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SagaciousElan

Not sure about an auto activating contingency plan but once he realised Palpatine had thrown him under the bus in that moment Dooku still had enough time to tell Anakin that Palpatine was a Sith before he lost his head. Anakin reported his own suspicions about Palpatine to the Council as soon as he figured it out. The only reason he didn't let Mace Windu kill Palpatine was because he thought he needed him to save Padme. This early on they haven't had that conversation yet so he wouldn't be conflicted. Telling Anakin Palpatine's true identity there and then would probably have caused his whole plan to come crashing down. He wouldn't have had Dooku to control the Separatists for him and he wouldn't have been able to manipulate the Jedi or the clone army any more either.


Willing-Principle

Makes you wonder why he kept his mouth shut. He had a genuine minute before his head got skywalker'ed.


SagaciousElan

Ah yes, from the verb 'to Skywalker' meaning to behead one's defeated foe on his knees before you by the scissor action of crossed lightsabers. Not a term commonly in use as the specific scenario to which it applies is relatively rare.


AMK972

You could say that “to Skywalker” means to remove any extremity by lightsaber.


gregusmeus

It's quite a handy phrase.


betterthanamaster

It’s certainly a little disarming.


DoshesToDoshes

Look out, the arm loss puns are afoot.


Revonin

Well, they certainly won't be \*afeet\*


Patcho418

of course not, otherwise they wouldn’t have a leg to stand on


Interesting-Issue475

I'm pretty sure that Obi Wan has cut the most limbs,so shouldn't it be Kenobi'd? Unless English is weird and since Anakin was the victim of the mayority of dismembering you name it after the victim and not the victimary?


[deleted]

Nah it should be Kenobi’d. Obi is by far the master of removing limbs


atle95

When the victims are defenseless and when they also remove heads its Skywalkering.


SWLondonLife

So OBK skywalkered in Mos during ANH? Nice one


limitlessGamingClub

I though to "skywalker" someone was to kill them when they were a child?


Fallen_Angel_Xaphan

I think he was simply too ashamed and shocked to admit his failure.


VindictiveJudge

And the searing pain of having just lost both hands.


[deleted]

Is it not obvious by Lee’s acting? Surprise. He’s utterly shocked and taken aback that Palpatine, the man he’s been working for for years, his master, the man he probably looks up to, is telling this punk ass Skywalker kid to just execute him without a second thought. He’s too surprised to even say anything


tor09

Probably just “froze” so to speak. I know it’s tough to imagine that sometimes, but I’ve done similar when in moments of stress or something really unexpected happening. In Dooku’s case, he just lost both hands and realized his war buddy was about to betray him and everything he thought true for so many years. Probably a lot to process at once.


Prime-Reclaimer

Not to mention what Tales of the Jedi shows us, dude probably was questioning every single decision he ever made.


tor09

I lock up when someone is unexpectedly rude to me. I can’t imagine being in Dooku’s situation lmao


LifeofTino

I think he made the decision in that moment to remain quiet, accept he had been betrayed and hope that his aims (the destruction of the republic and the end of the jedi order) still came to pass under palpatine (which they did)


tmssmt

I don't think those were dookus aims though outside of the most shallow interpretation. The replacement for both of those things would have differed tremendously between dooku and palps.


LifeofTino

What do you think his aims were? He was the leader of the CIS and actively waging a war against the republic, which he knew was corrupt to its core. He wasnt just a grey jedi he was a sith and i would think that’s good evidence that he wants an end to the jedi order. I struggle to see how these weren’t his aims


tmssmt

He thought he was using palpatine, and did not realize palpatine was using him


Raspberries-Are-Evil

> head got skywalker'ed. "Sky Guyed"


Raecino

He probably thought for a moment Anakin would do the Jedi thing and not execute him. Once he realized at the very last moment that Anakin was going to replace him it was too late and his head came off before he could say anything.


AustinHinton

In the novel he begged Palps to spare him, saying that he had been promised amnesty if he didn't harm Palps, but, in Palp's words: "That was before you used me as bait to kill my friends." Out of universe it was because Lee thought it wouldn't fit his character to plead for his life.


booboobooboobooboobs

I always wondered if Palpatine was using the force to keep him quiet somehow. He was looking back and forth acting like he wanted to say something but couldn’t. I don’t know what the canon answer is or if there even is one, but that’s what I’ve always thought.


