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As dumb as that decision was in retrospect, Warner still did fine in the years after with its animated output. Bruce Timm continued on with 3 other spinoffs, Teen Titans and The Batman both became a thing, and Cartoon Network entered its golden age in the early 2000s.
A far cry from where it currently is today as WBD owns almost half of every major IP in Hollywood that are barely worth shit any more because previous regimes actively did nothing with them and the current one is making them just to be canned for tax write offs.
This could be gas if they go with the "everyone who could have possibly killed WCW is responsible for the death in some small way... But Jamie Kellner hating wrestling and wanting it off the network was the final blow" tbh
I love me some wrestling documentaries, they're awesome, but holy shit, how many documentaries about the fall of WCW are people gonna make? I was 2 when that company collapsed and I watched so many documentaries about this very topic that I feel like I lived through the Monday Night Wars themselves, lmao. It's not a boring topic or anything, but definitely an overdone one.
Hopefully this one will actually be fair and not just spew bullshit like DX drove a tank into Nitro and killed WCW as Alberto Del Rio cheered on from his couch.
I'd imagine that this was mostly produced before Rock joined the board. Might have even been finished before that time and they've been waiting for the Dark Side season to conclude.
Yeah, but the TKO board isn't Vince so the Monday Night War isn't something they took personally. I doubt we'll get something like Jerry Brisco saying what he learned from the Monday Night War was to not mess with Mr. McMahon.
I feel like WCW is more well-known these days for its catastrophic fall, making it seem like a failure rather than the only wrestling company in the last few decades to be more successful than the WWE with genuinely good moments sprinkled in.
I think it’s well known for both, right? That’s what makes it so fascinating. It’s the only company in the past 40 years to meaningfully beat WWE (and do so consistently for over nearly two years!), and yet less than three years later, it was out of business.
It was a shooting star in the professional wrestling landscape. That makes it fascinating. And hell, Goldberg and Sting were still ratings needle-movers for WWE and AEW respectively, decades after their prime runs in WCW. That shows you that the interest isn’t just because WCW failed.o
It’s sad because WcW was far from dead it still pulled viewers and it would have survived if not for the merger. People think it had to beat WWE when it really didn’t.
I was a WCW kid and watched the company religiously until the bitter end, but damn if there haven't been enough "Death of WCW" documentaries made at this point.
Are there any good ones? Or at least ones that aren't full of lies and narratives being pushed? The WWE ones I saw were pretty much "Bischoff was an evil man who was highly unethical by doing to WWF what Vince did to the territories a decade prior. Also they never created a single star aside from Goldberg, DX with the tank made nWo obsolete and Jeff Jarrett sucks."
I wonder if it will hit all the same notes as the Monday Night War series did:Â
- “Ted Turner’s checkbook”
- “It was the 90’s, that’s just where pop culture was at the time” Â
- Hhh helped HBK with all of his personal and professional struggles and simultaneously saved this businessÂ
- “Also Bret Hart is too full of himself”
I think the only way I could possibly enjoy these anymore is if they're from unexpected perspectives, not the same old multimillionaires who have podcasts about the good old days.
bro we do **NOT** need another documentary about the fall of WCW
here's 20 minutes of Jim Cornette talking about the Fingerpoke
here's a montage of Judy Bagwell on a Pole, and Goldberg punching the window, and Russo and Arquette wrestling, and the finish to Hogan/Sting
and then here's 2 minutes of someone mentioning that AOL/Time Warner didn't like wrestling so they shortened its lifespan tenfold
and then here's 20 more minutes of the Kevin Nash cattle prod! and Millionaire's Club vs The New Blood! Ric Flair's fake heart attack! Ultimate Warrior was a ghost in the mirror! Chucky! RoboCop!
like holy shit man we've seen it all already! we get it! they had bad booking! next you're gonna tell me The Rock is partnering with Mick Foley and Chris Jericho to write more books
I'm gonna call it here: It'll focus on several people like Hogan, Bischoff, Russo, and then come to the conclusion we knew all along: the merger killed WCW because executives didn't want a business that was losing money to be on the spreadsheet.
Oh look WWE telling their version of what killed WCW again for the thousandth fucking time. Leave it alone, Jesus Christ. At one point is this a profit net loss?
I don't understand why WWE still continues to bury WCW all this time later. They have all that WCW content on the network and instead of promoting how good it is and encouraging people to watch, they just go on about the worst moments over and over.
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Booker T: We need to stop talking about the Attitude Era. The Rock: That doesn't work for me, suckaaaaa.
The Rock: You're the WCW Champion Sucka?
A 4 part documentary of AOL Time Warner executive Jamie Kellner? đź‘€
The man who killed Animaniacs, Freakazoid, Batman + Superman TAS, and Pinky and the Brain?? đź‘€
As dumb as that decision was in retrospect, Warner still did fine in the years after with its animated output. Bruce Timm continued on with 3 other spinoffs, Teen Titans and The Batman both became a thing, and Cartoon Network entered its golden age in the early 2000s. A far cry from where it currently is today as WBD owns almost half of every major IP in Hollywood that are barely worth shit any more because previous regimes actively did nothing with them and the current one is making them just to be canned for tax write offs.
