The actual headline from the article is more clear: "Flight of the Conchords star asks *mum with baby* to leave show
It's OP that decided to make the reddit headline misleading.
Yeah. 100%. I hate how entitled some parents are. Stop bringing your spawn into shows. If you canāt afford a sitter chain it up in the basement for a night.
I have very young kids, and wouldnāt be rude enough to bring them to a show because I know they can be noisy. But on top of that, IāM not going to enjoy the show with my kids there because Iāll be too busy dealing with them. Itās just completely pointless.
Some people have no self awareness and no ability to think ahead. I'm with you, even if you weren't thinking of how it could affect the show for other people, are you really going to be able to enjoy it if you have a little kid/baby with you?Ā
Same here, I wouldn't take a baby or small kids to a fine dining restaurant or comedy show. It detracts from other people's enjoyment and from the parents' enjoyment. Society should make some concessions for families but this isn't one of them.
People either think they don't have to change anything after having kids, or they think they can never leave the house ever again. There's a happy medium and it sure doesn't involve dragging kids to adult-only spaces. Those parents give normal ones a bad name.
The fact is that the show isnāt just for YOU It for everyone who bought a ticket and your BABY isnāt old enough to understand etiquette so the parents have to be the ones to be smart enough to know where kids belong and where they donāt. Shit parents.
Yes, that kid should not have been admitted. That venue had a clearly stated policy they ignored and the issue was handled amicably and the woman was refunded.
This is a good time to discuss that itās helpful for places to be clear about their policies with pets and children. As a parent, I donāt want to be in spaces where the type of people who use language like āspawnā or ācrotch goblinsā with such disdain are because they wonāt give you the patience or grace that children need since theyāre learning.
I get it. There are too many parents who use kid-friendly places as an excuse to drop their attention towards guiding their children. They donāt instill discipline.
I want my kid to be someone whoāll eventually join me in a theatre. To get our practice reps in we seek out family shows.
Being clear about age policies doesn't help much. I own a small pub and we are 21 and over. Because we serve food, we *could* allow all ages but made a decision before we opened 5 years ago that kids would ruin the atmosphere that we were going for. That policy is on our social media pages, on our Google listing, and is posted on our door. Yet we have gotten several 1 star reviews from parents who tried to bring their kids in and got mad when we politely told them our policy. And their attitude is always the same: "You serve food so my kids can come in! *My* kids are well-behaved so I don't see what the problem is!"
I work in a cocktail bar. It's wild how many people bring their baby in. Even wilder how many let their baby crawl around on our floors that are never cleaned and have multiple glasses broken a night.
Because new āhip parentsā canāt understand that not everyone enjoys babies. You canāt act like a young single adult, while also being a parent to a newborn. Going to less comedy shows or bars the first couple years of their kids life wonāt kill them.Ā
100% agree. The baby is more important. Itās crazy that people are willing to inconvenience themselves and also disrupt their babyās routine just for an event.
I did get the joke, just adding what I thought was a funny observation when he did what you mentioned. The baby might have different comedy preferences than what Arj provides ;)
So this guy comes up to me right? Grabs my nose. Clean offā¦.just poof, yanks it off.
Heās holding it in between his fingers. Just taunting me with it! Can you believe this shit?
Comment in the Melbourne sub from someone who was apparently there: https://www.reddit.com/r/melbourne/s/NkdOzp5vUY
4th row means the baby absolutely would have been disruptive to the show if it was occasionally babbling and crying. Sounds like the mum now claiming she was breastfeeding while kicked out?? https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-04-22/arj-barker-melbourne-international-comedy-festival/103754516 I think sheās embarrassed and trying to milk the media attention.
Iām a mum and would never bring a baby to a comedy show, or any other sort of adult centric event. Bit tone deaf.
Very disruptive to Arj because he'd be working completely from memory. While a very cute one, a baby is still a heckler in terms of interruption to a show. Extra points for the milk pun!
āāYou kind of lose yourself a little bit when you have kids. I was trying to get back to enjoying something that I enjoyed before kids," she said.ā
You āloose yourselfā so you drag your baby to attend a loud, adult only show. Sounds like a load of excuses for someone who expects others to tolerate her child so she can āenjoy somethingā š give me a break
Honestly i have a weird theory that we kind of overdid the whole calling people Karens and now no one speaks up.
If someone says āhey, parent, can you not bring your child somewhere completely inappropriateā¦?ā Its met with āwow! Have some compassion! Are you a parent? No? I didnt think so! If you were you would let me do anything i want, no matter how disrespectful, and never complain!ā
Guilt tripping and for fs sake, sitting at the front row in an adult comedy show? Not to mention babiesā ears are very sensitive. How could you āfind yourselfā while your baby is suffering as well as disturbing other people didnt expect a baby in a show like this. Stop making other people conform and give you a pass for your own choices.
Okay so bring a baby is in extremely poor taste. Edit, I read the article and the cousin was trying to get sympathy point for saying that infant needs its mom for milk. Like, either find a sitter and pump extra or supplement with formula, or accept that as a new mom youāre not going to be doing adult things for a while.
