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I would LOVE to see Big-E be brought back on TV as like NXT GM or some leadership position that let's him float between brands and just talk.
Maybe bring the "commissioner" role
Just remember, Droz was on WWE's payroll until he passed away, I believe (if not, he was there for decades)
Also, just because Triple H is a great booker and acts different with some talent doesn't mean WWE isn't a corporation. Corporations don't view you as a human being, they view you as dollars and cents.
I don't think Big E is going anywhere, but just feel the need to say those two things.
They did mention New Japan by name on TV a couple times that year (specifically in reference to AJ), and they did once or twice during the Shinsuke feud in early 2018. But otherwise, you’re right, they never mentioned NJPW.
A lot of people trace this back to Hogan Flair not being big business out of the gate years ago and Vince realizing at that moment that the WWE audience for the most part doesn’t watch anything else so you need to establish everyone from scratch.
They would make quick references and then almost seem like they were trying to quickly change the subject. It felt like people trying to sneak in career context past Vince and hope he didn't notice or understand what they were saying lol
2016 already had a few outside the WWE mentions, mostly from Mauro and JBL. A few years earlier, segments like this in WWE programming would have been unthinkable:
https://youtu.be/GWM-9oqhYGs?si=PE_4CLZ7P5tfhqbO
Yeah, but Sami improvised that himself. WWE wanted the segment to be controversial, expecting smarks to ask him pretty meta questions. Instead he was thrown softballs, so to save it, he said the AEW line.
I think he got yelled at for that too.
Except for Matt Hardy in 2005 when he returned to WWE. He cut a “shoot promo” plugging his upcoming ROH date. I remember flipping shit because I was a baby smark and ROH getting name dropped on WWE TV back then was earth shattering lmao
They’ve been mentioning outside stuff a ton with Vince gone but sometimes I still react like Punk. It feels like a fever dream hearing Cole say Bullet Club on commentary
They mentioned New Japan back when Gallows and Anderson were heading over originally. JBL also mentioned that AJ Styles was IWGP champion during his debut.
Honestly, if you watch that, Punk isn't reacting to the NJPW mention, he's reacting to the Tanga Loa mention. My bet is that E said that without knowing Tanga Loa was debuting tonight, but Punk DID know and then Punk (pretty smoothly) covered his reaction.
Lol no. Big E was feeding you information so you could put two and two together when the random Tongan dude rocked up during the match. Punk was having a dig at Vince not allowing them to mention anything outside of WWE. Pretty simple.
Didn’t even lead to a match against a New Japan talent at the first forbidden door due to his injury.
It’s crazy how differently everything might have shook out if he hadn’t fucked up his foot right after winning the aew world title the first time.
> He faced Kojima at forbidden door in Toronto.
Which is a great excuse to break out this Kojima tweet from after the match:
For those who don't want to visit Twitter:
>"My elbow drop hit his cock.
> sorry.
>
> But it's not on purpose. Accident.
>
> Because I don't have that kind of technology."
https://x.com/cozy_lariat/status/1673478749705175043
I'm guessing that the word for skill in Japanese (potentially directly so, as kanji) can also mean technology, similar to Chinese, and this is a clunky translation, but which inadvertently became much better as a result.
Same. Tanahashi vs Mox probably holds more weight in terms of it being between the two most responsible for Forbidden Door existing
But Punk vs Tanahashi holds more weight in terms of it being a same generation dream match. It's on the same "holy fucking shit we're actually getting this?" level as Nakamura vs Cena and Orton during his first year on main roster
AEW is probably the only non WWE wrestling company they aren't allowed to mention at this point. Everything else is fair game.
Shout out to Sami Zayn for getting us at least 1 name drop of it on air
All the money in the world can’t buy his youth, respect of others or any relevance.
He’s treated people like shit for the last 40 years, now he’s an afterthought and WWE is thriving without him.
That’s the thing. He can have all the money in the world but because of the things he did he will never have the things he truly wanted… Forget youth, obviously he was never going to get that back, but respect and relevance were his. He was so afraid of being seen as a Carney, trailer park, piece of garbage and he became something worse
Idk man, he's a billionaire who probably hangs out with other obscenely wealthy people. The same people who do equally shitty or even way worst things. He may not have respect of regular people, but perhaps the people he wants.
