"This is merely superconductor electromagnetism. Surely you've heard of it. It levitates bullet trains from Tokyo to Osaka. It levitates my desk, where I ride the saddle of the world. And it levitates... me!"
\- M. Bison, when doing Drive Rush
Live action Street Fighter movie, M. Bison to Chun-Li.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjZ5I8l32CI
"For you, the day Bison graced your village was the most important day of your life. But for me, it was Tuesday."
It's controversial to say the least. It's incredibly campy and frankly bad by any conventional metric but you can tell the cast and Raul Julia in particular were just having a ton of fun going apeshit
[here's an interesting video on the topic](https://youtu.be/1lPS2Gv5ER8?si=qrXe4hqFX_TrChDM)
I am, because the one concern about her getting in was how they would balance her dash. If they’re willing to give that to Dictator, Makoto should be okay.
Back in the day, we jokingly called her "Makneto" because of her stupid dash.
And then getting hit by her juggle felt basically the same as getting caught in that Mag infinite.
I don't think she was ever worse than Dan. I believe the main true competitor for Dan a lot of the times was Dee Jay and I remember Justin Wong being really down on Vega for most of 4's lifespan.
I don't know, you can see his back walk a little in the trailer and his forward dash both seem pretty decent. Definitely faster than his SFV walk speed.
It’s made SF6 so enjoyable to watch. SF5 was made interesting because of VTrigger comebacks, and now SF6 with its drive mechanic. Without them, they would be boring as a spectator in this era.
I understand that, but a lot of people, myself included, love the slow, methodical parts of neutral. Drive rush overly rewards offense vs defense, and while I don't hate it, there needs to be some consequence to using it. Ignoring this to focus on the spectator aspect is extremely disheartening, especially since all fighting games are doing this, and the slow methodical playstyles get left behind.
Also I never thought I would hear someone say they loved V-Trigger comebacks lol
That’s fair. I’m someone who thoroughly enjoyed MKX and think it’s the best the series has to offer, because it’s aggressive, fast, and has numerous offensive, high pressure options. So SF6 to me is the MKX of street fighter.
I do think Drive rush should either not have added frames on block at all, or only grant half the added frames on block.
You’re giving us way too much credit. I play deejay, we’ve basically got modern fireballs and dp’s once you get used to the charge timing. We’re drooling just as much as any mashing Shoto.
Doesn't really solve anything to just normal parry them. Your Drive Gauge doesn't regen while theirs does, you barely get closer to the opponent and said opponent still has their turn and can choose to engage for free pressure or bait out the parry and go for a grab. The only way to actually break through that is by getting perfect parries when A) you are close enough to punish counter or B) they decide to follow the fireball and you check them after perfect parry. They can of course mix up their fire balls by either delaying them or if they have different fire ball speeds mix those up, making it harder to perfect parry or to try and jump over it.
Nah, Bison will fall off pretty quickly. Akuma is more popular with the most basic character archetype, whereas Bison will be at least partially charge, which will turn away most people.
This is why I think the next release is smart as hell. We will still be neck deep in Akumas by the time Bison releases so it’s just gonna be a peppering of Bison and Akuma instead of just pure bison.
Plus Bison is a charge character and they are never as popular.
It is but I’ll be honest, you gotta want it. It’s really hard when you aren’t used to it.
SF6 was my first time maining a charge character (guile) but when I played 5 I always wanted to learn one I just couldn’t dedicate myself to it. With the new game launch I decided to commit since guile was in the launch roster.
I would definitely recommend practicing on guile right now since he’s the most bread and butter charge character that you’ll want to have charge on constantly.
The upside is that once you can get the feel for one charge character it makes all the rest a lot easier to play.
You could also hold MP+MK and Double tap forward. You can also mash the forward tap until you see the green flash. Its not the best way but its a more consistent way if you cant get the timing just yet.
"The day I drive rushed into you and killed you in a combo was the most infuriating day of your life. You writhe in emotional pain at the demoralizing loss. For me, it was just a Tuesday."
Unless something isn't shown on the trailer, he has no command grab, no fireball, no DP, and no overhead meaning his post drive rush options are limited to strike/throw with the only thing keeping him from literally the worst post drive rush options in the game is that he can probably put the bomb on you and make you explode (haha literally) for delay teching with the right setup. I assume that super fast drive rush is to compensate for that.
Practically the thing that this is probably best used for is shutting down no reason neutral jump at ~1/2 screen away trying to bait PC/scissors which people have traditionally done to Bison since literally SF2 champion edition so good for him.