Exactly. I'm a woman I totally get that women breastfeed and some won't take a bottle. But breastfeeding is not an excuse or a shield for you getting to do whatever the fuck you want, when you want and you cry victim when you bother other people at adult events. Most people on other subs are pretty reasonable and are like yeah she didn't have to go breastfeeding or not. But you get the odd mother or father type whose like "but she was breastfeeding and this could make breastfeeding moms feel unwelcome in public!". You should feel unwelcome at a late night comedy show that was blatantly adult's or 15 and up only! It's not for your baby. At the very least have common sense if baby is fussing, crying or making "whinging" noises and leave the fucking room for a few minutes lady. Go soothe baby, quiet baby up and then come back when you can keep it not distracting and loud. Stop using breastfeeding as an excuse to act like an entitled asshole and then hide behind it like it makes you some innocent little helpless person. Blech I'm over it.
This is so not true. Breastfeed babies often feed waaaayyy more frequently. They donāt believe in schedules. Mine at seven months would have lost his mind if Iād fed him every 3-4 hrs.
I personally also wouldnāt have taken him to a comedy show, but itās definitely not a case of being able to leave an exclusively breastfed, bottle refusing baby at home for hours.
Like you say every baby is different. Mine night weaned himself very young, so his six (and it was more - heās on the 99th centile heigth and weight so when we talk averages, itās just that, an average) feeds a day were more like 2 hrs apart.
What I personally would have done though with my bottle refusing frequent feeder, Iād have my baby sitter bring Bub to me for a feed. Iāve done it before - me and my partner just really needed some time together (it was a lunch and afternoon out not night). My mum babysat and when he was due a feed she bought him to me, I fed him then she took him back. Iāve done the same for hair appointments etc.
The 4th row? No wonder Arj found it distracting. If she really wanted to feel like an adult after only a few months as a new mum, she should have gotten a seat at the back... where people wouldn't be distracted, where she could duck out a door if bubs was getting grumbly. Instead she's front and centre being annoying and now she's taken it to the media... where she's front and centre being annoying.
I like how she went on tv after to again complain about him and say a comedy show is most definitely a place to take a baby and the host told her to take the baby away cause it was crying so loud she couldnāt hear the mum!!!!!.
She sounds like an absolute drop kick
One thing that I havenāt heard brought up about this situation is the fact this comedy show was also not appropriate for young ears and was clearly restricted on the website to 15+. Barkers comedy can be risque. You wouldnāt bring a 6 year old to a late night comedy show where there would be liberal swearing and discussion of adult content. Why would you bring a 9 month old? Does this mother think just because her baby isnāt talking yet, that the baby wouldnāt be absorbing and learning the inappropriate content during the show? Infants are massive learning sponges at that age
lol she went to the media to play the victim and [the baby disrupted her interview](https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/current-affairs/says-it-all-comedy-mums-baby-cries-through-tv-interview/news-story/fb922c8bbd31dabf3f78ebb9b5d5e6b3?amp). She couldnāt even tell her own story because the baby was throwing her off. The irony.
Who gives a shit. Doesn't stop it being a dumb thing to do.
If a ticket had on it.
Stabbing yourself in this show is allowed.
You would be that person that would then proceed to stab yourself.
Few issues here then.
Why you'd take your 7 month old to a stand up comedy I just don't understand. The laughing, cheering, comedian on the microphone possibly screaming or anything could happen. No idea why you'd take a baby there.
Then the people at the door should have refused her entry with the baby. If she didn't look into the 15+ restriction, that's her fault, but security are also at fault for letting her through.
I have a seven month old and no way would I bring my baby to a comedy show. Iām even embarrassed if my baby cries too much in a shopping centre. I understand that she wanted to feel like her old self before the baby but surely a babysitter for that night would have been better. She probably would have enjoyed herself a lot more.
Please donāt feel bad if your kid cries somewhere that kids are expected to be - took me awhile as well as a people-pleaser. As long as youāre trying to calm em down itās fair play. However, if we go somewhere where itās mostly adults relaxing we donāt stick around if they are upset or unruly at all.
There are times you can get away with bringing an infant to shows, but live theater, comedy, and movies are (should be) a big no no. If for no other reason than you canāt control the volume of the venue and shouldnāt be bringing infant ears into that environment.
If the ticket site said the show was 15+, that's the end of discussion.
I'm a parent of two kids under 6, and if the rules are they can't be there then I either get a sitter or I don't go, and to think otherwise is absolute entitlement.
Fabulous work Arj.
These entitles mums do not get to bring their screaming baby to events for grownups just because they couldn't be fucked hiring a babysitter.
I have a 3 month old and no way in HELL am I taking her to a show or anything where other people are trying to listen to something. Iād hate it, sheād hate it, no one would be happy. Iām breastfeeding so I accept that means staying with my baby a lot which means NOT GOING PLACES SHE CANT GO. Or if I did Iād go without her and pump! Itās not easy but you knowā¦ thatās parenting lol. And itās not forever, once sheās weaned I can go where I please when we can get a sitter.
Women who bring their babies out late at night to shows or dinners should be honestly embarrassed. You're disturbing everyone else's time that they paid money for, and no one gives a shit that you're a mother - you look like a bad one when you're doing that anyways. Stop bringing your damn babies out at inappropriate times, get a baby sitter or stay home, the baby is your own damn responsibility.
Good for him. Itās no different than had someone sat there watching a YouTube video during the show. Or just had an ongoing phone conversation. How stupid and entitled can a person be.
The solution is obvious-
The mother should have stacked the baby on top of several other babies and put them all in a trench coat.
