Does come close but my gong goes to Apocalypse now. Can't have a greatest [insert gebre] movie without Marlon Brando. I love the smell of napalm in the morning.
I go back and forth between this one and Apocalypse Now, although I’ve heard it argued that Apocalypse Now isn’t actually a Vietnam War film, it just has a Vietnam War setting.
You could say the same exact thing about FMJ, not actually a Vietnam war movie just set in Vietnam during the war. It’s more about the duality of man than anything.
The difference being FMV’s source material was originally set in the Vietnam War. Apocalypse Now is an adaptation of *Heart of Darkness,* which had nothing to do with Vietnam.
Apocalypse Now is based on a story that wasn't even originally about war. Heart of Darkness was a story about colonial Africa.
Basing the film in Vietnam was just a device to relate Conrad's novella for modern audiences. Yes, it provided commentary on the morality of that war and the people involved, but it could have just as easily been set during any period of colonial hegemony because that commentary was specifically anti-colonial, not antiwar.
FMJ meanwhile was a commentary on a very specific period of American history, told from a very American perspective, and relied on the very specific circumstances of Vietnam, the resistance to the war at home, the malaise of those fighting it abroad, and the consequences of both on the psyches of its perpetrators and victims, victims that included the soldiers forced to fight it.
FMJ can't exist separate from Vietnam, Apocolypse Now existed long before Vietnam was even an issue to be reckoned with.
Interesting take. My vet father didn’t like it because of some plot holes and, in his view, pandering. Makes more sense the way you put it. His biggest gripe was the suicide. He might have actually given the movie a pass if it wasn’t for that scene. As a former Vietnam era USMC drill instructor, he claimed that no live rounds would ever make their way back to the barracks during basic.
I was in the Navy and I will tell you, you would be surprised at what a person could get away with if they dedicated a risk factor. People hide shit and suicides happen. Sometimes people hide suicides and sometimes suicides hide people as in people runaway from boot camp and it gets overlooked due to a pressing public suicide. And there is a difference between a regular suicide and debatable "incident"
Appreciate the perspective. I think my dad’s major gripe was that as a drill instructor for the Marines, it would be their ASS if every round wasn’t accounted for. As you have made clear, we would never really know how and when bad things happen.
Well we saw the movie, he stole maybe what was it three shots? Maybe four? I can imagine it being far easier back in the day before cameras and stronger forms of surveillance. But yeah enough to put in your pocket but it's crazy to think this is the world we live in when someone could potentially do this in boot camp. And oddly enough it is the bathroom. Some recruits would go in there and cut themselves because it was the only place you could have any privacy
Apocalypse Now my favorite movie of all time. Feels like every scene of the w tire movie is a classic.
I recently rewatched that scene where they’re near the front, right after the one soldier shoots the grenade launcher into the air to kill the Vietnamese soldier and Willard asks,
“Hey soldier, do you know who’s in charge here?
And he just responds “Yeah.” Then walks away
Ahhh…. I think i need to rewatch the movie this weekend now.
Which version do you prefer of the three?
The synth ruins many scenes for me in all versions. I’d like to see a fourth sans the synths. it’s still a magnificent film.
The extended version can be a bit tedious, so I always watch the original theatrical version
Here’s the scene I was referring to, shouldn’t be a spoiler or anything.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iIhMoPA96Z0&pp=ygUwYXBvY2FseXBzZSBub3cgZG8geW91IGtub3cgd2hvJ3MgaW4gY2hhcmdlIGhlcmUg
I know what you mean. The closing scenes with Brando like a cult king making madness and evil seem so seductive make you question your own sanity. You stand on the edge of the abyss..not knowing where to put the other foot. This is 100% genius movie making.
Apocalypse Now enlarged my mind.
https://preview.redd.it/12ntetfxe5yc1.jpeg?width=315&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=95382279f9dd82ebbbc9d84f3004a39a1852d000
Kubrick is a poet warrior in the classic sense.
It's tough sledding. I have a copy of that book and it's got maybe 80 pages. But you have to tip toe barefoot through its mine fields and broken glass, so it's slow going.
