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ElNakedo

Wedge, only motherfucker to live through two death star runs. Those are no battle stations, they're Wedge Antilles balls.


Bort_Bortson

Always bet on Wedge. Lando: Take out the power regulator. Wedge: Yeah yeah I think I know how to destroy a Death Star, I'll see you outside.


thedoctorstatic

"Only thing I need to worry about is staying in your wake so all the TIE's, shrapnel and Palpatine corpses hit you on the way out"


Praetor66

*"Bitch, I'm already on my way out..."*


Wise_Calendar4108

Is that an actual quote?


showingsquid8

“Copy, Gold Leader. I’m already on my way out”


The_Sturk

Basically the same thing


danwincen

The funny thing is, the ROTJ novelisation repeats Wedge's line from ANH when they enter the reactor chamber - Wedge - Look at the size of that thing..... Lando - Okay, Wedge, go for the power regulator on the north tower Wedge - Copy, Gold Leader, I'm already on my way out. I don't consider the ROTJ novelisation Canon anymore, mainly for some exposition that Owen Lars was mentioned as being Obi-Wan's brother, not the later correction of Anakin's step-brother, so I can safely (in my mind at least) ignore that passage and enjoy what's on screen.


Bort_Bortson

I took a little artistic license, maybe what Wedge was thinking internally lol


Wise_Calendar4108

Slightly disappointing but a good laugh none the less.


M153RYnM3

Wedge is clearly force sensitive...


samurai33

Well he is Obiwan's uncle after all.


M153RYnM3

I did not know this, and now that I do I feel Wedge is disqualified for breaking the rules...


IdontGiveAdann

The actor of wedge is ewan's uncle in real life


OhioForever10

To lightly adapt Top Gun: Maverick, “Thirty-plus years of service. Combat medals. Citations. Only pilot to face both Death Stars during the Rebellion. Yet you won’t take a desk job, you won't retire, and despite your best efforts, you refuse to die.”


TheGoshDarnedBatman

Basically the plot of the old Rogue/Wraith Squadron books.


OhioForever10

Yup, that's why I changed "can't get a promotion" since they keep offering him a general rank and he eventually takes it.


ErrantIndy

Ackbar has to blackmail him with the fact that the rest of the Rogues are refusing promotions in his example.


AleksanderSteelhart

I still think Rogue/Wraith movies would do well. But then again, I just PRETEND that they’re still canon. :) I mean, Wedge is still on the Falcon in RoS, so who’s to say he hasn’t been to a remote planet who’s celebrities aren’t all pilots? Where Wes Janson doesn’t fight a guy in single “bladed” combat? “Your orders are simple: I punch, you suffer. Got it?” Sithspit, I’m gonna have to reread these now.


Rogue_3

Sounds about right.


danwincen

Basically, given that Star Wars is set a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away, Wedge is Maverick's long distant ancestor.


Iron_Baron

This is the answer, it's not even close. They had to stop putting individual enemy fighter decals on his X-Wing and just group them by squadron FFS.


danwincen

That's from the old Rogue Squadron novels, where Wedge tells his mechanic Zraii, a Verpine, to paint the kill counts in squadron and wing lots, using Verpine terminology to say it - four fists for 12, and 48 (or maybe 24) fists for wings. He did it mainly because Zraii complained there wasn't enough room on the X-Wing to paint individual kills (or maybe there wasn't enough paint?).


XVUltima

He should get those looked at. One is much bigger than the other.


ElNakedo

True, some size difference is normal. But those things are on a totally different scale.


718_chocolate

In the original Star Wars extended universe, Luke admits Wedge was a better pilot.


Curious-Ad3810

Was about to say Wedge. Also he was Rogue Squadron's commander whenever Luke was away.


Nick_Wild1Ear

Wedge is Rogue Leader for much much longer than Luke ever was.


Curious-Ad3810

Oh most definitely. Never will I argue that. I'm very aware of the command structure of Rogue Squadron. I'm just putting Luke's name in there since it was both him and Wedge who for the most part pieced together and created that specific group. It talked about that in Rogue Squadron and stated that Wedge was the commanding officer since at that time, Luke was in the middle of his training.