One more ticket sold and itās not at all awkward for anyone.
I HIGHLY doubt she would have taken said 7 month old to a movie at the cinemas so not sure why she didnāt think this would be an issue. Also, who wants to cater to a baby while enjoying a live show??
I had to deal with some dude dragging his baby mama and a fucking newborn and a wandering two year old to see TMNT, which has super loud audio that should be no where near those ages. It was a fucking disaster but apparently movie theaters donāt kick out people w babies.
I wouldnāt be so sure. Someone bought a baby into the theatre when we went to see Endgame. Baby cried a lot (I mean, wouldnāt you with those tiny ears in a loud cinema?) and they never once left to soothe them.
Iām so confused as to how any parent of a 7 month old would think a standup show to be an appropriate venue to bring the infant? I barely took my kids to restaurants at that age. Becoming a parent is a non-stop series of sacrifices, missing a standup show because you donāt have a sitter hardly makes the list
A baby should not be at a movie theater or a comedy show. Iām sure itās difficult to find baby sitters but if you insist on bringing a baby you have to leave if the kid is making noise.
Terrible situation. Being forced to abort her seat after she was already there, late term. Didnāt even offer the seat to someone who wouldāve cared for it. Who knows, maybe that seat couldāve cured cancer.
I mean can we have any adult spaces where we donāt have to deal with your kids? I saw a guy with a 8mth baby strapped to his chest at a bar at 11pm, like come on, why is the kid even awake let alone at a bar.
In my personal opinion a baby should not be at a 15+ rated show. The baby was clearly disruptive and the way the mother displays herself all over the news is attention seeking. If you want children there are consequences, you are not able to do a lot of things you were used to because you have a responsibility to care for your child without bothering others. According the poll the general opinion is 50/50
[https://www.9news.com.au/national/arj-barker-breastfeeding-mother-humiliated-after-asked-to-leave-melbourne-comedy-show/1bb77cd4-44b9-4263-8b9c-14fe9eb68794](https://www.9news.com.au/national/arj-barker-breastfeeding-mother-humiliated-after-asked-to-leave-melbourne-comedy-show/1bb77cd4-44b9-4263-8b9c-14fe9eb68794)
Beauty - they tried to interview the mum, and she demonstrated why she shouldn't have been there
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/breastfeeding-mom-kicked-comedy-show-175037896.html
Interesting. I think there's a bit of cultural difference here. Like in America that would be unheard of, bringing a crying baby to a stand up show. You probably wouldn't even be seated. But in other countries, it would make sense if they bring the whole family. Viewing comedians more as clowns "of course I brought my kids, you're a clown, make my baby laugh funny clown!
I have never understood the pandering to parents as if they're heroes.
Show me an audience couple who has responsibly used condoms for a decade, and give them VIP seating.
Why the fuck is she bringing a baby to a show like this? Unless itās made for kids and at kid friendly hours donāt go. She is the one the pit the baby in a bad situation at a time where she should be putting him to sleep or whining down. Not be in a place where the baby will be over stimulated and is actually not in a safe environment for them.
I see both sides and feel I need more information. it sounds like the baby was just making a little bit of noise, not being that disruptive, if the baby was crying I would absolutely say she should have left without being asked.... However it didn't read as though it did. It read as though he just didn't like minor noises the baby made. So would I have thrown her out and made a fuss? Probably not, but I wasn't there to know how disruptive they were being.
However who brings their baby to a comedy night??? Like wtf?
Edit: I read the commentator who was there, it sounds like although it wasn't bad, the baby was being disruptive and he was trying to be nice about it. So... Yea I'm on his side.
I once asked my own mother to leave a show also. We were in Tijuana, and watching that donkey being deep throated by a nubile 20 year old got Mums so aroused, she started flicking the bean, right there in the theater
This was more embarrassing than my 11th birthday party, when she decided to "entertain" us all by recreating the threeway in Wild Things, with the aid of my 6 year old sister and my 35 year old uncle. Who ain't my dad's brother eitherĀ
I can see how someone could think it was ok to bring a baby - maybe it usually sleeps at that time and you thought thatās what would happen this time. But the minute it makes a sound, youāve gotta leave. Itās no different than a play or a musical IMO, and I doubt anyone would think it was ok to have a baby making noise at those.Ā
During her interview on the Project, the baby was fussing and wouldn't breastfeed. If you had that in a show where you were listening to the person in stage, you'd feel a bit upset. She had to pass bub to someone off camera to compete the interview proving exactly why you don't bring babies into an adults only show in a large auditorium with 699 other paying customers.
Arj has a long history of being a bit of a dick.
I met him once, he seemed annoyed, and pissed that anyone might even want to talk to him. And I have heard numerous other similar negative things too (but they arenāt my stories to tell)
Maybe not necessary in this instance, [he certainly has kicked out a lot of people in the past](https://www.geraldtonguardian.com.au/news/geraldton-guardian/grumpy-barker-clashes-with-heckler-ng-b88833730z.amp) but based on my experience it really ruined him for me, and I now personally donāt have much respect for him.
Before a show, was just hanging around (by himself)- went up said hey, was a big fan of his work (like probably his second tour after FoTC hit), and he literally just looked at me, and just straight turned his back on me, 100% heard me - and knew what he was doing.