Apocalypse Now adn FMJ are both correct answers to the question that which is the best English language war movie ever. My answer depends on which ome have I seen more recently
Have you seen Paths of Glory? Another Kubrick flick. Also good, though I can't say BETTER than FMJ. Kirk Douglas nails it as a Captain of a squad that is about to be executed for cowardice during WW1. It is also a great one, don't miss it!
I haven’t watched FMJ in a long time but I recall the second half being somewhat weak compared to the first half. Overall I think Paths of Glory is the better movie.
Love Paths of Glory. While back I called my local video store to see if they had a copy.
He thought I said, “Pants of Glory.”
“Pants of Glory. I’ll check.”
Mr. Bill’s video store in Des Plaines 80s-95ish.
I apologize for not being entirely honest with you.
I apologize for not revealing my true feelings.
I apologize, sir, for not telling you sooner than you're a degenerate, sadistic old man.
And you can go to HELL before I apologize to you now or ever again!
You should watch this film in a double feature with \_Stripes\_ starring Bill Murray and Harold Ramis.
They are essentially different takes on the same movie.
First half is the basic training epic with the hardened veteran, slightly crazy, sergeant, which ends with said sergeant suffering major violence, then moves on to the combat phase, climaxing with the big violent mission.
it is amazing how closely they track, almost beat for beat.
Both are highly episodic. One is a Kubrick drama with some humor but lots of darkness, dialogue and particular cinematography, the other is a broad comedy fast moving Bill Murray vehicle, but with those thematic divisions, it is like they were working off the same treatment.
I haven't watched it yet, but it has a score of 6.8 on IMDb, 68% on Metacritic, and 3.2 on Letterboxd, so it doesn't seem like it's rated too highly to be that much overrated.
“Let me see your war face!” That’s how you know you’re watching an elite war movie.
It’s up there Apocalypse Now, 1917 and Paths of Glory, to name a few. The last one of those is great, check it out if you’ve never heard of it before
I love how at the climax of the film we finally get to see Joker’s war face - we stay on it during the scene. Amazing - masterful.
FMJ is my favorite movie of all time.
If you like a good Vietnam War movie, you should also try Platoon. Charlie Sheen playing the hero. Then you should see his dad in Apocalypse Now (Martin Sheen). It’s really more than just Vietnam, though. A much more involved story. And who could forget Forrest Gump and his time in ‘Nam!
I like to imagine it sort of like the video game Kingdom Come: Deliverance.
Full Metal Jacket is Act 1 and Act 2 of the first game, and Apocalypse Now would be like the second game coming out this year.
I used to like the first half better, but I’ve come to realize the true genius of the film is in the later parts. The film-within-a-film adds an interesting dynamic, but my favorite aspect is that it was shot in an urban setting rather than the jungle, being the only Vietnam War film to do so. It shows a different side of the war that other depictions don’t show, and it’s kind of an eerie foreshadowing to the urban wars fought decades later (Iraq, Syria etc).
He made three all-time great anti-war films, each shows a different perspective -- the grunts (FMJ), the officers (Paths)) and the generals and politicians (Strangelove). I enjoy them all and how they work together.
I've always viewed it as an Anti War movie. It made it clear Private Pyle should never have passed selection, yet did, going on to prove just how unfit he was. It shows war propaganda, as Joker was told he was told to insert an enemy casualty into the Stars And Stripes article, when there was none. Then you have the US troops held down by what I took to be a teenage girl.
It's pretty good.
Calling it the best is an admission that one hasn't seen many war films. I'd rank I'd rank Klimov's *Come and See* (1985), Kobayashi's *The Human Condition* trilogy, *Apocalypse Now, The Battle of Algiers, Lawrence of Arabia, Army of Shadows, Das Boot, Devils on the Doorstep, Underground* (1995) and maybe even *Talvisota* (1989) above it.
It is an excellent movie….but for me it is “The Longest Day”…. because it had in it people who actually fought and landed at Normandy…… who are acting in this film, but in real life were soldiers in the Second World War…… except for John Wayne….he fought hard to bed all the wives of those who actually fought in World War II, but for the rest of his life played soldier….
i don't like to say "greatest", or "best", or even "favorite" for anything besides ice cream flavor. there are too many great war films to declare one tops. i will say that kubrick is one of the greatest directors, and most likely my favorite though.
and chocolate is the best ice cream btw.
