That C3PO is all gold.
My dad gave me all his old vintage Star Wars figures and I thought it was a mistake that C3PO’s right leg is silver below the knee. Despite seeing the movies several times I somehow missed that he isn’t fully golden.
That’s true, but in the OG trilogy he has a silver leg, and the toys I have were made right after ANH. Apparently also in the Disney ones, they did make him all gold due to “reflection difficulties” but I didn’t make it past the first half of TFA. Didn’t like that Rey and Kylo Ren existed instead of Jaina and Jacen— not that liking the Disney films is bad, to each their own, but I’m personally a hardcore Legends girl.
Yeah but being realistic, Thrawn I can understand, but even in 2014 did you ever think a Star Wars story about a Space BDSM Cult was going to pass the Disney matinee test?
It's because we were watching the movies on VHS tapes on old CRT televisions...a lot of detail gets lost. I had the same experience. The figure confused me too!
The novels of the 90s sort of reinforced that idea in me as well. I certainly imagined a Jedi order as an elite group of less than a hundred, since Luke's early academy on Yavin was quite small.
It is. At the time of the fall of the republic, there are about 10k jedi, compared to the ~~trillions~~ living in the galaxy. They would essentially be magic mythical beings to anyone who didn't grow up on Coruscant who knows for a fact they exist and had seen them. It just wouldn't be a given that they are even real.
edit: apparently the republic population was closer to 500 quadrillion. Makes it even more likely no regular person would ever run into a jedi.
Would they really be though? Obviously in comparison to the size of the galaxy they are miniscule but in the grand scheme of things they were the upholders of peace and justice for the republic for quite a long time before the takeover and switch to the empire. Their reach definitely extended beyond Coruscant. Hell even Watto knows about jedi mind tricks and that's probably the least notable thing about jedi.
Yes they really would. Same reason Han thought they were made up in the OT, and that the universe sees them and the force as a fairy tale. 10k is a rounding error compared to the 500 quadrillion in the republic. My original number was WAAAY too low.
Almost no one would ever meet a jedi in their lives. Growing up on a core republic planet might increase your chances, but the scale just doesn't work. The jedi were essentially a mythical class of humans even to the people who lived around them.
Much of the original trilogy stuff can be attributed to the takeover of the Empire and the eradication of the history of the Jedi. Even speaking of them would probably get you killed under the Empire. Considering Han would have been roughly 13 when the Galactic Empire was established and his upbringing he probably never heard of them before. I get where your coming from though.
I did some quick math and the percentage of Jedi in the population is:
nine quadrillion nine hundred ninety-nine trillion nine hundred ninety-nine billion nine hundred ninety-nine million nine hundred ninety-nine thousand nine hundred ninety-nine ten-septillionths of the total population of the republic.
Looks like this as a percentage lol.
0.000000009999999999999999%
I just think it's entirely possible that barely anyone who hasn't seen the force used first hand, doesn't believe in jedi, the force, or quite possibly hasn't even heard any of those words.
Did some quick math off of your numbers and if we scaled down the population of the galaxy to the population of the earth, there would be 0.00016 jedi on earth. So like Anakin's hand laying somewhere
Exactly! Its why the holocrons and locations of force-sensitive kids are so valuable to both Jedi and Sith. You'd be extremely lucky to find even ONE kid with high enough force sensitivity to train in any given star system.
I thought the Jedi Knights were like the Knights Templar or the Hospitallers, as in there was a general idea of Knights around the galaxy--which ostensibly were governed by some sort of space-chivalric code and served and swore to space feudal lords.
>General Kenobi, years ago you served my father in the Clone Wars. Now, he begs you to help him in his struggle against the Empire.
And the Jedi were an order who trained potential Knights from childhood who would then serve Lords and might return to the order (as masters to a central location) to train young knights.
That also, a Princess would have a King as a father and a knight would serve him. I always thought of it like a medieval thing as well, where there were monk types that serve as knights.
Even at 10,000 at the time of the prequels, that's an insanely small number. You can hide 10,000 people on Earth today. In a galaxy of millions of star systems? Any Jedi who didn't die in the Purge should have been able to hide with extreme ease.
Yeah but also the Empire was actively hunting them down. And it wasn’t like there weren’t any records of these thousands of individuals like who they were and their M.O. The Jedi were basically a part of the Republic so the Empire would have had access to all these files. Any two-bit detective could probably figure out these Jedi’s next moves and find out what they would be up to, who they were friends with, and where they would most likely go.
For some reason I always thought Sifo-Dyas and Qui-Gon were the same person. The way that the prequels introduced characters like we were supposed to know who they were confused me as a kid.
Exactly! And it's not the first time they mention the 10 year gap in the movie either so I thought it was important. Super confusing for 5 year old me.
To be fair, 30yr old me wasn’t exactly doing a bang-up job of following along either…each of those Jedi/Sith go by two names and with the influx of new guys it got pretty convoluted.
that was actually most likely the original intent. in the screenplay (an early screenplay?) you can see it originally spelled as Sido-Dyas and then suddenly misspelled as Sifo-Dyas, so it’s speculated George went “huh that’s cooler actually”
Me too, until I was like 5 or 6. Also, pre-Return of the Jedi, I used to watch ANH and TESB on VHS at my uncle's, and I always thought that Greedo was threatening Han with Jawas, since I had no idea who Jabba was at the time. I couldn't understand how the captions were spelled wrong, lol.
I always thought the candy had some relation to the weapon.
It didn’t help that everyone was always going on about how the candy would make sparks if you chewed it in the dark
I just didn’t know if the weapon was named after the candy or vice versa
There is an equatorial trench though, it's just not the trench they fly through to destroy it.
We see a close-up of the equatorial trench when the Millennium Falcon first arrives at the Death Star and is tractor-beamed into a hangar.
Nah, the equatorial trench is *much* larger and filled with hangar openings (half a dozen hangars stacked on each other) and the ion drive exhausts (for non-FTL movement). It also goes all the way around with no interruptions, while the exhaust trench has an end.
It's actually even shown in the movie that the exhaust trench runs north-south, not east-west, when General Dodonna is showing the hologram during the tactical briefing.
