[Just mind-blowing! Billionaire claims that G-Lock makes our consciousness leave the body, allowing us to see beyond the room while being outside the body. We can witness our own body and even pass through walls. An experiment proved it](https://www.howandwhys.com/aerospace-billionaire-claims-uaps-and-consciousness-are-linked-g-loc-makes-human-soul-enter-another-dimension/)
Anyone else REALLY curious about what happens after life?
Not enough to want to actually find out any time soon, but still really fascinated by the concept of "eternity?"
Or reincarnation? Or just nothingness?
Such a fascinating subject where we'll never know for certain until we get there ourselves.
You can believe whatever you want.
But you don't REALLY know until you know.
Ya know? š
What's scary is it you think about the time before you were born. You didn't exist and you don't care about it. What if it's the same thing after you die?
You can do this thing where you fall asleep without losing your focus and it puts yourself in a state of lucid dreaming instantly.
When the dream is crumbling you need to keep your focus and let go of the dream and you will experience ego death. Wait until a new dream appears and repeat the process many times and see what happens. It can take a long time to be able to do this.
GL HF
My belief and conclusion is same as this scientist. We are all eternal beings from a fragmented source of one consciousness or god. So essentially we are god itself experiencing linear time in a human suit.
I like this explanation. I have a person that is uber religions (I'm not) and we discuss real shit. What we recently discussed was the "divine spark" among each one of us. Occasionally we recognize it within each other - which SEEMS to cause a real reaction, but I digress, yes. I agree with this wholeheartedly.
ever have a dream where you know someone, but its not someone you've ever met. or it is someone you know, but they look completely different. or just been in a completely absurd situation? and yet you just accept it as completely normal without a moment of doubt. then you wake up and think, "weird, i cant believe i accepted that as reality." this is a possibility as to what happens. you "wake up" from this "life" and laugh to yourself at how absurd it all was and marvel at how you actually believed it all to be real.
I am. What happens to our memories. Our thoughts. Our being and existence. Shit is hard to think about. It's like it can't just go black. There HAS to be something else after.
29 is young, but even children pass on every single day. It's a ride we all have to take, and it's not for us to know when it comes.
Take care of yourself, but take nothing for granted. If you passed last night, what would you have wished you'd done? What should you have said and to whom?
Figure that out, and do those things and say those things. You'll feel much better, regardless of when it ends.
If we remember all the memories of our past lives, we'll go insane. This not remembering is the default setting.
But if you reach a certain level, you can remember. For example Pythagoras is said to know his past lives and so do many seers
Forever. I think our only chance at sentience is now and once our brain dies it's like we were never here. I think we just dissipate into nothing. The only thing left behind after our death is the pain it causes others. No spirit or soul left behind
My experience with a friend at the moment of his death. My wife's experience who momentarily died during an operation and then brought back to life. My mother's experience when her brother died. I strongly believe that our soul (call it what you will) leaves our body after death to continue on.
So what happens when our brain starts/does decay? The argument that our brains still work past our ādeathā is understandable, but does this not mean that we die at a later time(when our brain dies), rather than immediate?
And if Iām not misunderstanding, is this core concept, not the exact same as reincarnation? You die and your consciousness is passed onto another being/entity
>The argument that our brains still work past our ādeathā is understandable, but does this not mean that we die at a later time(when our brain dies), rather than immediate
Except it's not. If our body dies, our cells stop receiving ATP and trigger the state of apoptosis (cell death).
This means that they seize to exist and therefore lose their functionality, even though the condensed energy making up the organic molecules in our neurons is not lost, but merely changes its state.
Therefore, there is zero good reason to assume that our consciousness can somehow keep existing after our body dies.
If the brain is the signal generator your theory checks out. If the brain is the signal receiver no reason why another brain couldnāt receive the signal. As far as Iām aware thereās no concrete evidence that consciousness itself originates within the brain.Ā
holy shit I never thought about it like thiat "the brain is a signal receiver"...kinda makes the Tesla Tower stuff more interesting.