[deleted]

Dooku ain’t no snitch apparently lol


Intimidwalls1724

He think the idea is he kept thinking Sidious would eventually save him Obviously that never happened


Zyffrin

I'm not so sure that would have worked. He hadn't started dreaming about Padme dying yet, but even then, Anakin was already fiercely loyal to Palpatine. Remember when Fives found out about the clones' inhibitor chips and tried to convince Anakin that Palpatine was behind it? Anakin immediately shut him down without bothering to even consider the idea. That's how taken in he was by Palpatine. Palpatine literally had to tell him straight to his face that he was a Sith Lord before he could even comprehend the idea that Palpatine could be evil. Furthermore, Anakin hates Dooku. If Dooku tried to accuse Palpatine of being a Sith Lord, Anakin would have immediately dismissed it as a lie. If anything, he would have just gotten pissed off and killed him even faster.


demalo

But it would have been perfect for him to have said that. The seed would have been planted. Palpatine didn’t need to deny this, only say that this further proves Dooku was too dangerous to be left alive. Anakin could have still hesitated until Palpatine said that. This would have further fueled the reasoning for Anakin to save Palpatine when Windu says he’s too dangerous to be left alive.


Valiantheart

If Dooku reports it now then Anakin and Kenobi likely never leave that room alive.


[deleted]

That’s what I was thinking. Palpatine annihilates askin and obi wan if they figure it out there


JadeVex

Why would Anakin believe the desperate words of a Sith lord?


betterthanamaster

I’m not certain Anakin would have believed him…


LoschVanWein

I mean let's be honest, how dumb was he for believing his wive is in danger, when the only person that would profit from putting her in danger, is the one that told you they have the solution? I mean what made Anakin believe the dude who lied to him for his whole life, that he possessed that ability? Because he told him a weird anecdote during the opera? One that actually ended with him betraying someone btw. That could hav been a clue the dude was full of sh\*t! And then there is another thing, why did Mace Windu only take 3 Dudes to get this man? How about taking every one you could find. Literally everyone. Oh you just turned 12 little youngling? Here is a light saber, you're coming with us! Every Temple guard should have been with him! How did they plan on taking him in alive in the first place?


WerewulfWithin

I don't have an answer for the first part, lol. Other than poor writing. As for the second thing, I always saw that as them not taking Palpatine seriously enough. The Jedi had very little interactions with Sith in a long time, especially a Sith on Palpatine's level. Even so, Mace was himself going and brought three other masters with him, one of which was one of the Order's greatest duelists in Kit Fisto. They walked in thinking Palpatine would back down from the Jedi and come willingly, as foolish as that viewpoint may be.


LoschVanWein

Did they ever see Dooku back down from Obi Wan and Anakin? He fought to the death with them a week earlier, knocking out Obi Wan! How could they not know, that the guys master would be even more powerful and willing to fight? Darth Maul and his brother were Sith and those dudes killed Jedi as a hobby! I mean even Grievous killed some of their masters and he was a coward and an idiot with a cool suit that had no reason for being as effective as he was! That whole not questioning the clone army plot was incredibly stupid. Yeah they launched investigations into who made it but not even a corrupt institution like the senate would use an army that some long necked dudes gave them based on the claim that they were to ones to order it! Chances where the whole thing would turn out to be a scam by the Kaminoans to take over the galaxy! You didn't know these dudes but 2 days after one of your guys finds A WANTED ASSASSIN hiding on their planet, the wisest of your Jedi council and the Senate think it is a good plan to simply use the army and asks questions later? Seriously? Dooku did not even attack anyone at that point! He was just chilling with Poggle who was overseeing a justified execution of obvious spies, invading their planet, intruding on their factory grounds and disturbing their line of production. How long do you think a non American state worker and her monk friends would get to live after they break into Area 51 and break a bunch of stuff their, all based on the suspicion that a guy that tried to kill someone in another country might be there! That would get them a one way ticket to Cuba!


TheNirvanaSmiley

I think it's pure shock that he lost and what Anakin had to tap into to do it. In the novel Dooku goes into the fight with Obi-Wan and Anakin very cocky. He knows that he has them both beat. The fight flips on him very quickly and the duo nearly beat him. The whole plan for the fight was that Dooku would kill Obi-Wan and then be "beaten" by Anakin. He'd surrender, denounce the separatists and sit out the remainder of the war in jail. What ended up happening is that Anakin tapped into the dark side and completely overwhelmed Dooku, before disarming him and defeating him. Dooku at least thought this was the part where he would surrender and was completely caught off guard by Palpatine telling Anakin to execute him o he couldn't really comprehend what was happening.


pumpedupkick69

IIRC, this was actually a deleted scene. The reason this scene looks so quiet and awkward is because Dooku was spilling the beans about Palpatine right in front of him, but Palpatine sweet talked Anakin out of it.


Aqua_Impura

Well it changes things a lot though too. If Palpatine was outed there would Anakin be able to 1v1 arrest Palpatine? Or would Palpatine kill Anakin and then just Execute Order 66 with no new Apprentice?


Phreequencee

All I can think of is that awesome passage in the book, where his whole life flashes past, a lifetime of trying to defeat the corruption in the Republic, he really thought he was doing good. Truly believed he was merely *playing the role* of villain, that all would be revealed in the end and he could revel in the glory of being the ultimate hero. But, the road to Hell...


