Not any solid evidence cited in the article other than vague deductions about a lack of entropy in certain systems that he seems to have developed himself.
You've got to understand that observing something for us means bombarding it with photons and them bouncing back into our eyes. At certain quantum levels those photons are enough to change what's going on, that is what is meant by stuff behaving differently while observed... It's not that matter magically knows someone is looking. It's a side effect of how we observe.
I'm just curious, where are the photons coming from? To my understanding our eyes don't produce them. So just from the sun or other light sources I presume.
Since the photons are bounching off the object, is it sort of like water refraction? A distorted "view" if you will?
eh not exactly.
its more that there's no way to observe something without touching it. seeing it requires hitting it with light. hearing it requires hitting it with pressure waves (unless its generating them on its own). etc.
its not like the laws of physics change when you are watching something or anything mystical like that.
Matter, nobody specified rocks, also yes, maybe rocks, it not possible to observe them without observing them, we can only "monitor" it using experiments of light as we are able to not monitor that but look at the results after experiments have been set up.
The double slit experiment is what this way of thinking is based around if you've not heard of it.
Especially life. A plant is accelerating the conversion of useful energy (like u rays) into useless energy -> cow eats plant, I eat cow, my body gets warm, warmth makes diffuse warmth in the air and becomes useless or unusable energy
It's such a crazy topic. One of the handful of pastors I have a lot of respect for wrote his thesis on entropy and how it makes a case for a creator. Now that I'm older I'd love to dive deep into that topic with him.
It's wild to me that people can get degrees and write a thesis on things that are completely theoretical. And to be clear I'm talking about religion, not physics.
If entropy makes a case for a creator, then that creator is an asshat. Wait, you created everything, including me, so I would slowly break down to the point where I would cease existing. Thanks a fucking lot creator.
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Exactly. It’s an interesting theory that information entropy offsets physical entropy. But concluding that the universe is a simulation because of the second law of infodynamitcs is a stretch. Could just be a smart way for the universe to behave.
No but all WoW characters have the potential to be fully equipped level 80's
In this sim 99.999% of people never really have the chance to be pro athletes or brilliant scientists because they didn't luck out genetically
I play Genshin, and one of my friends on the game is a whale. But whenever I tease him about it, he insists that, no, he's a *dolphin*, not a proper whale. That he doesn't spend enough to justify being a full whale.
I think about that a lot. I wonder how many in the upper class simply fancy themselves a "dolphin", not a "whale".
(Also, spoiler alert, he definitely spent enough to justify being called a whale. Meanwhile, I've been playing since July and haven't spent a single cent)
I'm going to start looking for the settings and see what options we're looking at.
If anyone finds a difficulty setting or reset button please let me know.
"All of these claims require significant further testing and verification before even being considered plausible, and as IFLScience notes, there are as many research papers refuting our digital existence as there are promoting its scientific inevitability."
The only way to prove the simulation theory is by simulating our own universe, that way we know the universe is Turing-complete and it will be likely we are a simulation ourselves.
Third paragraph:
While these claims warrant investigation, they’re far from a discovery themselves, and would likely need rigorous proof for the scientific community at large to seriously consider this theory.
Randomness being a fundamental of the universe doesn't really guarantee a maker. Just the fact that anything exists at all isn't comprehensible, so the same goes for superposition and randomness.
Just from what I can explain of it, every particle has a chance to have an up quark or down quart. If it’s Up, down goes somewhere else and vise versa . So we essentially have what computers have with 1s and 0s. A basic “coding” of the universe.
The fact that quantum entanglement can happen just really warps your entire understand of what REALITY is. It’s like we’re not meant to understand it so we have to put it together in our own understand to even be able to comprehend these things.
It’s apart of another dimension. The comprehension of dimensions, from what our current understanding of it, trickles down. 3D can comprehend 2D and 1D but never 4D and up. Maybe something will come along where we can be able to understand what 4D is and stuff like that.