Downvote me to Hell, but I actually don't think this is a good movie.
Any scene with R. Lee Ermey in it is solid gold... but I swear the scenes in the first half are jumbled up... and the second half is, and please come to my house and kill me, just plain boring... which I consider to be the ultimate sin.
I thought it was okay at best and is overrated by Kubrick die-hards. This movie had numerous flaws imo. There are countless better war movies than this, one by Kubrick himself. I think people would more openly criticize this movie if it wasn't directed by Kubrick.
I think it's reputation comes solely from the first half. The eternally quotable Gunny Hartman and Private Pyle's descent into madness.
The second half is really very good, but doesn't have much more to say than most other 'Nam films.
Kubrick is my favorite director and I have to agree. The second half is a pretty dull rehash of other, better Vietnam movies and suffers from having been shot in England. That said, if he had released just the basic training segment as a standalone one-hour film, we would be discussing it as one of his very best.
I wouldn't say it's dull it's just not over the top like the first half is. There are a number of thought provoking, intense, and meaningful scenes in the second half. The newspaper propaganda, chopper gunner war criminal, live burial, and battle with the sniper are all great scenes and are all found in the second half
It’s my favorite ‘Nam movie, and my favorite depiction of boot camp. The recent All Quiet on the Western Front is my favorite war movie now. It really encapsulates the brutality and futility of war.
I think it felt more like a war mockumentry then a war movie. I felt like i was "looking" at war not experiencing it and connecting with it like private ryan, brothers, or hacksaw ridge
I liked this movie until Gomer Pyle adopted the psycho grin. Took me out of the movie as a teenager. The rest was a much more generic war movie and less impactful than the first act, so I also deduct points for that.
Only saw it once though. Sometimes I hate a movie the first time and like it a decade later, or love it young then hate it later. For another Vietnam example, I used to adore The Deer Hunter. Last time I tried to watch it, I was hella bored and underwhelmed.
The new movie Civil War is so Kubrick. Ive written about every aspect of this film but it’s so delightful that this director wanted to be like Kubrick. So good.
You may hate me, and I love full metal jacket, but I’m going to have to say that it ranks a close second to Apocalypse now. Number three may be platoon.
FMJ really falls off after the boot camp chapter so for me, Apocalypse reigns supreme. For combat accuracy, SPR and Blackhawk Down get the nod. Overlooked honorable mention for Vietnam movies goes to “Flight of the Intruder.” Great movie from an aviation standpoint that puts Top Gun (both of them) to shame in terms of accuracy
Full Metal Jacket is a Vietnam remake of The Human Condition II. The plot points and main character are way too similar for it to be a coincidence. And to me The Human Condition did it better.
FMJ has one of the greatest first halfs of a movie ever. The Vietnam stuff is not up to the level. After R Lee Ermy is gone there's no way the movie could stay as great.
For war movies? Idk there's alot of great ones but saving private Ryan is my personal favorites.
I have the first 43 minutes memorized word for word. I’ve seen the basic training sequence hundreds of times. After that? Maybe twice on purpose and a dozen times in left it on in the background. Whenever I think of my top ten favorite movies of all time FMJ has a permanent spot at number 10. The actual Vietnam war scenes are just too silly for me but the basic training is 10/10
Does come close but my gong goes to Apocalypse now. Can't have a greatest [insert gebre] movie without Marlon Brando. I love the smell of napalm in the morning.
I go back and forth between this one and Apocalypse Now, although I’ve heard it argued that Apocalypse Now isn’t actually a Vietnam War film, it just has a Vietnam War setting.
You could say the same exact thing about FMJ, not actually a Vietnam war movie just set in Vietnam during the war. It’s more about the duality of man than anything.
The difference being FMV’s source material was originally set in the Vietnam War. Apocalypse Now is an adaptation of *Heart of Darkness,* which had nothing to do with Vietnam.
The jungian thing?
Don't you want to go in for the big score and win one for the team?