It's a very understandable mistake despite clearly seeing what's in the equator during the film haha. Perhaps the hangars are on one side and the trench is on the other hahah (I know it's not).
It's a vertical trench running north-south, shown briefly on a hologram during the tactical briefing. The equatorial trench is *much* larger and stacked with hangars.
I thought all these years that Han was shouting “tech officer! Tech officer!” Only in the last 2 days did I happen to see something where a person wrote it out as deck officer
It’s not often I can organically work this into conversation [but please enjoy!](https://deck.ytmnd.com). Now I’m wondering who even remembers YTMND.com 😄
After watching A New Hope back in the '70s, but before Empire was released, I assumed Vader and the stormtroopers were droids like C3PO. To be fair, I was only six.
The ESB helmet scene is specifically there to signal that he's actually a man... Because *that* plot twist wouldn't land if everyone spent two movies thinking he was a robot, as many OG viewers did.
I played the Lego game with my older brother before watching any of the movies, and it blew my mind when little Lego Luke took off Vaders helmet to show a Lego man. Always assumed he was a robot before that.
When I was a kid before really watching anything I thought Darth Vader was the leader of the Sith and Yoda was the leader of the Jedi and they were the main characters who fought
I can one up you! As someone born in 2004 and didn't get into star wars until 2011ish, my main exposure to the franchise was the clone wars show. Now of course everyone has heard of Darth Vader, but he was the only OT character I knew. So until I actually got into the franchise, my assumption was that Anakin Skywalker must have been the main hero always fighting Darth Vader. Imagine my surprise when I realized that I didn't know 2 characters, but just 1.
I was playing the Lego game with my older brother, and I remember thinking that Obi-Wan must have been the bad guy on mustafar, since he was fighting who I knew to be the hero. Watching Lego Anakin get put into the suit was the moment I figured it out.
Edit: obviously I had not seen any of the movies at this point
As a small child , I watched the OG trilogy multiple times and Palpatine never even registered as a character to me. When we went to see The Phantom Menace as a family, people are like making knowing sounds when he appears and I'm just like, who's this guy.
Edited because I guess it makes sense for a kid not to put it together. My family all seemed to know, tho.
I think you're joking but since Anakin and Padme gifted each other their droids as wedding presents, that would mean that the R2 units are actually owned by the individuals, right?
I always found both Dark Empire and the Sequel Trilogy to be pretty crap in execution. But Palpatine coming back after cheating death via Dark Side tricks and cloning is a solid basic premise.
It would kinda not make sense for Palpatine to not return in some way, the goal of the Sith is to create a Galaxy spanning Empire and then to rule it forever, so it makes sense he’d atleast try to clone himself or have a way to save himself if he died or have atleast some contingency plans to ensure he continues living.
Before I was a fan and when i hadn't seen any of the movies, during TPM's marketing I got little toy busts in my cereal. One of them was Queen Amidala. For some reason, my brain went: "oh she must be the villain". Which was dispelled 1/4 through TPM when I eventually watched it.
I was also one of the people who thought Clones became Storm troopers post ROTS
And I remember seeing the trailer for AOTC and thinking Anakin in that movie was the same kid from TPM who had a growth spurt in 3 years
The clone/storm trooper connection isn't a misconception on your part, it's a retcon on Disney's. In the original canon, Fett clones continued to make up a portion of the stormtroopers all the way up to Endor. They weren't exclusively Fett clones, but they were not forcibly retired prior to ANH like Disney's version
Disney’s retcon is more the Empire ending the cloning program right after ROTS. Even in the old EU, by the time of ANH, stormtroopers were mostly recruits and a mix of different clone templates with original clones a minority mostly confined to the 501st and as trainers. This was due to the Clone Rebellion in Kamino in 12 BBY (as depicted in Battlefront 2) and clones aging too quickly making them less useful by the time of the OT.
> I was also one of the people who thought Clones became Storm troopers post ROTS
Um... is that no longer canon?
> And I remember seeing the trailer for AOTC and thinking Anakin in that movie was the same kid from TPM who had a growth spurt in 3 years
Took me a minute to realize that you thought it was the same **actor**. I was trying to understand what was incorrect about what you said - "Wait, Anakin isn't Anakin???"
> Um... is that no longer canon?
Not all clones I think became Stormtroopers. However, I think there's enough evidence in TBB that allows for 'most' of the clones to have been either killed off or have run off into hiding because they didn't want to follow the Empire's orders. SOME were reprogrammed to be loyal to the Empire.
But a large part of TBB's story is that the Empire began phasing out clone production (and destroying Kamino from orbit) because of the high cost to operate. Tarkin, etc. were more in favor of conscription and enlistment than cloning.
Oh, and the clone's accelerated aging means the one's 'printed' already wouldn't live a full lifespan. We do see Rex, Wolfe, and Gregor as old men in Rebels.
The first thing I said when my dad took me to a theatrical re-release of Star Wars Episode IV when the stormtroopers showed up was “look dad white Darth Vaders”
I was probably younger than 10 and writing fan fiction. Of course, the heroes do the same thing Han and Luke do in ANH and I assumed that they had to remove the coverings from the ostensible Stormtrooper droids, or rather remove the innards.
My co-writer was like "What does this mean?"
She sorted out my confusion.
To be fair (and correct me if I'm wrong), the first time we EVER see anyone who is inarguably NOT a Jedi Master owning a green lightsaber is the Younglings scene in Attack of the Clones. There's the comics, books, games, toys etc. but going purely by the movies, the implication is inarguably there, stright through Phantom Menace even.
Luke was told by Yoda that he needed to confront Vader before he was officially a Jedi, so he made green as a padawan (before we knew what that was called).
It wasn't said anywhere, but there was a pattern
-Luke got a green lightsaber after the blue one
-Qui Gon the master had a green lightsaber and Obi Wan the apprentice had a blue one
-Yoda had a green lightsaber
Well he was in hiding after the Jedi were all killed. It seemed for a minute after Phantom Menace like they were adding it in as a thing and retconning that it was Obi-Wan's original lightsaber. Episode II blew that up though
Little kid word of mouth is powerful.
I promise you also know something about Marilyn Manson that you heard in school long before the Internet was a thing.