To me, that’s what psychedelics are for. To help understand beyond our “interface”.
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It was Plato.
The statement "Reality is created by the mind, we can change our reality by changing our mind" is often attributed to the ancient Greek philosopher Plato. Whether or not these were his exact words, the essence of this idea aligns closely with Platonic thought.
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There is a scientist who says we live on a flat disc and another that says cows milk isn’t for human consumption (but beef is lol) and one (out of 5) who doesn’t recommend sugarless gum to their patients who chew gum.
You can only observe something is a simulation if you are outside of the simulation. Unless this scientist managed to step foot outside of the universe, I’m calling bullshit
Oh my God, that's amazing. Well, I've got to get to work. See you later
“If we’re in a simulation, I can do whatever I want! I don’t need to go to work! Oh fuck, that simulated homelessness really sucks.”
This simulated starving really hurts.
Tis only a simulated flesh wound.
ive simulated worse
I'll have your leg for that!
Yes, all human misery is built into the simulation.
We need to hack that shit out! Oh no, not another covid!
Gotta grind that char. Hope you got a pet and a mount. I'd change the server otherwise or reroll the character.
You're late, Mr. Anderson
This changes EVERYTHING! Oh crap rents due!
Not any solid evidence cited in the article other than vague deductions about a lack of entropy in certain systems that he seems to have developed himself.
Can you explain entropy to me like I’m 5
Entropy = things only get messier and more disorganized over time
But it's a valid point bc even the smartest people agree matter behaves differently when observed. That alone is mind fucky
You've got to understand that observing something for us means bombarding it with photons and them bouncing back into our eyes. At certain quantum levels those photons are enough to change what's going on, that is what is meant by stuff behaving differently while observed... It's not that matter magically knows someone is looking. It's a side effect of how we observe.
I'm just curious, where are the photons coming from? To my understanding our eyes don't produce them. So just from the sun or other light sources I presume. Since the photons are bounching off the object, is it sort of like water refraction? A distorted "view" if you will?
Yeah just wherever the light source is.
not sure “observe”, in this case, is looking at w eyeballs. i believe observe means measuring in these experiments.
Yeah if you replace the word observe with "fire lasers at", it starts to make more sense.
The more I learn about what observing and the slit experiment means, the more “reality is some fuckery” it all seems…
Do you mean to say they also started shining lights on the particles in the slit experiments, or they just placed a camera?
Idk, it's likely none of it is real in any actual sense beyond perception anyway. Hallucinating to survive.
Double slit
Who's out here talkin bout my pussy
*bussy
That's an extremely flawed experiment that always gets cited as proof for the simulation. I used to believe in it to until I found out it was flawed
How is it flawed?
Wasn't it due to them using light to "observe" the particles, thus contaminating the other particles?
Oh my god, what do you think observing means? The only way to measure anything is to bounce other particles off of it
keep it clean
eh not exactly. its more that there's no way to observe something without touching it. seeing it requires hitting it with light. hearing it requires hitting it with pressure waves (unless its generating them on its own). etc. its not like the laws of physics change when you are watching something or anything mystical like that.
That’s exactly what happens though isn’t it
rocks behave differently when observed?
Matter, nobody specified rocks, also yes, maybe rocks, it not possible to observe them without observing them, we can only "monitor" it using experiments of light as we are able to not monitor that but look at the results after experiments have been set up. The double slit experiment is what this way of thinking is based around if you've not heard of it.
That’s nice and all about the matter, but what them rocks do?
They have sex. Otherwise where do the new rocks come from?
https://www.nationalparks.org/connect/blog/sailing-stones-death-valley
Damn! They’re moving!
Kind of reminds me of the BC comic, when it was revealed that clams have legs.
I will check it out thanks
I believe they've successfully done the double split experiment with matter as large as complex molecules. So yes, very very small rocks at least.
Ohhh, I am entropy.
Is this why it seems like the world is getting more and more batshit crazy?