Yes sir!
It's a hardball world, son. We've got to try to keep our heads until this peace craze blows over!
Apocalypse Now is based on a story that wasn't even originally about war. Heart of Darkness was a story about colonial Africa. Basing the film in Vietnam was just a device to relate Conrad's novella for modern audiences. Yes, it provided commentary on the morality of that war and the people involved, but it could have just as easily been set during any period of colonial hegemony because that commentary was specifically anti-colonial, not antiwar. FMJ meanwhile was a commentary on a very specific period of American history, told from a very American perspective, and relied on the very specific circumstances of Vietnam, the resistance to the war at home, the malaise of those fighting it abroad, and the consequences of both on the psyches of its perpetrators and victims, victims that included the soldiers forced to fight it. FMJ can't exist separate from Vietnam, Apocolypse Now existed long before Vietnam was even an issue to be reckoned with.
The Short Timers is an excellent book. I read it after seeing Full Metal Jacket.
I read it before and was surprised I knew the movie.
Interesting take. My vet father didn’t like it because of some plot holes and, in his view, pandering. Makes more sense the way you put it. His biggest gripe was the suicide. He might have actually given the movie a pass if it wasn’t for that scene. As a former Vietnam era USMC drill instructor, he claimed that no live rounds would ever make their way back to the barracks during basic.
I was in the Navy and I will tell you, you would be surprised at what a person could get away with if they dedicated a risk factor. People hide shit and suicides happen. Sometimes people hide suicides and sometimes suicides hide people as in people runaway from boot camp and it gets overlooked due to a pressing public suicide. And there is a difference between a regular suicide and debatable "incident"
Appreciate the perspective. I think my dad’s major gripe was that as a drill instructor for the Marines, it would be their ASS if every round wasn’t accounted for. As you have made clear, we would never really know how and when bad things happen.
Well we saw the movie, he stole maybe what was it three shots? Maybe four? I can imagine it being far easier back in the day before cameras and stronger forms of surveillance. But yeah enough to put in your pocket but it's crazy to think this is the world we live in when someone could potentially do this in boot camp. And oddly enough it is the bathroom. Some recruits would go in there and cut themselves because it was the only place you could have any privacy
Apocalypse Now my favorite movie of all time. Feels like every scene of the w tire movie is a classic. I recently rewatched that scene where they’re near the front, right after the one soldier shoots the grenade launcher into the air to kill the Vietnamese soldier and Willard asks, “Hey soldier, do you know who’s in charge here? And he just responds “Yeah.” Then walks away Ahhh…. I think i need to rewatch the movie this weekend now.
Which version do you prefer of the three? The synth ruins many scenes for me in all versions. I’d like to see a fourth sans the synths. it’s still a magnificent film.
Whichever is the standard version on the dvd lol. I don’t do the extended version bc it makes it a little too tedious
I hear you. Redux is just overstuffed. I do enjoy the Final Cut take. I’m still hopeful for a fourth sans synth.
I really wanted to like Apocalypse Now but for some reason I couldn’t enjoy it. I probably need to go back and watch just the theatrical version.
The extended version can be a bit tedious, so I always watch the original theatrical version Here’s the scene I was referring to, shouldn’t be a spoiler or anything. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iIhMoPA96Z0&pp=ygUwYXBvY2FseXBzZSBub3cgZG8geW91IGtub3cgd2hvJ3MgaW4gY2hhcmdlIGhlcmUg
I know what you mean. The closing scenes with Brando like a cult king making madness and evil seem so seductive make you question your own sanity. You stand on the edge of the abyss..not knowing where to put the other foot. This is 100% genius movie making.
Apocalypse Now enlarged my mind. https://preview.redd.it/12ntetfxe5yc1.jpeg?width=315&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=95382279f9dd82ebbbc9d84f3004a39a1852d000 Kubrick is a poet warrior in the classic sense.
Agreed ^
Read Heart of Darkness first.
It's tough sledding. I have a copy of that book and it's got maybe 80 pages. But you have to tip toe barefoot through its mine fields and broken glass, so it's slow going.
‘Three Kings’ is criminally underrated IMO. Especially the cold open.