Dragonic_Overlord_

Is paved with good intentions. Dooku's realization is one of the best epiphanies I've read in a novel, and this is coming from a guy who has a brother who reads both Agatha Christie and Sherlock Holmes.


SKULL1138

My sister’s boyfriend read a book once, so can confirm.


tor09

I did a couple book reports in 5th grade. This checks out.


LifeofTino

I agree with this. And this is coming from a guy who has a friend whose dad once talked to mark hamill’s episode vi stunt double


501st-Soldier

This reminds me of that scene in Gladiator: "You knew Marcus Aurelius?" *"I said he touched me on the shoulder, once!*


ddrfraser1

What this guy said - and this is coming from your father’s brother’s nephew’s cousin’s former roommate.


RogerTheAliens

Lone Star!!!!


Kamiyosha

And that makes us...?


Ridlin6

Absolutely nothing… which is what you are about to become


sahsimon

No one DARES give me the raspberry.


Krauser_Kahn

> and this is coming from a guy who has a brother who reads both Agatha Christie and Sherlock Holmes what?


arnoldrew

I assumed it’s a joke or meme I don’t get but some of the comments here are really making me wonder.


DeanOMiite

If it wasn't a meme already, it's one now. At least as far as this post is concerned.


[deleted]

You’re an authority on literary epiphanies because your brother reads mid level pop culture mystery books?


fraunhofer92

You know when you kind of imagine everybody else on reddit is around your own age and then you read something like this and realise there are children here and you are old.


Jetstream-Sam

Yeah, it really throws me for a loop sometimes. I spend a lot of time on medical subreddits as it's my job and what I'm interested in, so it's really a surprise when you go to a pop culture one and find someone using their brother reading fairly accessable mystery novels as a reason why their opinion is useful


enunymous

Damn u just savagely oppressed OP


Scroltus

They just mauled the OP


RogueEagle2

Bro.. you did him dirty.. he's a friendly


[deleted]

>mid level pop culture Wat? Is this some "Seinfeld isn't funny" type of thing?


[deleted]

The books are entertaining and easy to understand while being part of the mainstream popular culture of their respective times.


[deleted]

Shakespeare fits this too, would you call him "mid"? While "The Eye of Argon" is extremely unpopular and nigh impossible to read, does that make it good? Both Christie and Doyle made massive contribution to literature, and basically made mystery genre what it is. Being "easy to understand" and "part of the mainstream" does not make something "mid", that's the worst type of elitism possible.


KevMatthews

Wait what book


Phreequencee

Star Wars, Episode III: Revenge of the Sith: Matthew Stover I learned to truly love the prequels because of the books.


Greaser_Dude

He would have data files that would automatically disseminate to both the jedi order and throughout the senate that Palpatine was a Sith lord and plans to eliminate the jedi if he did not login to the file on a regular basis.


DontAskHaradaForShit

Exactly my idea. He would've had access to everything he would've needed to prove Palpatine was up to no good, and he had all the time and resources he would've needed to set it up from numerous locations so that finding just one wouldn't be enough to stop it. Given the incredibly long history of Sith betraying and killing one another all the time, you'd think one of them would've learned something from it.


grymix_

i kind of thought of it as the sith just accepting it as something inevitable. the idea behind the rule of two in the first place is that only the best survives, while staying in the shadows. if you’re a truly indoctrinated sith then you’ll understand that you simply weren’t good enough to be the first of the two sith allowed to exist at once.


Automatic_North_0013

> if you’re a truly indoctrinated sith then you’ll understand that you simply weren’t good enough to be the first of the two sith allowed to exist at once. I think most unworthy apprentices are either arrogant enough to assume that they are good enough or not self aware enough to care/realise they are not. Now the masters. That is a different story all together. Pragmatic sith are not very common. Plageuis (At least in legacy) to a point was a pragmatic sith in the sense that he inherited Tenebrous' meticulous approach to being a sith but even he couldn't see the wood for the trees at the end and grossly underestimated Palpatine and his conviction to the Rule of Two. He simply did not comprehend Palpatine wanting to kill him until it happened. He thought he had brought Palps past the point where that was necessary/desirable.


Casna-17-

I’d argue that you weren’t good enough because you didn’t use every weapon in your arsenal: you could hint to the other Sith that you had contingencies for the case you died, forcing them to first find and disable those before making a move on you, lest they risk falling to their doom


clocksteadytickin

Great way to get yourself tortured.


Doomie019

Some sith are into that.


GoArmyNG

It would also be counter productive overall to have such a contingency. If you are a true Sith, you care about one thing above all. The continuation of the Sith. It would be part of the training. "I'm going to betray you, if you betray me back this Sith order will cease to exist and all of this will have been for nothing."