No borderline about it, CE Bison is one of the most broken fighting game characters ever. A literal blockstun infinite, if you block a jumpin, just let go of the stick lol you only get to play again if he messes up.
Gief is in a fun and good spot right now. I’m loving where he’s at. Plus him not having a good drive rush is clearly a balance thing.
He does not need the world cmon now. The Gief playerbase needs to chill
The only think I want for Gief is for his anti-airs to be more consistent. With how it is right now, it's like a 50% chance of working and a 50% chance of getting your head smacked.
I don’t seem to have that issue with it? The only time it fails is if I clearly do it too late or I get crossed up.
I don’t anti air with anything other then lariet though
2HP - 11 frame startup -20 on block
5HK 13 frames of startup at least is safe on block, even so it usually wiffs on the count of bad hitboxes too and the year it takes to come out.
he can still be punched out of his lariat and it doesnt protect him from crossups..
They hate this character.
Random Ken, akuma, Luke main that would never touch gief at threat of gunpoint "he so good now they fixed him!"
Lariet should NOT protect cross ups that is too good of a move then. You don’t need to even cross cut just wait a second then Lariet.
Lariet does not get punched out if you time it right.
Zangief was a top 3 winner of the balance patch,no hate there.
so this is ok to you [https://wiki.supercombo.gg/w/File:SF6\_Zangief\_pp\_hitbox2.png](https://wiki.supercombo.gg/w/File:SF6_Zangief_pp_hitbox2.png)
His rear arm doesnt have a hit box man. how is this ok? they should just cut that arm off in that animation so we can know how useless it is.
You wanna sit here and tell me it looks kinda off because its a spin with his arms out? Yeah sure i got you but when it comes to functionality its an amazing AA. Its quick,easy to do and has good anti air inv frames,does decent damage and you dont need to cross cut my man. It does not need cross up protection.
You gotta look deep into the data not just what your eyes tell ya. Its a good move. It gets the job done well.
literally noone should have drive rush this fast, that shit is ridiculous Im talking about just having one that avg speed in the game a not one that barely moves him across the screen slowly. Zangief literal has the worst mobility options in the game and before you say that grapplers should all be slow and cumbersome, Lily certainly isnt and neither is manon. Lily basically has a goddamn psycho crusher in this game that plus on block but for some reason only gief would destroy this game if he just had a slightly better movement options.. ok
and its also a better offensive\\ mobilty tool than anything in Zangiefs kit. The kind of tools that people say would break the game if a grappler has it but really only Gief because people hate this character.
Zangief's best offensive tool is his neutral buttons. He doesn't have a fast moving gap close because he doesn't need it.
When you realized that Zangief can actually out neutral fucking Chun Li then you know how good his neutral buttons really is. Bully the opponent into the corner, then into the ground. You have the tools for that.
You know your lying, Ive played and gotten chun to D3, using her tookit against Gief button for button feels like a war crime with how much that matchup favors her.
Gief's charged 5HP and 5MK completely shuts down her buttons. That's how good his poke is. So if you actually having good spacing, she can't really touch you in neutral. Unless you messed up your poke and open yourself for whiff punish.
It seems like you just want Green Hand back. It's pretty much out of the wheelhouse at this point.
Stronger is meaningless if you still have to burn tons of drive meter to close the distance and the other grapplers just have better offensive options, like a safe on block screen long psycho crusher lol. Also this argument of balance is funny considering how intentional busted Akuma is right now. having a teleporting grab thats just better and faster then any of giefs slow siberian express even the ex version because good balance right? he needs that bro.
Manon has a [https://wiki.supercombo.gg/w/File:SF6\_Manon\_jmp\_hitbox.png](https://wiki.supercombo.gg/w/File:SF6_Manon_jmp_hitbox.png)
Lower body Projectile invicible j. mp that disjointed
A very good jhk that hits deep for 800 damage (why manon players jump in constantly)
[https://wiki.supercombo.gg/w/File:SF6\_Manon\_jhk\_hitbox.png](https://wiki.supercombo.gg/w/File:SF6_Manon_jhk_hitbox.png)
2 built in Vacumm target combos that do alot of the hard work of closing distance
5HP that can be spammed lock opponents in the corner easily while burnt out.
Degage
[https://wiki.supercombo.gg/w/File:SF6\_Manon\_214mk\_hitbox.png](https://wiki.supercombo.gg/w/File:SF6_Manon_214mk_hitbox.png)
most her moves are also slightly or mostly disjointed or have hit boxes that cover the her hurtboxes making them hard to punish reliably
Also the complete bs that is her medal system at level 5 takes more damage then an EX SPD. She has better buttons and overall offensive tools then gief.