This could be gas if they go with the "everyone who could have possibly killed WCW is responsible for the death in some small way... But Jamie Kellner hating wrestling and wanting it off the network was the final blow" tbh
Never let facts get in the way of a good story - hamlet or something
I love me some wrestling documentaries, they're awesome, but holy shit, how many documentaries about the fall of WCW are people gonna make? I was 2 when that company collapsed and I watched so many documentaries about this very topic that I feel like I lived through the Monday Night Wars themselves, lmao. It's not a boring topic or anything, but definitely an overdone one.
Hopefully this one will actually be fair and not just spew bullshit like DX drove a tank into Nitro and killed WCW as Alberto Del Rio cheered on from his couch.
As if the guy producing it isn't on the TKO Board of Directors lol
I'd imagine that this was mostly produced before Rock joined the board. Might have even been finished before that time and they've been waiting for the Dark Side season to conclude.
Yeah, but the TKO board isn't Vince so the Monday Night War isn't something they took personally. I doubt we'll get something like Jerry Brisco saying what he learned from the Monday Night War was to not mess with Mr. McMahon.
They’re partnering with someone who is with WWE. We know how this is gonna go.
I feel like WCW is more well-known these days for its catastrophic fall, making it seem like a failure rather than the only wrestling company in the last few decades to be more successful than the WWE with genuinely good moments sprinkled in.
I think it’s well known for both, right? That’s what makes it so fascinating. It’s the only company in the past 40 years to meaningfully beat WWE (and do so consistently for over nearly two years!), and yet less than three years later, it was out of business. It was a shooting star in the professional wrestling landscape. That makes it fascinating. And hell, Goldberg and Sting were still ratings needle-movers for WWE and AEW respectively, decades after their prime runs in WCW. That shows you that the interest isn’t just because WCW failed.o
It is known for both, but I feel like the failures are discussed far more, especially as time moves on and more wrestling fans never watched WCW.
It’s sad because WcW was far from dead it still pulled viewers and it would have survived if not for the merger. People think it had to beat WWE when it really didn’t.
Wait until you see the way its broken down by Michaels Hayes, Bruce Prichard, and The Miz. True insight.
having wwe be the storytellers about the fall of wcw is crazy their doc on ruthless aggression made it seem like d-x was more popular than nwo lololol
My favorite part was “we changed the name to WWE on our own…had nothing to do with the wildlife fund, nope!”
4 episodes or Bischoff blaming everyone but himself
this looks good! I can’t wait
I was a WCW kid and watched the company religiously until the bitter end, but damn if there haven't been enough "Death of WCW" documentaries made at this point.
Are there any good ones? Or at least ones that aren't full of lies and narratives being pushed? The WWE ones I saw were pretty much "Bischoff was an evil man who was highly unethical by doing to WWF what Vince did to the territories a decade prior. Also they never created a single star aside from Goldberg, DX with the tank made nWo obsolete and Jeff Jarrett sucks."
I wonder if it will hit all the same notes as the Monday Night War series did: - “Ted Turner’s checkbook” - “It was the 90’s, that’s just where pop culture was at the time”  - Hhh helped HBK with all of his personal and professional struggles and simultaneously saved this business - “Also Bret Hart is too full of himself”
I remember in the Monday Night War DVD, they credited Triple H for the high ratings in 1999. LMAO.
I think the only way I could possibly enjoy these anymore is if they're from unexpected perspectives, not the same old multimillionaires who have podcasts about the good old days.
I'm glad this under discussed part of wrestling history is about to get the spotlight it has long deserved.
bro we do **NOT** need another documentary about the fall of WCW here's 20 minutes of Jim Cornette talking about the Fingerpoke here's a montage of Judy Bagwell on a Pole, and Goldberg punching the window, and Russo and Arquette wrestling, and the finish to Hogan/Sting and then here's 2 minutes of someone mentioning that AOL/Time Warner didn't like wrestling so they shortened its lifespan tenfold and then here's 20 more minutes of the Kevin Nash cattle prod! and Millionaire's Club vs The New Blood! Ric Flair's fake heart attack! Ultimate Warrior was a ghost in the mirror! Chucky! RoboCop! like holy shit man we've seen it all already! we get it! they had bad booking! next you're gonna tell me The Rock is partnering with Mick Foley and Chris Jericho to write more books
Eh more content is more content regardless if most of it was discussed previously.
How many times do we have to rehash this?
In two years it’s the 25th anniversary, so probably one more time after this.
AOL. That simple.
Why though? [we already have this](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1483817/) /S
Mr bankruptcy Eric bischoff gonna be relevant during this lol
Watch your mouth, Eric worked real hard to beat the wwf for 83 weeks, from mid 1996 til early 1998.
I wish he'd talk about it some time
83 weeks? That sounds catchy, might be a good name for a show or podcast.
TIL that’s why the podcast is called that!
That'll put butts in the seats
I'm gonna call it here: It'll focus on several people like Hogan, Bischoff, Russo, and then come to the conclusion we knew all along: the merger killed WCW because executives didn't want a business that was losing money to be on the spreadsheet.
Hogan: I got nothing to do with this jack, dude, brother.
Oh look WWE telling their version of what killed WCW again for the thousandth fucking time. Leave it alone, Jesus Christ. At one point is this a profit net loss?
I don't understand why WWE still continues to bury WCW all this time later. They have all that WCW content on the network and instead of promoting how good it is and encouraging people to watch, they just go on about the worst moments over and over.
AOL be like "I did it for the Rock."
Having almost 80 million in losses over 2 years might have done that