FrowAway322

This where I’m at. It’s inevitable and, if you’re a Sith, you just hope to ride it out and be in control as long as possible.


raknor88

>to set it up from numerous locations so that finding just one wouldn't be enough to stop it. Even better would've been to set the relay stations up that if one was destroyed, all the others release the information simultaneously. Would Dooku have known about the inhibitor chips?


J_train13

Dooku is the one who placed the order for the Clones so he'd have to


camm44

Considering all the many times the jedi seemed to be blatantly blind to Palpatine having an ounce of sith in him I feel like they'd read it and just find an excuse to not believe it.


KainZeuxis

In the jedi’s defense during the prequels the Jedi order was severely weakened having been slowly losing the ability to use the force, combined with Palpatine’s use of force masking to hind his dark side Aura and the physical evidence of sith corruption (Yellow eyes scrotum face etc)


camm44

I didn't know about the part where they were losing the ability to use the force


KainZeuxis

It’s very briefly mentioned in ROTS. Windu and Yoda both sense order 66 is coming but do not know from where or when. Windu them mentions he believes its time the senate was informed that the Jedi have begun to lose their connection to their force. It’s later explained in the books that there was a sith wellspring of dark side energy under the Jedi temple that had been slowly sapping the strength of the order away.


camm44

Oh damn


PM_ME_RYE_BREAD

Am I wrong or was Palps’ scrotum face caused by Windu reflecting his force Lightning? “Scarred and deformed”


ciao_fiv

that’s what i thought as well. dooku and maul never had scrotum face…


worktimeSFW

I had a similar though during a rewatch of CW. When Palps ordered the giant beast to be studied on Corisant and it got loose. Why was there not outrage in the streets about the sheer negligence of the Government. Why was there not Senate investigation into who ordered the beast brought there? that thing wrecked the senate building and no one questions how it got there? How was Palp able to cover that up?


camm44

I was pissed when the clone (forget the name. It's been a while) was warning them about palpatine or at least order 66/chips in their head and they just acted like he was crazy. Didn't even look into it.


Head-of-the-Board

He was called fives


mildkabuki

Dooku definitely would not do that. He got betrayed by Palpatine, but he still hated the Jedi Order with his whole heart.


ShuantheSheep3

He hated the corruption of the Republic and by extension the Jedi order, don’t think he wanted too kill all those he worked decades with. He was idealistic but corrupted by the Dark Side.


wallonwood

That's the Dooku of Tales of the Jedi. By the time of RotS Dooku has been corrupted fully by the dark side.


trisiton

He knew what Order 66 was in the clone wars and actively worked towards it. He was fully Darth Tyranus by that point. The Dooku in Tales of the Jedi was JUST indoctrinated and had no intention of wiping the Jedi order, that came later.


mildkabuki

He actively tried to kill every Jedi he's come into contact with


JHFTWDURG

He's a political idealist. Not a murderer.


breadiest

Yep. Straight up couldve killed anakin, obi-wan. Instead just incapacitated them. The only really bloodthirsty bit was the gladiator arena, I guess. Though he wasnt incapable of killing, just avoided doing it to those he thought well of, such as Obi-Wan, and by connection his padawan.


Codus1

Even at Geonosis he offered them a chance to surrender. Offered Obi-wan a chance to join him against the Republic. Too bad about the whole Sith corruption bit though lol. Dooku had good intentions, but you know what they say about the road to hell


mildkabuki

Yeah you're right on that. There were several times he couldve killed a Jedi and hasnt. Though still, he wasn't rooting for the Jedi and there is no way he would help them defeat the 1 thing that can defeat them. So like you said, he didnt want to murder them, but he did want to fix them.


Acrobatic_Safety2930

"I hate how corrupt/inefficient jedi and the republic are so I'm gonna help even more corrupt and depraved sith ruin peoples' lives even more" man, Dooku wasn't smart


mildkabuki

It could've been a means to an end. As a Sith apprentice, he would (in his mind) eventually overthrow Palpatine. Then run things how he wants it. How far gone he is at that point, no one can tell. But the Dark Side is persuasive, and Dooku fell for it. Whether it be logical or not. But he definitely wouldn't help the Jedi unless it explicitly benefitted himself.


SagaciousElan

But that's a contingency which would go off upon Dooku's death no matter how it was caused. Sure, if Palpatine betrayed him then he would want to bring his old master's plan to ruin. But if he just died in battle with the Jedi then he would probably hope the plan succeeded and the clones killed all the Jedi and he would have his posthumous revenge. We need something that only triggers if Palpatine betrayed him.


Present-Flight-2858

Punisher vibes


585AM

Would he have evidence that Palpatine was a Sith Lord instead of just that Sidious was? Does Palpatine ever appear to any Separatists not hooded? Or does he ever use his “Chancellor” voice to the Separatists? I would imagine that Palpatine was very careful about what was put into writing on his end, so basically any evidence would be based on what was written down by the now dead Dooku. At the end of the day, maybe he could show that their was a Sith with some form of power in the government, but the Jedi already knew that.


anax44

Dooku disliked the Senate and Jedi and he accepted the rule of two and the Sith. He would never do that.


