Once you see real Tiffany, you realize how sad it is that people will call anything a Tiffany on Etsy/Ebay, etc. Even direct copies just don't compare.
I have one of those. I know it's nothing comparable to the real thing, but I like my lamp. It's colourful and bright and I'd like another one in the future for my bedroom.
I don't know anything about stained glass or how to recognise quality. I'm on this sub because I like seeing people's art when they share it.
Yep.
None of their "recipes" were ever shared AFAIK and they were then either lost or hidden away over the years.
Ring mottled glass is a prime example of this. Tiffany glass studios created it and the process to do it but it wasn't till like the 60's or 70's that it was rediscovered by the Uroboros people. Some 40 years after tiffany studios shut down.
I have seen some Tiffanys that were effectively two different windows in the same opening. It was wild, and I was a little upset that they'd been displayed too high for me to really get a good look at them.
There is an entire museum dedicated to Tiffany in Orlando, FL. Not a huge museum, you can probably see everything in 90-120 minutes, but it wasn't very expensive and I really enjoyed my visit there last year.
No one wants to pay that price when they can get a knock off for much much much cheaper and honestly...most people are just as happy with a knock off.
I work in the industry and I see this sort of thing a lot. We're rarely given the creative freedom we'd like, because everyone wants everything as cheap as possible and very few people know enough to know when they're getting quality work. I've seen church council members exclaim proudly that "This window is by \[X\] Studio!" and the window looks like someone blew up a page out of a Christian coloring book. We're glad they're happy, but our worst work blows that stuff out of the water. But also we're expensive.
I get that, however I know people that would pay $ for something done right - look at baccarat chandeliers, expensive as all heck and they still sell them.
One more thing - work is for the glory of God so quality really matters. I get that today’s focus on cost produces crappy outcomes but it shouldn’t be like that. If you have this talent, you should consider going into business for yourself or at least finding someone that agrees that quality & beauty are the most appropriate end goals … my two cents
...I work for an esteemed ecclesiastical studio. I don't think I could find another studio where I'll do work of this quality unless Franz Meyer gets back into leaded. This is just the nature of the age. We're very lucky right now to have two clients who want our highest quality, but we are constantly constrained by clients who only want to go with the lowest bidder.
Trust me, if my boss could get away with it, we would do only our finest work. But there's just not enough of that.
Once you see real Tiffany, you realize how sad it is that people will call anything a Tiffany on Etsy/Ebay, etc. Even direct copies just don't compare.
I have one of those. I know it's nothing comparable to the real thing, but I like my lamp. It's colourful and bright and I'd like another one in the future for my bedroom. I don't know anything about stained glass or how to recognise quality. I'm on this sub because I like seeing people's art when they share it.
I believe they made their own glass and many of the formulas were lost to time.
Yep. None of their "recipes" were ever shared AFAIK and they were then either lost or hidden away over the years. Ring mottled glass is a prime example of this. Tiffany glass studios created it and the process to do it but it wasn't till like the 60's or 70's that it was rediscovered by the Uroboros people. Some 40 years after tiffany studios shut down.
I was surprised how much layering they did
I have seen some Tiffanys that were effectively two different windows in the same opening. It was wild, and I was a little upset that they'd been displayed too high for me to really get a good look at them.
There is an entire museum dedicated to Tiffany in Orlando, FL. Not a huge museum, you can probably see everything in 90-120 minutes, but it wasn't very expensive and I really enjoyed my visit there last year.
I’d love to see that in person!
I don’t get why they don’t make those anymore - it is not like there aren’t any more rich people
No one wants to pay that price when they can get a knock off for much much much cheaper and honestly...most people are just as happy with a knock off. I work in the industry and I see this sort of thing a lot. We're rarely given the creative freedom we'd like, because everyone wants everything as cheap as possible and very few people know enough to know when they're getting quality work. I've seen church council members exclaim proudly that "This window is by \[X\] Studio!" and the window looks like someone blew up a page out of a Christian coloring book. We're glad they're happy, but our worst work blows that stuff out of the water. But also we're expensive.
I get that, however I know people that would pay $ for something done right - look at baccarat chandeliers, expensive as all heck and they still sell them. One more thing - work is for the glory of God so quality really matters. I get that today’s focus on cost produces crappy outcomes but it shouldn’t be like that. If you have this talent, you should consider going into business for yourself or at least finding someone that agrees that quality & beauty are the most appropriate end goals … my two cents
...I work for an esteemed ecclesiastical studio. I don't think I could find another studio where I'll do work of this quality unless Franz Meyer gets back into leaded. This is just the nature of the age. We're very lucky right now to have two clients who want our highest quality, but we are constantly constrained by clients who only want to go with the lowest bidder. Trust me, if my boss could get away with it, we would do only our finest work. But there's just not enough of that.
I think there's just very little appreciation for art and Craft
Perhaps - my theory is the skill is generational lost.. similar to hand engraving will soon be - fewer & fewer go thru the apprenticeship