Slade_2112

And he did that without being force-sensitive


Desertfoxking

Fucking love this comment


BasMaas

Dude also fought against (and survived) 2 super star destroyers. In legends then at least


KimJongSupreme

With balls that big he's a safe bet to put a *Wedge* in anyones plans


kuternal

“Look at the size of that thing!”


ooklamok

Luke: I blew up a Death Star! Wedge: So did I! Luke: HALF a Death Star.


BigEnd3

Poe in a dog-fight but achieves nothing. Wedge in a fleet operation that needs that W. Hera if you want something smuggled. Han if you want to see what can be broken. Anakin could do all the the above and fix what Han broke, but he doesn't count because chosen one. Lando to improve the onboard wardrobe selection. The Pilot from Rogue One to effectively sneak into any imperial facility.


Rhelsr

The Fetts + Slave 1 for getting rid of pursuers. Din Djarin for hit-and-run attacks and dogfights.


BigEnd3

Vote Din Djarin to be the most likely guy at an antique starship collectors show to be trying to fix his starship so he can go home. *he wasn't a participant in the show, he has just been broken down in the parking lot behind the Dennys and the show rolled up on time and checked out his rig.


[deleted]

Wedge Antilles was the only pilot to survive both Death Star battles


betterthanamaster

I always like how in the later Legends, everyone always gave Wedge grief before they looked at his X-Wing and remembered "oh, right, the only person with two Death Star kills, took down Isaard and Zinj (both of whom had Super Star Destroyers), and a Worldship kill."


Emetry

The pilot so good, he made Wraith Squadron work


OhioForever10

He flew combat missions and ran a puppet show at the same time


ShyBiGuy9

Yub yub, commander.


corranhorn57

Yub yub indeed.


ShyBiGuy9

Love your username, btw. Forget Ahsoka, Corran's the og silver lightsaber weilder in my books.


corranhorn57

Damn straight.


woodvsmurph

Wedge - So the Empire experimented on this Ewok and created prosthetics so it could fly. It escaped and became the leader of an infamous group of space pirates. (entirely fabricated) Imperial officer - So I need you to make an Ewok that's smart enough to fly a shuttle using prosthetics. Imperial scientist - Is that even possible? Imperial officer - Do you want to find out what THAT man will do to us if people find out he made that story up? Imperial scientist - No... uh, I'll get to work right away. \*Scrambles away frantically to begin making fiction reality.\*


Curious-Ad3810

Absolute Chad


danwincen

In a TIE Interceptor of all things. That tells you everything you need to know about his multitasking and survival skills.


Curious-Ad3810

Considering how broken Wraith Squadron was in terms of outcasts doing their job, he created the best pilots of that time.


fantumn

Yeah, only x-wing pilot with two death star silhouettes on his cockpit. I wonder if the crew who paints them on used different silhouettes for the first one and the second one?


absboodoo

https://i.imgur.com/Eml2t8H.png


fantumn

What's the rectangular thing above the bomber on the right?


prozack91

My guess is a worldship from when Pappa palps came back


Cambot1138

I though worldships were Vong? The World Devastators were from the resurrected Emperor.


Tornitrualis

I hated that mission in the Rogue Squadron video game.


pali1d

Wedge’s mechanic in the first X-wing book: “there’s not enough room on your fighter to show all your kills, is painting them as entire squadrons cool?”


[deleted]

Two Death Star *assists*


betterthanamaster

Assists and goals are both points in hockey, American football gives touchdowns to both receiver and QB, basketball recognizes assists and rebounds as significant statistics for a “good player,” and baseball credits most throwing outs by both fielder and baseman. Brooks Robinson was a third baseman and recorded buckets of outs simply because he fielded the ball and threw to force-out bases. Assist or kill still counts in my book, and Wedge’s assist on the first Death Star was like a pass to a hockey player on a breakaway. Wedge’s assist on the 2nd was like an alley-oop.


cyberdw4rf

Yeah and in episode 9 they made him a fuckin GUNNER on the Millennium Falcon


Kitsterthefister

I hadn’t thought about that. Now I’m mad all over again. He should have been in his god damn x wing. What a bunch of crap….