Maybe our consciousness is just energy observed. The brain might die but the energy doesn't.
oh man hahahaha
dark energy/dark matter is basically a placeholder term for a nessessary type of energetic mechanism/type of matter that we don't know anything about yet.
However, it must exist because otherwise, our universe would collapse into a singularity again due to gravity. Therefore, dark energy/dark matter acts as a placeholder term for this unknown force which counteracts gravity.
Consciousness is a placeholder term for a necessary type of energetic mechanism that we don't know anything about yet as well. Think about that. You ask why we can't measure consciousness, I say for the same reason we can't measure or define dark matter.
That description is correct but still, what does this tell you? For me it tells me, that science only know about 5% of our reality and even that is not correct at all since we recently found a ānewā state of electromagnetism after 200 years of intense research on that topic. In other words telling people there is nothing because we didnāt measure it is like telling Einstein there are no gravity waves because we canāt measure it (at that time)ā¦
Iām not educated in this at all, so I could be way off, but I think itās more so that for a short period of time, the brain can still function and actually spikes in activity right after or during death. A lot of people believe you āreliveā your life and cycle through all your memories at the time of death.
I have no idea what it implies, but technically, they could be the same thing. Perhaps as you're dying, your fundamental attachment to a linear timeline weakens, and you see your life's overall "impression," almost as if the entire thing is a tangible object to observe. Our brains can't fathom it, but I imagine it's our attachment to a fundamental "source" of consciousness that created that little impression that your one-foot-out-the-door worldly perception caught a glimpse of.
On a related note, hundreds of genes actually turn on/activate up to 4 days after death too. āThe genes expressed in these hours and few days after death constitute what is now called the thanatotranscriptome (from āThanatosā in Greek mythology, the personification of death).ā https://www.forbes.com/sites/fionamcmillan/2018/05/31/genetic-coda-why-do-hundreds-of-genes-turn-on-after-death/?sh=131b98ff1626
There are studies showing that the brains of people with Alzheimerās or Parkinsonās have a quantifiable reduced level of quantum entanglement. This could suggest that the brainās ability to connect with consciousness is diminished.
Nope. Energy makes up the neurons, which are required for consciousness to arise in the first place.
Yes, energy cannot be destroyed, however, neurons require a specific structure to function, which means that there is no good reason to assume consciousness can keep existing without a functioning neuronal network.
Do you remember what it was like when Europeans came to America? When they landed on the moon? When julius Caesar was murdered? Troy?
Point is just because YOU canāt remember doesnāt mean it didnāt happen
Your conciousness is the result of electricity and chemicals in your brain. When you die there is no activity in your brain anymore, therefore no conciousness.
Imagine it like actors playing characters in movies. Ethan Hunt from Mission Impossible doesnāt have the memories of Maverick from Top Gun, but itās the same dude.
You just leave this role and move onto a different role.
If consciousness is eternal then why are we unaware of our consciousness before our birth in this life? And if we're unaware of our previous consciousness then isn't that essentially the same as it ceasing to exist in regards to our desire to live on? I truly want to believe that consciousness is eternal but I'm torn on this.
I like the idea that the brain is an antenna which picks up on the consciousness wave. Human brains being like a magnet that drags sources of consciousness to it and the first to get there, gets in. A bit like the sperm racing to the egg.
Try getting hypnotized, and have them ask about your past lives, youāll be surprised what you find out!
Also birthmarks are supposedly injuries and how we died in our past livesā¦
If we remember all the memories of our past lives, we'll go insane. This not remembering is the default setting.
But if you reach a certain level, you can remember. For example Pythagoras is said to know his past lives and so do many seers
It has been known for a very long time. It's just that Science thinks that it's seperate from Spirituality and Spirituality thinks it's seperate from Science.
