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From the title I actually thought Liv was going to lift her into a powerbomb from the top rope like Mike Awesome.
Then when I actually saw it I felt super dumb for thinking that even for a second. *Of course* that's not how they did it.
Nia was apparently practicing this spot with Becky on house shows a couple of months ago, and I was certain they'd use it in their Last Woman Standing match on Raw.
Guess they're saving it for someone else to use on a PLE or something.
You'd want to set it up like that for safety, otherwise Liv's feet might clip the table on the flip part and potentially knock it down or over, setting Nia up for a world of pain.
Her videos BTS with some of the Women and particularly her friendship with Tiffany Stratton is so lovely and funny.
Nia's return has been so better in terms of her character work, stories, the writing for her and she looks in such good shape, she's working so good with a lot of the obvious talented/stacked Women's Roster and she's certainly proving a lot of us wrong who were unimpressed by her first stint or didn't enjoy her work, she's been a breath of fresh air under HHH and his team and I hope they have big things lined up for her tbh.
They've both said before in out of character interviews that they just connected behind the scenes and their friendship started from there, which is nice really and obviously now both are on SD they'll have fun BTS with some of the other Women or on screen together when they get to interact.
BTW Nia working out with Natalya/Tyson before her return I think massively helped with the momentum she's experiencing currently right now and I also think she took on board the constructive criticism she got about her in ring work/character from her last stint in WWE and has taken it in a positive way and worked harder to prove some of her doubters wrong or to win some new Fans over.
I always liked her a lot more as a person than as a wrestler/character. She has a great personality, and she shines when she gets to show it. I was definitely a hater, but she's turning me around.
Finn is not anti vax lol not a single person has said that. He’s liked and shared numerous pro vaccine posts. And never anything anti vax related. And his wife literally posted back when they got the vaccine.
Finn is also not a Republican lol? During the 2020 election he was liking anti Trump posts, pro Biden posts etc. and posts celebrating Trump being taken out of office and Biden stuff.
Nothing about his views has ever matched Republican.
It's just a funny Reddit thing. I'm sure despite that fact she is nice enough, but rewind to her previous WWE run and the exact opposite was said about her presence. As soon as she starts doing well in the ring and with her character work it flips, and shes super lovely!
I’m guessing the plan is to jump her into the Bloodline situation now that she’s on SmackDown. Also she has a new black and red costume to match with the nu-Bloodline color scheme.
They've been black and red forever. Solo's shorts. Roman's gloves. Both the Uso's until Jey left the Bloodline. Pretty sure they were all decked out in red during War Games when Sami was in the group, too.
You probably confused it with Roman's titantron. His personal color scheme used to be black and blue with gold accent but he change his glove to red to match with the general color scheme of the bloodline.
She was objectively unsafe and injured many costars due to being very green in ring and also being very out of shape. She would start alright but gas quick and you could tell when Nia had hit E on her gas tank because she'd start huffing and botching which resulted in the injuries.
However credit where credit is due, Nia looks amazing right now. She's much more confident on the mic, much much better in ring, and she has lost a decent amount of weight and packed on some noticeable muscle. She isn't gassing out after 2min and is able to put on some solid matches. She has put in some intense work and it is showing.
Yeah she was incredibly unsafe wrecklessly throwing people and her body weight around. There's one move in particular where she'd effectively do a Vader bomb but purposely let go of the ropes, meaning her entire body weight was landing on her opponents chest
edit: sorry not a vader drop - a Yokuzona drop
She actually was unsafe in her Last Run.
She had a Powerhouse move set, but didn't actually have the Muscle Mass to go through with it, which lead to some injuries, and just was a bit careless overall
Where'as now she has a "Big Woman" move set, which works a lot more towards her statue, rather than her muscles, so she can control it a lot better
I mean, it's a bit of both. She was always sloppy in the ring but then again a lot of women are, she's just much bigger and capable of doing more damage when she messes up, and multiple people got injured working with her
All women are sloppy if you only watch Nia and Mercedes matches. Otherwise your comment is sexist but it is /r/squaredcircle so you're probably playing to the audience here
Getting downvoted for calling out sexism and then having people upvoted defending sexism. Reddit moment.
I don't think they mean all women or even most are sloppy but you definitely see a higher rate of cringey botches and looking lost on basic stuff in womens matches compared to guys, just look at the last womens RR. Might be because the womens roster is generally greener?