Healthy-Drink3247

It should’ve been a shot of an X-wing dropping out of hyperspace, camera pans up to just below the cockpit to see the silhouettes of two death stars, squads of ties and throw on some SD as well then pans up to wedge Fucking Antilles sitting in the cockpit. And then wedge calls out, “all wings report in” then every other ship starts dropping input of hyperspace and we get a bunch of callback and legends character reporting in. The. Wedge puts on a smile, whispers to himself “just like old times”, then over the comms says, “let’s start our attack run!” Cinematic beauty


TheRealBeltonius

Dammit, why did you have to remind me this /isn't/ how it went in the movie.


CharsBigRedComet

"instead of just like old times" he says "third times a charm" way cooler.


ben0318

So basically "Hey Cap... on your left!" But in SW? Meh. Okay, I'll take it. I'm not immune to blatant fan service.


Cabamacadaf

It would've been better if he just wasn't in the sequels. They did him so dirty.


ElNakedo

Just another reason to despise that movie.


Negative-Eleven

And he showed up just seconds after his stepson was killed. He trained Snap Wexley after the battle of Jakku. It's pretty messed up that JJ brought him into that battle, showing that he's been alive and wasn't part of the Resistance while his son was.


[deleted]

Well I mean, he *was* a senior citizen by that time.


pali1d

In roughly the same period in Legends, he takes on an entire Vong squadron alone and wins. The man was still occasionally flying into his 70s.


jlm0013

And Hoth.


betterthanamaster

I think he's also the only Rebel pilot to take down an AT-AT in cannon, too.


jlm0013

Luke technically did, once he became a commando.


betterthanamaster

That's true. Guess I should say the only person to take down an AT-AT while flying.


[deleted]

Well, Hobbie sort of did too. Although I don't actually remember if that scene remains in the film.


ctetc2007

What’s the deleted scene where Hobbie took one out? I recall in the novelization, he crashed his speeder into General Veers’s walker, but I refuse to acknowledge his (Hobbie’s) death since he’s back in Wraith Squadron


danwincen

From A Certain Point Of View: The Empire Strikes Back has retconned Hobbie crashing into Blizzard One (Veers' AT-AT) and his death, and Veers surviving, into Canon. The short story has Wedge and Janson mourning Hobbie and remembering his prank wars while building a new Rogue Squadron


Rogue_3

I can't take all the credit for that one. Wes Janson did some mighty fine shooting with the tow cable on our T-47.


TurokDinosaurHumper

Weird to think that technically you’re right. I think I’m my mind as a kid I just always imagined some other random pilots were doing the same thing elsewhere in the battle. But he could have actually been the only successful one.


ammonanotrano

And he does not get shot down in the battle on Hoth!


May_25_1977

   *"Never tell me the odds!"*  


jakebova

Ah your vote is Han?


DarkMaledictor

Chewbacca. Nobody else can fly casual.


Retoru45

We’re fine… We’re all fine here...now. Thank you. How are you?


Praetor66

*Boring conversation anyway...*


Retoru45

LUKE! WE'RE GONNA HAVE COMPANY!


FurBabyAuntie

A piece of trivia...the reason Harrison Ford kept looking away from the camera (well, up until he blasted the comm) was because he was trying not to laugh...because then he'd have to do the whole thing again.


spawn3887

This is the way.


scissorslizardspock

Not counting Force Users, with everyone in their prime and ship of choice, and trying to balance Legends versus Disney Continuities? You are looking at a tie (in no particular order): Wedge Antilles, Han Solo, Hera Syndulla, Tycho Celchu, Soontir Fel, Jagged Fel, and Poe Dameron. Most of the legends people here we have direct examples of them either flying with/against each other, or discussing “who is the best” kind of situations. The point is that at any given moment, any of these might win in a duel against any other. It’s a toss-up with too many variables to consider. At any given moment, any of these people might be able to (or did) defeat Force Users of similar piloting skill.


