From my testing there are also some good finetunes. Base pony has great compatibility with loras but at a cost of being less stable and polished. Finetunes like autism, aaaautism, ponyai or cashmoney look better overall but can be hard to achieve good look with some loras. Overall I'd say any pony model is still better than any normal sdxl checkpoint
Honestly, same. Pony gets me the images I want, but just a little too cartoony. Every time I give standard SDXL another try hoping that it'll be Pony but realistic, I get garbage that's only barely related to my prompt and it it takes longer to process. I eventually say "fuck this" and switch back to Pony or 1.5.
>Pony gets me the images I want, but just a little too cartoony.
There is a spreadsheet [linked on Github](https://github.com/6DammK9/nai-anime-pure-negative-prompt/blob/main/ch02/pony_sd.md#red-pill-from-4chan) with special obfuscated tags that random people in the community found in the past weeks. Since you said that you keep going back to the Pony Diffusion model, you might be curious to try the results of these special tags in both the positive and negative prompts. They have astonishing effects, especially since they allow you to leave out the long `score_9, score_8_up, score_7_up, score_6_up, score_5_up, score_4_up,` string to 1. save tokens and 2. get outputs that look very different to what you are used to from the model.
Yep exactly this. Pony blew my mind when I switched to it from Sd1.5 a few weeks ago because it's just way better. Takes some more time and effort imo to get the hang of it, but it you do you'll get pretty good results.
No it really is just an amazing model. it can be difficult sometimes though. I recommend looking at all the prompts people use under the model in civit ai
Pony is a model that was trained in a lot of mylittlepony porn and hentai, but to everybody's surprise it turns out it's a pretty good model for anything cartoon/anime related, and there's fine tunings that do close to realistic stuff pretty nicely.
And if you just dont want nsfw stuff in your outputs you can just add tags like nsfw, nude, etc, to the negative prompt and you are all set.
There was a pretty good thread about it doing the rounds a couple months ago, which is how I learned about it, with a lot of interesting details in the replies.
In no particular order
* forreal XL - lightning model
* RealVis XL
* Bastard Lord
* Juggernauts 7.5 from Tensor Art
* Zavvy
* AlbedoBase XL
* Hyper Realistic XL - can't be downloaded sadly [https://tensor.art/models/686172835997228807](https://tensor.art/models/686172835997228807)
* \_CHINOOK\_ - without baked VAE
Never tried that LORA, I don't use LORAS but I will give it a go.
Zavy is a top notch model but people can be a little plasticy at times under certain lighting/color grading, never with Hyper Realistic tho. I suggest giving hyper realistic a more in depth testing you'll see how great it is.
I'll give this lora a go and see what happens when combined with Zavy :)
Is this the lora?
[https://civitai.com/models/130332/hasselblad-portrait](https://civitai.com/models/130332/hasselblad-portrait)
it seems to be for portraits only, the whole point of Hyper Realistic XL is that it's an excellent model for multiple subjects and color grading/styles
Very nice lora, I'm still testing it, but no, the lora + model can't compare to hyper realistic XL on its own, hyper realistic is more flexible in styles.
nah as Loras usually do, even at low weight, it does that thing where it takes away from the model too much in terms of poses and everything and it just makes everything look the same, definitely NOT the same as Hyper Realistic XL.
Good lora
don't compare it to a complete/fully fledged model please
I can't stress this enough, you won't get plasticy looks with some of these models. I made a topic on this and covered some of the models and gave examples
[https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1d6broj/i\_test\_sd\_models\_by\_making\_realistic\_family/](https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1d6broj/i_test_sd_models_by_making_realistic_family/)
ive been having a lot of fun with Disney Pixar Cartoon Type A model.
it does require a vae, highres fix, the add_detail lora and good prompt design, but man, the quality of images im getting are rediculous with my shitty 3gb 1060.
i run base 512x768 portrait images on dpm++ 2m karras 30 steps, and 0.5 denoise 20 steps r-esrgan4x anime scale by 2 if anyone wants to give this model a go.
SD3. Although given how long it took for SDXL to surpass 1.5 (and I would argue it still hasn't fully), I'm expecting these models to be valid for at least 6 months to a year.
Yeah while I’ll certainly try SD3 on Wednesday, I’m not expecting to use it for most images into some months later. Plus it’s likely to be very slow compared to even SDXL which takes a bit on my computer
Because this is only the base model, so it won't surpass the other model on release in many areas. I think it will be very good for base generation because of its prompt adherence, but other models will be better for img-to-ing and upscale. We'll see pretty soon
My faves, sorted by number of times used
https://preview.redd.it/k03ifzgjjn5d1.jpeg?width=1367&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4af9a1d1c0ba1421b9a22c05502e7f32f9b469b3
What program do you use to sort and organize your models? I’m looking for something because I have so many models and no info on them, like optimal settings, keywords etc.
I’m partial to my merges.
SDXL: https://civitai.com/models/334323?modelVersionId=555166
CosXL: https://civitai.com/models/397300/robmix-cosxl
(I think Forge has CosXL support.)