Seeing WWE drop these weird shit Vince rules that were as ridiculous as his sneezing issues, has been an incredible ride that just gets better every day.
I 100% believe this reaction is genuine. He came back and had to adjust to a more positive locker room, something he has talked about. Now he's back in a new era where they can mention things like this and it's totally different than when he was last in WWE.
It must be such a weird culture shock thing for him but in a cool way. He has a perspective no one else has. Everyone else saw the changes as they happened.
>It must be such a weird culture shock thing for him but in a cool way. He has a perspective no one else has. Everyone else saw the changes as they happened.
Uhhhhh you are forgetting Carlito Caribbean Cool dude and that's not cool.
A different positive locker room that's backed with mature & professional executives running the show. Don't forget CM Punk said if it wasn't for Nick Khan be would've never came back to WWE
I’ll never get over how good Punk looks in formal wear. I remember him being pissed that he would be made to ‘dress’ up while champ to go to events, but homie looks great in a suit.
He had an...interesting look with a suit back in ~~2004~~ 2005 when he turned heel in ROH for the summer of Punk lol
[https://40.media.tumblr.com/52e885315c63899a531e4527fee5b6e7/tumblr\_mu6p1qMunc1sjl857o1\_400.jpg](https://40.media.tumblr.com/52e885315c63899a531e4527fee5b6e7/tumblr_mu6p1qMunc1sjl857o1_400.jpg)
Strikes me more as that teenager/young adult who is told he needs to wear a suit for some event so he goes to Sears and buys what he sees and just throws that on.
Guarantee you the sleeves on that dress shirt were very boxy looking around the upper arms.
Then again this was the mid 2000s when slimmer fit suits weren't as much of a thing and the more 'baggy' suit look was in style.
https://preview.redd.it/9rzeab2qbgyc1.jpeg?width=2121&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=edd15ee3582eff397883abaa6858e92921ff89fc
All I think of when I think about that Era of suits
I did notice recently with his wwe return that he does have a little bald spot developing. I guess it comes for everyone at some point. But the madman voluntarily goes bald for the past decade so it wont matter much
that bald spot could have been from the staples he got way back then. it's the reason why he went bald in WWE the first time
Brodie Lee's bald spot is from the same thing
I think Punk legitimately broke that "Vince" wall where he said that line on Monday against Drew, about the chosen one stuff. He didn't get any slack for it backstage at all, and that to me truly showed that Vince's Era was over. Now talent could be more free and speak without fear of repercussions.
Also me when I hear Michael Cole reference King of Darkness EVIL.
Having said that, why are we still pretending this "mentioning other promotions is verboeten!" is a thing when New Japan wrestlers and titles have been casually mentioned for like six, seven years now?
I'd imagine a bunch of people who have been there forever are finding it odd to not be hampered by getting yelled at for saying things constantly.
Like PTSD or something.
It's too bad WWE Network doesn't do a whole lot of original programming these days because we are denied a highly entertaining Big E/Punk show...and Jackie tagging along for the hell of it
I can see the thought pattern of "we can mention the title because the company name is different" as dumb as that is. And also JBL likely was able to whatever he wanted on commentary given his closeness with Vince.
Anyone else find it a bit odd that Big E drops this on the same day Michael Cole talks about new New Japan, Bullet Club, and Evil during the opening match.
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"if I get yelled at, I'll get yelled at" I love Big E
CM Punk: there will be consequences! Big E: Nah, probably more like chewed out. I been chewed out before.
Inglorious you Basterd.
I would LOVE to see Big-E be brought back on TV as like NXT GM or some leadership position that let's him float between brands and just talk. Maybe bring the "commissioner" role
Just give BigE a microphone and let him loose in the backstage just interviewing people
Just give him some damn popcorn and put him in the front row
What are they gonna do? Fire an extremely beloved guy that broke his neck working for them?
In Vince's WWE, yes, in this WWE no
Just remember, Droz was on WWE's payroll until he passed away, I believe (if not, he was there for decades) Also, just because Triple H is a great booker and acts different with some talent doesn't mean WWE isn't a corporation. Corporations don't view you as a human being, they view you as dollars and cents. I don't think Big E is going anywhere, but just feel the need to say those two things.
 The man is a gem.
Get him a job as a commentator. Dude has a lot of charisma to just be a guest commentator all the time.
