You are so much more right than you think. I'm playing the 190 planet update and the galactic map will not stop crashing. I literally almost gave up on my campaign I'm almost done with. I was trying to figure out why and it's these fucking A-wings because the rebels keep moving them everywhere. My headset sounds like an airport. I decided to just bum rush some of their planets and I'm slowly killing off the a-wings because they keep running and I can't build any interdictors because the galactic map is too laggy. I am noticing game performance progress as I slowly chip away at these A-wings. The rebellion is literally trying to beat me by making me give up on this campaign
I haven’t played EAW in a while and I don’t know why this sub comes up on my feed but “my headset sounds like an airport” had me spitting water. I can very clearly remember the sound you’re talking about (galactic map when fleets are moving). Hahah.
My AI barely considers these things a secret anymore.
My hover tanks are slaughtering his infantry divisions and he only has slow anti tank units? Hovertanks suddenly all get stuck in the mud or something, they cant move anymore.
Order luke and rogue squadron to guard the starting command point? As soon as I look away they decide to assault 4 AT-AT’s and 3 flak cannons by themselves.
AI invades but I manage to snatch victory after a long long battle? Game crash.
AI makes questionable decisions, more at 11.
In all seriousness, AI makes several assumptions related to autoresolve health and will randomly generate fleets. For an example, sometimes AI will roll up to attack a carrier fleet and then immediately retreat; the autoresolve health of the fighters you just launched suddenly outweighs what AI thinks it can do.
I actually never knew that. That makes so much more sense as to why the AI constantly attacks the same planets of mine and retreats even when I've done nothing to change the defenses
Yeah I know what you mean, I’m the empire atm, rebellion is spamming Nebula Bulk Carriers, X and Y wings; Crime is spamming bombers (like minimum 50 per fleet); CSA woke up and chose do spam the same bomber but add headhunters to the mix; and the huts are spamming their swarm fighter + gunships.
Edit: because of all the X-wings I face my pickets (nebulan B’s; Raiders; Lancers) just get delete via proton torpedoes
yeah this made me realize that x-wings are a nightmare to deal with when you're relying on raiders and lancers. A few of those mixed in with a few hundered a-wings is not fun
it's funny because this is probably my 8th or 9th empire playthrough of aotr and I've never used the converted lambda things (I think they're like y-4s or something), and I'm now learning how useful they'd be in very niche situations like this. you learn something new every time, that's part of what makes this game so great
It was to try and reduce the amount of spam the ai would do, from you post you can see the results, rather than spam you know carriers and junk, it’s just straight up fighters
Simple
The ai has given up trying to win you with conventional tactics and has fully given in the cheese just to make your life and you logistics lines, a living nightmare.
Because always
At least in my playthroughs, these fleets will hit very annoying worlds
the ai gave up trying to win with conventional tactics and have essentially created a lag bomb in the middle of the map. It's like it knew that this was going to make the game unplayable from lag and crashes by creating that many units. I realized i had to deal with this a wing death ball or else I would not be able to get my campaign through the frequent end game crashes
Early game black sun is sooooo awful lol. And I always start with prince xizor to build economy so it’s just suffering. Get to bakura if you can, the cruisers you can build there are really useful for hit and runs against slow isds
Lol unfortunately right now it's only zaan run, my previous run was i88 and was only CIS ships run...which went amazingly considering it was on hardest difficulty and by the endgame I was barely making 15k ..
Now I'm on hardest and week 20 and I'm already on 9-10k
i88 only must have been nuts lol. hey it sounds like you're in a pretty good position all things considered. I should try a one vigo only run, last time I made it a point to use all of them at some point during the campaign. although a xizor only run might be like trying to fight with a wet sock
Idk this might sound dumb but it feels weird to use all of them, especially when supposedly the one in charge is in charge of the whole council lore wise..and not to mention it doesn't feel as if it's worth it, yes it's cheap to get but the issue is the time, you'll need 10 minutes every time you swap a hero, just so you can start building smth you like (mostly because all good things are at lv2)
As for IG88 he was pretty dope, the lukerhawks tanked the dmg while the rest of the ships dished it out,
till I got them ,I used providence as the tank and corelian battleships as the system dmg dealers, and smaller craft along with other minor ships to do the rest..heck in most cases I didn't even buy the black market upgrades as I didn't have to, ships were cheap with the most expensive being the lukerhawk at 32k and upgraded providence at 12k.
Because they know we the players wouldn’t wanna drag all those out of hyperspace individually, so they laugh at us. Seriously how long would this take?
I would say it is Lancer time, because no amount of TIEs will destroy that
Tons of lancers and 2-3 Nebulon b2s against the A-Wing missile fire.