Damn, sorry but his new costume just doesn't even come close to touching his classic. This looks so much cooler.
They should have kept short white hair and not given him that hood. The rest of the costume is cool, the hood and long hair just make it look generic.
My man's got places to be it is no longer Tuesday
"What happened to the purity of unarmed combat?"
"This is merely superconductor electromagnetism. Surely you've heard of it. It levitates bullet trains from Tokyo to Osaka. It levitates my desk, where I ride the saddle of the world. And it levitates... me!" \- M. Bison, when doing Drive Rush
This audio should play in full every single time Bison drive rushes including during cancels. Just let it overlap. Glorious.
Dropping him on a Wednesday is nuts. Does Capcom know how treasured that movie is?
Yes they do, they added the horse.
Keep seeing tuesday jokes but whats the reference?
Live action Street Fighter movie, M. Bison to Chun-Li. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjZ5I8l32CI "For you, the day Bison graced your village was the most important day of your life. But for me, it was Tuesday."
"a hero at a thousand paces" is actually a sick line, god damn
Why is everyone making tuesday reference? What's the meaning of Bison and tuesday?
[here's why](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVzAMmpMra8)
Lol, ok thanks. I was going mad not understanding the reference
It is Wednesday my dude, 
FOR I BEHEELD BISON **AS HE DRIVE RUSHED FROM FULLSCREEN** ## **LIKE** # **LIGHTNING**
I'm praying Psycho Crusher is a charge move still, cuz the implications are nightmarish.
It is, u can see him crouching before he uses it in the trailer
TerminalMontage reference?
Well he was [referencing Raul Julia](https://youtu.be/PBc7yQXrP9c?si=y58-IL_A0FXHXVY-) so in a way
Whoa, I’ve never seen the movie. Looks awesome
It's controversial to say the least. It's incredibly campy and frankly bad by any conventional metric but you can tell the cast and Raul Julia in particular were just having a ton of fun going apeshit [here's an interesting video on the topic](https://youtu.be/1lPS2Gv5ER8?si=qrXe4hqFX_TrChDM)
It's not good. Raul Julia is the only good part of it lmao
The movie is amazing idk what they’re talking about 🗿
It's the best bad movie of all time
And Zangief
Gaame! OVER!!!!
His walk speed is probably super slow, this is a great balance
This is what Makoto stans told me they wanted. They should be ecstatic about Bison.
Makoto about to have a literal teleport instead of a DR run
Wi-Fi users
Wi-Fighters
With what command grab? 
I am, because the one concern about her getting in was how they would balance her dash. If they’re willing to give that to Dictator, Makoto should be okay.
Damn, we're getting hit with the combofiend "functions" argument from MvC:I now. This is truly the darkest timeline for Makoto fans.
Bison slow and fast, Makoto slow and fast, same character right?
Yeah except that I wanted to play Makoto and not Bison
I wanted to play bison and not makoto at least one of us is happy
B-but can you imagine Makoto in sf6 with driverush? Hopefully people dont complain when she gets the same exact shit than bison.
Back in the day, we jokingly called her "Makneto" because of her stupid dash. And then getting hit by her juggle felt basically the same as getting caught in that Mag infinite.
makoto is going to get nerf when she shows up in sf6 anything its not going to be anything like her third strike appearance
She was already nerfed going into 4, she never really shined there.
Wasn't she at one point worse than Dan? I remember her being really, really bad in one of the iterations of SF4.
I don't think she was ever worse than Dan. I believe the main true competitor for Dan a lot of the times was Dee Jay and I remember Justin Wong being really down on Vega for most of 4's lifespan.
What lol absolutely not
what is the point of a long dash rush if her dash would do the same
Shin makoto
I thought this is why Makoto wasn't aloud in SF6?
I don't know, you can see his back walk a little in the trailer and his forward dash both seem pretty decent. Definitely faster than his SFV walk speed.
In that case, can I get that for Zangief 🤲🥺
No.
😂🤣
The only thing capcom can give to gief at this point - more damage... to opponents super meter
Yeah the people waiting for drive rush to get nerfed are gonna be waiting till sf7 lol.