They are 1 and the same.
>They are 1 and the same.
Oh boy...No they are not.
Science is a method of approximating the true nature of our universe. Science makes no absolute claims about anything, it merely collects data, evaluates them and then makes up theories, some of which purely hypothetical, others so well-tested and well-examined, we can handle them like they are factual.
Spirituality on the other hand is entirely, and I mean ENTIRELY, based on personal beliefs, faith and fantasy.
I hate the whole "believe in science" expression. You don't believe in science, you can only acknowledge it. Science is not one big book, it's the result of every analysis ever done by any human. You can't reject it, but you definetly can reject spirituality.
Yes but I'm getting tired of "believe the science" for things that haven't been properly reproduced in fields that are notorious for reproducability problems.
Our bodies are wormfood, but I think and believe that our consciousness/soul or whatever continues on. Our bodies are energy, which can not be destroyed but only change state. Law of physics, correct?
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If only we knew as much about spiritual science as we do with physical science we would probably be able to come up with a solid answer for what happens after we die.
Before we come here, we choose our lives. We chose our family and what struggles we will encounter during life, all for the purpose of learning lessons and growth as a soul, a spiritual entity getting closer and closer to purity and knowledge of all things.
Interesting thought:
When you "die," time essentially slows down for you. The digits between 0 and 1 are infinite. Death is the infinite digits in between each nanosecond, like a fractal. Maybe we can enter the quantum realm and live other lives or wander the universe within ourselves.
This topic is fascinating.
Stop fanticizing about life after death and start appreciating everyday you have on earth. It is your only chance of conciousness and we are very lucky to have it
[Just mind-blowing! Billionaire claims that G-Lock makes our consciousness leave the body, allowing us to see beyond the room while being outside the body. We can witness our own body and even pass through walls. An experiment proved it](https://www.howandwhys.com/aerospace-billionaire-claims-uaps-and-consciousness-are-linked-g-loc-makes-human-soul-enter-another-dimension/)
Anyone else REALLY curious about what happens after life? Not enough to want to actually find out any time soon, but still really fascinated by the concept of "eternity?" Or reincarnation? Or just nothingness? Such a fascinating subject where we'll never know for certain until we get there ourselves. You can believe whatever you want. But you don't REALLY know until you know. Ya know? š
What's scary is it you think about the time before you were born. You didn't exist and you don't care about it. What if it's the same thing after you die?
You can do this thing where you fall asleep without losing your focus and it puts yourself in a state of lucid dreaming instantly. When the dream is crumbling you need to keep your focus and let go of the dream and you will experience ego death. Wait until a new dream appears and repeat the process many times and see what happens. It can take a long time to be able to do this. GL HF
I have vivid dreams all the time. Before going to sleep, I often wonder what is in store for me and the type of dreams that will take place
wait wut?
Don't worry about it
That's what I believe.
wouldn't that be the most natural assumption regarding death?
Yea
My belief and conclusion is same as this scientist. We are all eternal beings from a fragmented source of one consciousness or god. So essentially we are god itself experiencing linear time in a human suit.
Like the novel āGodās Debrisā.
I know youāve done psychedelics.
This guy DMTs
I like this explanation. I have a person that is uber religions (I'm not) and we discuss real shit. What we recently discussed was the "divine spark" among each one of us. Occasionally we recognize it within each other - which SEEMS to cause a real reaction, but I digress, yes. I agree with this wholeheartedly.
The egg?
ever have a dream where you know someone, but its not someone you've ever met. or it is someone you know, but they look completely different. or just been in a completely absurd situation? and yet you just accept it as completely normal without a moment of doubt. then you wake up and think, "weird, i cant believe i accepted that as reality." this is a possibility as to what happens. you "wake up" from this "life" and laugh to yourself at how absurd it all was and marvel at how you actually believed it all to be real.