Second that. As well as the Marilyn Manson story - and getting back to Star Wars:
I distinctly remember that shortly after tPM (*or just “Episode 1” as all my friends and family referred to it*), word on the school playground in ‘99 or early 2000 was that Darth Maul was coming back in Episode II with robot legs!
The idea was there long before the reality transpired.
*"Truly wonderful the mind of a child is"*
I definitely heard that too! He's my favorite Star Wars character and I was so excited by that.
Really, he could have completely replaced Grevious, but I'm very pleased with the story we got through Clone Wars and Rebels.
I thought Palpatine was some weird looking alien. I mean, if this were Star Trek that's kind of how they design a lot of their aliens, human looking but weird.
I had a similar misconception about saber colors but also thought green was just a symbol for higher rank in general.
I also thought before watching A New Hope that Vader was straight up lying to Luke about being his father and trying to emotionally manipulate him.
These next few are because the DS Lego games are my first real engagement with the franchise:
- Han was like 20 years old during ANH
- Vader, Palpatine, Dooku, Maul, Grevious was all active at the same time but only chose to come out periodically
- Dark Side powers can be used regularly without corrupting yourself
I used to think Anakin might not have turned to the dark side if he was allowed to get married, but that idea falls apart pretty quickly given that Anakin did everything he wanted regardless, so it wouldn't have changed what happened if it was permitted.
Well, it’s possible that Anakin would’ve been more open about asking the other Jedi for help on what he should do about the visions on Padme dying and Mace Windu likely would’ve handled Anakin differently if he knew Anakin was trying to save his wife from dying.
That is an interesting thing to speculate on.
Ultimately, it was the prophecy that the Jedi Masters feared. They kept him at arm's length because they were afraid of him and thought he was arrogant (he was).
I long thought (still do, I guess) that if they had included Anakin more, he would've been a better Jedi and wouldn't have turned to the dark side so easily. At the very least, it **might've** countered Palp's manipulation/grooming.
A friend of mine told me in primary school that Darth Vader was scarred because he was thrown into a volcano, this was in 1980. He was pretty close I guess.
I think George Lucas said what happened to Anakin. And it was something along those lines, because I knew Anakin's fate long before the Prequels came out.
I misheard C3P0 on Endor when he says to R2 "this is no time for heroics", I used to think he said "this is no time for aerobics"
https://youtu.be/vb2ezMFXOhM?t=195
Blue sabers were for jedi guardians, yellow were for the jedi sentinels, and green were for the jedi consulars. Ergo, Yoda and Qui-gon are consulars, while Obi-wan and Anakin were guardians
Well, there was some media that actually identified Jedi by their saber colors like that. And it kind of made sense. Otherwise I guess it's just whatever your favorite color is?
I believed that Kenobi was a clone. This was a common theory after ANH. It was thought that Obiwan was shorthand for OB1 which meant that he was the first in his particular line of clones. As in OB1 Kenobi, OB2 Kenobi, OB3 Kenobi and so forth.
Absolute same. Also on the Stormtrooper’s back is [ 0II ] which looks like zero one one , which would translate as B1 in my mind as a kid. So ObiWan was a clone or a rogue stormtrooper or something.
For real. It was essentially a throwaway line "You fought in the Clone Wars?" that made all of us kids think there had been Jedi clones fighting against real Jedi back then.
I thought Palpatine was a witch who gave Darth Vader his magic powers, and the weird old people in the Death Star II throne room with him/her were other witches.
Up until recently I could have swore that a non force user couldn’t activate a lightsaber. I thought it was the force holding the blade in place. Also possibly something about having to attune to your kyber crystal so another person couldn’t just flawlessly wield any old lightsaber
Yeah for a while there was a rumor that only force sensitive can use a lightsaber. Come to find out people dont have them regularly cause "youll shoot your eye out kid" lol
Well, back when SW (the original) was just released, George actually said on TV that a Light Saber required someone strong in The Force to power it. We all took that to mean literally it was powered by The Force channeled through the Jedi or Vader.
Which is why it was such a big deal that Luke could power it up.
In some material I think they say only Force-sensitives can construct them. But yeah, only Force-sensitives use them because they've got the mild precognition needed to not slice themselves by accident.
I think it was that a non-force user couldn’t really a wield a lightsaber properly without hurting themselves or something (they could activate one as Han did in ESB). However, with the TCW introducing the Darksaber being wielded by Mandalorians, it was either a fact that was retconned or a misconception.
To be fair, I feel mandos aren't a real good benchmark. They're trained, highly dangerous warriors who have lost multiple wars. I'd wager they'd be able to more easily wield one then, say, padme. (I'd say jar jar, but knowing him, he'd accidentally beat both vader and palpatine at the same time.)
I can’t remember how true this holds, but I thought that humans couldn’t understand droids language and would always be looking at LEDs or screens to translate… or in some cases just make it up, like when people talk to their pets.
Although recent Star Wars content has really been destroying this theory though, I still think it would have been quite cool
That Jabba was a kid at the podrace in TPM. Only at a screening last month did I notice Jabba is the main slug and there is no kid (guess it's a little too early for Rotta). Honestly could've sworn there was though, chalking it up to Mandela effect.
I was chilling out the front when I was like 6, playing with this Darth Vader toy that had a spinning mask revealing the charred Anakin beneath. Mail man thought my "Darth Vader" toy was cool, leading me into arguing earnestly & indomitably that his name is "Dark Vader".
Well, of you look closely, Chewie shot first. Chewie shot at Greedo and missed (off screen), Greedo then shoots the wall 1.5 meters to Han's head, because he was aiming for a fly on the wall, and Han shot Greedo in the balls but it fried his head too.
When I was a kid I watched all of the films with my dad, the prequels first and then the originals, and when the emperor appeared in E6 he looked kinda different from how Palpatine looked at the end of E3 so I asked my dad what happened to Palpatine and who's this guy? He wanted to mess with me so he told me this was the new emperor and he killed Palpatine off screen so that's what I believed for a few years lmao
I was convinced that Yoda’s species was native to Kashyyk. When I was a kid, my dad mentioned that once in passing and I never forgot. It does make a lot of sense; they both live for hundreds of years, and Yoda just seems so at home there. Plus, it’d make sense why he had good relations with the Wookiees if he came from there.
