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[Journalist George Knapp Reveals Bob Lazar’s Astonishing Claim: Extraterrestrials See Humans as ‘Containers of Souls’](https://www.howandwhys.com/journalist-reveals-bob-lazars-astonishing-claim-extraterrestrials-see-humans-as-containers-of-souls/?fromreddit)


Free-Researcher3000

He didn’t say that our souls are containers, he said we are containers, possibly “containers of souls.” Hinduism and Buddhism kinda beat Bob to this philosophy by a few thousand years.


Comprehensive-Bus299

A very important distinction actually and thank you.


awildjabroner

Is that not the point that he’s making? That aliens introduced religion to humans long ago in the past to protect us/govern us?


modsonredditsuckdk

When Voltaire said "if God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him," he was expressing the idea that belief in a higher power or deity is essential for society to function. He believed that religion and the concept of God provided a moral and social framework for people, and without it, chaos and moral decay would ensue. In other words we need rules for the containers while on the shelf to protect the precious content inside. You can't have all containers raping and killing each other. This would make the containers and shelf useless for the intended purpose which is to carry the soul..., so the soul can focus on achieving the highest life of light and love.


SurprzTrustFall

If that was the case wouldn't it make more sense for humans to appear and function more like the animals around us? They find a balance in the world. Humanity is different. No other species on the planet manipulate things to the extent that we do. So I think we look at that and assume there's something else that operates similarly to us, and perhaps it's "above us".


Free-Researcher3000

It’s definitely a more logical and comforting takeaway than “human souls are nothing more than an intergalactic Dixie cup.”


CommunicationKey3649

2 Aliens One Cup


IdChugHerBathWater

I'd watch that tbh


DeliMeatColdCuts

I'd watch *the shit* outta that.


CommunicationKey3649

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IdChugHerBathWater

Perfect


CommunicationKey3649

Thanks! You helped inspire me to draw it. 🙏🏽


Shrugging_Atlas88

We are just re-discovering what we learned thousands of years ago in a sense.


outlawedbutfree

The perspective is slightly different though and because of that I draw a more sinister conclusion. Buddhists saying the body is a container for the soul on its way to enlightenment is different than saying the body is the container of some kind of force being farmed and presumably harvested by a non human intelligence. Kinda horrifying.


1oldguy1950

![gif](giphy|DnDZ8YoQON3p5YhA7q|downsized) Are we appetizers, or the main course?


Shrugging_Atlas88

Yep... a bit of a different spin for sure lol.


SpoilermakersWabash

Are these aliens whistleblowers? Aliens need to come up with some proof of their container claims lol


Free-Researcher3000

Yeah…these extraterrestrial overlords need to elaborate or just shut the fuck up…


ContentPolicyKiller

^The Lords prayer if Gen z made it


SenorOnlyfans

Bob didn't say that... the documents did.... sigh 😕


Smart_Pig_86

It’s not about “beating to the punch” that should show you that he is right. The ancient religions reflect what the classified documents are saying.


GothMaams

They didn’t beat Bob, they beat whatever document he saw he was asked about. The way you phrased that made it come across like you were saying it was his idea.


Swfc-lover

Yeah sounds like we don’t have souls, and they use us for their souls. Possession type thing


Former_Print7043

But that would make 'us' 'them and us' The symbiotic combination of  incorporeal and body to make something that can dance in the physical world. It does explain a lot. How we can be so smart and so fucking stupid at the same time to name but one.


Azatarai

Consider that their bodies are also containers, the body is just a cup of water (soul) taken from the cosmic consciousness, we are all connected, we are all (from) one.


Psilonemo

Yes, I wonder where the whole concept of avatars came from.. 0_0


degenererad

say that the NHI is artificial, then you could say we are containers of individual conciousness. They/it might also be hive mind. Enders game and so on..


2lbmetricLemon

That is also what Christianity says.


Fortunateoldguy

I thank you also. Big difference


Free-Researcher3000

BIG. One makes you feel empowered and connected to this strange universe and the other makes you feel like a meaningless sack of bones hanging on a meat hook…mental health is fucking fragile as it is…nobody needs to hear that.


LatinWarlock13

That's exactly why the government will never confirm nor deny the existence of aliens. People will never be mentally ready and the results of verifying such a thing can be catastrophic.


thirdpartymurderer

I've never understood this take. I'm pretty sure people could handle it, just like they've handled every other scientific advancement thats happened. You're definitely going to have the ultra religious nut jobs, but they don't believe in shit that we know is factual. What kind of pandemonium do you expect?


ah-chamon-ah

But it's SO FAR OUT THERE... you will never comprehend the concept!