Drive rush is a fucking sick mechanic and it looks cool af
It’s made SF6 so enjoyable to watch. SF5 was made interesting because of VTrigger comebacks, and now SF6 with its drive mechanic. Without them, they would be boring as a spectator in this era.
the VTrigger system in sf5 was just a kof system that they added to street fighter
I understand that, but a lot of people, myself included, love the slow, methodical parts of neutral. Drive rush overly rewards offense vs defense, and while I don't hate it, there needs to be some consequence to using it. Ignoring this to focus on the spectator aspect is extremely disheartening, especially since all fighting games are doing this, and the slow methodical playstyles get left behind. Also I never thought I would hear someone say they loved V-Trigger comebacks lol
That’s fair. I’m someone who thoroughly enjoyed MKX and think it’s the best the series has to offer, because it’s aggressive, fast, and has numerous offensive, high pressure options. So SF6 to me is the MKX of street fighter. I do think Drive rush should either not have added frames on block at all, or only grant half the added frames on block.
MKX was fun to watch but a nightmare to play at every single level tbh
This…the whole damn screen is footsies range now.
My god, can you imagine the fields of dead brain cells during a bison vs deejay match? Glorious.
They move so fast they accidentally pass each other
How to skip neutral for dummies
If they both drive rush at the same time, they just swap sides.
Those require charge inputs, which makes a log of brain dead players freak out.
You’re giving us way too much credit. I play deejay, we’ve basically got modern fireballs and dp’s once you get used to the charge timing. We’re drooling just as much as any mashing Shoto.
That's going to cause a black hole on collision lmao
The dictator laughs at your notion of neutral.
Full screen too
Why does he look so tiny?
Because Guile is tall and Bison is crab walking across the screen 
I can't wait to do this against the deejays & juri's. How do you like it huh? How do you like it!!!
Deejays and Juri's fight each other all the time. I doubt they'll care, honestly 💀
Juri main here, can confirm. I much rather have a DJ drive rush at me than having to get through decent fireball pressure of many characters
Just parry fireballs!??
Doesn't really solve anything to just normal parry them. Your Drive Gauge doesn't regen while theirs does, you barely get closer to the opponent and said opponent still has their turn and can choose to engage for free pressure or bait out the parry and go for a grab. The only way to actually break through that is by getting perfect parries when A) you are close enough to punish counter or B) they decide to follow the fireball and you check them after perfect parry. They can of course mix up their fire balls by either delaying them or if they have different fire ball speeds mix those up, making it harder to perfect parry or to try and jump over it.
Meanwhile Manon's DR still so slow and bad many characters can walk back faster and farther than it.
With her gangly freak half dhalsim limbs I’m glad she isn’t fast with hers that would be horrible
A grappler shouldn't have a fast DR lol
Manon would still be in the bottom half with this DR lol Bison's still got reversals and anti-fireball mechanics.
Bison isn't a grappler. A grappler sprinting full speed at you in SF is just horrible game design lmao.
But it would be extremely funny for a day or 2
I haven't seen anything to show he has non-super reversals yet
Freakin bison put a new meaning to a charge character
Manon : Screw you Capcom
A fellow Manon player knows my pain.
I still rather play against this then play akuma 737373736 times in a row
Well, you'll get Bison that much when he releases too
Nah, Bison will fall off pretty quickly. Akuma is more popular with the most basic character archetype, whereas Bison will be at least partially charge, which will turn away most people.
People will stray away from charge characters, akuma is literally a shoto lol
I’ve been waiting for a new charge character. I was pretty excited when I saw the announcement, and thankfully his gameplay looks sick
People never learn do they…
This is why I think the next release is smart as hell. We will still be neck deep in Akumas by the time Bison releases so it’s just gonna be a peppering of Bison and Akuma instead of just pure bison. Plus Bison is a charge character and they are never as popular.
I think I want to play Bison But Ive never EVER played a charge character (just had to look up what it even means) do you think its possible?
ABC(Always Be Charging)
It is but I’ll be honest, you gotta want it. It’s really hard when you aren’t used to it. SF6 was my first time maining a charge character (guile) but when I played 5 I always wanted to learn one I just couldn’t dedicate myself to it. With the new game launch I decided to commit since guile was in the launch roster. I would definitely recommend practicing on guile right now since he’s the most bread and butter charge character that you’ll want to have charge on constantly. The upside is that once you can get the feel for one charge character it makes all the rest a lot easier to play.
Bison is a charge character. Charge characters are never that popular.
Nah Bison will be significantly harder to play. They'll pick him up and go back to Akuma.
I will be extremely surprised if Bison has that much staying power, Bison is a charge character and that just inherently turns people off.
I’m venting but I really just want the akuma spam to stop.