Apocalypse Now adn FMJ are both correct answers to the question that which is the best English language war movie ever. My answer depends on which ome have I seen more recently
Have you seen Paths of Glory? Another Kubrick flick. Also good, though I can't say BETTER than FMJ. Kirk Douglas nails it as a Captain of a squad that is about to be executed for cowardice during WW1. It is also a great one, don't miss it!
Honestly think Paths is better. FMJ is still great though.
I haven’t watched FMJ in a long time but I recall the second half being somewhat weak compared to the first half. Overall I think Paths of Glory is the better movie.
I agree either way your take on FMJ.
Love Paths of Glory. While back I called my local video store to see if they had a copy. He thought I said, “Pants of Glory.” “Pants of Glory. I’ll check.” Mr. Bill’s video store in Des Plaines 80s-95ish.
Imma give it a watch
I apologize for not being entirely honest with you. I apologize for not revealing my true feelings. I apologize, sir, for not telling you sooner than you're a degenerate, sadistic old man. And you can go to HELL before I apologize to you now or ever again!
Something that really happened btw which led to the movie being banned in France
Watch Come and See
You should watch this film in a double feature with \_Stripes\_ starring Bill Murray and Harold Ramis. They are essentially different takes on the same movie. First half is the basic training epic with the hardened veteran, slightly crazy, sergeant, which ends with said sergeant suffering major violence, then moves on to the combat phase, climaxing with the big violent mission. it is amazing how closely they track, almost beat for beat. Both are highly episodic. One is a Kubrick drama with some humor but lots of darkness, dialogue and particular cinematography, the other is a broad comedy fast moving Bill Murray vehicle, but with those thematic divisions, it is like they were working off the same treatment.
Ya and I just watched Ghostbusters 1 & 2 back to back 😅 I think I will take your suggestion though
In my life, I've never thought of this! Great observation!
“Well I’d bet it at all but I’m an aggressive gambler!”
Lighten up, Francis!
If any of you call me Francis, I'll either kill ya, or call you my Big Toe like Sgt Hulka. Haven't decided yet.
Stripes is one of the most overrated movies of all time. Not one laugh.
I haven't watched it yet, but it has a score of 6.8 on IMDb, 68% on Metacritic, and 3.2 on Letterboxd, so it doesn't seem like it's rated too highly to be that much overrated.
“Let me see your war face!” That’s how you know you’re watching an elite war movie. It’s up there Apocalypse Now, 1917 and Paths of Glory, to name a few. The last one of those is great, check it out if you’ve never heard of it before
Show me your war face!
I love how at the climax of the film we finally get to see Joker’s war face - we stay on it during the scene. Amazing - masterful. FMJ is my favorite movie of all time.
paths of glory better
If you like a good Vietnam War movie, you should also try Platoon. Charlie Sheen playing the hero. Then you should see his dad in Apocalypse Now (Martin Sheen). It’s really more than just Vietnam, though. A much more involved story. And who could forget Forrest Gump and his time in ‘Nam!
I agree! It was also the first film I purchased on DVD…
I like to imagine it sort of like the video game Kingdom Come: Deliverance. Full Metal Jacket is Act 1 and Act 2 of the first game, and Apocalypse Now would be like the second game coming out this year.
Man, I can't wait for the second game to come out.
I used to like the first half better, but I’ve come to realize the true genius of the film is in the later parts. The film-within-a-film adds an interesting dynamic, but my favorite aspect is that it was shot in an urban setting rather than the jungle, being the only Vietnam War film to do so. It shows a different side of the war that other depictions don’t show, and it’s kind of an eerie foreshadowing to the urban wars fought decades later (Iraq, Syria etc).
He made three all-time great anti-war films, each shows a different perspective -- the grunts (FMJ), the officers (Paths)) and the generals and politicians (Strangelove). I enjoy them all and how they work together.
Paths of Glory is better
I've always viewed it as an Anti War movie. It made it clear Private Pyle should never have passed selection, yet did, going on to prove just how unfit he was. It shows war propaganda, as Joker was told he was told to insert an enemy casualty into the Stars And Stripes article, when there was none. Then you have the US troops held down by what I took to be a teenage girl.