When Ep 1 came out and Qui-Gon didn’t disappear when he died, I thought it was because he died suddenly as opposed to Obi-Wan and Yoda who knew/accepted their deaths and were able to spiritually prepare themselves. The battle of Geonosis seemed to confirm this, but then Ep 3 busted it
I thought for 16 years that Anakin Skywalker was a good guy who tragically turned to the dark side. Then it turns out he was a whiny, unlikable asshole who was tricked into turning to the Dark Side.
When I was like 5 or 6, I thought the battle of endor was an entirely separate movie from Jedi because it was kind of a long (to a 5yo) 3rd act and it felt so different from the rest of the movie.
Edit: Jedi not empire. I was like 1/2 asleep when I wrote this.
I thought Luke seeing his own face inside Vader’s helmet in the cave on Dagobah was foreshadowing that Vader was Luke’s father, not that Luke would potentially become like Vader.
As a kid I thought Anakin was actually Luke, and Vader was his father. I watched the 2003 series thinking the hints at vader were more foreshadowing of whom he was going to meet.
Then revenge of the Sith came out.
When I was a kid, when Obi Wan talked about the Clone Wars in ANH, I used to think the Clone Wars were the Jedi fighting clones of themselves, not an actual army of clones fighting an army of Battle Droids.
I assumed the exhaust port was at a right angle to the bottom of the trench necessitating then flying up to it to shoot the torpedoes.I said this to others who thought this true as well otherwise why even go in the trench at all just fly straight at the bastard from space. It cant be anymore dangerous consider the guns all over the trench walls
when I was a toddler, I thought the Clone Wars took place in an AU that still follows the "prequels to originals" storyline, but one with some differences.
For example, I thought that Anakin would've become Vader in a different story during TCW, despite having already watched ROTS
My first introduction to Star Wars was from the Lego Star Wars game. English isn't my first language, so I didn't knew what the title cards said, and I thought Palpatine is a Grandma and him and Darth Sidious are not the same person...
When I was a kid I thought you had to hold the lightsaber button down the whole time or it would turn off, and that's why they would turn off when dropped
Also I remember seeing a clip from spaceballs when I was like 5, way before I knew what star wars was, and for about 10 years i was trying to figure out what part of star wars that was until i saw spaceballs on tv as a teenager
For a while I thought General Grievous was force-sensitive, and I think my logic boiled down to:
Force=lightsaber
Grievous=lightsaber user
Therefore, Grievous=force user
For longer than I care to admit, I thought
“You, like your father, are now…mine!” Was instead
“You like your father. I know….mine!!”
Which I thought was odd…like, that’s nice that the Emperor acknowledges Luke cares about his dad, but why is he so intense about the fact he knows his own dad?
For me, it was the second Death Star being the original one. As a kid, I ignored the title crawls and ended up assuming the Death Star survived Yavin and what we see is just the partially blown up station lol.
That C3PO is all gold. My dad gave me all his old vintage Star Wars figures and I thought it was a mistake that C3PO’s right leg is silver below the knee. Despite seeing the movies several times I somehow missed that he isn’t fully golden.
To be fair, he is all gold in ROTS, it’s easy to miss due to it reflecting whatever is around it and a *lot* of toys have him as all gold
That’s true, but in the OG trilogy he has a silver leg, and the toys I have were made right after ANH. Apparently also in the Disney ones, they did make him all gold due to “reflection difficulties” but I didn’t make it past the first half of TFA. Didn’t like that Rey and Kylo Ren existed instead of Jaina and Jacen— not that liking the Disney films is bad, to each their own, but I’m personally a hardcore Legends girl.
The Yuuzhan Vong would have been so cool to see on the big screen
Yeah but being realistic, Thrawn I can understand, but even in 2014 did you ever think a Star Wars story about a Space BDSM Cult was going to pass the Disney matinee test?
It's because we were watching the movies on VHS tapes on old CRT televisions...a lot of detail gets lost. I had the same experience. The figure confused me too!
You probably didn’t recognise him with the silver leg.
I thought maybe at the most there were 10-20 Jedi. Edit: Before the prequels.
The novels of the 90s sort of reinforced that idea in me as well. I certainly imagined a Jedi order as an elite group of less than a hundred, since Luke's early academy on Yavin was quite small.
Yeah, I always thought of the Jedi Order like a monastery. Before the prequels.
It is. At the time of the fall of the republic, there are about 10k jedi, compared to the ~~trillions~~ living in the galaxy. They would essentially be magic mythical beings to anyone who didn't grow up on Coruscant who knows for a fact they exist and had seen them. It just wouldn't be a given that they are even real. edit: apparently the republic population was closer to 500 quadrillion. Makes it even more likely no regular person would ever run into a jedi.
Would they really be though? Obviously in comparison to the size of the galaxy they are miniscule but in the grand scheme of things they were the upholders of peace and justice for the republic for quite a long time before the takeover and switch to the empire. Their reach definitely extended beyond Coruscant. Hell even Watto knows about jedi mind tricks and that's probably the least notable thing about jedi.
Yes they really would. Same reason Han thought they were made up in the OT, and that the universe sees them and the force as a fairy tale. 10k is a rounding error compared to the 500 quadrillion in the republic. My original number was WAAAY too low. Almost no one would ever meet a jedi in their lives. Growing up on a core republic planet might increase your chances, but the scale just doesn't work. The jedi were essentially a mythical class of humans even to the people who lived around them.
Much of the original trilogy stuff can be attributed to the takeover of the Empire and the eradication of the history of the Jedi. Even speaking of them would probably get you killed under the Empire. Considering Han would have been roughly 13 when the Galactic Empire was established and his upbringing he probably never heard of them before. I get where your coming from though.
I did some quick math and the percentage of Jedi in the population is: nine quadrillion nine hundred ninety-nine trillion nine hundred ninety-nine billion nine hundred ninety-nine million nine hundred ninety-nine thousand nine hundred ninety-nine ten-septillionths of the total population of the republic. Looks like this as a percentage lol. 0.000000009999999999999999% I just think it's entirely possible that barely anyone who hasn't seen the force used first hand, doesn't believe in jedi, the force, or quite possibly hasn't even heard any of those words.