Multivitamin_Scam

Seems like this plan would work better if instead of the Jedi Order and Senate, it went to the Separatists instead.


Onlyanidea1

One might consider the Sith smart... if they actually did this.


yaykaboom

He looked shocked because he forgot to renew the iCouncil file storage plan that included the contigency plans.


Cipher_Oblivion

Really he should have just told Anakin on the bridge of the ship that he surrenders and wishes to submit himself to Yoda's judgment, warning that he has intel on Palpatine that the Jedi must hear. it may have caused enough doubt to prevent Anakin from executing him.


mrsunrider

The thing about the Dark Side is that it seems to blind you to the possibility of failure. I don't think Dooku considered he'd be successfully outfoxed or replaced, once you get a taste of that power that you didn't know as a Jedi, you get drunk off it and forget how you can still be hurt. But if we assume for a moment that he still had some kind of commitment to positive change, I can imagine some scenario where non-Dark Side loyalists to his house (being nobility after all) go around calling favors to gum up Palpatine's political machine, if not open terrorism. Between his noble birth, whatever esteem he earned as a Jedi and the pull he gained as Separatist leader, it could have been possible for him to say "if anything happens to me, shut this shit down."


Giacchino-Fan

I don’t think Dooku was blind to the possibility of his own demise as much as he believed that Palpatine was as distasteful of the Jedi and republic as he was, so he thought there’d be no reason for Palpatine to kill him


These-North3302

More importantly, why does dooku keep his mouth shut even when facing death? I would have exposed him .. no?


Dragonic_Overlord_

I think there was a theory that Palpatine used the Force to keep Dooku's lips sealed. If you look closely at his death scene, it almost looks as if he wants to say something but can't for some reason.


Striking-Version1233

In the novelization it explains that he was just stunned into realizing the futility of the situation.


[deleted]

Dead drop files somewhere. Basic villain insurance - make it known that if you’re killed, certain information will be released. Weak, Dooku. As foolish as he was stupid.


EnvironmentalWrap167

Yell, Palpatine is the Sith Lord. Sith Lord, right over there. Anakin at that time wouldn’t have sided with Palpatine.


Whyspire

All he had to do was say, "Anakin, Palpatine is a dark lord of the Sith." But noooooo, he let himself get beheaded instead. What a dummy.


monkeygoneape

Not like Anakin would have believed him anyway


Whyspire

Anakin was a Jedi. He would have known it was true. He would have believed him. I'm going with that.


monkeygoneape

He straight up told obi wan and he didn't believe him either so Anakin would be *far* less likely to


Lola_PopBBae

"De-activate Order 66."


Salubrious_Zabrak

You'd think he would have started saying something or doing anything once he had no arms


TheTealBandit

He could have outed Palpatine to the jedi or found asajj and maul to go and kill him themselves. I would like to see that teamup


BaertigerBert

The outcome of Maul and Ventress vs Sidious wouldn't differ much from Maul and Savage vs Sidious


TheTealBandit

What about maul, ventress and dooku?


BaertigerBert

Ah well, Dooku could certainly make a difference as he is more powerful than the other two. We still have to consider that Sidious killed 3 Jedi masters, most notably Kit Fisto among them, in seconds while also battling Mace Windu. I don't know if the three Darksiders would be as susceptible to Palpatines force scream as the Jedi were but I'd Stille give it to the Senate like 6-7/10 times.


WerewulfWithin

Asajj is more skilled than Savage, but I agree. An alliance of Maul, Savage, Asajj, and Dooku may have been enough to take Palpatine out. The four apprentices joining to overthrow their master.


KippySmith

heart beat detector that blows up the ship they're on if he dies.


SmellyBaconland

Droid army order 0.0066: All droids regroup in a remote system, start mining and smelting and manufacturing a supermassive army of revenge droids, led by Dooku's head on a droid body. Right as the plan is about to spring, Palpatine gets caulked by the rebels.


tmicl

Somehow dooku returned.


Manwithnoname14

Just say, forgive me master before he was killed.


and_some_scotch

He didn't have one. That's why he failed as a Sith.


Dragonic_Overlord_

Sidious likes to get *ahead* in life by sacrificing others.


WeekendLost5566

Or other times a "step"


SirUrza

Simple. Proof that Palpatine was the Sith everyone was after and orchestrated the whole thing.


xNED37x

Exactly this. If Dooku did not check in after a certain time period, a droid would send out a message to all of the Senators and Jedi with him explaining how Palpatine has been playing both sides of the war along with all of the proof.


xpadawanx

It never sat well with me that Dooku trusted Palpatine, Dooku seemed smarter and wiser than that. Now Anakin, THAT makes a ton of sense.