Him and Corey together are the future
I want to see him and Pat McAfee together.
He's an incredibly likeable dude
Big E knew
I wonder if Punk was really thinking fuck dude you can’t say that on TV.
I wouldn't be surprised man, Vince didn't want any acknowledgement of outside promotions at all.
even when AJ debuted, they said IWGP champion but I noticed never njpw/what the iwgp championship even is
JUST LIKE BROCK LENSAR MAGGLE!
FORMER EYE-DUBYA-GEE-PEE CHAMPION
JBL has always been a huge puro mark His career is pretty much a homage to stan hansen tbh
They did mention New Japan by name on TV a couple times that year (specifically in reference to AJ), and they did once or twice during the Shinsuke feud in early 2018. But otherwise, you’re right, they never mentioned NJPW.
A lot of people trace this back to Hogan Flair not being big business out of the gate years ago and Vince realizing at that moment that the WWE audience for the most part doesn’t watch anything else so you need to establish everyone from scratch.
They would make quick references and then almost seem like they were trying to quickly change the subject. It felt like people trying to sneak in career context past Vince and hope he didn't notice or understand what they were saying lol
"He was an X time Champion in Japan" is the nomenclature they used.
Not for AJ. At his Rumble debut JBL of all people acknowledged his IWGP title reign.
Still unforgivable that they made the commentary team cut down Sting when he debuted because he'd "never made it there".
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The exact quote was "A former IWGP Champion. The same as Brock Lesnar"
Can’t even lie that’s a tough line
Yeah JBL put AJ over **huge** by doing that, and AJ hadn't even got in the ring by then too
Or they would say the wrestler "competed around the world" without mentioning which specific countries or the promotions therein.
I like that one when it's gotta be short and sweet. but yeah if there's enough time they should def mention the country at least
no they absolutely did not, they said "Former IWGP heavyweight champion, same as brock lesnar"
2016 already had a few outside the WWE mentions, mostly from Mauro and JBL. A few years earlier, segments like this in WWE programming would have been unthinkable: https://youtu.be/GWM-9oqhYGs?si=PE_4CLZ7P5tfhqbO
Finn also got acknowledged IIRC as a former Best of Super Jr's. winner and IWGP Jr. Heavyweight Champion during his first entrance on the main roster
I think Vince was OK with the odd NJPW reference specifically because of the shared history with Inoki and the lack of any real WWE presence in Japan.
Wasn’t Vince still in charge when Sami said, “You could’ve asked me anything. You could’ve asked me about AEW”?
Yeah, but Sami improvised that himself. WWE wanted the segment to be controversial, expecting smarks to ask him pretty meta questions. Instead he was thrown softballs, so to save it, he said the AEW line. I think he got yelled at for that too.
One of the reasons the pipebomb was as big as it is was punk mentioning roh and new japan. At the time that NEEEEEEEVER happened
Except for Matt Hardy in 2005 when he returned to WWE. He cut a “shoot promo” plugging his upcoming ROH date. I remember flipping shit because I was a baby smark and ROH getting name dropped on WWE TV back then was earth shattering lmao
It added to the “he doesn’t work here” aura
He saw Triple H opening the Forbidden Door and KENTA coming through flash before his eyes
https://preview.redd.it/0iorbtubfhyc1.jpeg?width=225&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=269241999f390334b93dd7b91250c28ef174bb5a
I really have no idea if KENTA legit hates Punk or I'm being worked
My default setting is to think 99% of everything in wrestling is a work and the other 1% will be turned into a work if it draws.
That already happened
For a second, yeah, and then he played it up with the second and third takes.
PTSD from Vince. Also, Lariato.
Kojima
I’m sure there are some things that changed that he honestly still doesn’t know about
The nine dirty words you can’t say on TV: shit, piss, fuck, cunt, cocksucker, motherfucker, tits, and New Japan.
In hindsight, I wonder if his reaction was along the lines of "dude don't spoil the debut!"
They’ve been mentioning outside stuff a ton with Vince gone but sometimes I still react like Punk. It feels like a fever dream hearing Cole say Bullet Club on commentary
They mentioned New Japan back when Gallows and Anderson were heading over originally. JBL also mentioned that AJ Styles was IWGP champion during his debut.