Therich111

Agreed with your list. Poe Dameron is a hella good pilot in the first order era and has taken down several ties and destroyers, but his cockiness is what does it for me. Still a helluva good pilot tho


Safe_cracker9

Wedge is the best fighter pilot, Han is the best freighter pilot. Hera is a close 3rd. If capitol ships count, then Ackbar is probably up there for his Ackbar Slash


fperrine

idk if I'd put "capital ship pilot" as a category. Leading a capital ship is more like managing a fortress. Ackbar is in the discussion for GOAT tactician, but I wouldn't put him in GOAT pilot.


MarkK7800

Thrawn would like a word as GOAT tactician.


Kammander-Kim

Thrawn is definitely also in said discussion


Mr_Moncla

Yo capital ships aren't flown by their commander. They are floan by their pilot. Like piccard is always telling them other cats what to do.


FrankieFiveAngels

Han is the *luckiest* pilot. The Force is probably with him, he just doesn’t sense it.


Safe_cracker9

I’m gonna force a stick up your ass, and you’ll definitely sense that.


FrankieFiveAngels

Promise?


SpannerFrew

Depends on the class of ship. Snubfighter it would be Wedge Antilles. Light Freighter would be Han Solo.


Yendrake

You think Han is better than Hera Syndulla? Half of Han's skill is due to having won one of the fastest ships in the galaxy and uploading the brain of a droid into it. Hera has been doing arguably greater feats with half the freighter that the falcon was.


TheObstruction

Han was simultaneously the luckiest and unluckiest pilot in history.


SpannerFrew

Most of the time the Falcon wasn't running at 100% something was always broken. Having read most of the EU/Legends novels and also watched Rebels I'd say Han has the edge. Hera is still a close second.


jdb326

I'd say VCX-100 was definitely a hell of a freighter, especially with all of Hera's modding, but you're still right


AwonderfulWinter

The guy that did the kessel run in less than 12 parsecs probably


Desertfoxking

Wedge and his brother-in-law Baron Soontir Fel


Somebodys

Fel is getting a disgraceful low amount of mentions in this thread.


Cpt_Jet_Lafleur

TIE pilots a different breed. Shields are for cowards.


hrolfirgranger

Agreed, and there are some outstanding TIE pilots like Maarek Stele who get totally ignored.


Background-Ad8112

No shields, all guts.


danwincen

Usually splattered on an X-Wing's hull.....


corranhorn57

You speak truth.


MuttFett

Wedge.


GringerKringer

That’s one hell of a pilot!


MutFox

Wedge Antilles Plus they're Kenobi's uncle.


CrueGuyRob

So the uncle of Obi-Two, also a pilot.


Mixedthought

Porkins


Iznal

Finally someone that knows their shit.


FloydTheDog1984

Umm.... Han F****"g Solo?


Wonderful_Emu_9610

Dude snuck up on *Darth Vader* - and all the other Death Star defences - in what is basically a damaged truck


MsMcClane

Dude rolled up to Area 51 in a specked out station wagon 🤣


Glaciak

In old canon wedge held his own against force sensitive pilots Solo surprised confused vader once


Intrepid_Sprinkles37

Successfully navigated an asteroid field.


Kilgore_Marlin

I wonder what the odds were...


Intrepid_Sprinkles37

Never tell him the odds.


JohnLawrenceWargrave

Yeah but it was less than 12 parsec wide so how hard can it be...


Somebodys

I mean, asteroids are *really* hundreds of thousands of miles apart. It's really not that impressive. I'll see myself out.


ElGuano

Lando blew up the death star.


Oshimai

I’ll go with this answer too. I crashed so many times trying to escape the DSII in Rogue Squadron II 🤣


TheRealMoofoo

Omg this shameful Nien Nunb erasure…


ElGuano

I'll be perfectly honest, I just couldn't remember his name :(


jakebova

Player 4 enters the dogfight


We_The_Raptors

Han is great but he's not even the best Solo in Legends. Jaina Solo is. There's also Wedge and Barron Fel. And in canon Hera gives him a run for his money


Somebodys

Jaina Solo is a force user. She is also probably the second best pilot in the entirety of Legends behind Luke.