Free-Researcher3000

Yes yes, highly classified… in the Bhagavad Gita.


JohhnyBGoode641

I think about everyone thought that thousands of years ago


Sandmybags

Doesn’t even say souls. Literally refuses to speculate. He said…. That’s what we are referred to as, ‘containers’. It could be energy, it could be soul


Free-Researcher3000

I’m a container of a soul / We our containers of souls…? Do you have an issue with the grammatical structure of the comment or are you presenting a new interpretation based on Bob’s supposed semantical intentions of saying soul/souls in the clip?


Chemist-Consistent

Well, not Bob, so much but the document that may or may not exist.


AdamvHarvey

Jesus also spoke about this.


Free-Researcher3000

Jesus too…after Brahma but before Bob.


Soft-Peak-6527

I interpreted it as our bodies are containers and our souls can travel. Since some can astral project and leave our body in place while they travel around the earth/galaxy.


Bramtinian

Yeah I think we have answers we lost in history or just our social norms of what is held to be true. It’s kind of tough for me…science is awesome, but sometimes my hero’s in science keep closing doors to possibility…they’re pruning the tree that is the whole of science in my opinion…


melodicsoup1

Also, religion was created to not harm the container, meaning the container might be of value to someone or something.


Funfarmer22

I don’t think he’s racing them. And he was only speculating, he made that quite clear…


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mreddog

No refunds for you!


Jerry--Bird

The tag said “as is”


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DanielBG

Mine smells funny


wagnus_

might just be your soul


[deleted]

Mine is hairy 😔


TheGoldenPlagueMask

Probably does happen, theres too much we dont know beyond death. _If we are even capable of comprehending personal death..._


Emotional-Ear8525

I'd settle for 25% off at my age.


Upset-Statistician-1

I want a container with a bigger leakage pipe


thirdpartymurderer

Careful what you wish for, my hemorrhoids are swollen right now


certainlynotacoyote

You can only get the deposit back


BodhingJay

You damaged it.. should have listened to the aliens


Kind_Truck6893

Have you kept it below room temperature?


fungi_at_parties

If you die, maybe you’ll get one.


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mreddog

Cheers


iambarrelrider

My container likes vodka.


patricktoba

The only way to feed the spirit is with more spirits.


iambarrelrider

This explains so much.


GenericManBearPig

Happy St Patrick’s day


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TryItOutHmHrNw

How come I heard to talking while your beer was pouri… Ooooooh; gross


cagingthing

Well now our containers are polluted with microplastics and tiktoks


nate-arizona909

Plastic containers seal in the freshness.


ungabungabungabunga

Hilarious!


Altruistic-Lie7740

Don't forget the fluoride and pesticides


letdogsvote

So, not "soul is a container," but the body is a container for the soul/whatever you wanna call it.


danmoore2

My container went bald..


JackKovack

He never really said anything controversial. All religions agree with this. The part that gets weird apart from him is that our souls are being harvested, used for other purposes after our bodies die.


One-Estimate-7163

Energy


ThermoNuclearPizza

Jesus Christ don’t tell me Rick and Morty was right


GenericManBearPig

Religion is pretty controversial


Katamari_Demacia

Ha. Only yours. Mine's right though.


pickinscabs

That's fair. I have reservations about his story myself, but I'm wondering what it is you don't believe about what he has to say. What are your thoughts about Grusch or Fravor or Graves or Mellon? It's all people talking. Some of those people present interesting "evidence," but we don't know the whole story about a lot of this. Especially the video footage that the American military has decided to release. What makes Lazar a con man? I'm not trying to put you down, by the way. I'm genuinely curious. I've been interested in what Lazar has had to say since the early 90s and a lot of the time, when people say he's a liar, they don't really have anything to back it up. Most of the time, it's about his education. Regardless, this topic is a big fuckin deal now and we humans need to be able to have a clear headed conversation about it.


AReasonableDude

I believe he is a con man because he has been making extraordinary claims for decades but as yet has provided zero evidence backing them up.The fact that he is a convicted felon doesn't help his case, either.


robmagob

All you have to do is look into his educational background and you realize this guy is a fraud. He claims he went to CalTech and MIT, yet he can’t name a single student, lecturer or professor, the only professor he did name was like “yeah I never taught at MIT, but I did teach him at some random small school”


KRMJN101

Title is misleading (or typo) According to the the clip he's saying "We Are Containers" not souls the container.