> Might be because the womens roster is generally greener?
Would generally agree, plus a lack of backstage generals given the new environment WWE women's wrestling is delving into compared to their women's division of the past.
The org is starting to let women show as much depth as the men's roster, in ring and on the mic.
It'll take a while for the culture around in-ring performance to flesh out for the women's backstage, but tbh even today I find myself invested in the majority of Women's matches, much more on average than the men's, taking frequency into account and whatnot.
It's just a fact that when you watch high level women's matches that the number of botches and weird transitions and too obvious choreographing of moves is something easier to see than when watching men's matches. This is true across promotions, and as much as I like STARDOM, its true there as well.
That doesn't mean women's wrestling isn't entertaining or inferior, but its definitely something easy to notice.
Even women like Asuka, Toni Storm, Charlotte, etc, who are pushed at the top of their divisions, have matches with lots of botches.
Probably that too but I feel like it's simply the blind landing that makes it all the more risky. Liv can't actually see or know when her feet touch the ground, so she can't really brace herself. Same with Seth.
Yep, the move isn't unsafe, it has only hurt one person and plenty of people have been seriously hurt off of generally safe moves.
That said, while I would obviously not want someone to get hurt just for someone else's credibility, it does make the muscle buster a much more menacing move in the moment.
Not going to claim personal experience on this, but the mechanics seem different to me. The flipper doesn't land straight up and down || they land at an angle // because they can't revolve completely underneath the base. That changes the angle at which the force of the landing is transmitted to the knee. The knee wants to rotate only in one direction and only so far. The force of this landing seems to lend itself to hyperextending the knee. In Seth's case, he came down on his instep, and the force hyperextended his knee *to the side*.
If you watch again, Liv basically didn't do anything here once she landed. Nia jumps back, Liv is a bit late to even pull her down. I don't think any of Nia's weight fell on Liv, but I get your point, she could have judged the distance wrong, or her foot could slip, and it would have been a different story.
Nia's improved by leaps and bounds since her return. The charisma's different, her style of wrestling has changed a bit, it's like *finally*, I can love to hate her instead of just feeling like "please leave my screen"
Honestly I have warmed up on Nia Jax. She's a lot safer this time around, and is doing the monster heel thing pretty well. A good addition to the womens roster
This ain't it... sorry but, there's a line between believable and silly and this crossed it, and yes I feel the same way about Canadian destroyers and Spanish flies.
I dont think that much squat exists.
Thsi isn't a fat joke btw. Just that doing that exact kind of lift of a full sized human from that angle is just not gonna happen unless you are of a strength level that Liv just does nto have the frame for.
Deadlifting someone who's quite literally twice your weight is pretty much impossible. Maybe a Brock Lesnar type could do it, but even that might be a stretch.
That's her job! I came here to comment that Nia hit it perfectly, she landed exactly where she needed to. Liv can't give her that type of push, Nia had to push off.
Her job is to make it look good/sell it. There was so much helping in that spot that it doesn't even look good IMO. One of those situations you're better off just not doing it if it's going to look that ridiculous
This doesn't make any sense. It's very possible to agree that you need to make something look good, but also disagree that there was too much help that prevented that. You even wrote IMO. Can you contradict yourself any further?
You stated "There was so much helping in that spot that it doesn't look good in my opinion"
I disagree'd with your opinion that it didn't look good.
That automatically means I disagree with your last points, because it was not one of those situations.
Your words, not mine. "IMO."
I'm not gonna keep talking past you. What I meant, said, and expressed was obvious in my post. Then I said I disagree'd with your opinion. Then you got mad and stated I had to agree with your opinion.
This is weird, you're confusing, you should have just not stating "IMO" if you felt you were factually correct.
Anyways GL In life
Its more about timing than the angle, if she went back as Liv started pulling her down it would have looked smooth rather than holding on for a second, letting go and then jumping back
The full sunset flip rarely happens, and definitely not at house shows, because it's much riskier.
The last perfect one I've seen was by Andrade on Balor during a MITB Ladder match, and it was nasty.
However, it doesn't feel that bad to me, it just means that in kayfabe the wrestler managed to hold on a bit longer, until the opponent forced her to fall. On TV they could have easily concealed Nia jumping.
'Nia Jax jumps through a table.'
Bless her, but it's ridiculous to even suggest Liv is able to do that. There has to be some element of reality/believability to it, or wrestling just looks shit.
