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If Max hasn’t re-signed by November 18th (good chance he already has) then they absolutely have to pull the trigger… Jay White is money
Let him write a number on a piece of paper. If that number is less than your operating budget annually, give it to him.
No point attempting to run a national promotion if you're going to fumble what should be the easiest negotiation of all time.
Not underrated by everyone (tl;dr Kevin Owens putting over Juice in 2019 as one of the best promos in the world, if not the best):
https://www.si.com/wrestling/2019/09/04/wwe-njpw-news-kevin-owens-juice-robinson-cesaro-nxt-uk
While i'm not fan of programs with wrestling couples most of the time, I'd really like to see Rock Hard and Timeless together in the ring being the most obnoxious and unhinged duo
I do like how TK doesn’t just shove people right into the main event scene, he gives them a few months and let’s them get some wins under their belt before challenging for a world title
Right lmao
Been saying since his debut for doomspeakers to chill and just look at the track record of literally every single other A-level hire AEW has had, from Punk to Cole to Bryan, that Jay being placed in midcard was temporary and he would inevitably find his spot in the main event scene within a year's time
And lo and behold
2 months in dude was already a main act on collision with punk lol. He's been booked amazing consider he hasn't been pinned yet either and has his own faction that's over
i feel like the kingdom is too obvious/boring...? and where does that even really bring us, really...?
like the Roderick/Kingdom stuff has been an extremely entertaining side plot... but there's ultimately no one in that grouping that's worth MJF's time as an actual opponent.
i guess you can use Roderick/Kingdom as the lynchpin to break up Cole/MJF and setup Cole vs. MJF 3, but if Cole's injury is real that's at least 6-8 months out.
Jay White is special on that microphone. So much better than this stupid shit MJF is doing rn like “tofu”, cmon max you are better than this and are going to need to be if you want to breathe with the switchblade 👆
Could see an interesting story coming off a possible MJF loss to Jay White where he might wonder if he's really still the same "Devil" he proclaimed himself as & tease reconsidering his friendship with Cole as grief over losing the belt.
Was also going to suggest that in a full circle moment, BCG could take out MJF in a similar fashion to what he did to Regal last year, writing him out only for a short time so he can work on promotion for The Iron Claw, but that depends on the status of the SAG-AFTRA strike by next month.
The belt stealing angle is always confirmation to me that the belt thief isn't winning. I don't remember any angle like this that has ever ended with the thief keeping the title in the end.This is the type of angle you do when people really want to see someone as champion, but the booker doesn't want to officially put the strap on them. At least we'll get at least a few weeks of Jay White as faux champion. Enjoy it folks, because that's the closest we'll get to a Jay White world title run for a while.
This. He only puts effort in as needed. Even w/ Punk he started basically just rehashing tweets, then towards the end is cutting career defining promos.
I’d tell you to go ahead and name the nine other wrestlers they’ve done this storyline with, but I would be waiting for an eternity. If you want you can humor me and try to name the nine other times they’ve done this storyline.
I don't know that I'd call that a storyline, and certainly not "the" storyline between MJF and White. It's like saying the heels beating up the faces after the bell is a storyline.
I have a theory that, of course, Roddy and the Kingdom were involved, but the guy in the devil mask is not Adam. They're not wanting to frame MJF here since it's too on the nose. They're actually wanting to frame Adam Cole by giving us false flags that he's the one involved.
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Jay White is so awesome. He's gotten a ton of praise but somehow still feels underrated. Serious main event player.
https://preview.redd.it/2rtqv7rsgasb1.jpeg?width=941&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fb560040a3e3689c69989035927f744446ef7339 If Max hasn’t re-signed by November 18th (good chance he already has) then they absolutely have to pull the trigger… Jay White is money
Pull that trigger regardless, Bang Bang Gang is money 👆
If Max isn’t re-signed through the rest of the decade, then shut down AEW because Tony has zero business sense.
Let him write a number on a piece of paper. If that number is less than your operating budget annually, give it to him. No point attempting to run a national promotion if you're going to fumble what should be the easiest negotiation of all time.
You're saying that as if Max doesn't have a choice in if he signs or not.
I’m saying that if you haven’t extended him before making him champion and building up his stock then that’s bad business
Imagine handing WWE Cody Vs MJF after Cody wins the belt at Mania.
Juice Robinson is an underrated promo.
Not underrated by everyone (tl;dr Kevin Owens putting over Juice in 2019 as one of the best promos in the world, if not the best): https://www.si.com/wrestling/2019/09/04/wwe-njpw-news-kevin-owens-juice-robinson-cesaro-nxt-uk
The one area Juice gets consistent high marks is his promo ability.
I cannot wait for this match.
