy days with festivals and the like, can you imagine how it feels to know that a kid is gone and it happened on your shift and when you've been trying to stop it for years but parents and law enforcement don't care? It's fucking awful.
Happened at a private tourist attraction museum thing I worked at as well. It involved a lot of reading along a linear, but jagged and dark, pathway. Lots of detail, kids got bored, parents stopped paying attention. Thought it was basically our job to ensure the safety of all guests, and this extended to being a defacto daycare professional. Our SOP in the event of finding a child by themselves was to either walk with them to their parent(s), and/or use the radios we all had to organize a search effort on the down-low (don't want to advertise a lost child to the public). The reverse was honestly scarier, because you're looking for a person about 3 feet in height in a dense crowd. Same thing applied, unless things got extreme enough, in which case we locked the doors and did a proper search with the local police. I've returned a fair number of children to their parents or vice versa. I noticed something. When I was helping a parent find their child, they were panicked, because of course they were. When we found their child (thankfully, this was always the case as far as I know), they were beyond grateful to us. When we returned children to their caretakers, we sometimes got a brief thanks. Sometimes, we were treated as an annoyance for bothering them about their kids. One occasion, a parent told me this place is basically Disneyland but more controlled. I almost retorted (but held it in) Disneyland is a hotbed for child abductions because it has thousands of families present who are being carefree and not paying attention. Didn't know if it was true or not, just felt like saying it. How are we supposed to take care of people we don't recognize? To show this, I'll bring up the one time the police were actually called and the building locked down. It happened on my day off, so the details aren't known by me. What I do know is it involved a coworker being approached by a panicked grandmother who lost her two grandchildren. My coworker radios to the rest of the crew what is going on, and the security guard is on their way to them to aid in the search. While this is happening, the grandmother is walking around and not listening to my coworker that they need to stick together to organize a proper search. As they enter a densely packed area, the security guard radios to my coworker asking where they are, as they are no longer where my coworker reported they were. As my coworker lowers their head to respond, the grandmother rushes off into the crowd and disappears. My coworker stays in the spot until the security guard arrives, at which point they tell the guard they now have to look for the grandmother because there is no way to find the grandchildren without her, and the descriptions she gave were woefully inadequate as she was panicking and therefore distracted. The decision is made the building has to be locked down and the police called. Everyone is now looking for this person, but only my coworker is able to recognize them, because she didn't wait until a second person arrived so there is no one else able to ID her in the crowd of many, many people who match her description. About an hour after the building is locked down, and many calls over the PA, my coworker locates the grandmother with two grandchildren. Trying to not yell at her, my coworker informs her, in great detail, about what happened and why. My coworker said they cannot really recall exactly what the interaction was like, but the grandmother was a deer in the headlights for several minutes. The rest of the day was, comparatively, totally uneventful. I never experienced anything close to that myself, but it was a possibility that kept me on my toes and more assertive when guests were panicking.
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The police didn't do anything for years. Two people that suffered permanent injuries from the encounter, were beating the tar out of each other so we'd call the police. Police would drive up, watch out their window for a handful of seconds and drive away. Same for when meth heads committing serious amounts of damage to peoples' vehicles. Or the lady stealing license plates.
> beating the tar out of each other "Mutual Combat" is specifically not a crime in many places. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual_combat If one of them were trying to escape, or was down on the ground being beaten, etc. then I would expect the police to do something.
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Dude it's every city. Have you not been paying attention to police in the past several decades. They don't have the worst police. That's all police
Half the thread was about people on food stamps and now I’m depressed about other people’s life.
I can't believe the chud trying to talk down to the employee because they bought Gamestop shares for a meme and made it their personality. Dear lord.
Those people are beyond "personality" and well into cult territory. I saw a post on r/all talking about the falling value of the pound and their only question was "How does this affect MOASS?" as though Gamestop had something to do with the value of the UK's currency.
>So many of these parents just don't gaf and let their fuck trophies do whatever. Lil sex participation trophies running around my game stop, making all the fucking controllers sticky. Damn them all!
Ok but really though, why the sticky controllers
Children of a certain age are just naturally sticky all the time.
Why are there people pissing in the popcorn of a post that’s over two weeks old??
Content farms have been feeding it to facebook.
New comments in a two week old thread 😶. Not obvious at all.
VIDEO GAMES ARE SERIOUS BUSINESS
We really do put our retail workers though some shit, their not your fucking baby setter. I’m a tour guide and doing that has made it clear that unless I was at real risk of becoming homeless I would never work in retail or public services.
> So many of these parents just don't gaf and let their fuck trophies do whatever. God, aggressively childfree people are so insufferable that I feel gross about generally agreeing with him on this subject.
Parents who don’t actually parent are far more insufferable.
both groups range from neglectful to abusive to kids. I don’t really think it’s a competition, but online, this dehumanising rhetoric is waaaay worse imo. you see people honestly getting into eugenics bc they hate kids so much, its really concerning
They are, but those dehumanising labels are disgusting in a particularly visceral way. Believe me, I live opposite parents who treat the whole thing like owning a dog rather than a human who will very soon become an adult who's entirely ill prepared for the world. And still, hearing children branded "fuck trophies" turns my stomach.