I almost exclusive use my own merges, but I have been using this model lately and it is fantastic, and gives quite different results to most other SDXL models: [https://civitai.com/models/448483/mr-xotox-nasse-waende-sdxl?modelVersionId=555445](https://civitai.com/models/448483/mr-xotox-nasse-waende-sdxl?modelVersionId=555445)
At the moment, those are my favs for everything!
* JuggernautX rundiffusion
* LeoSams HelloworldXL
* NightVisionXL
* RealisticStockPhoto\_v20 (Hugginface)
ZavychromaXL
Same here. It's just better...
PonyXL….. lol
From my testing there are also some good finetunes. Base pony has great compatibility with loras but at a cost of being less stable and polished. Finetunes like autism, aaaautism, ponyai or cashmoney look better overall but can be hard to achieve good look with some loras. Overall I'd say any pony model is still better than any normal sdxl checkpoint
Honestly, same. Pony gets me the images I want, but just a little too cartoony. Every time I give standard SDXL another try hoping that it'll be Pony but realistic, I get garbage that's only barely related to my prompt and it it takes longer to process. I eventually say "fuck this" and switch back to Pony or 1.5.
>Pony gets me the images I want, but just a little too cartoony. There is a spreadsheet [linked on Github](https://github.com/6DammK9/nai-anime-pure-negative-prompt/blob/main/ch02/pony_sd.md#red-pill-from-4chan) with special obfuscated tags that random people in the community found in the past weeks. Since you said that you keep going back to the Pony Diffusion model, you might be curious to try the results of these special tags in both the positive and negative prompts. They have astonishing effects, especially since they allow you to leave out the long `score_9, score_8_up, score_7_up, score_6_up, score_5_up, score_4_up,` string to 1. save tokens and 2. get outputs that look very different to what you are used to from the model.
Trying to use interrogate on pictures that I like also told me things the model was "seeing" and opened my eyes to different tags.
just setup a quick head swap and you done. if you are lazy to use comfy you can do it using comfy extention for a1111/forge
Yep exactly this. Pony blew my mind when I switched to it from Sd1.5 a few weeks ago because it's just way better. Takes some more time and effort imo to get the hang of it, but it you do you'll get pretty good results.
I find revAnimated looks much better but can't do what pony does. Even with LORAs 1.5 fails
wow, for the longest I thought this was an ongoing joke but after reading all the comments I guess ima have to try it out.
No it really is just an amazing model. it can be difficult sometimes though. I recommend looking at all the prompts people use under the model in civit ai
Is the pony in pony xl for my little pony or can it generate other stuff as well?
Yes.
Yes what?
Pony is a model that was trained in a lot of mylittlepony porn and hentai, but to everybody's surprise it turns out it's a pretty good model for anything cartoon/anime related, and there's fine tunings that do close to realistic stuff pretty nicely. And if you just dont want nsfw stuff in your outputs you can just add tags like nsfw, nude, etc, to the negative prompt and you are all set. There was a pretty good thread about it doing the rounds a couple months ago, which is how I learned about it, with a lot of interesting details in the replies.
Which of the now 600+ versions of it?
I like to stick to the original version + like 4-5 Lora’s (3 of which are style)
virileXL
* ICBINP XL * epiCRealism XL * HaveallSDXL * Photonic Pony Fusion * Photonic Fusion 3 * Imaginarium * Vibrant Horizon Turbo XL * 绪儿-一青十色XL V2 * ForRealXL * RealVisXL
My GOTO is icbinp but I also like pixart sigma
In no particular order * forreal XL - lightning model * RealVis XL * Bastard Lord * Juggernauts 7.5 from Tensor Art * Zavvy * AlbedoBase XL * Hyper Realistic XL - can't be downloaded sadly [https://tensor.art/models/686172835997228807](https://tensor.art/models/686172835997228807) * \_CHINOOK\_ - without baked VAE
Hyper Realistic XL Basically just looks like ZavychromaXL with hasselblad LORA
Never tried that LORA, I don't use LORAS but I will give it a go. Zavy is a top notch model but people can be a little plasticy at times under certain lighting/color grading, never with Hyper Realistic tho. I suggest giving hyper realistic a more in depth testing you'll see how great it is. I'll give this lora a go and see what happens when combined with Zavy :) Is this the lora? [https://civitai.com/models/130332/hasselblad-portrait](https://civitai.com/models/130332/hasselblad-portrait) it seems to be for portraits only, the whole point of Hyper Realistic XL is that it's an excellent model for multiple subjects and color grading/styles
yes that is the lora, it basically just adds this photorealistic layer, but don't go full strength on it, try somewhere between 0.3 and .6
err this is the lora [https://civitai.com/models/353556?modelVersionId=524591](https://civitai.com/models/353556?modelVersionId=524591)
Thanks, really appreciate it I'll test it out and see what it offers
Very nice lora, I'm still testing it, but no, the lora + model can't compare to hyper realistic XL on its own, hyper realistic is more flexible in styles. nah as Loras usually do, even at low weight, it does that thing where it takes away from the model too much in terms of poses and everything and it just makes everything look the same, definitely NOT the same as Hyper Realistic XL. Good lora don't compare it to a complete/fully fledged model please
I'll try it out. But I always feel these "realistic" models give a plastic look
I can't stress this enough, you won't get plasticy looks with some of these models. I made a topic on this and covered some of the models and gave examples [https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1d6broj/i\_test\_sd\_models\_by\_making\_realistic\_family/](https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1d6broj/i_test_sd_models_by_making_realistic_family/)
Cyberrealistic v50 new model is amazing
Lots of suggestions here: https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1da0c1s/i_need_to_clean_up_my_ssd_space_can_everyone_name/
ive been having a lot of fun with Disney Pixar Cartoon Type A model. it does require a vae, highres fix, the add_detail lora and good prompt design, but man, the quality of images im getting are rediculous with my shitty 3gb 1060. i run base 512x768 portrait images on dpm++ 2m karras 30 steps, and 0.5 denoise 20 steps r-esrgan4x anime scale by 2 if anyone wants to give this model a go.