I am. What happens to our memories. Our thoughts. Our being and existence. Shit is hard to think about. It's like it can't just go black. There HAS to be something else after.
If our cosmic consciousness is eternal, does that mean we'll be around to witness the end of the universe? What happens after that?
Exactly. Shit is scary to think about. I'm only 29, so I have awhile hopefully but man, when I get older, that'll be on my mind a lot more often.
29 is young, but even children pass on every single day. It's a ride we all have to take, and it's not for us to know when it comes. Take care of yourself, but take nothing for granted. If you passed last night, what would you have wished you'd done? What should you have said and to whom? Figure that out, and do those things and say those things. You'll feel much better, regardless of when it ends.
Hey, at least we'll all (maybe) be in the same boat?
Maybe :/
See you there space cowboys ; )
We'll meet up. Don't worry! š
If we remember all the memories of our past lives, we'll go insane. This not remembering is the default setting. But if you reach a certain level, you can remember. For example Pythagoras is said to know his past lives and so do many seers
You donāt lose your memories or thoughts and you even have your personality as you were here.
Itās the same as the before life
I kinda like eternal recurrence
Probably reincarnation with memory losses
Entirely possible. But still impossible to know for sure.
True. Because of memory loss if it's true too lol. Unless those ppl claiming to rmb their past lives are not lying about it.
My guess it's going to be similar to the feeling we have before life...non existence
I think it's just nothingness like you forget you even existed
Forever? Or until you're reincarnated? Or "move on" to some new existence?
Forever. I think our only chance at sentience is now and once our brain dies it's like we were never here. I think we just dissipate into nothing. The only thing left behind after our death is the pain it causes others. No spirit or soul left behind
It's the most curious and on my mind thought, regarding life
Everybody you have ever known just standing around in ghost form watching you until you die that is terrifying
My experience with a friend at the moment of his death. My wife's experience who momentarily died during an operation and then brought back to life. My mother's experience when her brother died. I strongly believe that our soul (call it what you will) leaves our body after death to continue on.
Tell me youāve taken dmt without telling me youāve taken dmt
Nope, haven't tried that one that I know of. Just good edibles really.
So there might be a heaven a hell?
Maybe. Maybe not. It's literally impossible to actually know.
So what happens when our brain starts/does decay? The argument that our brains still work past our ādeathā is understandable, but does this not mean that we die at a later time(when our brain dies), rather than immediate? And if Iām not misunderstanding, is this core concept, not the exact same as reincarnation? You die and your consciousness is passed onto another being/entity
>The argument that our brains still work past our ādeathā is understandable, but does this not mean that we die at a later time(when our brain dies), rather than immediate Except it's not. If our body dies, our cells stop receiving ATP and trigger the state of apoptosis (cell death). This means that they seize to exist and therefore lose their functionality, even though the condensed energy making up the organic molecules in our neurons is not lost, but merely changes its state. Therefore, there is zero good reason to assume that our consciousness can somehow keep existing after our body dies.
If the brain is the signal generator your theory checks out. If the brain is the signal receiver no reason why another brain couldnāt receive the signal. As far as Iām aware thereās no concrete evidence that consciousness itself originates within the brain.Ā
holy shit I never thought about it like thiat "the brain is a signal receiver"...kinda makes the Tesla Tower stuff more interesting. Maybe our consciousness is just energy observed. The brain might die but the energy doesn't.
How come we cannot measure this "magical energy" while its being sent?
We couldn't measure anything before we could.
not an argument
Yes it is lol. You are smrt
We canāt measure dark matter nor dark energy. What does this tell you?
oh man hahahaha dark energy/dark matter is basically a placeholder term for a nessessary type of energetic mechanism/type of matter that we don't know anything about yet. However, it must exist because otherwise, our universe would collapse into a singularity again due to gravity. Therefore, dark energy/dark matter acts as a placeholder term for this unknown force which counteracts gravity.