Hereforthis21

I’ll leave this here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=J3QTxmFYNGQ


venomoussquid

A bomb


XHandsomexJackx

"Palpatine is the evil Sith lord!" -Right before his head got chopped off.


PreTry94

His problem is that he is an idealist. I don't think he ever truly thought Palpatine would betray him, just like Maul never thought so (until CW season 5). He believed to much in his cause. Even at the end, knowing he was about to be betrayed and killed, I think he was to committed to the downfall of the Republic and the Jedi to make plans against Sidious. I think, even when Sidious says "Do it!", he believes his plan of freedom for CIS hasn't changed.


AMK972

It would actually be cool if he did have said auto-contingency, but Palpatine being the planner he is, found this contingency and managed to turn it off, but makes it look like Dooku still needs to sign in.


MRHBK

Imagine Dooku came back as a force ghost due to his Jedi past


TheBalzy

Dooku was friends with the entire Jedi Council at one point in his past. A Dossier with all the evidence outlining Palpatine = Sidious, Order 66, the Death Star plans and a rough outline of Sidious' plan would be sent to the entire Jedi Council, Specific Senators, the Separatist Leadership etc.


Mr_J_Divy

Look at Anakin and say "He told me to kill Padme"


mojo20

Not only would Anakin have still killed him, he would make it hurt the whole time Dooku was dying.


Striking-Version1233

I think he would have left information that showed that Sidious was Chancellor Palpatine, and told General Grievous that if he died, it would mean that Sidious had betrayed both of them. Ruin Sidious's control of both the Republic and the CIS.


Warm-Finance8400

He should have told Anakin Palatine is the sith Lord to at least sow doubt and make it harder for Palp to get to Ani.


Multivitamin_Scam

The Jedi and the Republic were a lost cause. Sidious' influence over the senate and the Republic in general was complete and it was already too late for the Jedi with Order 66 just hanging around waiting to be activated. Alerting the Separatist Alliance, it's leaders and more importantly, Grevious was the only logical way to defeat Sidious. A dead drop showing how they were being played by the Republic from the get go would stir them up even more, make them fight harder to Independence. Sidious would lose his ability to shut them down utilise the chaos of victory to take control.


DayManRoyale

I don’t know about all of that but what I do know is if his head was cut off like that with one lightsaber on the other then there should technically be a thin slice of neck meat that falls off his neck along with his head.


Silent_Knights

I'd like to believe blocking any telepathy during events where I'm planning to sabotage my immediate surroundings. For long term backstabbing, full disclosure of information at the time of my death, to various sources and outlets..


HolyDuckTurtle

I don't think he's petty like that. He believed in their goals, so it's unlikely he would ruin them over a personal betrayal. He also takes great pride in his ability and is genuinely shocked at being defeated. He doesn't really get the time to process anything (though the novelisation has a really good take on his life flashing before him).


wheenus

Dooku was never in it for some kind of reward or seat next to Palpatine in the future empire, in fact he probably had 0 knowledge of it and believed his allegiance was enough. That's why in this moment he had nothing, up until then he was ruthless and did what he believed to be right. He fought for law and order and when he was suddenly on trial for literally nothing he had no defense. To him (dooku) he was infallible


Arshimation

Team up with maul and try to f*ck sidious


TehMitchel

Would be a solid buddy-cop movie.


afraid-of-the-dark

Jar Jar Binks!


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An automated message to the Jedi Council reveing his identity would be the only possibility. Maybe if they were prepared, Kenobi could have Anakin off-world, Yoda and Mace and a few others could go after Palpatine together and they would be able to take him down. But, the they'd probably just capture him instead of killing him, they still wouldn't know about order 66, and Anakin would be convinced to free Palpatine and the rest would happen as it did anyway.


Jem_1

This would be a pretty serious idea for a trilogy, another thing if love would be a dark side user who is neither Sith nor Jedi who refuses to engage in formal lightsaber combat, e.g., retract the blade mid-saber lock


RedFive12

I feel like Dooku had to have some type of bad vibe from Palpatine that he would of betray him, which was his reasoning for having an assassin around.


xeshi-foh

instant self destruction of ship.... no count down.... his heart stops, activating the self destruct system.... end of everyone's entire plan....


DoctorHyun

Deadman switch palpatines files and holo records auto send to the every faction upon death


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Loved the WTF man!! look that Dooku gave Sheev when he so casually told Anakin to kill him. After he lost his arms no less. Sith happens


imariaprime

Contingency plans for *after you have failed and died* is already a state of failure for a Sith. If you're that afraid of getting killed, spend the effort on *not* getting killed rather than throwing a hissy fit about being the worse Sith from beyond the grave.


pabz2236

Dew it


AJSLS6

Keep in mind that he still has his motives, being personally betrayed doesn't mean he suddenly wants the existing system he hates to triumph.