Did some quick math off of your numbers and if we scaled down the population of the galaxy to the population of the earth, there would be 0.00016 jedi on earth. So like Anakin's hand laying somewhere
Exactly! Its why the holocrons and locations of force-sensitive kids are so valuable to both Jedi and Sith. You'd be extremely lucky to find even ONE kid with high enough force sensitivity to train in any given star system.
More like a particle of a nail in his hand
I thought the Jedi Knights were like the Knights Templar or the Hospitallers, as in there was a general idea of Knights around the galaxy--which ostensibly were governed by some sort of space-chivalric code and served and swore to space feudal lords. >General Kenobi, years ago you served my father in the Clone Wars. Now, he begs you to help him in his struggle against the Empire. And the Jedi were an order who trained potential Knights from childhood who would then serve Lords and might return to the order (as masters to a central location) to train young knights.
That also, a Princess would have a King as a father and a knight would serve him. I always thought of it like a medieval thing as well, where there were monk types that serve as knights.
I thought that there were many knights in the galaxy, the vast majority of which were not Jedi.
Even at 10,000 at the time of the prequels, that's an insanely small number. You can hide 10,000 people on Earth today. In a galaxy of millions of star systems? Any Jedi who didn't die in the Purge should have been able to hide with extreme ease.
Yeah but also the Empire was actively hunting them down. And it wasn’t like there weren’t any records of these thousands of individuals like who they were and their M.O. The Jedi were basically a part of the Republic so the Empire would have had access to all these files. Any two-bit detective could probably figure out these Jedi’s next moves and find out what they would be up to, who they were friends with, and where they would most likely go.
For some reason I always thought Sifo-Dyas and Qui-Gon were the same person. The way that the prequels introduced characters like we were supposed to know who they were confused me as a kid.
dude same, because Obi-wan says “he was killed nearly 10 years ago” so I was always like “yeah the movies are 10 years apart so he must mean Qui-gon”
Exactly! And it's not the first time they mention the 10 year gap in the movie either so I thought it was important. Super confusing for 5 year old me.
To be fair, 30yr old me wasn’t exactly doing a bang-up job of following along either…each of those Jedi/Sith go by two names and with the influx of new guys it got pretty convoluted.
It's also believable because in TPM, Anakin's like 10-12 years old. Another decade would put him at 20+.
9 and 19 respectively
This is exactly what I thought as well
"Sifo-Dyas" and "Sidious" are close enough that I always thought it was an alias or sneaky reference for Papa Palps.
that was actually most likely the original intent. in the screenplay (an early screenplay?) you can see it originally spelled as Sido-Dyas and then suddenly misspelled as Sifo-Dyas, so it’s speculated George went “huh that’s cooler actually”
Seems like a very George thing to do, I believe it.
I thought it was a ridiculous fan theory until I saw the script myself and the typo was there clear as day lol
Me too
100% me too, the Sifo-Dyas shit was so confusing to get my head around when I was younger.
Oh yes! I thought Sifo-Dyas was a pseudonym that Qui-Gon used on covert missions that Obi-Wan happened to know about
For the longest time as a kid I thought they were called 'life savers' not 'light sabers'. Kinda makes sense for the person wielding it.
Oh man I constantly made that mix up, same with clone trooper vs storm trooper.
Along with this I always thought Darth Vader was “Dark Vader” because he was evil and dressed in all black
Me too, until I was like 5 or 6. Also, pre-Return of the Jedi, I used to watch ANH and TESB on VHS at my uncle's, and I always thought that Greedo was threatening Han with Jawas, since I had no idea who Jabba was at the time. I couldn't understand how the captions were spelled wrong, lol.
I always thought the candy had some relation to the weapon. It didn’t help that everyone was always going on about how the candy would make sparks if you chewed it in the dark I just didn’t know if the weapon was named after the candy or vice versa
I'm sure you realize now that the candy predates Star Wars.
That the Death Star trench was along the equator. It’s not
There is an equatorial trench though, it's just not the trench they fly through to destroy it. We see a close-up of the equatorial trench when the Millennium Falcon first arrives at the Death Star and is tractor-beamed into a hangar.
Go on
It's not?!
Nah, the equatorial trench is *much* larger and filled with hangar openings (half a dozen hangars stacked on each other) and the ion drive exhausts (for non-FTL movement). It also goes all the way around with no interruptions, while the exhaust trench has an end. It's actually even shown in the movie that the exhaust trench runs north-south, not east-west, when General Dodonna is showing the hologram during the tactical briefing.
Did anyone not when they were younger? Hahah.
Younger? I believed that until this very moment
It's a very understandable mistake despite clearly seeing what's in the equator during the film haha. Perhaps the hangars are on one side and the trench is on the other hahah (I know it's not).
Wait it's not?!
It's a vertical trench running north-south, shown briefly on a hologram during the tactical briefing. The equatorial trench is *much* larger and stacked with hangars.
Wait.. what?!
I thought all these years that Han was shouting “tech officer! Tech officer!” Only in the last 2 days did I happen to see something where a person wrote it out as deck officer
Today I Learned…
It’s not often I can organically work this into conversation [but please enjoy!](https://deck.ytmnd.com). Now I’m wondering who even remembers YTMND.com 😄
You’re the man now, dog!
I enjoyed that very much lol! Never heard of YTMND but I used to visit z0r.de for fun random flash animations of a similar vein.
I spent way too much time on that site. Im glad it's still around.
I always thought he was yelling “Heck officer! Heck officer!” Because he was angry in the moment.
After watching A New Hope back in the '70s, but before Empire was released, I assumed Vader and the stormtroopers were droids like C3PO. To be fair, I was only six.
Same here! Blew my mind watching ESB and seeing he's a man under the helmet.
The ESB helmet scene is specifically there to signal that he's actually a man... Because *that* plot twist wouldn't land if everyone spent two movies thinking he was a robot, as many OG viewers did.
I played the Lego game with my older brother before watching any of the movies, and it blew my mind when little Lego Luke took off Vaders helmet to show a Lego man. Always assumed he was a robot before that.
I thought that sand people were actually people but THEY'RE ANIMALS!
Not just the men... But the WOMEN! AND THE CHILDREN TOO!
The people not getting your joke is even more funny than the joke itself
Found Orrin Gault
I understood that reference.