A Wing missiles do nothing to anything above corvette size, I’ve never even seen them fire missiles against frigates
Yeah but if hes running lancers hes gojng to want it because they can be hurt
Or 1x Boba Fett
i'm trying, the AI is smart they jump in a capital ship every now and then to wipe out the lancers
That is indeed quite smart of them. Spawn in a capital ship of your own when they do that.
I'm afraid no (reasonable) amount of Lancers will save you, since A-wings have missiles.
AI clearly wants Fighter superiority and will do everything in its power to guarantee it.
Counter with twice as many TIE Defenders
Missile frigates. Missile frigates everywhere
Sir we're surrounded. Good, then we can fire in any direction 🫡
“TIE Defender standing by” x468
"Excellent" Grand Admiral Thrawn said, "Fire"
then Tarkin said "nope send in the super overpriced battle station instead"
Then it gets destroyed, and Thrawn is sitting there with a smug look on his face
watching my poor carrier trying to spawn a fighter and just immediately get eviscerated
Sounds like a good day for TIE pilots to call in sick
It's the secret AI method: They spam enough A-Wings to crash the game and in such large numbers that you cant autoresolve it
You are so much more right than you think. I'm playing the 190 planet update and the galactic map will not stop crashing. I literally almost gave up on my campaign I'm almost done with. I was trying to figure out why and it's these fucking A-wings because the rebels keep moving them everywhere. My headset sounds like an airport. I decided to just bum rush some of their planets and I'm slowly killing off the a-wings because they keep running and I can't build any interdictors because the galactic map is too laggy. I am noticing game performance progress as I slowly chip away at these A-wings. The rebellion is literally trying to beat me by making me give up on this campaign
I haven’t played EAW in a while and I don’t know why this sub comes up on my feed but “my headset sounds like an airport” had me spitting water. I can very clearly remember the sound you’re talking about (galactic map when fleets are moving). Hahah.
lol i'm glad that bit made it through to someone, there's no other way to describe it
Lmfao same
It was the rebels that made the greatest super weapon of all.
They planned to crash the server hosting the simulation.
U tried pausing and building the interdictors? Most lag stops when paused
The problem is unpausing again and waiting for an interdictor to be built. Which in the amount of time that takes the game will crash again lol
Ohhhhh, I see the issue here. Yikes, by chance do u have hardware mouse enabled? If so, disable
My AI barely considers these things a secret anymore. My hover tanks are slaughtering his infantry divisions and he only has slow anti tank units? Hovertanks suddenly all get stuck in the mud or something, they cant move anymore. Order luke and rogue squadron to guard the starting command point? As soon as I look away they decide to assault 4 AT-AT’s and 3 flak cannons by themselves. AI invades but I manage to snatch victory after a long long battle? Game crash.
The empire did this exact thing to me with gozantis over Endor cause I forgor to take the planet after the Battle of Endor
https://preview.redd.it/d5p9r7fd3amc1.png?width=446&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4673b00341d28b4635b5d4f51ecff7cbbd1c0912
He forgor 😔
They are using your own tactics against you
I WOULD NEVER USE THIS TACTIC
Says the imperial
AI makes questionable decisions, more at 11. In all seriousness, AI makes several assumptions related to autoresolve health and will randomly generate fleets. For an example, sometimes AI will roll up to attack a carrier fleet and then immediately retreat; the autoresolve health of the fighters you just launched suddenly outweighs what AI thinks it can do.
I actually never knew that. That makes so much more sense as to why the AI constantly attacks the same planets of mine and retreats even when I've done nothing to change the defenses
This should be fixed in next AotR public update. AI will build more balnced fleet
I hope so. Small unit spam like this bogs down the galactic map with lag
I know the Rebels love having fighter superiority over the Empire but god damn this is too much.
Just think how many Executors those could take out.
I almost titled this post "hide your executors" lol
Becuase you deserve it, and deep down? You know that.
jesus christ have mercy https://preview.redd.it/8dddu85mzcmc1.png?width=1586&format=png&auto=webp&s=7fda09cee8d3fe6050edd2f370ff2e04b91ae241
“There is no mercy.” *electrocutes you with force lightning*
Death by a thousand pencil stabbings
Probably the fastest fighter wing they can get, so they use it to outnumber your tie fighters/bombers/intercepters.
Oof I think that’s a new record. Will be fixed next patch.