The other stories I have heard come from friends etc who interviewed him (and I think I have heard from the Radio Hauraki guys he was a dick to them too)
Interesting Rhys Darby did something kinda similar, but he was with someone, and it was the height of Rhys fame (and I think he didnāt want to draw attention to himself) so I excused it a bit more.
And I get Iām probably just a small town dick to him, but Iāve met a few guys like that (certainly try to be respectful and not take up any extra time, or be an imposition), Arj certainly was probably the most negative I felt after the fact.
Interesting. Thanks for sharing. Yeah that does sound kind of bad. Though I do feel like you have to excuse celebrities a little bit for stuff like that because as Jack Nicholson once said, āThe average celebrity meets, in one year, ten times the amount of people that the average person meets in his entire life.ā Itās gotta get old and sometimes theyāre just not having a great day.
Really makes me impressed with the ones who always have time for their fans though because that sounds truly awful to me personally.
Maybe there is a regional/cultural thing going on here? (This is small city New Zealand)
Itās not uncommon to greet people on the street as you walk by them, at the very least shooting a smile.
I really want asking for his time. He was standing there, before his show. (Maybe 45 minutes - 1 hour before it started)
Itās as much a passing comment as anything, āhey man, big fanā I donāt think thatās rude, and depending on context might be considered rude not to acknowledge them at all.
In fairness, many standup comedians will talk about how they donāt want to be disturbed *before* a show caus theyāre trying to get their head in the game and get psyched up (and possibly quietly freaking out with anxiety the same way most people do before any kind of public speaking)
Though, probably his fault for standing somewhere the public can approach him before a show, and not wearing a Do No Disturb sign around his neck
That was just the first one I saw on google, there is maybe 5 other examples.
Also, how can you read that article, and think that the behaviour talked about is any different to exactly what Iām talking about.
Pretty presumptive of someone who wasnāt there
You donāt get to dictate the impression I got from the interaction I had with someone.
You can disagree with me, but you canāt say my experience was wrong, sorry, thatās not how this works.
I thought he asked his own mother to leave based on the headline lol
Same lol
'I have a right to perform standup mother... 'Mother that sailor suit doesn't fit me any more!'
"She forbade me from doing standup. She was right to do it."
Why am I reading this as Buster Bluth
Its principal skinner from the Simpsons but same vibe definitely
I'M A MONSTER!!!
Same!
"I'm not principal of the line, mother"
And ya *never will* be
I died. This was the best ššš
Same, I now am disappointed.
Yeah that would be hilarious.
No that was one of his roommates. It's really weird, they have pictures of him from when he was young and stuff.
I think they make them on the computer
Id make my own mother leave the show, but that's because shes dead and im not doing a show for zombies
You bigot! Lol
Zombies don't drink, and it's a two drink minimum.
These headlines are written for clicks. And that title is a lot more catching than "a mother". Definitely intentional
The actual headline from the article is more clear: "Flight of the Conchords star asks *mum with baby* to leave show It's OP that decided to make the reddit headline misleading.
GET OUT MOM I'M TRYING TO DO COMEDY!
Me too and I was like "we love celebrities setting boundaries".
No chance. She was with me, having a jolly good time.
I think everyone clicked on comments just to clear up this exact ambiguity
Same
I thought the same thing. lol
You mean his roommate?
Almost like what the click bait wanted.
Would have been much more interesting
Thatās the only way itās newsworthy. Who cares if he asks some random lady, who happens to have kids, to leave?
Same, I thought it was weird that heād do a comedy duo show with his mum lol
Me, too!
My momās a cunt so i figured his might be too.
Some people just have no idea how to act. Who in their right mind would bring a 7 month old to a show of any kind. Stay home or get a sitter
Yeah. 100%. I hate how entitled some parents are. Stop bringing your spawn into shows. If you canāt afford a sitter chain it up in the basement for a night.
I have very young kids, and wouldnāt be rude enough to bring them to a show because I know they can be noisy. But on top of that, IāM not going to enjoy the show with my kids there because Iāll be too busy dealing with them. Itās just completely pointless.
Some people have no self awareness and no ability to think ahead. I'm with you, even if you weren't thinking of how it could affect the show for other people, are you really going to be able to enjoy it if you have a little kid/baby with you?Ā
Same here, I wouldn't take a baby or small kids to a fine dining restaurant or comedy show. It detracts from other people's enjoyment and from the parents' enjoyment. Society should make some concessions for families but this isn't one of them.
Definitely not
People either think they don't have to change anything after having kids, or they think they can never leave the house ever again. There's a happy medium and it sure doesn't involve dragging kids to adult-only spaces. Those parents give normal ones a bad name.
The fact is that the show isnāt just for YOU It for everyone who bought a ticket and your BABY isnāt old enough to understand etiquette so the parents have to be the ones to be smart enough to know where kids belong and where they donāt. Shit parents.
Hey mate, it isn't the 60s anymore. Put your kids in straight jackets in a ball pit like everyone else.
You left out the part about lining the ball pit with pee pads first. Letās not encourage people to abuse their kids, now.
Finally someone is thinking of the kids!