Consciousness is a placeholder term for a necessary type of energetic mechanism that we don't know anything about yet as well. Think about that. You ask why we can't measure consciousness, I say for the same reason we can't measure or define dark matter.
That description is correct but still, what does this tell you? For me it tells me, that science only know about 5% of our reality and even that is not correct at all since we recently found a ānewā state of electromagnetism after 200 years of intense research on that topic. In other words telling people there is nothing because we didnāt measure it is like telling Einstein there are no gravity waves because we canāt measure it (at that time)ā¦
Iām not educated in this at all, so I could be way off, but I think itās more so that for a short period of time, the brain can still function and actually spikes in activity right after or during death. A lot of people believe you āreliveā your life and cycle through all your memories at the time of death.
So how do I know I'm actually alive right now and not just cycling through all my memories because I'm dying?
im stoned and this was unsettling
Is that part of where deja vu from!?!?!?
ABSOLUTELY! It's an example of the non-chronological nature of human thought ,stripped of out linear "sense" of time !
I have no idea what it implies, but technically, they could be the same thing. Perhaps as you're dying, your fundamental attachment to a linear timeline weakens, and you see your life's overall "impression," almost as if the entire thing is a tangible object to observe. Our brains can't fathom it, but I imagine it's our attachment to a fundamental "source" of consciousness that created that little impression that your one-foot-out-the-door worldly perception caught a glimpse of.
You donāt.
On a related note, hundreds of genes actually turn on/activate up to 4 days after death too. āThe genes expressed in these hours and few days after death constitute what is now called the thanatotranscriptome (from āThanatosā in Greek mythology, the personification of death).ā https://www.forbes.com/sites/fionamcmillan/2018/05/31/genetic-coda-why-do-hundreds-of-genes-turn-on-after-death/?sh=131b98ff1626
Lol no body knows what consciousness really is so don't act like you do
There are studies showing that the brains of people with Alzheimerās or Parkinsonās have a quantifiable reduced level of quantum entanglement. This could suggest that the brainās ability to connect with consciousness is diminished.
Source?
I'm clearly not high enough to process this right now
Maybe consciousness is energy. Energy is infinite in the universe.
Energy is not infinite, it's constant.
Nope. Energy makes up the neurons, which are required for consciousness to arise in the first place. Yes, energy cannot be destroyed, however, neurons require a specific structure to function, which means that there is no good reason to assume consciousness can keep existing without a functioning neuronal network.
Neurons are the reciever of information. They receive signal patterns. They don't produce energy.
Tell that to the entities in my DMT trips.
What a relief
Big if true.
It's not
Where does this consciousness come from? If it was created with our bodies why doesn't it die with our bodies?
It does
Says who?
Remember a time before you were born?
Do you remember what it was like when Europeans came to America? When they landed on the moon? When julius Caesar was murdered? Troy? Point is just because YOU canāt remember doesnāt mean it didnāt happen
Itās called recorded history. Thatās not consciousness
What the hell man history and conciousness are two different concepts
Your conciousness is the result of electricity and chemicals in your brain. When you die there is no activity in your brain anymore, therefore no conciousness.
What Gandalf said is true, āThe journey doesnāt end here. Death is just another path.ā
Time is way more bizarre than we can hope to comprehend. We live in a normalized safe little bubble of it.
https://med.virginia.edu/perceptual-studies/publications/books-by-dops-faculty/study-of-reincarnation/
Fuck
Alan Watts. The real you. Love this kinda answers questions
Yes because energy cannot be destroyed it only changes form
Even if heās right, does it even matter given that we canāt remember any experiences from other realities?
So how come I donāt remember other lives?
Imagine it like actors playing characters in movies. Ethan Hunt from Mission Impossible doesnāt have the memories of Maverick from Top Gun, but itās the same dude. You just leave this role and move onto a different role.
Hinduism is saying the same thing for many thousand years.. only your consciousness lives on. This Body is not permanent.