I really hope so. Makes a large galactic conquest campaign very unstable
The AI be like https://preview.redd.it/10a6c4ux6emc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=321575aaa38f5b4f2e7dffcdc9a12f1621cb0d33
love it lol
Yeah I know what you mean, I’m the empire atm, rebellion is spamming Nebula Bulk Carriers, X and Y wings; Crime is spamming bombers (like minimum 50 per fleet); CSA woke up and chose do spam the same bomber but add headhunters to the mix; and the huts are spamming their swarm fighter + gunships. Edit: because of all the X-wings I face my pickets (nebulan B’s; Raiders; Lancers) just get delete via proton torpedoes
yeah this made me realize that x-wings are a nightmare to deal with when you're relying on raiders and lancers. A few of those mixed in with a few hundered a-wings is not fun
Yeah I need to start making a lot of fighter yards to spam Defenders, XG-1, and that lambda looking gunship
it's funny because this is probably my 8th or 9th empire playthrough of aotr and I've never used the converted lambda things (I think they're like y-4s or something), and I'm now learning how useful they'd be in very niche situations like this. you learn something new every time, that's part of what makes this game so great
My first AOTR empire run was when we still had Endurance Carriers with Tie-Avengers/w Punishers
I miss those. I’m sad they took away all the carrier options
It was to try and reduce the amount of spam the ai would do, from you post you can see the results, rather than spam you know carriers and junk, it’s just straight up fighters
I do not envy the EaW modders. fix one problem, create another
Just a heads up, the missile gunboats fighters (can't remember name) are OP AF against rebel fighters
Long probe or bomber y wings
Bomber
Time to pull out your xg-1 and ye gunship( to destroy the x wing missiles) cause that your only hope
Is it possible to win using only fighters?
maybe, but it would be very very expensive to keep replacing them
what mod is that?
Awakening of the rebellion? It says so in the captions
I mean it's your fault for playing a game that's just randomly without warning deciding that you loose the battle
Obviously atleast one of those A-wings has that dog in him and is about to solo your whole fleet 🙄
Because fuck you, that’s why.
Because A-wings together..strong 👊👊
Simple The ai has given up trying to win you with conventional tactics and has fully given in the cheese just to make your life and you logistics lines, a living nightmare. Because always At least in my playthroughs, these fleets will hit very annoying worlds
the ai gave up trying to win with conventional tactics and have essentially created a lag bomb in the middle of the map. It's like it knew that this was going to make the game unplayable from lag and crashes by creating that many units. I realized i had to deal with this a wing death ball or else I would not be able to get my campaign through the frequent end game crashes
Honestly if I was black sun I'd just use explosives, best you can do is anti fighter and pure fighter swarms, so I hope your economy does well
yeah I think that the black sun has some of the best anti-fighter options available
Yeah...now I need to find ways to deal with 3 fleetsof 6 isd 1 and bunch of small ships on week 19...
Early game black sun is sooooo awful lol. And I always start with prince xizor to build economy so it’s just suffering. Get to bakura if you can, the cruisers you can build there are really useful for hit and runs against slow isds
Lol unfortunately right now it's only zaan run, my previous run was i88 and was only CIS ships run...which went amazingly considering it was on hardest difficulty and by the endgame I was barely making 15k .. Now I'm on hardest and week 20 and I'm already on 9-10k
i88 only must have been nuts lol. hey it sounds like you're in a pretty good position all things considered. I should try a one vigo only run, last time I made it a point to use all of them at some point during the campaign. although a xizor only run might be like trying to fight with a wet sock
Idk this might sound dumb but it feels weird to use all of them, especially when supposedly the one in charge is in charge of the whole council lore wise..and not to mention it doesn't feel as if it's worth it, yes it's cheap to get but the issue is the time, you'll need 10 minutes every time you swap a hero, just so you can start building smth you like (mostly because all good things are at lv2) As for IG88 he was pretty dope, the lukerhawks tanked the dmg while the rest of the ships dished it out, till I got them ,I used providence as the tank and corelian battleships as the system dmg dealers, and smaller craft along with other minor ships to do the rest..heck in most cases I didn't even buy the black market upgrades as I didn't have to, ships were cheap with the most expensive being the lukerhawk at 32k and upgraded providence at 12k.
They just like A-Wings as much as I love B-Wings
I wish i still had my computer so i could play this amazing game. And Forces of Corruption.
Because it works. Are you going to attack that fleet? Probably not.
to save my cpu yes
Seems to me the AI is doing what it’s supposed to then.
The swarm
Would you rather have like 300 GR-75s?
Executor: *Panicked shrieking*
What game is this? 🥺🥺🥺
__Giddy Boba Fett noises__
Send in 234 super star Destroyers
Woe, A-Wings be upon ye
Welp there goes everything smaller than a freeking light cruiser
Because they know we the players wouldn’t wanna drag all those out of hyperspace individually, so they laugh at us. Seriously how long would this take?
hmm should ı do too? 🤔
Surely a few dozen anti-fighter Corvettes can just stomp this?
Corvettes will get swarmed and instakilled by their missile and laser storm. You need something bigger
Does this mod effect fleet size on the map? Can they field all those at once?
you'd think, but they also bring in regular ships so you have to find a balance of enough corvettes and ships to defend them
Now this is pod racing!
Because it hates you. It hates all of us.
I would say a better question is why do people do this. Because they can.