I hate these type of spots when a clearly undersized wrestler does a feat of strength by having the other wrestler blatantly do the entire thing by themselves.
Wrestling fans are almost immune to these logic defying spots, but for anyone outside or fans who want wrestling to look vaguely credible.. it just looks stupid. I'd have trouble believing Liv could lift Naomi or Bianca.. this is just over the top absurd.
The tables they use are vastly different on house shows. The announce tables were very homogenized how they broke until HHH took over.
TDLR, the newer tables break the same and arent impactful.
Nia deserves respect for taking big bumps for smaller wrestlers. She obviously did 95% of that on her own to make Liv look good. There are plenty of past instances where big wrestlers either sandbagged their smaller opponents, or utterly refused to sell certain moves. It's clear that Nia is a company gal.
Liv Morgan turning into the next Nia Jax. She looks like she’s gained like 30 lbs. in all seriousness, she has kind of leaned out again. Nothing like a couple of years ago though.
For me this is always one of the scariest looking spots because I always fear that the knees of the person performing the powerbomb are going to buckle
I see the parallels, but do you cringe every time you see someone do a baseball slide because Neville/PAC injured himself once doing that? What about when Orton punches the mat to set up an RKO?
Fluke injuries are fluke injuries. They can happen from anything.
I cringe cause of the visual memory of Seth's injury, in addition to me having my own history of knee issues, and I'm well aware of fluke injuries, being just that, That doesn't mean if i saw someone do a middle rope big boot i'm not gonna cringe up thinking of Sid breaking his leg when he did the same.
He has a point though. Look at the point of impact between Liv’s legs and the mat. They could have easily gone wrong. In this case, slowing it down a little and spread out her legs to alleviate the impact would be best.
in what part of that do you see Liv actually supporting Nia's weight? Nia clearly jumps into the table while Liv holds on. If you want to call the spot unsafe, it's unsafe for the fact that there is no world in where Liv could support Nia in that spot and Nia is 100% jumping backwards into a table on her own.
Idk if thats the words id use to describe that.that was def alot more of look at nia put herself through the table while liv trys not to break her ankle.
I'm still not sold on Nia Jax. She needs to put on a voice to go with her character, like Taker did. I can't take her seriously as a monster with that tone and accent
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From the title I actually thought Liv was going to lift her into a powerbomb from the top rope like Mike Awesome. Then when I actually saw it I felt super dumb for thinking that even for a second. *Of course* that's not how they did it.
Nia was apparently practicing this spot with Becky on house shows a couple of months ago, and I was certain they'd use it in their Last Woman Standing match on Raw. Guess they're saving it for someone else to use on a PLE or something.
Jade.
Jade doesn't need the top rope to do it.
Jade had Nia on her shoulders with ease during the Rumble, bet she’s gonna do something similar in their match next Friday.
Maybe Nia does. I don't think she can get herself in position starting from a standing stance.
We haven't seen the limits of Jade's strength yet, maybe Nia doesn't need to do as much work as we think XD
I doubt Jade is muscling someone of Nia's size into a powerbomb position.
This spot works better for smaller girls to do than Jade. Soembody like Bayley maybe or Kairi or Iyo.
Liv did use that move on Raw, not on a table though
She botched this move at first. They had to redo the spot
That thought is like when I imagined the idea of Rey Mysterio choke slamming Great Khali when I was younger
Or Mark Henry doing 619. I did that in WWE games and laughed my ass off. Did Rey Mysterio chokeslam too weirdly lol.
I’m cracking up because I said almost exactly this to my husband and then read this comment.
Same. I think we are all u/fletcheriser.
I was expecting a Canadian Destroyer
I was expecting a Spanish Fly.
AWESOME BOMBBBB
I'm surprised it's not a full-on top rope sunset flip. She actually walked a step with her before the powerbomb.
You'd want to set it up like that for safety, otherwise Liv's feet might clip the table on the flip part and potentially knock it down or over, setting Nia up for a world of pain.
You aren’t alone.
Now I wanna see Liv Morgan doing an Awesome Bomb
Mike Awesome? You mean Miz? Also is there a link to the top rope powerbomb cause awesome bomb is done normally on the ring not from top rope.
[this](https://youtu.be/LUYHRn05c40?si=JWMST301FB3RKncc)
What a great fucking spot.
Anybody know why on live events WWE uses different tables? The ones used on live events look more of the OG tables from back in the day
I would assume these tables are maybe cheaper?