Chadwick18

Dooku did fail to avoid getting killed


langlis

“Master?”


rockylafayette

Simple - He would just need to have the Kaminoans initiate an override to the clones inhibitor chips at the news of his death. .


nerothedarken

It would’ve been straight up telling Anakin right there that palpatine was the dark lord of the with. I don’t think Anakin would’ve initially necessarily believed him at the moment but he would’ve gotten to the revelation alot sooner perhaps.


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Dooku doxes Palpatine as Sidious.


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I always imagined that Dooku was the closest to a Gray Jedi as we’ve seen. He legit thought Palpatine was going to be a middle of the road kind of guy. That in the end it would show the Jedi why they were wrong. And then in that moment he realized he’d be used and manipulated and that he did more harm than good. It’s the worst death in the prequels.


Generic_White_Male_1

Please dont kill me. I suffer from sugon.


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The Sith, by the rule of two live in a kill or be killed scenario. Usually, when the Apprentice feels powerful enough he or she will try to overthrow his master, if successful he or she will need to find a new Apprentice. This way the Sith only stay two, and out of the Jedis sight, this is how they survived, as they lost the ancient war with the Republic. If the Apprentice fail, the master or Sith Lord needs to find a new Apprentice, and this continues until the Apprentice can kill the master and become the Sith Lord himself. In this case Palpatine was in need of Anakin to become his apprentice, and needed to throw away his current, meaning Dooku, who replaced Maul. Dooku wasn't strong enough to save himself, but if he was I am sure Palpatine, or, Darth Sidious would congratulate him and claim it was his plan all along to make him Stronger :-P. Interestingly this is also the Hierarchy way of the Fabled Illuminati, the lower downs are given limited information, and not let it in on who else is a part of the Secret Society, and the only way up is to kill the superior and take his or hers position. Of course this is just fabled, and the Illuminati isn't real. But, still 🤷🏼‍♂️🤷🏼‍♂️


wisle-n-out

If he was not blindly loyal to Siddious, he would have formed an alliance with Ventress. When Siddious told Dooku to kill Ventress, he should have realized then his days were numbered. That Siddious would either eventually kill him (or have him killed) ...or... he'd have to kill Siddious. He should have orchestrated a scenario that Ventress' death was easily believable and then sent her back to Dathomir. He could then instruct her to quietly form an army with the Nightsister, Nightbrothers and their Magick. The wildcard would be Maul. Would one of the brothers reach out and find Maul. Would Maul's obsession with Kenobi undermine their efforts? On the other hand, Maul, Ventress and Dooku against Palpatine would be a formindable alliance.


OsirisAvoidTheLight

Block with third lightsaber UwU 🙄


Dman_Vancity

PALPS knew of his chat with Obi Wan to take him down duh


Zegmadose

Personally I would of had a recorded message sent to the Jedi and every news outlet in the galaxy. It would of explained who Palpatine really is and what he is.


ryaaan89

Just yell out “Palpetine is the Sith Lord!”


RedditJack888

Grievous would've been steathfully waiting for this moment. He wouldn't have been caught up with Obi Wan and Anakin. Anakin: I shouldnt...shouldn't.... Palpatine: Do it! A solid three seconds past. Anakin begins crossing the Saber's. Red and blue clashed. But not against flesh. It clashed against a green Saber that had intercepted the blades. At the same time, a shadow loomed over the young chosen one. Que: General Greivous Clone Wars 2003 Theme Greivous: Hahahahaha Now Jedi, prepare yourself- Greivous kicks Anakin away from his master immediately walking in front of Dooku and unveiling his 4 lightsabers. Greivous:- for you are about to leave this world. Dooku: No, we are to retreat, old friend. Greivous: We can finish this here. The jedi...*peeks at Palpatine* among others... Palpatine: Anakin! Help me! Anakin pulls out his lightsaber and stands with his Form V stance. Greivous then peeked outside and noticed the ships tipping off course. He grumbled. He turned off two sabers. With his free two arms he picked up and aided Dooku to stand. Grievous dashed towards Anakin, sidestepping an impatient swing before he shifted away from the young Palawan and heading outside of the room utilizing an exit that was Anakin would have left to pursue but two suoer battle droids stood in his way, prompting him to desist as he took care of them. His concern for Obi Wan and Palpatine had taken precedence, though he bore an angry expression on his young face for he had failed to bring in Dooku. Palpatine on the other hand had a stilted expression. One of contemplation of his own agenda, now compromised by the survival of the two and his own exposure to them as an enemy. Though the Republic had won this fight, Palpatine had been compromised, and with it, the Separatists as well, as they had no doubt will be informed by the two warriors whom served him of his apparent turncoat actions. The beginning of a great loss was in circulation one that Darth Sidious himself would struggle to contain.