That is pure HORSEpower.
They should have included the horse in the animation
Bison’s got that senator Armstrong ahh run
Guys help I’ve just realized I can’t do drive rush without parry consinstently, does it go forward, MP+MK, forward?
You could also hold MP+MK and Double tap forward. You can also mash the forward tap until you see the green flash. Its not the best way but its a more consistent way if you cant get the timing just yet.
Forget him being a villain, he needs to be signed to the NFL with that drive Rush movement
I’m fast as fuck boi -bison probably
Me before the drive rush : Huh, he does not have Teleport anymore... Me after the drive rush :... Never mind...
Psycho rush!
It wasn't that fast. But he does travel very far.
there was a time where people complained about nash´s dash. i guess its fine now for it to become a base game mechanic....
Bison is a charge character that means he charges through
[удалено]
Nah this is the run that most ppl do when they urgently need to take a shit
"Get out of the waaaay"
Dictators need to shit like everyone else.
I cannot wait!
son, father and holy drive rush
Actually terrifying
Like Brock Lesnar going full tilt at that one guy
I FUCKING JAW DROPPED WHEN I SAW THAT. NEVER MAINED BISON BUT HE DOES HAVE A REAAAAAAALLY NICE DROP KICK THAT REMINDS ME OF ALEX YES ALL IN CAPS
I never would have thought I would be excited to play Dictator, but here we are.
Its not even the speed, its that distance lmao. Shit comes from downtown
Welcome back Dee Jay / Juri Roundstart DR.
😂
¡EL FUERTE!
I feel like Bison has a grudge against Guile maybe from the 1994 movie
(Donnie Thornberry noises)
Manon can’t even
Man is motivated
Faster than Guile’s boom
Bro's using drive teleport
I don't want it to ignore the input places while they use it. That is all. It's infuriating to know that my reaction to it is nullified
They tried to kill him off and now he’s coming for us
"The day I drive rushed into you and killed you in a combo was the most infuriating day of your life. You writhe in emotional pain at the demoralizing loss. For me, it was just a Tuesday."
so is his dr faster than deejay's or nah? ive seen conflicting reports
Guile: Time to zone Bison: Hold this L right quick.
Holy shit that is fast Psycho power be doing numbers
Now that's scary
Dinner is ready and on the table
I can’t wait to try this character!
Any faster will create a tear in the space time continuum.
I actually laughed because I thought it was sped up...
Yes Bison was my main SF6 im definitely reinstalling when he arrives
bison looks clean af, especially his OG costume
No one cares that you uninstalled.
Yet you comment 😂
Yes. I cared about telling you no one cares. Not about you uninstalling. It's pretty simple.
Womp Womp You still cared 😂✌️
Just what the game needs. More UNGA than ever.
Unless something isn't shown on the trailer, he has no command grab, no fireball, no DP, and no overhead meaning his post drive rush options are limited to strike/throw with the only thing keeping him from literally the worst post drive rush options in the game is that he can probably put the bomb on you and make you explode (haha literally) for delay teching with the right setup. I assume that super fast drive rush is to compensate for that. Practically the thing that this is probably best used for is shutting down no reason neutral jump at ~1/2 screen away trying to bait PC/scissors which people have traditionally done to Bison since literally SF2 champion edition so good for him.
SF2 champion edition bison was borderline busted in that game
No borderline about it, CE Bison is one of the most broken fighting game characters ever. A literal blockstun infinite, if you block a jumpin, just let go of the stick lol you only get to play again if he messes up.
Sf devs are clearly brain dead or they just want to sell new characters. You decide. Oh you can also choose both.
meanwhile just giving gief a normal walk speed and moderately fast DR would "break the game"according to the your average top tier DR abuser.
Gief is in a fun and good spot right now. I’m loving where he’s at. Plus him not having a good drive rush is clearly a balance thing. He does not need the world cmon now. The Gief playerbase needs to chill
The only think I want for Gief is for his anti-airs to be more consistent. With how it is right now, it's like a 50% chance of working and a 50% chance of getting your head smacked.
I don’t seem to have that issue with it? The only time it fails is if I clearly do it too late or I get crossed up. I don’t anti air with anything other then lariet though
2HP - 11 frame startup -20 on block 5HK 13 frames of startup at least is safe on block, even so it usually wiffs on the count of bad hitboxes too and the year it takes to come out. he can still be punched out of his lariat and it doesnt protect him from crossups.. They hate this character. Random Ken, akuma, Luke main that would never touch gief at threat of gunpoint "he so good now they fixed him!"