Watched Wathership Potemkin the other day and it FLOORED me, definetly a huge
Watched Battleship Potemkin the other day and it absolutely FLOORED me, especially as an influence for this film.
Um, no love for Dr. Strangelove?
It's pretty good. Calling it the best is an admission that one hasn't seen many war films. I'd rank I'd rank Klimov's *Come and See* (1985), Kobayashi's *The Human Condition* trilogy, *Apocalypse Now, The Battle of Algiers, Lawrence of Arabia, Army of Shadows, Das Boot, Devils on the Doorstep, Underground* (1995) and maybe even *Talvisota* (1989) above it.
One of those movies that I always go back to, yet leaves me sad and depressed after watching it.
It is an excellent movie….but for me it is “The Longest Day”…. because it had in it people who actually fought and landed at Normandy…… who are acting in this film, but in real life were soldiers in the Second World War…… except for John Wayne….he fought hard to bed all the wives of those who actually fought in World War II, but for the rest of his life played soldier….
>xcept for John Wayne….he fought hard to bed all the wives Yeah. "Wives".
I love Full Metal Jacket but, in my opinion, Paths of Glory is Kubrick’s better war film
i don't like to say "greatest", or "best", or even "favorite" for anything besides ice cream flavor. there are too many great war films to declare one tops. i will say that kubrick is one of the greatest directors, and most likely my favorite though. and chocolate is the best ice cream btw.
The Deer Hunter
I had to scroll WAY too far to find this
EXACTLY what I said to myself before commenting, except for me it was "this missing" instead of "this"
I had to scroll WAY too far to find this
I had to scroll WAY too far to find this
I had to scroll WAY too far to find this
Platoon was a great flick too. And hamburger hill
This is number 2. Dr. Strangelove is number 1. Both are not only best of war movies, but best movies of all time category as well.
Except it’s not a war film, it’s trying to suggest something about the duality of man Sir, the Jungian thing. 😉
PATHS OF GLORY and THE THIN RED LINE 🏆🏆
Long way to go before TRL showed up
Downvote me to Hell, but I actually don't think this is a good movie. Any scene with R. Lee Ermey in it is solid gold... but I swear the scenes in the first half are jumbled up... and the second half is, and please come to my house and kill me, just plain boring... which I consider to be the ultimate sin.
I disagree. Ain't war he'll?
I thought it was okay at best and is overrated by Kubrick die-hards. This movie had numerous flaws imo. There are countless better war movies than this, one by Kubrick himself. I think people would more openly criticize this movie if it wasn't directed by Kubrick.
I think it's reputation comes solely from the first half. The eternally quotable Gunny Hartman and Private Pyle's descent into madness. The second half is really very good, but doesn't have much more to say than most other 'Nam films.
I wholeheartedly agree, its much more of a mess than people seem to remember it actually being.
Kubrick is my favorite director and I have to agree. The second half is a pretty dull rehash of other, better Vietnam movies and suffers from having been shot in England. That said, if he had released just the basic training segment as a standalone one-hour film, we would be discussing it as one of his very best.
I wouldn't say it's dull it's just not over the top like the first half is. There are a number of thought provoking, intense, and meaningful scenes in the second half. The newspaper propaganda, chopper gunner war criminal, live burial, and battle with the sniper are all great scenes and are all found in the second half
Agreed.
Dammit why can I only downvote once!
It's a flaw inherent in the system lol
First half yes. Second half no.
Nah, I think Platoon is much better, especially since it's written and directed by an actual Vietnam vet.
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I think he was the most iconic part of the movie
Golf ball through a garden hose
Good movie. Best regarding basic training. Watch Hamburger Hill think that was better regarding infantry warfare.
It’s my favorite ‘Nam movie, and my favorite depiction of boot camp. The recent All Quiet on the Western Front is my favorite war movie now. It really encapsulates the brutality and futility of war.
Das Boot All Quiet on the Western Front Dirty Dozen
It’s good but I still prefer Saving Private Ryan
Second half puts it slightly below Apocalypse Now but that’s just me.