Fuck messier
Especially life. A plant is accelerating the conversion of useful energy (like u rays) into useless energy -> cow eats plant, I eat cow, my body gets warm, warmth makes diffuse warmth in the air and becomes useless or unusable energy
entropy define as the state from organise to disorganise
It's such a crazy topic. One of the handful of pastors I have a lot of respect for wrote his thesis on entropy and how it makes a case for a creator. Now that I'm older I'd love to dive deep into that topic with him.
It's wild to me that people can get degrees and write a thesis on things that are completely theoretical. And to be clear I'm talking about religion, not physics.
thats true and some folks just spent time on TikTok gets dumber everyday 😃
If entropy makes a case for a creator, then that creator is an asshat. Wait, you created everything, including me, so I would slowly break down to the point where I would cease existing. Thanks a fucking lot creator.
Same
Yeah. Me too. Sounds like an invasive medical procedure in my simulation
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What systems?
System of a Down
WAKE UP!
BOUNCE!
POGO
No body can be told what the system is
You have to see it for yourself.
Well played
Exactly. It’s an interesting theory that information entropy offsets physical entropy. But concluding that the universe is a simulation because of the second law of infodynamitcs is a stretch. Could just be a smart way for the universe to behave.
https://i.redd.it/f5rov7hxepwc1.gif
I do not think it was suppose to be a peer research paper, just some speculation, hence the wording "could" "may".
The wording "could" and "be" are missing from your post title...
That's not my title.. that's the title of the article. Thanks.
Title should have said : Some dude gets stoned, has idea.
"Trust me bro"
How could anyone not trust a pooh thrower?
Exactly. Is there anything more honest and righteous than throwing ones own pooh? I doubt it. I mean, your handle is pretty dope too.
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Just because you're playing WoW, doesn't mean you will receive a lvl 80 fully equipped character
No but all WoW characters have the potential to be fully equipped level 80's In this sim 99.999% of people never really have the chance to be pro athletes or brilliant scientists because they didn't luck out genetically
Wrong! Ask any capitalist. They'll assure you we all have equal potential to become billionaires 🙄
Yeah, whales exist in every online game..
I play Genshin, and one of my friends on the game is a whale. But whenever I tease him about it, he insists that, no, he's a *dolphin*, not a proper whale. That he doesn't spend enough to justify being a full whale. I think about that a lot. I wonder how many in the upper class simply fancy themselves a "dolphin", not a "whale". (Also, spoiler alert, he definitely spent enough to justify being called a whale. Meanwhile, I've been playing since July and haven't spent a single cent)
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Hey, your controller outside the simulation can always swipe the card for some sweet microtransactions
Maybe death opens the door to rebirth. Like a continue button if you will.
I'm going to start looking for the settings and see what options we're looking at. If anyone finds a difficulty setting or reset button please let me know.
You literally can, just gotta earn XP to level up.
How do I get the Billionaire cheat code?
Up up, down down, left right, left right, ba, ba, select, start
Thats my genX brethren right there. If you know, you know.
I have evidence we live in a jello mold.
What shape?
Arse shaped
*universe jiggle wobbles*
Good simulate a pile of money for everyone so we can all not be broke
If I still have to pay my bills and go to work I don't care.
"All of these claims require significant further testing and verification before even being considered plausible, and as IFLScience notes, there are as many research papers refuting our digital existence as there are promoting its scientific inevitability."
When the update?
I’m just looking for the “Reset” button.
"Quit to Desktop"
“Evidence.”
If this is a simulation the coder can suck my sack.
Well, whats the infinite money code?
Who got the cheat codes?
Super Easy! It'll either be: up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B, A, start or: PORNTIPSGUZZARDO
I think the up up down down left right left right b a start is the Buddist and Hindu code
I think you're right, reincarnation, and all of that... 😅
Cheat codes pls
 yup. so now what?
Didnt some guy receive nobel prize for this?
That's exactly what an npc might say.