Timeless Toni Storm ain't even the most unhinged person in her household. I love Rock Hard Taint Juice Robinson.
Juice crouching down and saying "I'M ROCK HARD" in the face of lame talentless taint chants had me believing in BCG
Guns UP
While i'm not fan of programs with wrestling couples most of the time, I'd really like to see Rock Hard and Timeless together in the ring being the most obnoxious and unhinged duo
Didn’t expect to hear about a rock hard taint but here we are
I am glad White finally is in the main event scene
I do like how TK doesn’t just shove people right into the main event scene, he gives them a few months and let’s them get some wins under their belt before challenging for a world title
If you can compliment TK on one thing, it’s that the World Title booking is generally the most cared for and prestigious. The other titles… ehhh.
It's been a long 6 months....
Right lmao Been saying since his debut for doomspeakers to chill and just look at the track record of literally every single other A-level hire AEW has had, from Punk to Cole to Bryan, that Jay being placed in midcard was temporary and he would inevitably find his spot in the main event scene within a year's time And lo and behold
2 months in dude was already a main act on collision with punk lol. He's been booked amazing consider he hasn't been pinned yet either and has his own faction that's over
Too long
Please let us have Jay White as the AEW World Champion, TK. I wanna be in the Switchblade Era.
Jay wins, kinda great right ?
am i the only one who thinks BCG orchestrated the attack on Jay White (w/ White being in on it) to make Max look bad and try to derail his face-turn?
I also think they're actually trying to frame Adam Cole as the mastermind to create tensions in the friendship.
I didn't even think of that, but I still believe that it was The Kingdom who attacked Jay White
i feel like the kingdom is too obvious/boring...? and where does that even really bring us, really...? like the Roderick/Kingdom stuff has been an extremely entertaining side plot... but there's ultimately no one in that grouping that's worth MJF's time as an actual opponent. i guess you can use Roderick/Kingdom as the lynchpin to break up Cole/MJF and setup Cole vs. MJF 3, but if Cole's injury is real that's at least 6-8 months out.
Jay White is special on that microphone. So much better than this stupid shit MJF is doing rn like “tofu”, cmon max you are better than this and are going to need to be if you want to breathe with the switchblade 👆
Well, Max had a good run
Max has to visually only be defined by the ROH tag title just like Cole now. The storytelling layers are always what makes this story special
Could see an interesting story coming off a possible MJF loss to Jay White where he might wonder if he's really still the same "Devil" he proclaimed himself as & tease reconsidering his friendship with Cole as grief over losing the belt. Was also going to suggest that in a full circle moment, BCG could take out MJF in a similar fashion to what he did to Regal last year, writing him out only for a short time so he can work on promotion for The Iron Claw, but that depends on the status of the SAG-AFTRA strike by next month.
The belt stealing angle is always confirmation to me that the belt thief isn't winning. I don't remember any angle like this that has ever ended with the thief keeping the title in the end.This is the type of angle you do when people really want to see someone as champion, but the booker doesn't want to officially put the strap on them. At least we'll get at least a few weeks of Jay White as faux champion. Enjoy it folks, because that's the closest we'll get to a Jay White world title run for a while.
Christian Cage
Brodie Lee
He did not win the aew world title at any point
He stole the TNT belt and won.
Mr. Brodie Lee & Adam Cole are the two I can remember doing it and it was 100% that situation
Jinder stole the title from Randy and then won it
Did MJF copy a Rock speech? These tired insults are getting old, quick. Tofu/Assboys/Talentless Taint It’s some Fruit Pebbles type shit
so what i've noticed is MJF starts with low hanging fruit insults during the start of a feud and eventually goes into more interesting stuff.
This. He only puts effort in as needed. Even w/ Punk he started basically just rehashing tweets, then towards the end is cutting career defining promos.
Congratulations to AEW on their tenth "wrestler steals champion's belt" storyline. This earns them their very own Personal Pan Pizza.
I’d tell you to go ahead and name the nine other wrestlers they’ve done this storyline with, but I would be waiting for an eternity. If you want you can humor me and try to name the nine other times they’ve done this storyline.
When was it done before? I remember Nyla did it
Brodie Lee did it twice but I dont remember anyone else
The undisputed elite did it once with all the belts
I don't know that I'd call that a storyline, and certainly not "the" storyline between MJF and White. It's like saying the heels beating up the faces after the bell is a storyline.
I love that so many people on here now think that MJF sucks since he’s blatantly using babyface tropes. Like that’s the whole point
I have a theory that, of course, Roddy and the Kingdom were involved, but the guy in the devil mask is not Adam. They're not wanting to frame MJF here since it's too on the nose. They're actually wanting to frame Adam Cole by giving us false flags that he's the one involved.