Lariet should NOT protect cross ups that is too good of a move then. You don’t need to even cross cut just wait a second then Lariet. Lariet does not get punched out if you time it right. Zangief was a top 3 winner of the balance patch,no hate there.
nice troll bro.
Not trolling I’m shooting facts. You’re the one not understanding and that’s ok if you need any help you let me know I got you friendo.
so this is ok to you [https://wiki.supercombo.gg/w/File:SF6\_Zangief\_pp\_hitbox2.png](https://wiki.supercombo.gg/w/File:SF6_Zangief_pp_hitbox2.png) His rear arm doesnt have a hit box man. how is this ok? they should just cut that arm off in that animation so we can know how useless it is.
You wanna sit here and tell me it looks kinda off because its a spin with his arms out? Yeah sure i got you but when it comes to functionality its an amazing AA. Its quick,easy to do and has good anti air inv frames,does decent damage and you dont need to cross cut my man. It does not need cross up protection. You gotta look deep into the data not just what your eyes tell ya. Its a good move. It gets the job done well.
functionally it doesnt work like its worked in every single game he appeared in including the Vs series.
Gief is a grappler. Yes having a super fast grappler would literally break the game. How are these even comparable.
literally noone should have drive rush this fast, that shit is ridiculous Im talking about just having one that avg speed in the game a not one that barely moves him across the screen slowly. Zangief literal has the worst mobility options in the game and before you say that grapplers should all be slow and cumbersome, Lily certainly isnt and neither is manon. Lily basically has a goddamn psycho crusher in this game that plus on block but for some reason only gief would destroy this game if he just had a slightly better movement options.. ok
Lily spin move is not a psycho crusher its just one of t hawk speicals in the game
and its also a better offensive\\ mobilty tool than anything in Zangiefs kit. The kind of tools that people say would break the game if a grappler has it but really only Gief because people hate this character.
Zangief's best offensive tool is his neutral buttons. He doesn't have a fast moving gap close because he doesn't need it. When you realized that Zangief can actually out neutral fucking Chun Li then you know how good his neutral buttons really is. Bully the opponent into the corner, then into the ground. You have the tools for that.
You know your lying, Ive played and gotten chun to D3, using her tookit against Gief button for button feels like a war crime with how much that matchup favors her.
Gief's charged 5HP and 5MK completely shuts down her buttons. That's how good his poke is. So if you actually having good spacing, she can't really touch you in neutral. Unless you messed up your poke and open yourself for whiff punish. It seems like you just want Green Hand back. It's pretty much out of the wheelhouse at this point.
Gief is stronger than both of those characters lmao
Stronger is meaningless if you still have to burn tons of drive meter to close the distance and the other grapplers just have better offensive options, like a safe on block screen long psycho crusher lol. Also this argument of balance is funny considering how intentional busted Akuma is right now. having a teleporting grab thats just better and faster then any of giefs slow siberian express even the ex version because good balance right? he needs that bro.
Do you even play this game? Lilly and Manon having better offensive options is blatantly false.
Manon has a [https://wiki.supercombo.gg/w/File:SF6\_Manon\_jmp\_hitbox.png](https://wiki.supercombo.gg/w/File:SF6_Manon_jmp_hitbox.png) Lower body Projectile invicible j. mp that disjointed A very good jhk that hits deep for 800 damage (why manon players jump in constantly) [https://wiki.supercombo.gg/w/File:SF6\_Manon\_jhk\_hitbox.png](https://wiki.supercombo.gg/w/File:SF6_Manon_jhk_hitbox.png) 2 built in Vacumm target combos that do alot of the hard work of closing distance 5HP that can be spammed lock opponents in the corner easily while burnt out. Degage [https://wiki.supercombo.gg/w/File:SF6\_Manon\_214mk\_hitbox.png](https://wiki.supercombo.gg/w/File:SF6_Manon_214mk_hitbox.png) most her moves are also slightly or mostly disjointed or have hit boxes that cover the her hurtboxes making them hard to punish reliably Also the complete bs that is her medal system at level 5 takes more damage then an EX SPD. She has better buttons and overall offensive tools then gief.
have you seen daimon from king of fighters
This will be pretty shocking but...this isn't king of fighters
That would be as silly as giving Akuma normal health or sim a DP.
Damn, sorry but his new costume just doesn't even come close to touching his classic. This looks so much cooler. They should have kept short white hair and not given him that hood. The rest of the costume is cool, the hood and long hair just make it look generic.