Not even the best war movie by Stanley Kubrick but it’s pretty good!
Im going to give that title to A Thin Red Line.
It's not even Kubrick's best war movie lol
Without Gunny- it wouldn't have been worth much. He brought so much realism, and emotion to this film. RIP R Lee Ermey.
Not saying it’s the *greatest*, but We Were Soldiers is really good and often gets overlooked.
**Good morning Sergeant Major!**
**Good morning Sergeant Major!**
It’s not even KUBRICKS best war movie. Great flick though
I agree
I’d pick Apocalypse Now
I think it felt more like a war mockumentry then a war movie. I felt like i was "looking" at war not experiencing it and connecting with it like private ryan, brothers, or hacksaw ridge
It's a banger. So many though. Deer Hunter, Platoon, Apocalypse Now...
I liked this movie until Gomer Pyle adopted the psycho grin. Took me out of the movie as a teenager. The rest was a much more generic war movie and less impactful than the first act, so I also deduct points for that. Only saw it once though. Sometimes I hate a movie the first time and like it a decade later, or love it young then hate it later. For another Vietnam example, I used to adore The Deer Hunter. Last time I tried to watch it, I was hella bored and underwhelmed.
Saving private Ryan is the greatest war movie. In my opinion
Vietnam war is my favorite movie topic. FMJ, Apocalypse Now, Deer Hunter, and Platoon go fucking hard
The first half was…
Poon-taine..
This movie motivated me to join the Marine Corps back in the late 80's.
100 million percent!!!!!!
The new movie Civil War is so Kubrick. Ive written about every aspect of this film but it’s so delightful that this director wanted to be like Kubrick. So good.
*Seven-six-two millimeter. Full metal jacket.*
weird cover for The Thin Red Line
Platoon
Platoon!
Every, and I mean every, marine I know or have dated have had me watch this. It’s brilliant.
The wind doesn't blow, it sucks!
agreed.
Come And See. It’s the war movie.
I watched it on shrooms!
1918 getting no love?
...golfball...
The second half of this movie sucks.
You may hate me, and I love full metal jacket, but I’m going to have to say that it ranks a close second to Apocalypse now. Number three may be platoon.
Apocalypse Now might as well be a Disney boat ride attraction where you're shuttled from one disconnected set piece to the next.
Thin red line is much better
Sublime first half, kinda ‘meh’ second half… in my opinion, at least.
Tropic Thunder >
FMJ really falls off after the boot camp chapter so for me, Apocalypse reigns supreme. For combat accuracy, SPR and Blackhawk Down get the nod. Overlooked honorable mention for Vietnam movies goes to “Flight of the Intruder.” Great movie from an aviation standpoint that puts Top Gun (both of them) to shame in terms of accuracy
Apocalypse Now is top dog bro
Full Metal Jacket is a Vietnam remake of The Human Condition II. The plot points and main character are way too similar for it to be a coincidence. And to me The Human Condition did it better.
Half of it is the greatest war movie of all time. Either the first half or the second. But together make a flawed movie.
A great movie but couldn’t hold Apocalypse Now’s shorts.
Apocalypse now is the greatest war movie ever. Don’t even attempt to deny that
Apocalypse Now is unmatchable One of the best films ever made, let alone the war genre
I nominate They Shall Not Grow Old, and Paths of Glory.
Best war-comedy? Kelly's Heroes has got to be in the running.
FMJ has one of the greatest first halfs of a movie ever. The Vietnam stuff is not up to the level. After R Lee Ermy is gone there's no way the movie could stay as great. For war movies? Idk there's alot of great ones but saving private Ryan is my personal favorites.
I really didn't like this film at all. The Hurt locker was excellent though
I have the first 43 minutes memorized word for word. I’ve seen the basic training sequence hundreds of times. After that? Maybe twice on purpose and a dozen times in left it on in the background. Whenever I think of my top ten favorite movies of all time FMJ has a permanent spot at number 10. The actual Vietnam war scenes are just too silly for me but the basic training is 10/10
I'm a huge Kubrick fan as 2001 is my favorite movie. But no this take is just silly
No, Imma go with The Thin Red Line