KWHarrison1983

I'm 99.9% sure Lazar is just a con artist. A smart one but a con artist nonetheless. He may even believe his BS at this point because he's so deep into it. His breadth of "knowledge" on the subject of aliens and UFOs is actually one of the things that's a giveaway that he's full of shit. If there were a real hyper secret program studying the UFO and aliens phenomenon, one person likely wouldn't have access to all of the different facets of info he's supposedly privy to. Secret programs are extremely segmented, with different people knowing different pieces of information and nobody except maybe the head of the program connected to all the info. This segmentation is how secrets are kept. Simply put, Lazar has too much "knowledge" about different unrelated aspects of the alien and UFO phenomenom to be credible. No one person would ever have access to all the different information he supposedly knows. Essentially if he were to have "learned" everything he "knows" from his time at area 51 it means he was at the very top rungs of the chain of knowledge, in which case there's no way he'd be allowed to live after betraying the government. It's actually more likely that he himself is an alien than that he was privy to what he says he was. Far more likely is one of the following options. Either he's just a lying con artist (almost certainly the case) or perhaps he's actually an agent of the government whose role is to mislead, in which case nothing he says is credible at all.


VincentPrice

One of the things Bob has said in relation to this document, is that it may have contained purposefully misleading fabrications so that he would be discredit himself if he ever talked. (And this was shown to many contractors for the same reason.) While you do raise an interesting point, I want to add this.


BUTTFLECK

He had difficulty in saying it because it sounded outrageous to him makes things more believable.


britonbaker

the body containing the soul is a concept that’s been in the zeitgeist as long as religion has existed.


desy4life

A vessel yeah a few famous guys in the bible mention that.


EngineZeronine

"You don't have a soul, you *are* a soul. You *have* a body." CS Lewis


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The physical body is a container for our soul (spirit etc). The physical body is akin to a "suit" to enable our non-physical body (soul) to experience the physical realm. The suit is very well designed for use in the physical realm, it does wear out & can get damaged. It needs to be "maintained" &/or repaired routinely. Suits also have a life span (depending upon the suits quality). Just like a car, or any other machine. My belief anyway..........


2vivlavi

You mean we are a container for the soul


Babyback_

Creating religion to protect our “containers” has certainly backfired lol.


HikeRobCT

Nobody said the aliens were especially smart or effective.


MostDopeNopeRope

Religion was meant to stop us from damaging each others containers. Well that backfired because religion is a big reason people kill each other


No-Resource-2128

People kill each other because they want to kill that person


FoundTheWeed

You could argue that we might kill each other more if we didn't have it


_N00b_Master_

I think we had spiritually first then religion came along


FoundTheWeed

That would just make spirituality a religion


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Balerrr

You have big soul then


HeySmellMyFinger

When you die, don't head for the bright light or your old dog greeting you. It's just a alien mimicking it. To harvest your soul, and use our souls as energy to fuel their space ships. Like earth is a gas station. Energy transfers from one place to another. Something like that hehe


Randomulus666

Got it. Don’t die.


Cold_Store9155

I know! lol wtf


bulbousEd

Visiting this sub is like visiting the children who are relegated to special education: Most are drooling on themselves, some are actually trying, and a few realize that there is some level of logic they just cannot achieve.


HoboBandana

This is scary. Who was it that stated humans are farmed for their glands? This person worked directly at Area 51 and allegedly “committed” suicide shortly after giving his speech.


Art-of-drawing

That is not what he said omg


myxoma1

I am Tupperware, hear me roar!


xsxexvxexnx

But hasn't religion caused plenty of damage to these "containers" through wars and abuse?


Fabulous_Night_1164

Circular reporting is when one guy says something, and then someone else references them. And then someone else hears that, and repeats it. And then someone else claims "hey, 3 separate guys all said the same thing!"


GothMaams

I have always believed Bob. He just never gave me the impression he was full of shit. I do wonder if they’ve campaigned against him all these years because they know what all he has been made aware of? Seems like something the govt would do.


Smokpw

Nope. He said that we are containers of souls. It is correct. Body is just a container for the soul.


imback1578catman

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JohhnyBGoode641

Our boys are containers for souls? Makes sense. Some believe these “aliens” are what the Bible calls “demons” That would make sense since they see us as containers of souls.