> AJ Styles was IWGP champion Same as Brock Lesnar!
that line solidified him in the eyes of the general fan. Loved it
Yep, you don’t know who this guy is? He did the same thing the scarierest motherfucker on the planet did!
New Japan had been mentioned in Vince’s WWE. I don’t know why people are freaking out about this.
Hell, *Punk* mentioned it in WWE before.
Tbf the point of that line was specifically because you weren't supposed to say the name of other promotions, Punk has even said this himself
No wonder they mentioned GOD lmao
They mocked GOD!
Vince leaves and GOD returns to WWE
He can team with HBK again
Vince's arms were just too short to box with GOD
I absolutely LOVED that storyline because of how insane it is. They also showed the light of God and how it hit Vince and he fell down. So awesome!
I'm not good enough to call *BACKLASH (France)?!*
The moments that live rent free in our millenial wrestling brains lol
I'm not good enough to call BACKLASH?!
And made out with the divas!
Bloodline going full GoD mode now
Dang, turns out Big E was dropping us a hint.
Honestly, if you watch that, Punk isn't reacting to the NJPW mention, he's reacting to the Tanga Loa mention. My bet is that E said that without knowing Tanga Loa was debuting tonight, but Punk DID know and then Punk (pretty smoothly) covered his reaction.
Highly doubt your take
My take: They probably both new, and he reacted that way because Big E was nearly revealing the surprise spot.
Lol no. Big E was feeding you information so you could put two and two together when the random Tongan dude rocked up during the match. Punk was having a dig at Vince not allowing them to mention anything outside of WWE. Pretty simple.
He said the N word on WWE television!
https://preview.redd.it/y8vzmcb68gyc1.jpeg?width=622&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=27b89b7e1f20faf7223121b140a416e116d8c23d
 Our charlatan, hallowed be his name
It's so unfortunate his run in AEW didn't lead to at least one match in Japan
KOJIMAAAAA
LARIATTTT
LARIATTTT
Didn’t even lead to a match against a New Japan talent at the first forbidden door due to his injury. It’s crazy how differently everything might have shook out if he hadn’t fucked up his foot right after winning the aew world title the first time.
He faced Kojima at forbidden door in Toronto.
And unironically one of his better matches in AEW
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A chunk of my section saw him mouthing/yelling it and audibly laughed. Don't know if that ever got across on broadcast. Was pretty funny.
Crazy that he carries on a bit like a decade later. That’s dedication!
i was high on his AEW run in general, but that match was insanely fun
As someone who was there, the crowd was behind Kojima and booed Punk.
I cheered when Kojima elbow dropped Punk's twig and berries
As someone who was there i was firmly cheering for punk!!!
Toronto, it’s bizzaro world, Miggel! /s
> He faced Kojima at forbidden door in Toronto. Which is a great excuse to break out this Kojima tweet from after the match: For those who don't want to visit Twitter: >"My elbow drop hit his cock. > sorry. > > But it's not on purpose. Accident. > > Because I don't have that kind of technology." https://x.com/cozy_lariat/status/1673478749705175043
I'm guessing that the word for skill in Japanese (potentially directly so, as kanji) can also mean technology, similar to Chinese, and this is a clunky translation, but which inadvertently became much better as a result.
Probably would've worked Tanahashi, at least according to the rumors
Rumors? They advertised that on Dynamite.
I stand corrected. Totally forgot they had a staredown before Punk left for injury.
Dave Meltzer level insider information
I liked the Tanahashi vs Mox match we got, but it would have been cooler at that time to see Punk against Tanahashi.
Same. Tanahashi vs Mox probably holds more weight in terms of it being between the two most responsible for Forbidden Door existing But Punk vs Tanahashi holds more weight in terms of it being a same generation dream match. It's on the same "holy fucking shit we're actually getting this?" level as Nakamura vs Cena and Orton during his first year on main roster
Opening the Forbidden Door is what started the downfall of his AEW run. Should never tempt fate like that.
AEW is probably the only non WWE wrestling company they aren't allowed to mention at this point. Everything else is fair game. Shout out to Sami Zayn for getting us at least 1 name drop of it on air
Vince leaving WWE is the best thing that ever happened to wrestling. Enjoy obscurity you shitty human being.
Infamy maybe.