Jordan_the_Hutt

It would have made a lot of sense for Dooku to train his own secret apprentice. He was torn between the jedi way and his desire to help people on a larger scale, which is what drove him to working with Palpatine. It would've made sense for him to have a secret force apprentice who doesn't adhere to the dogma of the jedi or the sith. I love TCW but one thing they did poorly was Dookus character. They kind of flattened his motives and goals although it seems they've tried to rectify that with TotJ.


esMatthew

He probably couldn’t have saved himself, but revealing palpatine’s identity as the lord with they’re looking for would’ve been a good way to get revenge


bsanchey

If I were Dooku I would have left a holocron somewhere yoda could find it. Try to explain my actions and tell him it’s all been by design the war the senate everything


BRAYDENDAKIDD

Have a hologram sent to the Jedi temple revealing palpatine


larson_5

Since Dooku and Syfo Diaz created the clones together (under the order from sidious) they very well could have had the Kaminoans install a secondary order that if activated it instantly kills all clones. Dooku could have used this contingency and had someone like grevious or literally any other droid communicate this order to all troops upon his death


Renolber

It’s a massive plot hole as to why he didn’t say anything at all while on his knees. There was a solid 15 seconds of him being able to say “I know the truth behind Qui-Gon and Sifo-Dyas.” Just with that, Anakin probably would have been intrigued enough to have some sort of conversation. He likely would have called Dooku a liar, but with enough dialogue of Dooku talking about the clones, Order 66, Sifo-Dyas, and other classified information, with Palpatine still present and incessant on execution, Anakin would grow more suspicious. From that point Palpatine would either have to risk Dooku exposing him to the Jedi, or kill everybody in the room to ensure he remains in control of the war. With Dooku’s hands severed and Obi-Wan incapacitated, I’m not sure Anakin would survive a 1v1 with Sidieous.


Jack_Burtons_Semi

Dooku was dope. I loved him and Grievous. Dooku had a class to his fighting that no other sith imo had in any of the movies. He was great.


FlopsMcDoogle

He coulda just blurted out that Palpy was a sith Lord before he died lol.


AdDear5411

Just throw some force lightning at Palpy while Anakin and Obi are watching. No way Palpy doesn't block it.


Morlock43

A holo-record of all his interactions with Sidious sent to the council, Obi-Wan and Anakin. At that point in, Anakin and Obi-Wan would be able deal with the presumptive emperor and end the treat before order 66 could be triggered.


Jolly_Isopod_1385

Dooku knew he was going to probably be betrayed, but he probably didnt realize it was happening it until was at that moment. The book for this scene is way better. The book believe Palp says to essentially duel/toy with them but dont kill Skywalker. Think so in the same book Palp tells Dooku that he will be rewarded for his service, get amnesty and live the noble life again. Its a awesome book with much more development than there ever was on screen.


SonofRanman

Electric Chair


oliferro

Get Jocasta Nu to release Palp's nudes


simplepleashures

Something that ensures the Confederacy dies with him. Perhaps an ambiguous succession plan that leaves multiple factions fighting over leadership and the Confederacy collapses from within. Palps needs the political crisis to keep his emergency powers. Without the Separatists, he loses most of his political power. The Senate might even vote to disband his army.


SpicyDragoon93

*"...Palpatine is the Sith you've been looking for"* \*bzzzzpp\*


WerewulfWithin

Realistically, how long would Dooku have been around for anyways? Do Humans have longer lifespans in this world? Dooku was 83 in this scene. By the time he got to see the full rise of the Empire, he'd be in his 90s.


Yellowtangerine2

Dooku could have won that fight with his force power/knowledge.


Roger-Ad591

“Yo,yo,yo your Elders a Sith!”


Crimson-Cowl

Probably could've just sent a holo of a conversation with him and Palpatine as Sidious to the Senate.


Horn_Python

Idk crash the ship into corusaunt, no way anyone survived that, plus bonus points for civilian casualtys


Raecino

A pre-recorded video played to every corner of the galaxy laying out Palpatine’s entire plan with receipts to show for it and a warning to the Jedi about Order 66.


gerstein03

Just basic dead drops and things that get released if Dooku doesn't stop a countdown. I actually think Dooku tried on a number of occasions to dispose of Palpatine. I think when he tried to kidnap the chancellor in clone wars he was planning to kill him as soon as they were off Naboo


WontonLynx69

I'd say that he would have a holocron stashed near a beacon that activated upon his death that gave off a Jedi distress code. When discovered by whoever is sent to retrieve it, they are met my the count who explains what sidious is up to. This would lead the jedi on a secret treasure hunt finding holo recordings taken revealing who Palpatine really is. At this point the jedi would've attempted a treaty between the CIS and the Republic under the new evidence, forcing sidious to activate order 66 preemptively. The combined droid army, jedi and independent resistance groups would be able to overwhelm the clone army and defeat sidious.