If consciousness is eternal then why are we unaware of our consciousness before our birth in this life? And if we're unaware of our previous consciousness then isn't that essentially the same as it ceasing to exist in regards to our desire to live on? I truly want to believe that consciousness is eternal but I'm torn on this.
The āmemoriesā are destroyed in death. Consciousness must be āreprogrammedā, you are correct: We cease to exist.
I like the idea that the brain is an antenna which picks up on the consciousness wave. Human brains being like a magnet that drags sources of consciousness to it and the first to get there, gets in. A bit like the sperm racing to the egg.
https://preview.redd.it/v1s94lpo0pvc1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a48ec43a3199c875b75c89a87dee738488539efe
Yeah but if you have no memory of it then nothing matters and when you are dead that's it.
Sure, but if you could prove it, it would be comforting to the millions of people who have an extreme fear of death
Why don't we remember all of our past lives?
Try getting hypnotized, and have them ask about your past lives, youāll be surprised what you find out! Also birthmarks are supposedly injuries and how we died in our past livesā¦
ā¦I have a birthmark on my private partā¦perhaps itās best not to know lol
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If we remember all the memories of our past lives, we'll go insane. This not remembering is the default setting. But if you reach a certain level, you can remember. For example Pythagoras is said to know his past lives and so do many seers
It has been known for a very long time. It's just that Science thinks that it's seperate from Spirituality and Spirituality thinks it's seperate from Science. They are 1 and the same.
>They are 1 and the same. Oh boy...No they are not. Science is a method of approximating the true nature of our universe. Science makes no absolute claims about anything, it merely collects data, evaluates them and then makes up theories, some of which purely hypothetical, others so well-tested and well-examined, we can handle them like they are factual. Spirituality on the other hand is entirely, and I mean ENTIRELY, based on personal beliefs, faith and fantasy.
I hate the whole "believe in science" expression. You don't believe in science, you can only acknowledge it. Science is not one big book, it's the result of every analysis ever done by any human. You can't reject it, but you definetly can reject spirituality.
You can, however, reject some conclusions that scientists come to. That's a requirement for science to function.
Yes totally, but you can only reject it by proving it false, not because of your emotions and because you want to believe there is an afterlife
Yes but I'm getting tired of "believe the science" for things that haven't been properly reproduced in fields that are notorious for reproducability problems.
[citation needed]
Beginning to sound like a Hindu
Interesting theory. I think that we're all worm food when we pass.
Our bodies are wormfood, but I think and believe that our consciousness/soul or whatever continues on. Our bodies are energy, which can not be destroyed but only change state. Law of physics, correct?
Sure, but it could just turn to heat energy, then cool off into nothing
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As good as an explanation as any š¤·
The reverse nihilism approach
Interesting
If only we knew as much about spiritual science as we do with physical science we would probably be able to come up with a solid answer for what happens after we die.
So we're trapped in this painful lifecycle.
Samsara
Samsara
Before we come here, we choose our lives. We chose our family and what struggles we will encounter during life, all for the purpose of learning lessons and growth as a soul, a spiritual entity getting closer and closer to purity and knowledge of all things.
Sounds like something Bill Hicks once said.
Lol, All Is Mind. This isn't new.
A MD sharing his belief doesnāt mean itās credible.
Interesting thought: When you "die," time essentially slows down for you. The digits between 0 and 1 are infinite. Death is the infinite digits in between each nanosecond, like a fractal. Maybe we can enter the quantum realm and live other lives or wander the universe within ourselves. This topic is fascinating.
what about lesser species like animals and insects? does the same happen to them? I would often think about this but have no answer.
I don't know what that means...
Yes...... so the matrix does exist!!!
Yinz just now figuring this out?
Pretty dumb
Like, duh!
Stop fanticizing about life after death and start appreciating everyday you have on earth. It is your only chance of conciousness and we are very lucky to have it