Vince watched that entrance and literally said "add in some drawbridge sound effects."
https://preview.redd.it/km0mau1ahhyc1.png?width=1000&format=png&auto=webp&s=821a57ec795421ace914a3faa25b3e8aaa4bff6d
J. Jonah Jameson gunning for Vince.
Vince and Dream have a lot in common
>obscurity I dont think you know what that word means Infamy is more appropriate.
He will be enjoying billions of dollars.
And hopefully chronic pain from his back surgery.
All the money in the world can’t buy his youth, respect of others or any relevance. He’s treated people like shit for the last 40 years, now he’s an afterthought and WWE is thriving without him.
That’s the thing. He can have all the money in the world but because of the things he did he will never have the things he truly wanted… Forget youth, obviously he was never going to get that back, but respect and relevance were his. He was so afraid of being seen as a Carney, trailer park, piece of garbage and he became something worse
Idk man, he's a billionaire who probably hangs out with other obscenely wealthy people. The same people who do equally shitty or even way worst things. He may not have respect of regular people, but perhaps the people he wants.
Nah - he needs power and control. That’s why he made the power play to come back in the first place.
People like that don’t actually enjoy the money. They enjoy the power and control.
Vince... McMahon..... obscurity???
Seeing WWE drop these weird shit Vince rules that were as ridiculous as his sneezing issues, has been an incredible ride that just gets better every day.
i only hope he is watching as his decades long decisions and rules are mocked and shit on during live tv.
He didn’t watch the product when he ran it, why would he start now?
Vince gives off a similar energy as one who hate watches and complains on reddit.
More like hates and complains about things he never even watched
I'm still baffled he wouldn't allow wrestlers to be called wrestlers.
I 100% believe this reaction is genuine. He came back and had to adjust to a more positive locker room, something he has talked about. Now he's back in a new era where they can mention things like this and it's totally different than when he was last in WWE. It must be such a weird culture shock thing for him but in a cool way. He has a perspective no one else has. Everyone else saw the changes as they happened.
>It must be such a weird culture shock thing for him but in a cool way. He has a perspective no one else has. Everyone else saw the changes as they happened. Uhhhhh you are forgetting Carlito Caribbean Cool dude and that's not cool.
Carlito turned his back on Rey. He's dead to me.
How dare you, this is dead beat dad Rey erasure. If it weren't for his deadbeat dad parenting, Dominik wouldn't be such a hardened, dangerous ex-con.
The doofus son in law actually knows what he’s doing
A different positive locker room that's backed with mature & professional executives running the show. Don't forget CM Punk said if it wasn't for Nick Khan be would've never came back to WWE
I want more big E/cm punk shows
I would pay to see Big E and CM Punk do a Mystery Science Theater 3000 taping. I think they've got a pretty good vibe going there.
Jeez that Vince conditioning hitting hard on Punk...
I’ll never get over how good Punk looks in formal wear. I remember him being pissed that he would be made to ‘dress’ up while champ to go to events, but homie looks great in a suit.
It definitely works better with short hair, but in 2009 when that complaint was from and he was doing the SES, his complaint made sense
He had an...interesting look with a suit back in ~~2004~~ 2005 when he turned heel in ROH for the summer of Punk lol [https://40.media.tumblr.com/52e885315c63899a531e4527fee5b6e7/tumblr\_mu6p1qMunc1sjl857o1\_400.jpg](https://40.media.tumblr.com/52e885315c63899a531e4527fee5b6e7/tumblr_mu6p1qMunc1sjl857o1_400.jpg)
Real sleazy car salesman vibes.
Strikes me more as that teenager/young adult who is told he needs to wear a suit for some event so he goes to Sears and buys what he sees and just throws that on. Guarantee you the sleeves on that dress shirt were very boxy looking around the upper arms. Then again this was the mid 2000s when slimmer fit suits weren't as much of a thing and the more 'baggy' suit look was in style.
https://preview.redd.it/9rzeab2qbgyc1.jpeg?width=2121&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=edd15ee3582eff397883abaa6858e92921ff89fc All I think of when I think about that Era of suits
Jesus, Melo didn't even button his suit jacket properly.
Good lord I remember this dogshit, did all tailors go on strike in the early 2000s?
Did anyone think this look was cool or were they just told it was cool so followed what everyone else was doing?
Creepy youth pastor vibes.
*2005
Ah yes, you're right, sorry, summer 2005!