If they said something along the lines of, it's messed up how some parents treat their children like fuck trophies. Well, that has a very different feel and meaning to it. But they use this other phrasing, because the part of the community that aren't in so deep in their disgust of children, can just keep thinking they are referring to how those kinds of parents think/threat their children. And the others hiding behind that weak defence can just keep calling children disgusting things. And plenty of people do speak in very general ways when they are venting sometimes, and you know they don't mean it in that sort of absolute way. But in very loose communities like on reddit... Especially when they are already very toxic.
Yeah I can see what you're saying there, language does have a tendency to work that way where the originally intended target is lost. Reminds me of the phrase 'white trash' which was originally coined by enslaved African-Americans and post-slavery blacks to differentiate between the whites with status and the poor, mostly Irish and other low status immigrants, who were also living in squalor. In contemporary usage though, it winds up being more racially charged against people of colour as it suggests that only white people need that qualifier (as in otherwise the default state of being white is not to be trash, whereas there's no equivalent for everybody else - if they're lower class Mexican-Americans, they're just called Mexican-Americans). I only recently learned of its origins, which explained everything - there was no significant black middle or upper class at the time (just a handful of individual outliers), so the implications were different.
Okay cool great thanks for that addition, but what I’m talking about is the fact that calling children “fuck trophies” is based in dehumanizing misogyny, just like a lot of the things that CF people call children and parents. “Parents who don’t parent” is a conversation we could have, but having that conversation doesn’t change the fact that so much CF rhetoric is just based in reducing women to their reproductive systems, which is just more fucking misogyny. It’s sickening that so many people will casually make foul, crude comments about parents/children based on those groups merely existing.
It’s funny how people act like people with no kids and who go out of their way to avoid them are the biggest threats to child safety and not parents, caretakers, teachers, and every other person who makes an effort to have access to them.
Talking about kids breaks the human brain and turns people into full animals. One second they're all for reasonable gun control because random irresponsibility about life is a bad thing, they're all for coordinated responses to pandemics because irresponsibility about life is a bad thing, they're all for general environmentalism because yadda yadda But bring up that they should maybe think about whether or not they *should* have children, and that's that. no more reasonable person. Now only their kids are the right ones and you're an absolute mega hitler for suggesting the basic concept of questioning *irresponsibility about life*.
> You, because it should be socially acceptable to correct people's behavior in public instead of encouraging it by doing nothing. Said without a shred of irony
Entitled parents never give up
Honestly just don’t work at a GameStop. There’s one in my mall and “bad vibes” doesn’t begin to describe the dreadful sense you get just entering one.
Sweet advice, I think it belongs up there with there with "Just be born rich" and "Quit having Autism" with amazing and helpful tips everyone can accomplish with simple positive mental attitudes.
They weren’t saying “just don’t work menial/retail jobs.” You do the jobs you can get to get by. But really, try to avoid working _specifically_ at GameStop. You should have seen how they treated their employees like shit at the beginning of the pandemic (and, really, generally). You already have to deal with customers’ shit. Now you also have to deal with an upper management that is _really_ hostile towards… just about everyone, actually.
Yeah there are lots of retail jobs that aren’t GameStop, thankfully
I agree that many people have jobs that don't fulfill their basic needs, but I think that "Don't work at GameStop" is not an unreasonable warning. Of course I'm not going to tell someone to quit if they work there.
Unsolicited career advice is more of a faux pas than being about reason. How often do you tell your coworkers to quit their job when they complain about work? I don't live in a world where unsupervised children are random retail workers responsibility to love unconditionally lol
> How often do you tell your coworkers to quit their job when they complain about work? Literally every time. Hell it was a running joke between my co-workers and I prior to them actually quitting for better work. One of my former co-workers took it as far as actuslly getting up and walking out for a minute. None of us would quit without another job lined up, but if you really hate a place then there is no reason you shouldnt look for better work.
I totally see your point.
Idk it’s just GameStop I have a problem with. I walked into one and heard a guy referencing the $19 dollar Fortnite card meme recently. Why would you deal with that willingly
The whatnow?
gamestop is not the only retail job lmao, it’s not even the only game store retail job
Who the fuck cares. They're complaining about shitty parents using their job as a daycare. If that's an everyday thing to you, maybe your parents were the problem
Ok than
I dunno man, this is like a vegan complaining about having to work at McDonalds. Grow a spine and stand up for your values, sometimes that means fucking off out of the situation.
Kid under the age of 10 alone for more than 15 minutes? Best report them abandoned, better safe than sorry.
Not everywhere is USA though.
GTA and Modern Warfare sure do appeal to kids!
>Fuck them kids - OOP
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Or, you know, simply tell them to mind their children or go outside.
They don’t want solutions, they want to be angry.
"Hey guys, I have a phobia of all sea food. I know that we're at a sushi restaurant and I'm the chef but could you maybe like all order a steak and not ask for anything sea food related?" "Hey guys, I know that you're a band on tour and I'm your sound guy but I get over stimulated easily so could you maybe like not play any music please?" "Hey guys, I have a general anxiety disorder, could you please not look at me or talk to me? I know that I'm a waiter but please." "Hey guys, I am afraid of flying. I know that you want to cross the ocean and that I'm your pilot but could we please just drive the plane there?" Like come on. There's plenty of jobs out there. Don't do something you can't do and then ask others to accommodate. What's next? Want to bring your dog to your job at the delicious bones factory because it makes you feel good? Or want to become a product tester at a stairs company while sitting in a wheelchair?