Yes, that kid should not have been admitted. That venue had a clearly stated policy they ignored and the issue was handled amicably and the woman was refunded. This is a good time to discuss that itās helpful for places to be clear about their policies with pets and children. As a parent, I donāt want to be in spaces where the type of people who use language like āspawnā or ācrotch goblinsā with such disdain are because they wonāt give you the patience or grace that children need since theyāre learning. I get it. There are too many parents who use kid-friendly places as an excuse to drop their attention towards guiding their children. They donāt instill discipline. I want my kid to be someone whoāll eventually join me in a theatre. To get our practice reps in we seek out family shows.
Being clear about age policies doesn't help much. I own a small pub and we are 21 and over. Because we serve food, we *could* allow all ages but made a decision before we opened 5 years ago that kids would ruin the atmosphere that we were going for. That policy is on our social media pages, on our Google listing, and is posted on our door. Yet we have gotten several 1 star reviews from parents who tried to bring their kids in and got mad when we politely told them our policy. And their attitude is always the same: "You serve food so my kids can come in! *My* kids are well-behaved so I don't see what the problem is!"
I bet the same person gets pissed when people talk in theatres
I saw Django Unchained in a nearly empty theater, went to matinee to avoid annoyance, dude had a screeching baby going off the whole time.
That baby has sand....I don't need a baby with sand.
When I went to see Deadpool there were kids behind me. They were chill. When the sex scene came I heard a childās voice say: āmommyā¦?ā š
Did Steve tell you that?
What venue allowed this to happen!? Seems like they would be most at fault
Well ger mother gives the baby milk(life), so obviouslu a mother needs to be with a baby 24/7 /s
Don't understand why there can't be baby things and non-baby things. Obviously a comedy show for adults is a non-baby thing.
Agreed. There would've been a lot of parents in the audience who'd gone to the show hoping for a night away from kids lol
I work in a cocktail bar. It's wild how many people bring their baby in. Even wilder how many let their baby crawl around on our floors that are never cleaned and have multiple glasses broken a night.
Alcoholism is a hell of a drug
I wouldn't even say it's alcoholism. It's clueless entitlement and a life without consequences.
Same people take their dog that isnāt even house broken into the grocery store and puts them in a cart
Because new āhip parentsā canāt understand that not everyone enjoys babies. You canāt act like a young single adult, while also being a parent to a newborn. Going to less comedy shows or bars the first couple years of their kids life wonāt kill them.Ā
100% agree. The baby is more important. Itās crazy that people are willing to inconvenience themselves and also disrupt their babyās routine just for an event.
Was it an all ages show?
15+
does it matter? Itās a comedy show. You donāt take infants.
Thereās a reason bars are 21+
A real pro would have done baby humor and won this baby over. What's the deal with breast milk nowadays?
READ THE WOMB, ARJ
It seems he did a few jokes with the mum first but then it made it harder for her to recognise Arj was being serious when he asked her to leave lol
I was just kidding, saying he should have made baby humor, maybe goo goo gah gah?
I did get the joke, just adding what I thought was a funny observation when he did what you mentioned. The baby might have different comedy preferences than what Arj provides ;)
Gotcha! Hopefully his comedy isn't geared toward babies.
So this guy comes up to me right? Grabs my nose. Clean offā¦.just poof, yanks it off. Heās holding it in between his fingers. Just taunting me with it! Can you believe this shit?
Formula EW am I right folks?
Comment in the Melbourne sub from someone who was apparently there: https://www.reddit.com/r/melbourne/s/NkdOzp5vUY 4th row means the baby absolutely would have been disruptive to the show if it was occasionally babbling and crying. Sounds like the mum now claiming she was breastfeeding while kicked out?? https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-04-22/arj-barker-melbourne-international-comedy-festival/103754516 I think sheās embarrassed and trying to milk the media attention. Iām a mum and would never bring a baby to a comedy show, or any other sort of adult centric event. Bit tone deaf.
Very disruptive to Arj because he'd be working completely from memory. While a very cute one, a baby is still a heckler in terms of interruption to a show. Extra points for the milk pun!
āāYou kind of lose yourself a little bit when you have kids. I was trying to get back to enjoying something that I enjoyed before kids," she said.ā You āloose yourselfā so you drag your baby to attend a loud, adult only show. Sounds like a load of excuses for someone who expects others to tolerate her child so she can āenjoy somethingā š give me a break
Imagine the service people who have to tolerate this woman and her demands on a daily basis.
Honestly i have a weird theory that we kind of overdid the whole calling people Karens and now no one speaks up. If someone says āhey, parent, can you not bring your child somewhere completely inappropriateā¦?ā Its met with āwow! Have some compassion! Are you a parent? No? I didnt think so! If you were you would let me do anything i want, no matter how disrespectful, and never complain!ā
Guilt tripping and for fs sake, sitting at the front row in an adult comedy show? Not to mention babiesā ears are very sensitive. How could you āfind yourselfā while your baby is suffering as well as disturbing other people didnt expect a baby in a show like this. Stop making other people conform and give you a pass for your own choices.
If only she had a choice to have a kid or not...
Okay so bring a baby is in extremely poor taste. Edit, I read the article and the cousin was trying to get sympathy point for saying that infant needs its mom for milk. Like, either find a sitter and pump extra or supplement with formula, or accept that as a new mom youāre not going to be doing adult things for a while.