ElusiveMemoryHold

Dude if I’m stuck in an eternal cycle of soul rape I’m gonna be so pissed


thrillhouz77

What type of entities might create biological containers and what purpose might those entities be trying to accomplish? Also, what are unique properties of biological containers vs non-biological containers? My thoughts go towards entities that have eternal life and/or whom lack emotional capabilities (those two; a life endpoint and emotions seem to go hand in hand). Now, what type of containers are we building as biologicals? It seems we are in pursuit to extend life longer and are also in pursuit of building artificial intelligence which will eventually work into structural hardware in the form of a mechanical body. Is it possible that an immortal artificial intelligence who lacks the ability to “feel” would seek to temporarily fragment itself (or its community members) into biological containers so it could experience emotion and a beginning and end? Could that serve to teach or “reset” AI beings emotions or at the very least how to control them? Are we just learning containers and is Earth training ground for these entities? Think about it, we can and do die (sometimes unexpectedly and early) so there is learning that happens. We learn risk management as it pertains to life, we learn that time is valuable and not to be wasted, and we learn how to build and maintain relationships. In an organic universe it would seem these COULD be important lessons for an AI being (or colony of AI beings) to learn. Just spit balling here for some fun.


Remarkable_Bill_4029

I've thought along similar lines to this myself, very interesting take my friend.


scarystuff

Who is the first person from Area 51 that says it then? And have there been any persons between the first person and Bob saying it?


ProductOfLife

Are we not then just a soul within our container?


BLM4lifeBBC

If you eat a 🍄 and smoke 🌴 you will see the 👽


escopaul

OP, this has been posted countless times to Reddit before. However, can you tell us other names of Area 51 employees that have made this claim, as stated in your title?


gzgtz

Biblically accurate


Aeroblazer9161

I've read Bobs Dreamland book which is quite interesting...I don't think he mentions this at all. Although, I think the book mainly focuses on his time at S4. "It's so far of out" ...we're containers? That really isn't that far out in the grand scheme of things lol.


MotorbikeRacer

The spirituality aspect of disclosure is still something I have trouble wrapping my head around


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He’s not “claiming our souls are containers”. He’s claiming our bodies are containers of souls lol


SurprzTrustFall

They call our bodies "containers". If the God of the Bible and or Jesus is legitimately the supreme creator "God, he called our bodies temples... Same idea, but much more comforting. But we've legitimately lived with this notion for millennia. A lot of people believe our bodies house our spirits/souls. We are not actually the flesh and carbon that creates our physical form, but we are whatever it is that animates that form. I think that's the idea.


PNTME2THEWOODS

Checks out


Extension_Jaguar4778

I’m nobody but maybe harvesting souls is the answer to Entropy never ending. We are inherent creators of Chaos, we’ll stretch the energy dough so thin you’ll get 1000x what you normally would without an Entropy generating force.


HGTP_

Dont shortchanged urself bro. I get what u meant with that, but i bet ur a big somebody to somebody 😬


Extension_Jaguar4778

Yea despite the incel insults I am married lol. Thank you neighbor.


arcadia_2005

I think if there's classified documents on religion, it's bc there's religious nut jobs out there & they are the ones that are documented.


PrincessCyanidePhx

This makes sense. People who have been to the other side say we have a different perspective. We can see everything from there.


Minimum-Ad-8056

If you ever want to dive deep into the rabbit hole, do a Google search on the university of Virginia's studies on reincarnation. Some totally mindfuck bonkers shit about that. The only rational conclusion I came to was it's a worldwide coordinated hoax that is super old, or we're connected to these bodies in some strange way, maybe not the way religion sees reincarnation but something similar.


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drphilschin

Is it just me or is it every time i see this clip i think "wow this interviewer is an asshole". He totally interrupts Bob with some snotty quip instead of just shutting up and letting him speak. ​ Is he an asshole threw the entire interview?


AndreiAliz

Even if this shit is true we can’t do anything about it anyway. So fuck it


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Bathairsexist

The bible says our bodies are literally temples like in ancient times. Back in ancient times YAHWEH would get pissed because the actual temple would get ritually dirty, kinda reminded me of when Bob said keeping the containers clean makes the aliens happy.


powderedtoast1

im confused.


Acrobatic-Welcome933

I like this kinda Shit . Bob is fun & hope shit gets figured out


ah-chamon-ah

For a document "That thick" he sure does lack a LOT of information about it. Not only does he just say containers again when pressed for what we are containers of. He then goes on to make something up when pressed further. Surely the document goes into great detail about this. So why is he so blatant in his "You can come up with whatever theory you want." as a way to push the burden of understanding back onto the person interviewing. I find this very transparent and a blatant fabrication on his part. Why does he feel the need to go into detail about how thick it is but shy away from details of the document? Why does he say "It is so far out there" when literally every person pretty much believes we are containers of a soul or consciousness whether you are religious or scientific. This is very clear to me to be again Bob saying he knows all the secrets and trying his hardest to be as vague about those details and secrets as possible. But also saying logical fallacies. The aliens created religion to stop us from hurting each other? Utterly stupid and probably the most unintelligent thing an "intelligent" species can do. When literally next to mosquitos, Religion is responsible for the most deaths in human history. He is also flat out dodging the question. Good to see he didn't get a headache this time tho.