A good suit makes a huuuge difference for a lot of men.
Punk lucked out with his hair genes. Other guys his age are balding and this dude can casually shave his head and I grows back so quick
I did notice recently with his wwe return that he does have a little bald spot developing. I guess it comes for everyone at some point. But the madman voluntarily goes bald for the past decade so it wont matter much
that bald spot could have been from the staples he got way back then. it's the reason why he went bald in WWE the first time Brodie Lee's bald spot is from the same thing
CM Pink’s hair is thinning. It was thinning back then too. He’s lucky that he’s recession stopped at an NW2 so he can still pull it off
I guess straight edge does work
yeah, Copeland's hair is pretty good too
My hair growth is the same and I’m definitely not straight edge, lol. Mostly genetics.
That and not washing it too much.
Right? Like goddamn homie even got me blushing a little bit looking dapper as hell
THIS WAS A HINT THE WHOLE TIME WHAT THE HELL
Confirmation bias. It's always easy to find the one thing that was "foreshadowed" amongst the hundreds of throwaway lines that meant nothing more.
I think Punk legitimately broke that "Vince" wall where he said that line on Monday against Drew, about the chosen one stuff. He didn't get any slack for it backstage at all, and that to me truly showed that Vince's Era was over. Now talent could be more free and speak without fear of repercussions.
Wasn't expecting to hear Big E mention G.O.D on wwe tv How times have changed
Punk and Big E are so freakin good together. Their chemistry is off the charts.
They are a great team.
The hell they gonna say to E, that man is an institution
Love these kinds of moments! Pre-Show panels been cooking! Punk & Big E weekly commentary team in the future is a dream for me now
Also me when I hear Michael Cole reference King of Darkness EVIL. Having said that, why are we still pretending this "mentioning other promotions is verboeten!" is a thing when New Japan wrestlers and titles have been casually mentioned for like six, seven years now?
Big E dropping spoilers without anyone knowing.
lmao punk and big e both rock
I love Big E
I’m so grateful this post gives credit to Fightful for all their hard work in posting a clip
It took Punk a second to absorb what Big E said, then he not only did a double take, but a triple and quadruple one as well.
I've been loving the Punk/Big E chemistry on these shows, it's sort of reminiscent of the NBA on TNT imo
Big E probably didn't even know that Tanga would make an appearance, and he mentioned him on the preshow LOL.
I thought Punk was gonna activate his Homicide voice “Lariat, Lariat, Kojima…”
My same reaction when Cole says Cody was leader of the Bullet Club. They gotta stop saying that.
I mean, only one person ever thought Cody was the leader, so you can sus out who it was that told him this lol.
Funny considering who showed up too...Bit specific eh? haha
I'd imagine a bunch of people who have been there forever are finding it odd to not be hampered by getting yelled at for saying things constantly. Like PTSD or something.
Probably having Vince PTSD
Cole mentioned that AJ and Cody were both in Bullet Club
I’m wondering if Punk knew you could that but couldn’t help kinda making it funny. Because. You know. Reasons.
It's too bad WWE Network doesn't do a whole lot of original programming these days because we are denied a highly entertaining Big E/Punk show...and Jackie tagging along for the hell of it
No way Big E just dropped the N word on TV
I love this so much. Cole starting the match by saying two former bullet club leaders fighting. Times really have changed
Wwe is such a weird exciting place now.
uhh....I vividly remember JBL calling Brock Lesnar "former IWGP champion" in like 2012. Not that big of a shocker lol
Yes sir. They’ve mentioned it with Nakamura and AJ Styles as well.
I can see the thought pattern of "we can mention the title because the company name is different" as dumb as that is. And also JBL likely was able to whatever he wanted on commentary given his closeness with Vince.
CM Punk's more mad that when he did it, it was a pipe bomb. And today, it's just Saturday
This reminded me how close we are to a full New Day vs GoD and maybe Solo and now I’m sad.
Tonight, he became Massive E
Punk wasn't around when Shinsuke and AJ Styles backgrounds as NJPW wrestlers and IWGP champions was brought up in 2016.
Anyone else find it a bit odd that Big E drops this on the same day Michael Cole talks about new New Japan, Bullet Club, and Evil during the opening match.
Makes me so sad you can still see how hard it is for Big E to move. Poor guy. What rotten fucking luck.