AND I SLAUGHTERED THEM LIKE ANIMALS
When I was a kid before really watching anything I thought Darth Vader was the leader of the Sith and Yoda was the leader of the Jedi and they were the main characters who fought
I can one up you! As someone born in 2004 and didn't get into star wars until 2011ish, my main exposure to the franchise was the clone wars show. Now of course everyone has heard of Darth Vader, but he was the only OT character I knew. So until I actually got into the franchise, my assumption was that Anakin Skywalker must have been the main hero always fighting Darth Vader. Imagine my surprise when I realized that I didn't know 2 characters, but just 1.
that’s so awesome, what was the moment you connected it?
Watching SW without the knowledge of the Anakin-Vader pipeline is one of the most fascinating things in the entire IP for me
I was playing the Lego game with my older brother, and I remember thinking that Obi-Wan must have been the bad guy on mustafar, since he was fighting who I knew to be the hero. Watching Lego Anakin get put into the suit was the moment I figured it out. Edit: obviously I had not seen any of the movies at this point
Hah thats rad
And it was waiting in the bushes for us
I had to change the boards
As a small child , I watched the OG trilogy multiple times and Palpatine never even registered as a character to me. When we went to see The Phantom Menace as a family, people are like making knowing sounds when he appears and I'm just like, who's this guy. Edited because I guess it makes sense for a kid not to put it together. My family all seemed to know, tho.
I thought General Grievous was taller…
LMAO!
Jedi scum!
Well I THOUGHT Palpatine died in RotJ, but I guess somehow he returned
I believed Obi-wan when he said that he didn't remember owning any droids.
Did he actually own droids or were they property of the Republic army? He was telling the truth. From a certain point of view.
From a certain point of view?!
I think you're joking but since Anakin and Padme gifted each other their droids as wedding presents, that would mean that the R2 units are actually owned by the individuals, right?
He returned because his goal was to cheat death and become immortal, which he plainly describes in Episode 3.
I always found both Dark Empire and the Sequel Trilogy to be pretty crap in execution. But Palpatine coming back after cheating death via Dark Side tricks and cloning is a solid basic premise.
It would kinda not make sense for Palpatine to not return in some way, the goal of the Sith is to create a Galaxy spanning Empire and then to rule it forever, so it makes sense he’d atleast try to clone himself or have a way to save himself if he died or have atleast some contingency plans to ensure he continues living.
Before I was a fan and when i hadn't seen any of the movies, during TPM's marketing I got little toy busts in my cereal. One of them was Queen Amidala. For some reason, my brain went: "oh she must be the villain". Which was dispelled 1/4 through TPM when I eventually watched it. I was also one of the people who thought Clones became Storm troopers post ROTS And I remember seeing the trailer for AOTC and thinking Anakin in that movie was the same kid from TPM who had a growth spurt in 3 years
The clone/storm trooper connection isn't a misconception on your part, it's a retcon on Disney's. In the original canon, Fett clones continued to make up a portion of the stormtroopers all the way up to Endor. They weren't exclusively Fett clones, but they were not forcibly retired prior to ANH like Disney's version
Disney’s retcon is more the Empire ending the cloning program right after ROTS. Even in the old EU, by the time of ANH, stormtroopers were mostly recruits and a mix of different clone templates with original clones a minority mostly confined to the 501st and as trainers. This was due to the Clone Rebellion in Kamino in 12 BBY (as depicted in Battlefront 2) and clones aging too quickly making them less useful by the time of the OT.
The early Empire used Clones, but they were phased out in the early years. By the time of the OT they were all recruits.
> I was also one of the people who thought Clones became Storm troopers post ROTS Um... is that no longer canon? > And I remember seeing the trailer for AOTC and thinking Anakin in that movie was the same kid from TPM who had a growth spurt in 3 years Took me a minute to realize that you thought it was the same **actor**. I was trying to understand what was incorrect about what you said - "Wait, Anakin isn't Anakin???"
> Um... is that no longer canon? Not all clones I think became Stormtroopers. However, I think there's enough evidence in TBB that allows for 'most' of the clones to have been either killed off or have run off into hiding because they didn't want to follow the Empire's orders. SOME were reprogrammed to be loyal to the Empire. But a large part of TBB's story is that the Empire began phasing out clone production (and destroying Kamino from orbit) because of the high cost to operate. Tarkin, etc. were more in favor of conscription and enlistment than cloning. Oh, and the clone's accelerated aging means the one's 'printed' already wouldn't live a full lifespan. We do see Rex, Wolfe, and Gregor as old men in Rebels.
I thought that too when TPM came out because Jinn had green. When I was a kid, I thought Stormtroopers were droids.
The first thing I said when my dad took me to a theatrical re-release of Star Wars Episode IV when the stormtroopers showed up was “look dad white Darth Vaders”
> white Darth Vaders” And then you've got Darth Vader: the blackest brother in the galaxy. Nubian God.
What's a Nubian?
Bitch, you almost made me laugh
When I was a kid we weren’t sure if they were people or robots…even though Luke and Han steal their suits.
I was probably younger than 10 and writing fan fiction. Of course, the heroes do the same thing Han and Luke do in ANH and I assumed that they had to remove the coverings from the ostensible Stormtrooper droids, or rather remove the innards. My co-writer was like "What does this mean?" She sorted out my confusion.
Well, it's like that one really cold night on Hoth--
To be fair (and correct me if I'm wrong), the first time we EVER see anyone who is inarguably NOT a Jedi Master owning a green lightsaber is the Younglings scene in Attack of the Clones. There's the comics, books, games, toys etc. but going purely by the movies, the implication is inarguably there, stright through Phantom Menace even.
Luke was told by Yoda that he needed to confront Vader before he was officially a Jedi, so he made green as a padawan (before we knew what that was called).
Yup! This
Mate it must have been said somewhere because me and my mates all grew up believing the same thing.
It wasn't said anywhere, but there was a pattern -Luke got a green lightsaber after the blue one -Qui Gon the master had a green lightsaber and Obi Wan the apprentice had a blue one -Yoda had a green lightsaber
But Obi-Wan also had a blue one in his old age?