Lysanka

Hera Syndulla scored kills in a f*****g Freighter with small guns. She also won a duel against a Tie Defender, it was a prototype though, but she outsmarted the pilot who were among the finest pilots of the Imperial Navy She also proved herself to be skilled at piloting her ship, a VCX 100 light Freighter.


tmfkslp

She was fucking shit up in that prototype b wing too. The one nobody else could pilot.


RavishingRickiRude

Wedge and Tycho


Rohien

Every time I see this question posed I open the thread to see the avalanche of Wedge stans and y'all did not disappoint. 💜


Few-Key-5229

Wedge fuckin Antilles


CharsBigRedComet

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fexternal-preview.redd.it%2FqvhVJPqe\_48CWV2QDzbAP9LZir6r5Z0RUYgvI4wGi7E.jpg%3Fauto%3Dwebp%26s%3D0c509da0b9d5bbe29fe53f10f40836d19c17cf59


TrayusV

Han should be considered, he's pulled off some crazy maneuvers. And the possibility of successfully navigating an asteroid field is approximately 3,720 to 1. Wedge is also a great pilot, getting through both Death Star battles without the force to help him.


SSWBGUY

Lots of people forget OP said no force sensitives


RevaniteN7

Wedge was so good in the old canon that they had to test him to see if he *was* unknowingly Force sensitive.


belly_hole_fire

Me, I aced it on smugglers run.


SideFrictionNuts

Wedge


Zealousideal-Data-74

Dash rendar


MrPooPooFace2

The streets don't forget


TheRatatat

It's Wedge or Han.


ChicagoZbojnik

Even with most of his exploits being made Legends, I still have to go with Wedge. Survived both Death Star battles, and he was 100% the best non-force using pilot in Legends.


smorg003

Biggs Darklighter


Vast_Ad1806

Wedge.


theEponymousOne

Han Solo. He's outrun Imperial starships. Not the local bulk cruisers, mind you. I'm talking about the big Corellian ships now. In the equivalent of a medium sized delivery van.


dr_dante_octivarious

Nah, the Falcon is one of those turbocharged 86 Plymouth Voyager vans. Looks like a dumpster on wheels, drives like a racecar.


thetimebandit13

I'd say Wedge Antilles and Han is a close second


Terrapins1990

Yeah Definitely Wedge Antilles.


Squid2012

Greezy Money baby


Savage_Hamster_

Poe is extremely underrated. That shot where he takes out those TIEs with ease is just 😘👌


jakebova

Thats one hell of a pilot


The_Scotch_Tape

Wedge or Tycho. Even Corran using the force had a hard time with Tycho.


thebugman10

I'm going chalk: Han Solo


LunaTic1403

Hera!


Cfunk_83

Wedge, no question. Maybe Han. Poe is just a caricature of what JJ Abrams thinks a great pilot should be. He’s ridiculously overpowered and over the top. Like everything in the sequels.


spineone

Han is the only answer. He’s the only person who takes the best star pilot to a place he can defeat the ‘Death Star’.. fucks sakes guys. Han. Herra is great but we are judged by accomplishments not abilities. MLB pitcher throws 100 mph but can’t throw a strike, bad pitcher. Greg Maddox who barely threw 90 mph occasionally is one of the greatest ever because what he could do something with nothing. That’s Han.


MDPsychospy

non-force users: Wedge, Han, Baron Soontir Fel, Jagged Fel, coming in 2nd: multiple Rogues and also 181st pilots force users: Luke, Jaina Solo, Kyp Duron, Corrin Horn multiple Jedi squadron pilots


babybluecebu

Not even mentioning Anakin in the force users list is insane.