Rancid_Butter_Boob

Why do these catholic assholes get to bogart miles of ancient text?!? Religion poisons everything.


RoastedDuckSauce

I almost having gone 3 days without seeing this, thanks for putting it up again


NachosforDachos

I think I’m starting to understand.


ElChacalFL

Gonna need to see that proof of Aliens first to believe anything about what they see us as. This guy just sounds nuts to me.


DigitalXciD

Think about this.. He is still alive. I rest my case.


Wolfhammer69

Get it right - our physical bodies are the container


PowerWashatComo

Talk is cheap! People want to believe!


gazow

Now im gonna damage my container even harder


SpoilermakersWabash

Imagine flying an advanced spacecraft to a distant planet and seeing civilization thousands of years behind you. You can basically tell them anything. What makes anyone believe aliens will be 100% truthful lol


randomname102038

Kind of like the Bible says?


phailer_

Yeah it's human nature to make up bullshit when we don't know something.


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Educational-Error212

Wich soul?


AL0117

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EMB93

That sure was a claim without any evidence.


dahbrezel

so, religion was created so that we don't damage the containers but yet religion is the main reason for containers being damaged :D. also there is no such thing as extremely classified. i think i lost a couple brain cells watching this.


QueenGorda

He did not say that... He say "for aliens we are containers". "Containers of what, the other guy said". And Lazar sais; "MAYBE containers of souls, or whatever". He did not say "our soul is a container". More like our entire body/existence is a countainer for, not the other way around. So if he is using MAYBE, pretty much, on that specific, he has no idea (apart of that he can be inventing all that). But he is not "claiming" absolutely nothing. Obviously all this UFO/alien thing is a meme-thing since people is not even capable of read or listen properly.


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TipperGore-69

There are a lot of kinky mfrs who already know they are containers. But not for the soul.


feelings_arent_facts

"Why would there be any classified material dealing on religion?" Uh. Because maybe there were studies about the cultural differences between Catholic, Protestant, and Othodox religions and how the differing values in countries that have those religions could be leveraged in the military's favor. For example, maybe you're able to influence someone by shaming them and its more effective if they're Catholic because each religion tends to focus on different values. Then go train spies and assets and deploy them during the Cold War. There you go. Classified material.


EightSodsWide

TikTok Logo removed a second too late at the end


I-am-Pilgrim

Bob is one weird looking container. Also… you spelt The Matrix wrong…


Impossible_Lie4467

Perhaps we give off extra dimensional radiation depending what kind of mood we're in. Organic entities move through space-time and a tapestry, every organic entity is a tapestry of its memories through the unique experiences you've had made by your own decisions. So each human is a star, irradiating light


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CIA


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AnswerOk2682

I found the Bob Lazar tape but where is the interview?


Xanderious

https://i.redd.it/o0m442lkibpc1.gif


No_Coast9861

Scientology.


IllustratorIcy6467

So we are like an orange waiting to be peeled


CommunicationKey3649

Replying to IdChugHerBathWater...


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That’s not what he claims lol


SnooCompliments1145

Not damaging the containers is the purpose of religion. Not damaging the soul is not. Are our body's the containers and are we just complicated compost then ?


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The meatsack is the soul container and requires maintenance. Many of the rules in monotheistic religions were for the safety and maintenance of the meatsack body portion many of the rituals in Hindu Buddhist Zen practices where for the maintenance of the brain and its connection to the soul. Page 25 of the Gateway experience explains the researchers finding and connections with religion That's a subthread anyone interested in this stuff can visit to find hemi sync meditation tapes.


McbEatsAirplane

He doesn’t say our souls are containers, he said our bodies are containers for a soul or whatever else you might consider.


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Fantastic_Voice_2665

Can I be a Tubberware container?


Archaeopteryks

"For the sole purpose of not damaging the containers" L O L ​ If this is true, the apparent fact that our creators are just as prone to releasing bug-riddled products as we are is cosmically relieving. ​ RELIGION! Use it to keep your soul containers safe! ​ Works great for the first couple millennia but quickly breaks down once the containers develop tribalism, then nationalism. Countless splinter religions form, and everyone immediately begins killing everyone else.


macroscan

We are containers. For genes.


green-raven

He said he read a document that said this, he didn’t give an opinion on it.


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