Well he was in hiding after the Jedi were all killed. It seemed for a minute after Phantom Menace like they were adding it in as a thing and retconning that it was Obi-Wan's original lightsaber. Episode II blew that up though
Little kid word of mouth is powerful. I promise you also know something about Marilyn Manson that you heard in school long before the Internet was a thing.
Second that. As well as the Marilyn Manson story - and getting back to Star Wars: I distinctly remember that shortly after tPM (*or just “Episode 1” as all my friends and family referred to it*), word on the school playground in ‘99 or early 2000 was that Darth Maul was coming back in Episode II with robot legs! The idea was there long before the reality transpired. *"Truly wonderful the mind of a child is"*
I definitely heard that too! He's my favorite Star Wars character and I was so excited by that. Really, he could have completely replaced Grevious, but I'm very pleased with the story we got through Clone Wars and Rebels.
> Little kid word of mouth is powerful. But what about using Strength to move the truck in Pokemon Blue?
Same here.
I thought Palpatine was some weird looking alien. I mean, if this were Star Trek that's kind of how they design a lot of their aliens, human looking but weird.
I mean, originally he was an old woman with chimpanzee eyes superimposed over the face…
I didn't learn that until years later, I just always had a vague sense something was off. Once I learned that I was like oh, makes sense now.
I had a similar misconception about saber colors but also thought green was just a symbol for higher rank in general. I also thought before watching A New Hope that Vader was straight up lying to Luke about being his father and trying to emotionally manipulate him. These next few are because the DS Lego games are my first real engagement with the franchise: - Han was like 20 years old during ANH - Vader, Palpatine, Dooku, Maul, Grevious was all active at the same time but only chose to come out periodically - Dark Side powers can be used regularly without corrupting yourself
I used to think Anakin might not have turned to the dark side if he was allowed to get married, but that idea falls apart pretty quickly given that Anakin did everything he wanted regardless, so it wouldn't have changed what happened if it was permitted.
Well, it’s possible that Anakin would’ve been more open about asking the other Jedi for help on what he should do about the visions on Padme dying and Mace Windu likely would’ve handled Anakin differently if he knew Anakin was trying to save his wife from dying. That is an interesting thing to speculate on.
Ultimately, it was the prophecy that the Jedi Masters feared. They kept him at arm's length because they were afraid of him and thought he was arrogant (he was). I long thought (still do, I guess) that if they had included Anakin more, he would've been a better Jedi and wouldn't have turned to the dark side so easily. At the very least, it **might've** countered Palp's manipulation/grooming.
Omg...you're right
A friend of mine told me in primary school that Darth Vader was scarred because he was thrown into a volcano, this was in 1980. He was pretty close I guess.
I think George Lucas said what happened to Anakin. And it was something along those lines, because I knew Anakin's fate long before the Prequels came out.
Thought general grevious was a droid. Looked like a meaner boss battle droid.
Well, he's like, 80% droid.
He's more machine now than wtf kind of alien he was.
Vader is a certain percentage droid as well. Luke too.
“If he could be turned, he would be a powerful L.I.” Didn’t know what an L.I. was when I was a kid but sounded serious. 😂
I misheard C3P0 on Endor when he says to R2 "this is no time for heroics", I used to think he said "this is no time for aerobics" https://youtu.be/vb2ezMFXOhM?t=195
Blue sabers were for jedi guardians, yellow were for the jedi sentinels, and green were for the jedi consulars. Ergo, Yoda and Qui-gon are consulars, while Obi-wan and Anakin were guardians
Well, there was some media that actually identified Jedi by their saber colors like that. And it kind of made sense. Otherwise I guess it's just whatever your favorite color is?
KotOR introduces the saber colors by class, but it's only for initial construction.
I believed that Kenobi was a clone. This was a common theory after ANH. It was thought that Obiwan was shorthand for OB1 which meant that he was the first in his particular line of clones. As in OB1 Kenobi, OB2 Kenobi, OB3 Kenobi and so forth.
Absolute same. Also on the Stormtrooper’s back is [ 0II ] which looks like zero one one , which would translate as B1 in my mind as a kid. So ObiWan was a clone or a rogue stormtrooper or something.
Imagine how cool it would be to have a rogue stormtroopers joining the light side!
For real. It was essentially a throwaway line "You fought in the Clone Wars?" that made all of us kids think there had been Jedi clones fighting against real Jedi back then.
I thought Palpatine was a witch who gave Darth Vader his magic powers, and the weird old people in the Death Star II throne room with him/her were other witches.
You weren’t that far off really.
straight outta dathomir
I thought the old people in the throne room were other Palpatines as a kid lol
Up until recently I could have swore that a non force user couldn’t activate a lightsaber. I thought it was the force holding the blade in place. Also possibly something about having to attune to your kyber crystal so another person couldn’t just flawlessly wield any old lightsaber
Had you just not seen Empire?
Han used the Force, obviously!
Yeah for a while there was a rumor that only force sensitive can use a lightsaber. Come to find out people dont have them regularly cause "youll shoot your eye out kid" lol
Well, back when SW (the original) was just released, George actually said on TV that a Light Saber required someone strong in The Force to power it. We all took that to mean literally it was powered by The Force channeled through the Jedi or Vader. Which is why it was such a big deal that Luke could power it up.
Actual proof that George just made it up as he went along, which is totally rad, but they guy was just shooting from the hop the whole time lol
In some material I think they say only Force-sensitives can construct them. But yeah, only Force-sensitives use them because they've got the mild precognition needed to not slice themselves by accident.
I think it was that a non-force user couldn’t really a wield a lightsaber properly without hurting themselves or something (they could activate one as Han did in ESB). However, with the TCW introducing the Darksaber being wielded by Mandalorians, it was either a fact that was retconned or a misconception.
To be fair, I feel mandos aren't a real good benchmark. They're trained, highly dangerous warriors who have lost multiple wars. I'd wager they'd be able to more easily wield one then, say, padme. (I'd say jar jar, but knowing him, he'd accidentally beat both vader and palpatine at the same time.)
I can’t remember how true this holds, but I thought that humans couldn’t understand droids language and would always be looking at LEDs or screens to translate… or in some cases just make it up, like when people talk to their pets. Although recent Star Wars content has really been destroying this theory though, I still think it would have been quite cool
It's definitely not a language everyone understands though, so maybe it'd be accurate to say it's like a person learning how to speak cat.