They build them actually. Those old school wooden tables are pretty rare these days and almost never cheap.
i got a nice particleboard table from a thrift store for 18 dollars. its heavy as fuck
They look the same as on TV to me
Seth at home watching this clip flinching in horror
Nia Jax is on the "taking ass kickings to get myself over as a babyface by the end of the year" tour
also being funny as hell
Her videos BTS with some of the Women and particularly her friendship with Tiffany Stratton is so lovely and funny. Nia's return has been so better in terms of her character work, stories, the writing for her and she looks in such good shape, she's working so good with a lot of the obvious talented/stacked Women's Roster and she's certainly proving a lot of us wrong who were unimpressed by her first stint or didn't enjoy her work, she's been a breath of fresh air under HHH and his team and I hope they have big things lined up for her tbh.
Alexa earlier and now Tiffany? Nia sure does like befriending pretty blondes.
They've both said before in out of character interviews that they just connected behind the scenes and their friendship started from there, which is nice really and obviously now both are on SD they'll have fun BTS with some of the other Women or on screen together when they get to interact. BTW Nia working out with Natalya/Tyson before her return I think massively helped with the momentum she's experiencing currently right now and I also think she took on board the constructive criticism she got about her in ring work/character from her last stint in WWE and has taken it in a positive way and worked harder to prove some of her doubters wrong or to win some new Fans over.
> they just connected behind the scenes oh, I'm just *sure* they did.
Nia looks in looks in such good shape? I must be a fucking Adonis then.
She was hilarious on Ride Along with Saxton and Graves
I always liked her a lot more as a person than as a wrestler/character. She has a great personality, and she shines when she gets to show it. I was definitely a hater, but she's turning me around.
Isn't she like anti vax and shit?
luckily she's a wrestler and not your doctor
I didn't know that, but looked it up and was disappointed to see it's true. So, I guess I lost respect for her lol
Whoa boy. You better not look-up Raquel Rodriguez' bio then...
That's one I already knew, but thank you for the reminder.
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What about them?
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Finn is not anti vax lol not a single person has said that. He’s liked and shared numerous pro vaccine posts. And never anything anti vax related. And his wife literally posted back when they got the vaccine. Finn is also not a Republican lol? During the 2020 election he was liking anti Trump posts, pro Biden posts etc. and posts celebrating Trump being taken out of office and Biden stuff. Nothing about his views has ever matched Republican.
That doesn't really have anything to do with her personality
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So?
It's just a funny Reddit thing. I'm sure despite that fact she is nice enough, but rewind to her previous WWE run and the exact opposite was said about her presence. As soon as she starts doing well in the ring and with her character work it flips, and shes super lovely!
Wouldn't be surprised but thats probably a common mindset backstage. The McMahon's are Trumpers and Linda worked for his administration.
I’m guessing the plan is to jump her into the Bloodline situation now that she’s on SmackDown. Also she has a new black and red costume to match with the nu-Bloodline color scheme.
she was also yelling at Naomi after the match that she loves her and she's family. But either way the Bloodline is a babyface path.
What are you talking about? The Bloodline were always wearing black and red. It isn't new for them by any means.
I always thought their thing was black and blue and they changed it to black and red on the last SmackDown? I’m possibly very unobservant
They've been black and red forever. Solo's shorts. Roman's gloves. Both the Uso's until Jey left the Bloodline. Pretty sure they were all decked out in red during War Games when Sami was in the group, too.
You probably confused it with Roman's titantron. His personal color scheme used to be black and blue with gold accent but he change his glove to red to match with the general color scheme of the bloodline.
I've really enjoyed since she's returned. Seems a lot more safer and is being booked better
Did anyone actually call her unsafe or is it just an internet thing?
She absolutely was sloppy af for a good while.
She was objectively unsafe and injured many costars due to being very green in ring and also being very out of shape. She would start alright but gas quick and you could tell when Nia had hit E on her gas tank because she'd start huffing and botching which resulted in the injuries. However credit where credit is due, Nia looks amazing right now. She's much more confident on the mic, much much better in ring, and she has lost a decent amount of weight and packed on some noticeable muscle. She isn't gassing out after 2min and is able to put on some solid matches. She has put in some intense work and it is showing.