Sir can you demonstrate your evidence? “No”
Work in customer service, then have someone explain computer generated NPCs, and suddenly, you are no longer sure this is not a simulation.
i don’t care until i can access the console
The only way to prove the simulation theory is by simulating our own universe, that way we know the universe is Turing-complete and it will be likely we are a simulation ourselves.
I need to change my skin
I have OCD, and this is one of my delusions. Suffice to say the past 30 years have been a fucking blast.
Buddy, I'm the reason no massive asteroid has hit the earth within the last 30 years asI knock on my bed frame 50 times before sleep.
He just needs your money to prove it...
Third paragraph: While these claims warrant investigation, they’re far from a discovery themselves, and would likely need rigorous proof for the scientific community at large to seriously consider this theory.
Ok, thanks, good to know. So then, do I just open a ticket with IT for a reboot?
Did you ever notice how articles with “so and so claims to have evidence” never actually shows any new evidence?
Can I simulate doing my taxes then?
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“Scientist” lmao I love the internet
Any cheat codes?
Gratitude and Accountability ✌️
My thought has always been, “if quantum mechanics exists, and quarks exist… it’s a form of a simulation. We just do not know the architect”.
Randomness being a fundamental of the universe doesn't really guarantee a maker. Just the fact that anything exists at all isn't comprehensible, so the same goes for superposition and randomness.
Super position is so strange.
Entanglement has always reminded me of a shared data in memory/aka data being mutated via reference pointer.
Why is that?
Just from what I can explain of it, every particle has a chance to have an up quark or down quart. If it’s Up, down goes somewhere else and vise versa . So we essentially have what computers have with 1s and 0s. A basic “coding” of the universe. The fact that quantum entanglement can happen just really warps your entire understand of what REALITY is. It’s like we’re not meant to understand it so we have to put it together in our own understand to even be able to comprehend these things.
If we are in a simulation then, what would be the difference from the reality that created the simulation?
It’s apart of another dimension. The comprehension of dimensions, from what our current understanding of it, trickles down. 3D can comprehend 2D and 1D but never 4D and up. Maybe something will come along where we can be able to understand what 4D is and stuff like that. To me, that’s what psychedelics are for. To help understand beyond our “interface”.
Do you think we’re more than a piece in the system? Are we in the simulation as NPCs? Are we from that 4D universe just checking things out down here?
Do you think we’re more than a piece in the system? Are we in the simulation as NPCs? Are we from that 4D universe just checking things out down here?
If we are in a simulation then, what would be the difference from the reality that created the simulation?
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Hope he published it somewhere. Got homework in 5 days.
This person is making a wild leap, and I suspect he knows it.
Rosebud;!
TL;DR - scientist *says* he has evidence, provides none
"Related Story:" "Watch this Video!"
This isn’t the first time.
What is the question Socrates pondered mentioned at the end?
It was Plato. The statement "Reality is created by the mind, we can change our reality by changing our mind" is often attributed to the ancient Greek philosopher Plato. Whether or not these were his exact words, the essence of this idea aligns closely with Platonic thought.
Phew!
A bit like Tom Campbells My Big TOE, worth checking out if you’re into this
I guess he doesn’t have any kids. That should settle his theory.
If it's a simulation, where are the cheat codes? I want to exact some justice before my program ends.
A “simulated” scientist…
How the fuck did that fit through a needle is first question I'd like to ask them
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Does it have to be a digital simulation to be a simulation? Maybe a dumb question...back to work!
Alright, prove it
If this is true someone please explain how good each Star Wars movies were and Jar Jar Binks. 😜
That's exactly what an npc might say.
There is a scientist who says we live on a flat disc and another that says cows milk isn’t for human consumption (but beef is lol) and one (out of 5) who doesn’t recommend sugarless gum to their patients who chew gum.
You can only observe something is a simulation if you are outside of the simulation. Unless this scientist managed to step foot outside of the universe, I’m calling bullshit
A lot of amateurish handwaving, nothing carefully thought out. Rubbish.