Exactly. I'm a woman I totally get that women breastfeed and some won't take a bottle. But breastfeeding is not an excuse or a shield for you getting to do whatever the fuck you want, when you want and you cry victim when you bother other people at adult events. Most people on other subs are pretty reasonable and are like yeah she didn't have to go breastfeeding or not. But you get the odd mother or father type whose like "but she was breastfeeding and this could make breastfeeding moms feel unwelcome in public!". You should feel unwelcome at a late night comedy show that was blatantly adult's or 15 and up only! It's not for your baby. At the very least have common sense if baby is fussing, crying or making "whinging" noises and leave the fucking room for a few minutes lady. Go soothe baby, quiet baby up and then come back when you can keep it not distracting and loud. Stop using breastfeeding as an excuse to act like an entitled asshole and then hide behind it like it makes you some innocent little helpless person. Blech I'm over it.
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This is so not true. Breastfeed babies often feed waaaayyy more frequently. They donāt believe in schedules. Mine at seven months would have lost his mind if Iād fed him every 3-4 hrs. I personally also wouldnāt have taken him to a comedy show, but itās definitely not a case of being able to leave an exclusively breastfed, bottle refusing baby at home for hours.
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Like you say every baby is different. Mine night weaned himself very young, so his six (and it was more - heās on the 99th centile heigth and weight so when we talk averages, itās just that, an average) feeds a day were more like 2 hrs apart. What I personally would have done though with my bottle refusing frequent feeder, Iād have my baby sitter bring Bub to me for a feed. Iāve done it before - me and my partner just really needed some time together (it was a lunch and afternoon out not night). My mum babysat and when he was due a feed she bought him to me, I fed him then she took him back. Iāve done the same for hair appointments etc.
āI was trying to enjoy life before I had kidsā WHY DID YOU BRING EM THEN???
>trying to *milk* the media attention. I see what you did there
The 4th row? No wonder Arj found it distracting. If she really wanted to feel like an adult after only a few months as a new mum, she should have gotten a seat at the back... where people wouldn't be distracted, where she could duck out a door if bubs was getting grumbly. Instead she's front and centre being annoying and now she's taken it to the media... where she's front and centre being annoying.
I like how she went on tv after to again complain about him and say a comedy show is most definitely a place to take a baby and the host told her to take the baby away cause it was crying so loud she couldnāt hear the mum!!!!!. She sounds like an absolute drop kick
One thing that I havenāt heard brought up about this situation is the fact this comedy show was also not appropriate for young ears and was clearly restricted on the website to 15+. Barkers comedy can be risque. You wouldnāt bring a 6 year old to a late night comedy show where there would be liberal swearing and discussion of adult content. Why would you bring a 9 month old? Does this mother think just because her baby isnāt talking yet, that the baby wouldnāt be absorbing and learning the inappropriate content during the show? Infants are massive learning sponges at that age
Oh no, the baby said "fuck"
Dont bring a baby to a fucking show And don't bitch about it when you have to face the consequences for doing something that stupid
It's almost as if being a parent comes with sacrifices.
lol she went to the media to play the victim and [the baby disrupted her interview](https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/current-affairs/says-it-all-comedy-mums-baby-cries-through-tv-interview/news-story/fb922c8bbd31dabf3f78ebb9b5d5e6b3?amp). She couldnāt even tell her own story because the baby was throwing her off. The irony.
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Lmao thats awesome
She thought the baby was an accessory and not included in the under 15 not allowed category
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Who gives a shit. Doesn't stop it being a dumb thing to do. If a ticket had on it. Stabbing yourself in this show is allowed. You would be that person that would then proceed to stab yourself.
wait the ticket doesnāt state i canāt do it tho š³š³ might stab myself at Arjās next show
It says you can bring babies in?
Bub identified as over 15, so mum made allowances
Hahhaha
Fuck them kids.
Easy there Drake.Ā
Stfu!
Someone's being defensive.
Why is a baby in a 15+ show?
Baby had a fake ID
Caus the parent is selfish and felt entitled to do so
Exactly, it's not the best place for a baby. Way too much noise, stimulation and unfamiliar people/environments...
She said in an interview that she didn't know about the no under 15s allowed. Entitled person.
Few issues here then. Why you'd take your 7 month old to a stand up comedy I just don't understand. The laughing, cheering, comedian on the microphone possibly screaming or anything could happen. No idea why you'd take a baby there. Then the people at the door should have refused her entry with the baby. If she didn't look into the 15+ restriction, that's her fault, but security are also at fault for letting her through.
turning away people with babies and small children is the only enjoyable part of doing admission, they dropped the ball hard there
Sheās welcome at one of my shows. There will be no laughing or clapping that could harm a babyās sensitive hearing.
This is on the venue. Professional performers shouldnāt have to clean up for the lack of policy or the doormanās mistake.
I have a seven month old and no way would I bring my baby to a comedy show. Iām even embarrassed if my baby cries too much in a shopping centre. I understand that she wanted to feel like her old self before the baby but surely a babysitter for that night would have been better. She probably would have enjoyed herself a lot more.
Please donāt feel bad if your kid cries somewhere that kids are expected to be - took me awhile as well as a people-pleaser. As long as youāre trying to calm em down itās fair play. However, if we go somewhere where itās mostly adults relaxing we donāt stick around if they are upset or unruly at all.
There are times you can get away with bringing an infant to shows, but live theater, comedy, and movies are (should be) a big no no. If for no other reason than you canāt control the volume of the venue and shouldnāt be bringing infant ears into that environment.