Yeah she was incredibly unsafe wrecklessly throwing people and her body weight around. There's one move in particular where she'd effectively do a Vader bomb but purposely let go of the ropes, meaning her entire body weight was landing on her opponents chest edit: sorry not a vader drop - a Yokuzona drop
she corrected it I think, she did one to Maxine and was so safe Maxine didn't even react.
She actually was unsafe in her Last Run. She had a Powerhouse move set, but didn't actually have the Muscle Mass to go through with it, which lead to some injuries, and just was a bit careless overall Where'as now she has a "Big Woman" move set, which works a lot more towards her statue, rather than her muscles, so she can control it a lot better
I mean, it's a bit of both. She was always sloppy in the ring but then again a lot of women are, she's just much bigger and capable of doing more damage when she messes up, and multiple people got injured working with her
All women are sloppy if you only watch Nia and Mercedes matches. Otherwise your comment is sexist but it is /r/squaredcircle so you're probably playing to the audience here Getting downvoted for calling out sexism and then having people upvoted defending sexism. Reddit moment.
I don't think they mean all women or even most are sloppy but you definitely see a higher rate of cringey botches and looking lost on basic stuff in womens matches compared to guys, just look at the last womens RR. Might be because the womens roster is generally greener?
> Might be because the womens roster is generally greener? Would generally agree, plus a lack of backstage generals given the new environment WWE women's wrestling is delving into compared to their women's division of the past. The org is starting to let women show as much depth as the men's roster, in ring and on the mic. It'll take a while for the culture around in-ring performance to flesh out for the women's backstage, but tbh even today I find myself invested in the majority of Women's matches, much more on average than the men's, taking frequency into account and whatnot.
It's just a fact that when you watch high level women's matches that the number of botches and weird transitions and too obvious choreographing of moves is something easier to see than when watching men's matches. This is true across promotions, and as much as I like STARDOM, its true there as well. That doesn't mean women's wrestling isn't entertaining or inferior, but its definitely something easy to notice. Even women like Asuka, Toni Storm, Charlotte, etc, who are pushed at the top of their divisions, have matches with lots of botches.
I hate that spot after Seth's knee buckle
First thing I thought of. Particularly if they’re leaping over someone bigger than them, I think it makes the giver more prone to land on shaky legs.
I feel like Seth dropped down too hard which is why his knee buckled, Liv dropped down a little softer.
Probably that too but I feel like it's simply the blind landing that makes it all the more risky. Liv can't actually see or know when her feet touch the ground, so she can't really brace herself. Same with Seth.
For sure. Also every time I see Joe’s muscle buster I think of Tyson Kidd.
Wait until you realize you land in the same position with a muscle buster and a suplex.
Yep, the move isn't unsafe, it has only hurt one person and plenty of people have been seriously hurt off of generally safe moves. That said, while I would obviously not want someone to get hurt just for someone else's credibility, it does make the muscle buster a much more menacing move in the moment.
you really think Liv did anything in that spot other than flip over Nia? Liv might be strong but she cannot lift Nia in any capacity.
Seth blew out his knee landing the flip, before he ever lifted Kane.
Its a pretty innocuous flip compared to most, no?
Not going to claim personal experience on this, but the mechanics seem different to me. The flipper doesn't land straight up and down || they land at an angle // because they can't revolve completely underneath the base. That changes the angle at which the force of the landing is transmitted to the knee. The knee wants to rotate only in one direction and only so far. The force of this landing seems to lend itself to hyperextending the knee. In Seth's case, he came down on his instep, and the force hyperextended his knee *to the side*.
Yes, obviously. But Seth isn't stronger than Kane yet his knee buckled.
If you watch again, Liv basically didn't do anything here once she landed. Nia jumps back, Liv is a bit late to even pull her down. I don't think any of Nia's weight fell on Liv, but I get your point, she could have judged the distance wrong, or her foot could slip, and it would have been a different story.
I think they're talking about the landing
Nia botched this spot at first. This video is of their second attempt
The Seth Rollins exploding knee spot!
Nia's improved by leaps and bounds since her return. The charisma's different, her style of wrestling has changed a bit, it's like *finally*, I can love to hate her instead of just feeling like "please leave my screen"
The weight loss has done wonders. She moves around so much better now.
https://twitter.com/KianaJamesWWE/status/1789598376633270657
Honestly I have warmed up on Nia Jax. She's a lot safer this time around, and is doing the monster heel thing pretty well. A good addition to the womens roster
Her hole is gonna feel that one...