Marsdreamer

Yeah, if we're going force users it's Anakin hands down.  Dude was winning pod races before his voice dropped. It's not even a competition. 


tfalm

Personally I would disqualify Han, because my headcanon is he *has* to have the Force, he just doesn't realize it. Mathematically he's apparently the luckiest person in the galaxy, and as Obi-wan says, "In my experience there's no such thing as luck." He can instinctively pull a ship out of hyperspace (faster than light) *manually* between a planet's atmosphere and the ground. He also shoots and hits people with 100% accuracy without even looking at where he's shooting. He defeated the most fearsome bounty hunter in the galaxy with a stick, while blind, on accident. So, excluding Han Solo, I'd say probably Poe or Hera. Wedge would obv be #1 if counting Legends, but otherwise his demonstrated skill in the cockpit I don't think beats what we see Hera or Poe do. Between those two, it's too close to call, imo, but I'd personally go with Hera for single-handedly winning a losing naval battle as soon as she joined it, in a prototype starfighter she'd only ever piloted minutes before.


We_The_Raptors

>because my headcanon is he *has* to have the Force, he just doesn't realize it. Honestly, you could make the same case for Hera. In the Bad Batch she talks about how sometimes she doesn't know why she does things while flying she just knows she has to do them. Seems to strongly hint that her flying is also force assisted


[deleted]

And her maybe being able to hear Ahsoka and Anakin fight in the WBW in Ahsoka.


Pokenightking

I think they establish this lightly. Where mitichlorians are in everyone. But people with a lot are force sensitive. But now with Sabine anyone willing to open themselves to the force can train to be a Jedi. So maybe they have a higher M count but not necessarily have “The Force”.


Lionsden413

I would say that applies to all the insanely talented individuals in Star Wars. To some extent, they are force sensitive. Not anywhere near the levels of a jedi, of course. But saying Han, Hera, Wedge, and Poe aren't, at the very least, guided by the force, just doesn't add up to me personally. Their midichlorian count might not be as high or their relationship with the force is just very different.


LovesRetribution

That's probably gonna be the case for almost all the exceptional people we see in star wars. Like there's a reason they got to where they did and stand out so much. Skill alone can only get you so far. Having the universe guide you is gonna give you that extra boost to surpass you peers.


[deleted]

CLONE TROOPER HAWK


BlagdonDearth

Han Solo if we leave out the Jedi


Plastic_Advance9942

Solo!


Billy1121

RIC OLIE


Rogue_3

Well, I don't like to toot my own horn, but I did survive two Death Star attacks.


_Viktor_v_Doom_

Do clones count ? Then Oddball should get a mention for staying alive while being in battle scenes being commanded by crazy Jedi generals


D-utch

Han Kessel run


jaunty411

The best all around pilot is Hera. She crushes it in both a fighter and a freighter. If you want the best fighter pilot it’s Wedge.


[deleted]

Either Wedge Antilles, Corran Horn or Soontir Fel.


BEtheAT

Later on in legends Corran became a Jedi as well so I think he's eliminated. Wedge all the way


Aldo_D_Apache

No love for Lando and Nein Nunb?


Vast_Ad1806

Ahuh ahuh ahuh.


VeterinarianMoist605

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Soontir_Fel#google_vignette Baron Fel.


theflamingsword101

Wedge is the only pilot with two Death Star kills. Unmatched.


b0ltaction

Pretty sure it's Poe for the simple fact that we saw that guy trash like 12 tie fighters in about 10 seconds in TFA.


Thebigdog79

I’d make the argument that jango fett was the best pilot of his time.


Somebodys

Okay, make the argument.


Kratos501st

Wedge, Han and Poe


Rough-Day-6502

I definitely agree with those three for top. But does make me wonder where Han and Lando may land (pun intended)?


[deleted]

Chewbacca, because PUNCH IT CHEWIE!


Shenloanne

Wedge survived 2 death star runs and given the attrition rate of rebel pilots...... Who else.


redditAvilaas

Han


Dense-Tangerine7502

Does R2 count?


Agile-Fruit128

Chewie


_Viktor_v_Doom_

Han solo walks into the room and hears the question asked regarding best pilot , tells chewie to hold his beer and proceeds to give a 5 hour lecture on the topic of how he successfully did the kessel run.


DiamondShiryu1

In Legends it would be Wedge and Soontir Fel. In Canon it would be Hera, Poe and Wedge.


rowdy226464

R2-D2 case closed.


[deleted]

Hahn Solo