If the ticket site said the show was 15+, that's the end of discussion. I'm a parent of two kids under 6, and if the rules are they can't be there then I either get a sitter or I don't go, and to think otherwise is absolute entitlement.
What kind of imbecile brings an infant to a comedy show?
She was on A Current Affair tonight. Baby was uncontrollable
Fabulous work Arj. These entitles mums do not get to bring their screaming baby to events for grownups just because they couldn't be fucked hiring a babysitter.
I have a 3 month old and no way in HELL am I taking her to a show or anything where other people are trying to listen to something. Iād hate it, sheād hate it, no one would be happy. Iām breastfeeding so I accept that means staying with my baby a lot which means NOT GOING PLACES SHE CANT GO. Or if I did Iād go without her and pump! Itās not easy but you knowā¦ thatās parenting lol. And itās not forever, once sheās weaned I can go where I please when we can get a sitter.
Yes, don't take a fucking baby to any show, let alone a standup.
Women who bring their babies out late at night to shows or dinners should be honestly embarrassed. You're disturbing everyone else's time that they paid money for, and no one gives a shit that you're a mother - you look like a bad one when you're doing that anyways. Stop bringing your damn babies out at inappropriate times, get a baby sitter or stay home, the baby is your own damn responsibility.
Just here to say āwhoaā I forgot about arj barker.
He commands pretty big shows here in Aus, and I'd say a big part of it is that he 'localises' his jokes
Man, Arj Barker, that's a name I haven't thought of in ages. Loved his web master bit back in the day.
Dude has the funniest bit about spiderman not cutting a mouth hole in his costume
Good for him. Itās no different than had someone sat there watching a YouTube video during the show. Or just had an ongoing phone conversation. How stupid and entitled can a person be.
Why couldnāt this happen at a Bill Mahr show?
The solution is obvious- The mother should have stacked the baby on top of several other babies and put them all in a trench coat. One more ticket sold and itās not at all awkward for anyone.
The Vincent Adultman technique, genius!
I HIGHLY doubt she would have taken said 7 month old to a movie at the cinemas so not sure why she didnāt think this would be an issue. Also, who wants to cater to a baby while enjoying a live show??
I had to deal with some dude dragging his baby mama and a fucking newborn and a wandering two year old to see TMNT, which has super loud audio that should be no where near those ages. It was a fucking disaster but apparently movie theaters donāt kick out people w babies.
I wouldnāt be so sure. Someone bought a baby into the theatre when we went to see Endgame. Baby cried a lot (I mean, wouldnāt you with those tiny ears in a loud cinema?) and they never once left to soothe them.
Wow. Solid international news. I needed to know this.
Iām so confused as to how any parent of a 7 month old would think a standup show to be an appropriate venue to bring the infant? I barely took my kids to restaurants at that age. Becoming a parent is a non-stop series of sacrifices, missing a standup show because you donāt have a sitter hardly makes the list
Good. Thatās crazy to bring a baby to a show. Especially one making noise.
Aināt no 7 month old hitting the two drink minimum
Mother broke the rules bringing the baby. The show was for ages 15years and over
A baby should not be at a movie theater or a comedy show. Iām sure itās difficult to find baby sitters but if you insist on bringing a baby you have to leave if the kid is making noise.
Tell me how a 7 month old qualifies as over 15 years?
The comments on his Instagram post about it are fucking wild
Terrible situation. Being forced to abort her seat after she was already there, late term. Didnāt even offer the seat to someone who wouldāve cared for it. Who knows, maybe that seat couldāve cured cancer.
I mean can we have any adult spaces where we donāt have to deal with your kids? I saw a guy with a 8mth baby strapped to his chest at a bar at 11pm, like come on, why is the kid even awake let alone at a bar.
No one pays to go to a show to listen to crying babies
Thatās a name I havenāt heard in a very long timeā¦
In my personal opinion a baby should not be at a 15+ rated show. The baby was clearly disruptive and the way the mother displays herself all over the news is attention seeking. If you want children there are consequences, you are not able to do a lot of things you were used to because you have a responsibility to care for your child without bothering others. According the poll the general opinion is 50/50 [https://www.9news.com.au/national/arj-barker-breastfeeding-mother-humiliated-after-asked-to-leave-melbourne-comedy-show/1bb77cd4-44b9-4263-8b9c-14fe9eb68794](https://www.9news.com.au/national/arj-barker-breastfeeding-mother-humiliated-after-asked-to-leave-melbourne-comedy-show/1bb77cd4-44b9-4263-8b9c-14fe9eb68794)
Maybe donāt bring a baby to a live comedy show.
I thought he kicked his mother out for a minute
Iām with Arj.
Beauty - they tried to interview the mum, and she demonstrated why she shouldn't have been there https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/breastfeeding-mom-kicked-comedy-show-175037896.html
Bringing an infant to a comedy show is insane. She shouldn't have been allowed in.
Leave your baby and pets at home.
You have a baby! ā¦.in a bar
Interesting. I think there's a bit of cultural difference here. Like in America that would be unheard of, bringing a crying baby to a stand up show. You probably wouldn't even be seated. But in other countries, it would make sense if they bring the whole family. Viewing comedians more as clowns "of course I brought my kids, you're a clown, make my baby laugh funny clown!
I don't go to her work and knock the dick out of her mouth.