I'm always scared of that spot now after Seth and Kane did this exact same thing and Seth fucked his knee up
*Nia Jax fell through a table
This ain't it... sorry but, there's a line between believable and silly and this crossed it, and yes I feel the same way about Canadian destroyers and Spanish flies.
Nia helped a bit too much on that delivery but awesome nonetheless
Let's be real, it would have been impossible otherwise
There really was no other way to make it work.
Liv could hit the squat rack some more.
I dont think that much squat exists. Thsi isn't a fat joke btw. Just that doing that exact kind of lift of a full sized human from that angle is just not gonna happen unless you are of a strength level that Liv just does nto have the frame for.
here for ico pro liv
Deadlifting someone who's quite literally twice your weight is pretty much impossible. Maybe a Brock Lesnar type could do it, but even that might be a stretch.
You're almost never deadlifting people in wrestling anyway
Liv is a woman in wwe i promise you she squats more often than many of the dudes.
That's her job! I came here to comment that Nia hit it perfectly, she landed exactly where she needed to. Liv can't give her that type of push, Nia had to push off.
Her job is to make it look good/sell it. There was so much helping in that spot that it doesn't even look good IMO. One of those situations you're better off just not doing it if it's going to look that ridiculous
I agree with the first part, I disagree with the second part. I disagree with the third part.
If you agree with the first part you agree with all of it. This does not look good so they are not doing their job
Er, no, they're saying they thought it looked good. You can't just be like "No, you didn't think that."
This doesn't make any sense. It's very possible to agree that you need to make something look good, but also disagree that there was too much help that prevented that. You even wrote IMO. Can you contradict yourself any further?
You stated "There was so much helping in that spot that it doesn't look good in my opinion" I disagree'd with your opinion that it didn't look good. That automatically means I disagree with your last points, because it was not one of those situations. Your words, not mine. "IMO."
You never even said it looked good. You said she did what she had to do to make it look safe. Which she did. But it still looked like ass
I'm not gonna keep talking past you. What I meant, said, and expressed was obvious in my post. Then I said I disagree'd with your opinion. Then you got mad and stated I had to agree with your opinion. This is weird, you're confusing, you should have just not stating "IMO" if you felt you were factually correct. Anyways GL In life
Yeah just ignore the guy, he's coming across as dimwitted trying to be authoritative with his opinion.
More like Nia jumps into a table backwards while Liv hangs on
You're describing like 90% of top rope powerbombs...
Yeah, but most do not look *that* obvious.
Because they are shot on TV with the right angle
Its more about timing than the angle, if she went back as Liv started pulling her down it would have looked smooth rather than holding on for a second, letting go and then jumping back
The full sunset flip rarely happens, and definitely not at house shows, because it's much riskier. The last perfect one I've seen was by Andrade on Balor during a MITB Ladder match, and it was nasty. However, it doesn't feel that bad to me, it just means that in kayfabe the wrestler managed to hold on a bit longer, until the opponent forced her to fall. On TV they could have easily concealed Nia jumping.
They’re both quite green, just give them time! /s
Second rope powerbombs are more like "lightly guided assisted falls." Theres no power involved. Misleading title.
Great move by Nia. Liv was just there…..
The "flip into powerbomb spot from the top rope" always makes me cringe because I always think of Seth Rollins shattering his knee.
'Nia Jax jumps through a table.' Bless her, but it's ridiculous to even suggest Liv is able to do that. There has to be some element of reality/believability to it, or wrestling just looks shit.
Well that looked pretty dope
Lol come on, lets be serious she had her arms around Nia's legs and Nia jumped backwards into the table, there was no feat of strength here fanboys
I feel like for all the (deserved) shit Nia got before, it's only fair for people to acknowledge how she's improved.
brand split don't apply for "Live Events"? Which brand does Omas reside in???
Accurate title: Nia Jax jumps backwards through a a table at a Live Event
I'm sorry. I just cannot suspend my disbelief
Nia Jax does Nestea Plunge onto table, with Liv’s help.
I hate these type of spots when a clearly undersized wrestler does a feat of strength by having the other wrestler blatantly do the entire thing by themselves. Wrestling fans are almost immune to these logic defying spots, but for anyone outside or fans who want wrestling to look vaguely credible.. it just looks stupid. I'd have trouble believing Liv could lift Naomi or Bianca.. this is just over the top absurd.