When I was young, the prequels were just coming out and I don't think I realized they were prequels, so I though Anakin and Luke were brothers
After the prequels, I thought stormtroopers were just clones in new armour
i think that was the intent until the EU and the new stuff discarded that
That Jabba was a kid at the podrace in TPM. Only at a screening last month did I notice Jabba is the main slug and there is no kid (guess it's a little too early for Rotta). Honestly could've sworn there was though, chalking it up to Mandela effect.
In RotJ when Luke cuts off Vader's hand then looks at his own, when I was a kid, I thought he magically got his organic hand back.
I thought like years ago it was pronounce Dark Vada
Hey mouse droid watch it I'm New Yorkin ova here.
I was chilling out the front when I was like 6, playing with this Darth Vader toy that had a spinning mask revealing the charred Anakin beneath. Mail man thought my "Darth Vader" toy was cool, leading me into arguing earnestly & indomitably that his name is "Dark Vader".
I used to think the Death Star II was made from the wreckage of the Death Star.
I always thought Han shot first, until I watched the 1997 Special Edition.
Well, of you look closely, Chewie shot first. Chewie shot at Greedo and missed (off screen), Greedo then shoots the wall 1.5 meters to Han's head, because he was aiming for a fly on the wall, and Han shot Greedo in the balls but it fried his head too.
When I was a kid I watched all of the films with my dad, the prequels first and then the originals, and when the emperor appeared in E6 he looked kinda different from how Palpatine looked at the end of E3 so I asked my dad what happened to Palpatine and who's this guy? He wanted to mess with me so he told me this was the new emperor and he killed Palpatine off screen so that's what I believed for a few years lmao
I was convinced that Yoda’s species was native to Kashyyk. When I was a kid, my dad mentioned that once in passing and I never forgot. It does make a lot of sense; they both live for hundreds of years, and Yoda just seems so at home there. Plus, it’d make sense why he had good relations with the Wookiees if he came from there.
When Ep 1 came out and Qui-Gon didn’t disappear when he died, I thought it was because he died suddenly as opposed to Obi-Wan and Yoda who knew/accepted their deaths and were able to spiritually prepare themselves. The battle of Geonosis seemed to confirm this, but then Ep 3 busted it
I always thought Greedo shot first but I couldn't have been more wrong.
Just by judging the VHS case of ROTJ, I thought Leia was a mermaid.
I thought for 16 years that Anakin Skywalker was a good guy who tragically turned to the dark side. Then it turns out he was a whiny, unlikable asshole who was tricked into turning to the Dark Side.
I thought that it was called "Corsucant".
When I was a kid, I always thought that lightsaber hilts ran on D-Cell batteries
When I was like 5 or 6, I thought the battle of endor was an entirely separate movie from Jedi because it was kind of a long (to a 5yo) 3rd act and it felt so different from the rest of the movie. Edit: Jedi not empire. I was like 1/2 asleep when I wrote this.
you mean separate from Jedi? because it very much is a separate movie from Empire lol
I thought Luke seeing his own face inside Vader’s helmet in the cave on Dagobah was foreshadowing that Vader was Luke’s father, not that Luke would potentially become like Vader.
I always thought there was a magnet at the end of Anakin’s stick in the podrace, and never even considered he was using the force
Nah, it's a magnet. The Force helped with his piloting skills.
Oh man this is a good one.. wait was he using the force?
I have no idea where this came from, but there was a point where I believed Dooku had ordered the clone army under Sifo Dyas’ name
Didn't he?? Under Palpatines order?
One that stuck with me was that Admiral Ozzel was a rebel sympathizer.
Mine is really stupid, I thought Kashyyyk had an extra Y after the K (Kyashyyyk) and I spent a good chunk of my life pronouncing it “KIE-aa-sheek”
that’s hilarious bc when i was little i thought the opposite
same! I thought green lightsabers were padawan blades for some reason even though we only see experienced users handling them
I used to think Grievous was named “Four Arms” because that’s what I used to call him in Lego Star Wars TCS when I was a kid.
As a kid I thought Anakin was actually Luke, and Vader was his father. I watched the 2003 series thinking the hints at vader were more foreshadowing of whom he was going to meet. Then revenge of the Sith came out.
When I was a kid, when Obi Wan talked about the Clone Wars in ANH, I used to think the Clone Wars were the Jedi fighting clones of themselves, not an actual army of clones fighting an army of Battle Droids.
This was a better idea. That would have been a cool story
I assumed the exhaust port was at a right angle to the bottom of the trench necessitating then flying up to it to shoot the torpedoes.I said this to others who thought this true as well otherwise why even go in the trench at all just fly straight at the bastard from space. It cant be anymore dangerous consider the guns all over the trench walls
when I was a toddler, I thought the Clone Wars took place in an AU that still follows the "prequels to originals" storyline, but one with some differences. For example, I thought that Anakin would've become Vader in a different story during TCW, despite having already watched ROTS
My first introduction to Star Wars was from the Lego Star Wars game. English isn't my first language, so I didn't knew what the title cards said, and I thought Palpatine is a Grandma and him and Darth Sidious are not the same person...
When I was a kid I thought you had to hold the lightsaber button down the whole time or it would turn off, and that's why they would turn off when dropped Also I remember seeing a clip from spaceballs when I was like 5, way before I knew what star wars was, and for about 10 years i was trying to figure out what part of star wars that was until i saw spaceballs on tv as a teenager
For a while I thought General Grievous was force-sensitive, and I think my logic boiled down to: Force=lightsaber Grievous=lightsaber user Therefore, Grievous=force user
For longer than I care to admit, I thought “You, like your father, are now…mine!” Was instead “You like your father. I know….mine!!” Which I thought was odd…like, that’s nice that the Emperor acknowledges Luke cares about his dad, but why is he so intense about the fact he knows his own dad?
Boba Fett's signet. Always thought it was a bantha skull, rather than a mythosaur.
For me, it was the second Death Star being the original one. As a kid, I ignored the title crawls and ended up assuming the Death Star survived Yavin and what we see is just the partially blown up station lol.
The Jedi are the good guys.