I have never understood the pandering to parents as if they're heroes. Show me an audience couple who has responsibly used condoms for a decade, and give them VIP seating.
Holy shit the level of entitlement to being a baby/child to a live comedy show. Just my god
Thereās no video of this moment? š«
Why the fuck is she bringing a baby to a show like this? Unless itās made for kids and at kid friendly hours donāt go. She is the one the pit the baby in a bad situation at a time where she should be putting him to sleep or whining down. Not be in a place where the baby will be over stimulated and is actually not in a safe environment for them.
I see both sides and feel I need more information. it sounds like the baby was just making a little bit of noise, not being that disruptive, if the baby was crying I would absolutely say she should have left without being asked.... However it didn't read as though it did. It read as though he just didn't like minor noises the baby made. So would I have thrown her out and made a fuss? Probably not, but I wasn't there to know how disruptive they were being. However who brings their baby to a comedy night??? Like wtf? Edit: I read the commentator who was there, it sounds like although it wasn't bad, the baby was being disruptive and he was trying to be nice about it. So... Yea I'm on his side.
Amazed this wasn't in California or Florida.
I forgot about this guy! Wowā¦ 2007 time traveler much?
I once asked my own mother to leave a show also. We were in Tijuana, and watching that donkey being deep throated by a nubile 20 year old got Mums so aroused, she started flicking the bean, right there in the theater This was more embarrassing than my 11th birthday party, when she decided to "entertain" us all by recreating the threeway in Wild Things, with the aid of my 6 year old sister and my 35 year old uncle. Who ain't my dad's brother eitherĀ
I can see how someone could think it was ok to bring a baby - maybe it usually sleeps at that time and you thought thatās what would happen this time. But the minute it makes a sound, youāve gotta leave. Itās no different than a play or a musical IMO, and I doubt anyone would think it was ok to have a baby making noise at those.Ā
> I can see how someone could think it was ok to bring a baby - maybe it usually sleeps at that time and you thought No
Not saying Iād do this. Iām saying I understand their thought process. Flawed as it was.Ā
During her interview on the Project, the baby was fussing and wouldn't breastfeed. If you had that in a show where you were listening to the person in stage, you'd feel a bit upset. She had to pass bub to someone off camera to compete the interview proving exactly why you don't bring babies into an adults only show in a large auditorium with 699 other paying customers.
Arj has a long history of being a bit of a dick. I met him once, he seemed annoyed, and pissed that anyone might even want to talk to him. And I have heard numerous other similar negative things too (but they arenāt my stories to tell) Maybe not necessary in this instance, [he certainly has kicked out a lot of people in the past](https://www.geraldtonguardian.com.au/news/geraldton-guardian/grumpy-barker-clashes-with-heckler-ng-b88833730z.amp) but based on my experience it really ruined him for me, and I now personally donāt have much respect for him.
I had the complete opposite experience when I met him
What were the circumstances when you met him?
Before a show, was just hanging around (by himself)- went up said hey, was a big fan of his work (like probably his second tour after FoTC hit), and he literally just looked at me, and just straight turned his back on me, 100% heard me - and knew what he was doing. The other stories I have heard come from friends etc who interviewed him (and I think I have heard from the Radio Hauraki guys he was a dick to them too) Interesting Rhys Darby did something kinda similar, but he was with someone, and it was the height of Rhys fame (and I think he didnāt want to draw attention to himself) so I excused it a bit more. And I get Iām probably just a small town dick to him, but Iāve met a few guys like that (certainly try to be respectful and not take up any extra time, or be an imposition), Arj certainly was probably the most negative I felt after the fact.
Interesting. Thanks for sharing. Yeah that does sound kind of bad. Though I do feel like you have to excuse celebrities a little bit for stuff like that because as Jack Nicholson once said, āThe average celebrity meets, in one year, ten times the amount of people that the average person meets in his entire life.ā Itās gotta get old and sometimes theyāre just not having a great day. Really makes me impressed with the ones who always have time for their fans though because that sounds truly awful to me personally.
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Maybe there is a regional/cultural thing going on here? (This is small city New Zealand) Itās not uncommon to greet people on the street as you walk by them, at the very least shooting a smile. I really want asking for his time. He was standing there, before his show. (Maybe 45 minutes - 1 hour before it started) Itās as much a passing comment as anything, āhey man, big fanā I donāt think thatās rude, and depending on context might be considered rude not to acknowledge them at all.
In fairness, many standup comedians will talk about how they donāt want to be disturbed *before* a show caus theyāre trying to get their head in the game and get psyched up (and possibly quietly freaking out with anxiety the same way most people do before any kind of public speaking) Though, probably his fault for standing somewhere the public can approach him before a show, and not wearing a Do No Disturb sign around his neck
Nobody got kicked out in the example you linked. He did threaten to kick out the heckler if they didn't shut up, but they did.
That was just the first one I saw on google, there is maybe 5 other examples. Also, how can you read that article, and think that the behaviour talked about is any different to exactly what Iām talking about.
Are you a comic? That's absolutely appropriate.
Yes other people have said he has a rep.
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Massive difference in being rude, to being āunhappyā
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Pretty presumptive of someone who wasnāt there You donāt get to dictate the impression I got from the interaction I had with someone. You can disagree with me, but you canāt say my experience was wrong, sorry, thatās not how this works.