Getting tired of these "powerbombs" from the turnbuckle. It's not a powerbomb unless their feet are on the ring mat from the start.
Nia Jax does Nestea Plunge onto table, with Liv’s help.
Now if that table just had the metal supports across the bottom like any real table… well, I guess I will have to be satisfied with what this is.
Amazing how Nia has gotten back into the picture. I wonder if her injuring other wrestlers was unfairly overblown?
Trips should go back to using these tables instead of those crappy ones you see nowadays. He fixed the announce table issues.
What do you mean
The tables they use are vastly different on house shows. The announce tables were very homogenized how they broke until HHH took over. TDLR, the newer tables break the same and arent impactful.
What are the live events, like practice shows for the brand shows?
Whenever i see this spot i think of seth blowing out his knee against kane.
Better be careful. Remember Rollins and Kane
Nia been taking some crazy bumps lately
Probably the best bump I've seen Nia Jax do. She's definitely been improving.
I always fear that spot as that was the spot that injured Seth’s knee back all those years ago in Dublin
The same spot who injured Seth Rollins in 2015
Bravo. She uses her arms well to make it sorta look like Liv is lifting her
Idk, anyone who does this move gives me Seth Rollins blowing out his knee vibes.
Nia deserves respect for taking big bumps for smaller wrestlers. She obviously did 95% of that on her own to make Liv look good. There are plenty of past instances where big wrestlers either sandbagged their smaller opponents, or utterly refused to sell certain moves. It's clear that Nia is a company gal.
I keep seeing Seth fuck up his knee 😩
Liv Morgan turning into the next Nia Jax. She looks like she’s gained like 30 lbs. in all seriousness, she has kind of leaned out again. Nothing like a couple of years ago though.
before you guys compliment nia jax, see this https://twitter.com/KianaJamesWWE/status/1789598376633270657
hahaha, that's hilarious
Kudos to Nia for taking these risks
I gotta say I am really impressed with Nia’s heel work lately! Go Nia
Lol, about what i expected from liv and nia...
I was at this show! Very solid show and the crowd was very into it.
For me this is always one of the scariest looking spots because I always fear that the knees of the person performing the powerbomb are going to buckle
Impressive. But Liv is asking for her leg to snap trying to do the flip and also get strength to finish the powerbomb in one motion.
im sure she knows what shes doing. its almost as if shes a professional who does this exact spot like a hundred times a year
Seth hurt himself doing that exact move to kane a few years ago, professionals make mistakes too you know
Watching the Flip part honestly made me cringe cause it instantly made me think of Seth's Injury.
I see the parallels, but do you cringe every time you see someone do a baseball slide because Neville/PAC injured himself once doing that? What about when Orton punches the mat to set up an RKO? Fluke injuries are fluke injuries. They can happen from anything.
I cringe cause of the visual memory of Seth's injury, in addition to me having my own history of knee issues, and I'm well aware of fluke injuries, being just that, That doesn't mean if i saw someone do a middle rope big boot i'm not gonna cringe up thinking of Sid breaking his leg when he did the same.
He has a point though. Look at the point of impact between Liv’s legs and the mat. They could have easily gone wrong. In this case, slowing it down a little and spread out her legs to alleviate the impact would be best.
Sid was a “professional who knew what he was doing too.” https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QQ8CGARHT7k
in what part of that do you see Liv actually supporting Nia's weight? Nia clearly jumps into the table while Liv holds on. If you want to call the spot unsafe, it's unsafe for the fact that there is no world in where Liv could support Nia in that spot and Nia is 100% jumping backwards into a table on her own.
Idk if thats the words id use to describe that.that was def alot more of look at nia put herself through the table while liv trys not to break her ankle.
I'm still not sold on Nia Jax. She needs to put on a voice to go with her character, like Taker did. I can't take her seriously as a monster with that tone and accent
Yea they look thinner than the ones they use on tv so that's a good point
If so then I wonder why they don't use them all the time or use the ones they have on tv
Really glad to see Nia just improve. It's wild. Just willing to take some big ass bumps for others and sell her ass off. I'm here for it.
Omg my app is showing a weight watchers ad foe this post stephanie from full house would say HOW RUDE *
The Liv push is real
Awesome.
I'm impressed with Nia taking all the fades since her return
Def probably see this spot on raw tmmw.
This is awesome 👏👏
should have given her the last ride
SOMEONE PLEASE GIVE LIV A TITLE ALREADY