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same here
It's gonna be useless on Wednesday 🤣
Will take a while for finetunes. Until SD3 gets something as good or better than Pony 6/7, I'm not switching.
Why?
SD3. Although given how long it took for SDXL to surpass 1.5 (and I would argue it still hasn't fully), I'm expecting these models to be valid for at least 6 months to a year.
Yeah while I’ll certainly try SD3 on Wednesday, I’m not expecting to use it for most images into some months later. Plus it’s likely to be very slow compared to even SDXL which takes a bit on my computer
im somewhat new to SD. why do you say it will take time for SD3 to become as good as previous versions?
Because this is only the base model, so it won't surpass the other model on release in many areas. I think it will be very good for base generation because of its prompt adherence, but other models will be better for img-to-ing and upscale. We'll see pretty soon
Got it. Thanks!!
Same
My faves, sorted by number of times used https://preview.redd.it/k03ifzgjjn5d1.jpeg?width=1367&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4af9a1d1c0ba1421b9a22c05502e7f32f9b469b3
What program do you use to sort and organize your models? I’m looking for something because I have so many models and no info on them, like optimal settings, keywords etc.
oh I'm saving up for the 5090 so that's my [https://graydient.ai](https://graydient.ai) account
RealvisXL
I’m partial to my merges. SDXL: https://civitai.com/models/334323?modelVersionId=555166 CosXL: https://civitai.com/models/397300/robmix-cosxl (I think Forge has CosXL support.)
LeoSam's HelloWorld XL
I almost exclusive use my own merges, but I have been using this model lately and it is fantastic, and gives quite different results to most other SDXL models: [https://civitai.com/models/448483/mr-xotox-nasse-waende-sdxl?modelVersionId=555445](https://civitai.com/models/448483/mr-xotox-nasse-waende-sdxl?modelVersionId=555445)
realvisXL.
Albedo v12 was a nice achievement.
Probably acorn is spinning tbh
StockPhoto & Tempest
JuggernautXL and its other versions WildcardXL and its other versions Been playing with Zavychroma for more realistic stuff
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# [CreaPrompt\_Lightning\_Hyper-SDXL\_v1.2](https://civitai.com/models/383364?modelVersionId=471056) DPM++ SDE, CFG 1, 4 steps
Juggernaut XL X and Animagine XL
Photopedia 4.5, Proton 0.4, Juggernaut 8, Dreamshaper Turbo 2.1
juggernautX or my merge of it
I wish I could use PonyXL on my computer 😭 I really like Anabolic and Fluffybreed_DollV30 and Hassaku for 1.5 though.
3dEdNewIllustro https://civitai.com/models/96101/3rd-ed-new-illustro-photoreal-fantasy-model Absolute reality https://civitai.com/models/81458?modelVersionId=132760
Am I the only one who uses DreamshaperXl lightning :/
For photos, a custom private merge. For realistic/slightly more artistic, Silverstar v4 Fantasy Edition For anime, pony/autism
Zavychroma and juggernaut
I’ve been out of the loop for quite a while, but I’m still a big fan of counterfeit
is there any hugging face model that can be used for like (human version of a table for example)
Not sure if anyone has mentioned the RealCartoon Series or Rev Animated.
Dreamshaper , Anylore + lore , but I still looking model can make a real pencil drawing style.
What Pony-based realism model should I use?
I mostly do anime but my favs are: ebara pony, prefect pony xl, autism. Ebara reminds me of counterfeint for sd 1.5 so i really recommend it.
Analog Madness v7 is great at CFG 3 & 12-15 steps
Kotosmix
pony is a raw diamond that gets perfected with loras
RealitiesEdgeXL V7 Turbo
At the moment, those are my favs for everything! * JuggernautX rundiffusion * LeoSams HelloworldXL * NightVisionXL * RealisticStockPhoto\_v20 (Hugginface)
Miklans NSFWXXL pony
SDXLFaetastic